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geekhack Marketplace => Great Finds => Topic started by: Pacifist on Wed, 25 June 2014, 21:11:04

Title: red alert BS set
Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 25 June 2014, 21:11:04
http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Model-M-Red-Alert-keycap-set-keycaps-only-keyboard-not-included-/271532517438?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item3f3899683e

Pretty sure its from somebody here
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: kenmai9 on Wed, 25 June 2014, 21:13:21
Came for the deal, stayed for the frog lol.

Nice find, don't need it though.
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: iloveucla on Wed, 25 June 2014, 22:09:29
Want it, but no money to buy it...... wrong timming :(
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: False_Dmitry_II on Wed, 25 June 2014, 23:25:22
That looks like fohat's set, I guess someone eventually bought them and then proceeded to not use them.
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: JPG on Wed, 25 June 2014, 23:44:31
That looks like fohat's set, I guess someone eventually bought them and then proceeded to not use them.

That's fohat's ebay account
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: dorkvader on Wed, 25 June 2014, 23:48:22
That looks like fohat's set, I guess someone eventually bought them and then proceeded to not use them.
I think he said he'd put them on eBay if no-one here was interested.
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 26 June 2014, 00:03:20
That looks like fohat's set, I guess someone eventually bought them and then proceeded to not use them.

That's fohat's ebay account
I knew it looked familiar!
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: Wildcard on Thu, 26 June 2014, 00:40:16
It's a good deal if you have a matching space bar. I imagine the white looks pretty crisp.
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 26 June 2014, 08:02:36
That looks like fohat's set, I guess someone eventually bought them and then proceeded to not use them.

No, it is my listing. I thought I had a deal with an international geekhacker, but he reneged.

I tried to make a new classified, but it was turned down because there was no date on the photo.

I spent a long time on a great packing job, and was unwilling to dismantle the package to take a new photo.

$3 discount if you buy it directly from me, but I am not taking down the ebay listing until I have the money.
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: Wildcard on Thu, 26 June 2014, 12:57:46
That looks like fohat's set, I guess someone eventually bought them and then proceeded to not use them.

No, it is my listing. I thought I had a deal with an international geekhacker, but he reneged.

I tried to make a new classified, but it was turned down because there was no date on the photo.

I spent a long time on a great packing job, and was unwilling to dismantle the package to take a new photo.

$3 discount if you buy it directly from me, but I am not taking down the ebay listing until I have the money.


take a photo of you pointing at the screen with your username and date/time in the top left corner and make that your image???
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: katushkin on Thu, 26 June 2014, 13:01:18
I wish Unicomp would do an ISO set of these. So pissed.
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 26 June 2014, 13:14:40

take a photo of you pointing at the screen with your username and date/time in the top left corner and make that your image???


Hey, good idea! Like this?

I really would prefer to sell it here, and I am amazed that international buyers are not pouncing on this with my shipping much lower than Unicomp's.
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 26 June 2014, 14:57:30
Technically I don't think that image would pass muster in the classifieds. The point is to post an image of the actual product + a note, which is very hard to fake. Anyone can post a note in front of a digital image, and the evidentiary weight is much less...

Of course I am just nitpicking. All lurkers should know fohat.digs has a good reputation on this forum and is a legit seller. Plus, this is a pretty smokin' deal. Surprised it hasn't sold as well.
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: iloveucla on Thu, 26 June 2014, 15:12:02
Technically I don't think that image would pass muster in the classifieds. The point is to post an image of the actual product + a note, which is very hard to fake. Anyone can post a note in front of a digital image, and the evidentiary weight is much less...

Of course I am just nitpicking. All lurkers should know fohat.digs has a good reputation on this forum and is a legit seller. Plus, this is a pretty smokin' deal. Surprised it hasn't sold as well.
How much does it cost of a original one?
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 26 June 2014, 16:09:24
How much does it cost of a original one?

$40 + $6 shipping domestic US, $24 shipping international

PS - now this is a good way to circumvent the classifieds rules!
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 26 June 2014, 16:19:39
How much does it cost of a original one?

$40 + $6 shipping domestic US, $24 shipping international

PS - now this is a good way to circumvent the classifieds rules!
Gah if only it was blue alert, not red alert :'(
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: iloveucla on Thu, 26 June 2014, 17:09:44
How much does it cost of a original one?

$40 + $6 shipping domestic US, $24 shipping international

PS - now this is a good way to circumvent the classifieds rules!
:eek:
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: lilky on Thu, 26 June 2014, 18:52:07
Wait what? Where can you get one new for $40?
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: 1391406 on Thu, 26 June 2014, 20:30:04
Wait what? Where can you get one new for $40?

Unicomp's website (http://pckeyboard.com/page/NEW/FullRGBKeys)
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: remdell on Fri, 27 June 2014, 01:30:14
RoW alphas with RoG mods is one my favorite color schemes.  I'd take this set, but I'm broke from upgrading my old bamboo Wacom tablet to an Intuos.
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: bexleycorona on Fri, 27 June 2014, 06:20:50
Do these caps work on the Unicomp KB in my signature?
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 27 June 2014, 07:09:36
Do these caps work on the Unicomp KB in my signature?

The only Unicomp I ever had was the one that is exactly like an IBM.

If yours has Windows keys, the bottom row might not work right. Can anybody give him a definitive answer?
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: terrpn on Fri, 27 June 2014, 09:12:59
the red alert you are selling on ebay set is winkeyless, so the bottom row is not compatable to the unicomp ultra classic

sorry........

he can however order 104 set direct from unicomp
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: terrpn on Fri, 27 June 2014, 09:14:53
i am going to order some kind of set or sets i guess to support them, especially after we have begged them so much to pull the trigger on this :thumb:
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 27 June 2014, 09:53:56
i am going to order some kind of set or sets i guess to support them,

I am astonished that I have been trying for weeks to sell this brand new set at an almost 20% discount (25% international, considering shipping) and nobody has bought it!

Maybe there really isn't so much interest after all.
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 27 June 2014, 10:54:34
Sold on ebay.

You guys missed a deal.
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 28 June 2014, 01:27:26
I don't use my Model M enough to justify spending more money on it.  Never mind the other one that needs a bolt mod!

Congratulations on a successful sale though :)
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 28 June 2014, 08:03:58
I don't use my Model M enough to justify spending more money on it. 

For a casual user who wants quality and durability, "the one true keyboard" might well be the first and last stop.

Buy one, and live happily ever after. That would be my advice.

Funny how most people who get into the hobby move on from the M, in one direction or another.
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: False_Dmitry_II on Sun, 29 June 2014, 04:50:07
Do these caps work on the Unicomp KB in my signature?

Actually apparently so. The redesign 104 they did was so that the control and alt keys would be the same size as they are on the 101. So they just made the other keys much smaller. The only difference at that point is the spacebar which wasn't included anyway, and the additional added keys you would need because this is a 101 set.

i am going to order some kind of set or sets i guess to support them,

I am astonished that I have been trying for weeks to sell this brand new set at an almost 20% discount (25% international, considering shipping) and nobody has bought it!

Maybe there really isn't so much interest after all.


It may have been the mix of the brilliant white keys and pebble.
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: ZeDestructor on Sun, 29 June 2014, 05:11:18
I don't use my Model M enough to justify spending more money on it. 

For a casual user who wants quality and durability, "the one true keyboard" might well be the first and last stop.

Buy one, and live happily ever after. That would be my advice.

Funny how most people who get into the hobby move on from the M, in one direction or another.

Not really for me..

My first computer (the one I happily stole from my mum when I was 3) had an IBM M2 (I should really fix it at some point). Thus I learnt to type on an M. I kept with BS until I was forced into a (surprisingly decent) A4Tech dome, then tried some Acer Alps clones, then Cherry MX black, then came back to an M, and now rock an F-122. All in all, there is something about the feel of a BS that just can't be emulated by anything I have tried so far.

Really, the shortcut with my journey would have been to go from the M2 straight to the F, but I didn't know any better back then.

EDIT: neither did the Soarer mod exist back then...
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 29 June 2014, 08:22:44
and now rock an F-122.

EDIT: neither did the Soarer mod exist back then...

Precisely my point. I referred to the "casual user" for which the M is ideal.

After I put my F-122 in place, just about EVERYTHING else are plastic toys.
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: ZeDestructor on Sun, 29 June 2014, 09:24:27
and now rock an F-122.

EDIT: neither did the Soarer mod exist back then...

Precisely my point. I referred to the "casual user" for which the M is ideal.

After I put my F-122 in place, just about EVERYTHING else are plastic toys.


What we really need is an 104/105-key ANSI/ISO layout F. These days you really rather want NKRO... or at least 6KRO
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: samwisekoi on Sun, 29 June 2014, 10:47:58
I don't use my Model M enough to justify spending more money on it. 

For a casual user who wants quality and durability, "the one true keyboard" might well be the first and last stop.

Buy one, and live happily ever after. That would be my advice.

Funny how most people who get into the hobby move on from the M, in one direction or another.

I bought a Model M first.  Then I bought 6? 10? 12? 15? other keyboards looking for something better.

Still use that Model M all day, every day.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

p.s.  Of course, it now has custom keycaps from a few different sources.  Because this wouldn't be "WalletHack" if you couldn't double the cost value of every keyboard with custom 'caps and accessories!  ;D
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: bexleycorona on Thu, 03 July 2014, 13:08:28

I don't use my Model M enough to justify spending more money on it. 

For a casual user who wants quality and durability, "the one true keyboard" might well be the first and last stop.

Buy one, and live happily ever after. That would be my advice.

Funny how most people who get into the hobby move on from the M, in one direction or another.

I bought a Model M first.  Then I bought 6? 10? 12? 15? other keyboards looking for something better.

Still use that Model M all day, every day.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

p.s.  Of course, it now has custom keycaps from a few different sources.  Because this wouldn't be "WalletHack" if you couldn't double the cost value of every keyboard with custom 'caps and accessories!  ;D

Where can I get custom caps and key sets for BS?
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 03 July 2014, 13:12:20
Where can I get custom caps and key sets for BS?

http://www.pckeyboard.com/
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: JPG on Thu, 03 July 2014, 13:12:45
I don't use my Model M enough to justify spending more money on it. 

For a casual user who wants quality and durability, "the one true keyboard" might well be the first and last stop.

Buy one, and live happily ever after. That would be my advice.

Funny how most people who get into the hobby move on from the M, in one direction or another.

I bought a Model M first.  Then I bought 6? 10? 12? 15? other keyboards looking for something better.

Still use that Model M all day, every day.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

p.s.  Of course, it now has custom keycaps from a few different sources.  Because this wouldn't be "WalletHack" if you couldn't double the cost value of every keyboard with custom 'caps and accessories!  ;D


15 keyboards and not an F?  ;)
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: terrpn on Thu, 03 July 2014, 20:50:29
I don't use my Model M enough to justify spending more money on it. 

For a casual user who wants quality and durability, "the one true keyboard" might well be the first and last stop.

Buy one, and live happily ever after. That would be my advice.

Funny how most people who get into the hobby move on from the M, in one direction or another.

I bought a Model M first.  Then I bought 6? 10? 12? 15? other keyboards looking for something better.

Still use that Model M all day, every day.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

p.s.  Of course, it now has custom keycaps from a few different sources.  Because this wouldn't be "WalletHack" if you couldn't double the cost value of every keyboard with custom 'caps and accessories!  ;D

i mean really..............what the heck's up with that?

i would have thought i would have figured out by now.............duh :-[
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: ZeDestructor on Fri, 04 July 2014, 03:19:18
I don't use my Model M enough to justify spending more money on it. 

For a casual user who wants quality and durability, "the one true keyboard" might well be the first and last stop.

Buy one, and live happily ever after. That would be my advice.

Funny how most people who get into the hobby move on from the M, in one direction or another.

I bought a Model M first.  Then I bought 6? 10? 12? 15? other keyboards looking for something better.

Still use that Model M all day, every day.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

p.s.  Of course, it now has custom keycaps from a few different sources.  Because this wouldn't be "WalletHack" if you couldn't double the cost value of every keyboard with custom 'caps and accessories!  ;D


15 keyboards and not an F?  ;)

I agree. Dissapointing, really
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: dorkvader on Fri, 04 July 2014, 07:59:23
It's OK guys, I hear he'll be at keycon so he can try Fs there.
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: False_Dmitry_II on Sat, 05 July 2014, 17:07:58

Not really for me..

My first computer (the one I happily stole from my mum when I was 3) had an IBM M2 (I should really fix it at some point). Thus I learnt to type on an M. I kept with BS until I was forced into a (surprisingly decent) A4Tech dome, then tried some Acer Alps clones, then Cherry MX black, then came back to an M, and now rock an F-122. All in all, there is something about the feel of a BS that just can't be emulated by anything I have tried so far.




Acer switches are not clones, just as SMK-Alps mount/Monterey Blues are not clones, or plenty of other alps mount stuff.

Acer switches and the way they actuate have more in common with a Model M, because both trigger membranes.
Title: Re: red alert BS set
Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 05 July 2014, 17:18:44
Acer switches and the way they actuate have more in common with a Model M, because both trigger membranes.

You are absolutely correct in this.

However, the reality is that most users are concerned with feel.

In my opinion, the Acer is a delightful lightweight switch that is not unlike the Monterey blue in feel, although the mechanisms are nowhere remotely similar.

Conversely, or similarly, the Model M and Model F are very different electronically, but are considered similar in (subjective emotional) feel.