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Title: Daddy Nooooooo!!! (or crazy German putting power steering fluid in MX Blues)
Post by: dante on Thu, 03 July 2014, 16:54:01
Someone neutering MX Blues w/ power steering fluid:

Title: Re: Daddy Nooooooo!!! (or crazy German putting power steering fluid in MX Blues)
Post by: digi on Thu, 03 July 2014, 16:56:59
dat pc case key cap "puller" :eek:
Title: Re: Daddy Nooooooo!!! (or crazy German putting power steering fluid in MX Blues)
Post by: divito on Thu, 03 July 2014, 16:57:55
Seems like an interesting idea. Now that my Das is essentially retired, I wonder if I should experiment myself with this.
Title: Re: Daddy Nooooooo!!! (or crazy German putting power steering fluid in MX Blues)
Post by: jwaz on Thu, 03 July 2014, 17:01:31
Those MX 3.0 boards look like absolute trash.
Title: Re: Daddy Nooooooo!!! (or crazy German putting power steering fluid in MX Blues)
Post by: dante on Thu, 03 July 2014, 17:05:52
Those MX 3.0 boards look like absolute trash.

They are actually very comfy to type on.  Also unlike most of the market they offer a 2 year warranty instead of the standard 1 year.

If you want a mechanical keyboard that's not nearly two inches thick - it's the best option.
Title: Re: Daddy Nooooooo!!! (or crazy German putting power steering fluid in MX Blues)
Post by: digi on Thu, 03 July 2014, 17:07:01
Those MX 3.0 boards look like absolute trash.

I typed on one at a show in SF, it's not for me.
Title: Re: Daddy Nooooooo!!! (or crazy German putting power steering fluid in MX Blues)
Post by: Oobly on Fri, 04 July 2014, 02:56:07
And when it has slowly drained out of the switch by capillary action, you'll have clicky Blues again... Great mod! At least he didn't use brake fluid   :eek:

Those MX 3.0 boards look like absolute trash.

The case looks a bit stiffer than the G80-3000's I recently received, but I suspect the PCB flexes about the same. Gives quite a mushy and "cheap" feeling IMHO. They are not exactly Filco's.
Title: Re: Daddy Nooooooo!!! (or crazy German putting power steering fluid in MX Blues)
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 04 July 2014, 03:28:38
The case looks a bit stiffer than the G80-3000's I recently received, but I suspect the PCB flexes about the same. Gives quite a mushy and "cheap" feeling IMHO. They are not exactly Filco's.

The G80-3850 actually has a metal plate just like a Filco hence why the hate and misinformation about an actual Cherry Product?
Title: Re: Daddy Nooooooo!!! (or crazy German putting power steering fluid in MX Blues)
Post by: Oobly on Fri, 04 July 2014, 03:48:30
The case looks a bit stiffer than the G80-3000's I recently received, but I suspect the PCB flexes about the same. Gives quite a mushy and "cheap" feeling IMHO. They are not exactly Filco's.

The G80-3850 actually has a metal plate just like a Filco hence why the hate and misinformation about an actual Cherry Product?

Oh wow. Plate mounted? Nice, that's a big improvement over the older 3000 boards then. I find the low profile caps interesting. Don't know what they were thinking with the Caps Lock switch / stem placement, though. Not compatible with their own stepped OR standard centre mount caps lock keycaps.

Back on topic, seems like this guy would like Whites with Blue springs. Is there a name for those yet?
Title: Re: Daddy Nooooooo!!! (or crazy German putting power steering fluid in MX Blues)
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 04 July 2014, 03:59:36
And when it has slowly drained out of the switch by capillary action, you'll have clicky Blues again... Great mod! At least he didn't use brake fluid   :eek:

Those MX 3.0 boards look like absolute trash.

The case looks a bit stiffer than the G80-3000's I recently received, but I suspect the PCB flexes about the same. Gives quite a mushy and "cheap" feeling IMHO. They are not exactly Filco's.

that's not gonna drain, it'll probably just roll to the bottom and stay there, until you shake the board..
Title: Re: Daddy Nooooooo!!! (or crazy German putting power steering fluid in MX Blues)
Post by: pichu23 on Fri, 04 July 2014, 04:09:44
Why would someone do that.......... T_T
Title: Re: Daddy Nooooooo!!! (or crazy German putting power steering fluid in MX Blues)
Post by: ComradeSniper on Fri, 04 July 2014, 10:59:04
The case looks a bit stiffer than the G80-3000's I recently received, but I suspect the PCB flexes about the same. Gives quite a mushy and "cheap" feeling IMHO. They are not exactly Filco's.

The G80-3850 actually has a metal plate just like a Filco hence why the hate and misinformation about an actual Cherry Product?

Oh wow. Plate mounted? Nice, that's a big improvement over the older 3000 boards then. I find the low profile caps interesting. Don't know what they were thinking with the Caps Lock switch / stem placement, though. Not compatible with their own stepped OR standard centre mount caps lock keycaps.

Back on topic, seems like this guy would like Whites with Blue springs. Is there a name for those yet?
They're usually referred to as ergo-whites. They'd be my favorite MX switch if they would click with any sort of consistency...
Title: Re: Daddy Nooooooo!!! (or crazy German putting power steering fluid in MX Blues)
Post by: lightsout714 on Fri, 04 July 2014, 11:12:27
Man there's grease all over the place. That board would be disgusting under the caps if you did the whole thing and used it for a couple months. At least the clumsy way he did it. I do prefer the sound but wonder how they feel.
Title: Re: Daddy Nooooooo!!! (or crazy German putting power steering fluid in MX Blues)
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 04 July 2014, 14:37:16
this kills the keyboard

or i would think it does, it's not plastic safe for long periods of time AFAIK
Title: Re: Daddy Nooooooo!!! (or crazy German putting power steering fluid in MX Blues)
Post by: deltuhhh on Fri, 04 July 2014, 19:23:43
Would you guys mind elaborating what's so bad about doing this? Please don't punch me.
 
Title: Re: Daddy Nooooooo!!! (or crazy German putting power steering fluid in MX Blues)
Post by: Grendel on Fri, 04 July 2014, 20:25:31
Someone neutering MX Blues w/ power steering fluid: [..]

Makes me wish that stupidity would hurt. A lot.
Title: Re: Daddy Nooooooo!!! (or crazy German putting power steering fluid in MX Blues)
Post by: Frenir on Fri, 04 July 2014, 20:46:58
Would you guys mind elaborating what's so bad about doing this? Please don't punch me.
I think it's because in the long run the oil will collect dirt and dust and the keys will get sticky, which will also be hard to clean.

But I could be mistaken.
Title: Re: Daddy Nooooooo!!! (or crazy German putting power steering fluid in MX Blues)
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 04 July 2014, 22:04:11
"4 to 5 drops" in each switch!

Are you f_cking kidding me?

At least power steering fluid comes in a big bottle.
Title: Re: Daddy Nooooooo!!! (or crazy German putting power steering fluid in MX Blues)
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 04 July 2014, 22:33:21
Oh wow. Plate mounted? Nice, that's a big improvement over the older 3000 boards then.
Plate mounting isn't necessarily an improvement. PCB mount vs plate mount is preference.
Title: Re: Daddy Nooooooo!!! (or crazy German putting power steering fluid in MX Blues)
Post by: Oobly on Sat, 05 July 2014, 01:22:01
Oh wow. Plate mounted? Nice, that's a big improvement over the older 3000 boards then.
Plate mounting isn't necessarily an improvement. PCB mount vs plate mount is preference.

I partly agree with you, but in the case of the G80-3000 there is so much PCB flex and lack of PCB support it's hard to imagine someone liking the feeling. My KBT Pure on the other hand felt just fine without a plate. Could just be that I'm a "plate mounted" kind of guy and the Pure was stiff enough to feel similar (haven't noticed a massive change in feel since installing an aluminium plate).

Would you guys mind elaborating what's so bad about doing this? Please don't punch me.
 


He puts so much oil in there that there's a layer of oil to dampen the slider hitting the bottom of the case... it's just... yuck. IMO it'll drain out due to capillary effect and you'll end up with the click back again. Also, why try to get rid of the click, when the bottom out sound is louder anyway? There are better ways of doing this without filling your board with oil (small amounts of thick grease, ErgoWhites or Clears / Browns). At least that's my take on it.
Title: Re: Daddy Nooooooo!!! (or crazy German putting power steering fluid in MX Blues)
Post by: noisyturtle on Sat, 05 July 2014, 01:27:03
Well on the up side, this video triggered my ASMR.
Title: Re: Daddy Nooooooo!!! (or crazy German putting power steering fluid in MX Blues)
Post by: Wildcard on Sat, 05 July 2014, 19:34:07
Well on the up side, this video triggered my ASMR.

That's one of the reasons I enjoy MX Blues so much. That and the lower key weight.
Title: Re: Daddy Nooooooo!!! (or crazy German putting power steering fluid in MX Blues)
Post by: mouse.the.lucky.dog on Sun, 06 July 2014, 14:42:18
I wonder if the liquid doesn't pool at the bottom and prevent the switch from going all the way down. Sort of a hydraulic keyswitch mod.
Title: Re: Daddy Nooooooo!!! (or crazy German putting power steering fluid in MX Blues)
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 06 July 2014, 15:01:50
I wonder if the liquid doesn't pool at the bottom and prevent the switch from going all the way down. Sort of a hydraulic keyswitch mod.

i doubt it

PSF is sticky stuff
Title: Re: Daddy Nooooooo!!! (or crazy German putting power steering fluid in MX Blues)
Post by: intelli78 on Sun, 06 July 2014, 15:08:33
This is horrifying.
Title: Re: Daddy Nooooooo!!! (or crazy German putting power steering fluid in MX Blues)
Post by: 1391406 on Sun, 06 July 2014, 15:50:41
If he was trying to eliminate the click, why purchase a keyboard with clicky switches to begin with? Sheesh.
Title: Re: Daddy Nooooooo!!! (or crazy German putting power steering fluid in MX Blues)
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 06 July 2014, 16:28:53
Just so everyone is on the same page, the "jailhouse blue" mod is by far the best way to solve the problem.
Title: Re: Daddy Nooooooo!!! (or crazy German putting power steering fluid in MX Blues)
Post by: iLLucionist on Tue, 08 July 2014, 15:04:12
If anybody would pull my caps with a pci case slot metal piece, I would kill him. Where is that keypuller?? By spoiling so much oil also around the switch, why not drown the whole keyboard in PSF? A lot quicker :P
Title: Re: Daddy Nooooooo!!! (or crazy German putting power steering fluid in MX Blues)
Post by: D01 on Tue, 08 July 2014, 15:25:49
Someone correct me but I think power steering fluid is hygroscopic.  It attracts water.  Not good eats.
Title: Re: Daddy Nooooooo!!! (or crazy German putting power steering fluid in MX Blues)
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 08 July 2014, 16:51:57
I love how he doesn't even wipe it off he just puts the keys back on.
Title: Re: Daddy Nooooooo!!! (or crazy German putting power steering fluid in MX Blues)
Post by: deltuhhh on Tue, 08 July 2014, 19:16:52
I love how he doesn't even wipe it off he just puts the keys back on.

Yeah, that bothered me more than it should have lol.
Title: Re: Daddy Nooooooo!!! (or crazy German putting power steering fluid in MX Blues)
Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 08 July 2014, 20:58:42
I think it's because in the long run the oil will collect dirt and dust and the keys will get sticky, which will also be hard to clean.

But I could be mistaken.

Not mistaken at all. We just witness the murder of a MX Keyboard by slow poisoning.
This board will be quickly developing asthma and will soon choke on dust.
Title: Re: Daddy Nooooooo!!! (or crazy German putting power steering fluid in MX Blues)
Post by: strict on Tue, 08 July 2014, 22:27:05
I love how he doesn't even wipe it off he just puts the keys back on.

That part bothered me more than anything else. Have some damn pride in your (****) work and wipe up the extra fluid your slovenly ass got all over the place.