geekhack
geekhack Community => Keyboards => Topic started by: Sagii on Sun, 06 July 2014, 14:30:11
-
Did a quick search.. and couldn't seem to find anything about, but pls lemme know if I overlooked something :)
Anyway, what I was gonna ask is if anyone has problem with keytravel.. Ever since I got my HHKB I just feel like the keytravel is simply too "long", and my fingers get tired of typing on it. I also strain my fingers a lot because of the long keytravel, it's like my fingers just simply tense when typing. Anyone had similar experiences? Also, I know about o-rings, just wanted to check if anyone else has had the same problem. :)
-
I don't have the same problem, but you can try installing 3/16" dental bands.
-
I don't have the same problem, but you can try installing 3/16" dental bands.
Yeah, Im considering it atm
-
I don't have the same problem, but you can try installing 3/16" dental bands.
Yeah, Im considering it atm
I can higly recommend it, the board doesn't lose the awesome *thunk* sound but it gets rid of most of the plasticky noises.
-
I do not have that problem with my HHKB. I bottom out all the time, even on MX black/green and Model M.
Do you tend to bottom out on non-Topre keyboards?
If you have found a couple of books as a wrist rest help (as long as you do NOT rest your wrists thereon whilst actually typing), maybe investing in a proper wrist rest will work out.
-
I just saw this thread somewhere else :eek:
-
I'v seen double posts before. But never double threads :P
-
I'v seen double posts before. But never double threads :P
It happens from time to time. Usually a moderator deletes the duplicate thread before some lunatic posts there.
-
I just saw this thread somewhere else :eek:
Huh ? O.o are there two?
-
I've merged the two. :thumb:
-
I've merged the two. :thumb:
Thanks, mate :)
-
Did a quick search.. and couldn't seem to find anything about, but pls lemme know if I overlooked something :)
Anyway, what I was gonna ask is if anyone has problem with keytravel.. Ever since I got my HHKB I just feel like the keytravel is simply too "long", and my fingers get tired of typing on it. I also strain my fingers a lot because of the long keytravel, it's like my fingers just simply tense when typing. Anyone had similar experiences? Also, I know about o-rings, just wanted to check if anyone else has had the same problem. :)
I'm pretty sure Topre switches have the same key travel as Cherry MX switches (someone please correct me if I'm wrong). But Topre keyboards have different key profiles than the typical board with Cherry MX switches, and that's probably what's causing you to think that they have different key travel, and the tired/strained feeling.
For what it's worth, I also had the same awkward/tired feeling when I first got my Topre, but I eventually got used to the key profile, and the straining stopped. I understand whether or not you'll get used to the profile will be different for every person, though.
-
Did a quick search.. and couldn't seem to find anything about, but pls lemme know if I overlooked something :)
Anyway, what I was gonna ask is if anyone has problem with keytravel.. Ever since I got my HHKB I just feel like the keytravel is simply too "long", and my fingers get tired of typing on it. I also strain my fingers a lot because of the long keytravel, it's like my fingers just simply tense when typing. Anyone had similar experiences? Also, I know about o-rings, just wanted to check if anyone else has had the same problem. :)
I'm pretty sure Topre switches have the same key travel as Cherry MX switches (someone please correct me if I'm wrong). But Topre keyboards have different key profiles than the typical board with Cherry MX switches, and that's probably what's causing you to think that they have different key travel, and the tired/strained feeling.
For what it's worth, I also had the same awkward/tired feeling when I first got my Topre, but I eventually got used to the key profile, and the straining stopped. I understand whether or not you'll get used to the profile will be different for every person, though.
I'm pretty sure they do, indeed :) I had the exact problem/feeling when using a Corsair K95 with reds ^^' I dunno.. I guess I have to get used to it, but as of right now it feels better (when typing for longer sessions) to type with my RD Razer Lycoza :eek:
-
Sounds like this thread should be in the Ergonomics section rather than here.
First off, some basic ergonomic tips: Your desk surface should be low and chair high so your elbows are at about 90 or even slightly more when resting your fingers on the board. If you can support your elbows on the chair somehow that will help, too.
The keyboard should be at the correct angle. Don't raise the back edge as that forces the wrists to bend upwards. I find most boards have a good angle when used "flat", but some are too angled, the HHKB has a good angle when not using the flip out feet. Raise your hands when typing and only rest the nub of the palms on a rest that has the correct height when you're not actively typing. A lot of mechanical boards are higher in general than RD boards and benefit from a tallish solid palm rest.
The Razer Lycosa has flat profile caps and very short key travel, so it's not "normal". The travel on Topre and MX switches is quite similar to most "normal" rubber dome boards with contoured keycap profile and a whole lot better than original mechanical typewriter keys ;)
Mechanical keyboard contoured keycap profiles are designed to help alleviate the stress of stretching your fingers out to different row keys, but the fingers need to be in the right position and at the right angle for it to help.
If your desk setup is good, angles are fine and your wrists and fingers are in the correct position and you still get fatigued using the board, it could be that you either simply need time to get used to the keycap profile and travel or that you really do need to shorten the travel a little. The dental band mod is a nice one, IMHO, it improves the key release sound a lot. Not sure about the actual key travel reduction.