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geekhack Community => Keyboards => Topic started by: dv8omega on Mon, 07 July 2014, 22:43:10
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wondering which mx cherry is most similar to the old dell keyboards. im just very use to it.
http://i.imgur.com/Cm99qHY.jpg
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MX red, probably. Linear, with not much resistance.
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I have used this keyboard for few years before switching to mechanical keyboard. And I think is similar to mx brown
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I have used this keyboard for few years before switching to mechanical keyboard. And I think is similar to mx brown
Except there's no tactile feedback from the Dell - just a mushy thud as the key reaches the bottom of the stroke (we have the same keyboards at work here).
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the only stand out to the dell board is the conforming convex space bar.. (http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/stress-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862521)
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If that keyboard was a normal membrane, then I think the closest feeling switch would have to be MX clears. However, I have never owned one of those.
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I have used this keyboard for few years before switching to mechanical keyboard. And I think is similar to mx brown
Except there's no tactile feedback from the Dell - just a mushy thud as the key reaches the bottom of the stroke (we have the same keyboards at work here).
These Dell boards most certainly have tactile feedback, but it's at the top as the domes collapse. It's stronger than that of Browns.
Out of stock Cherry switches, I would say that Clears would feel the closest, but they have a harder bottom out than the Dell and the Dell keys feel just a little lighter. So ErgoClears would match best.
I have one of those on my desk at work next to my KBT Pure with 62g ErgoClears and can say that they do feel very similar, but the Dell is a little mushier. It's the best stock rubber dome board I have ever used.
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wondering which mx cherry is most similar to the old dell keyboards. im just very use to it.
http://i.imgur.com/Cm99qHY.jpg
It's quite hard to tell because it depends on many factors. Since I also have typed on that keyboard for awhile so I think the most similar to it is the Cherry MX Brown ( a little bit tactile ) but with 80g spring from Cherry MX Black because that Dell is quite heavy when the dome getting old. The bad thing on that keyboard is the inconsistency key feeling. It will only be smooth when we touch the centre, but if we hit into the corner, it is hard like hell (similar like most of the dome keyboards)
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Modern Cherry MY with the ****tiest ABS keycaps you can find.
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I've been in the IT world for some times now and i would just like to point out that there's multiple revisions of this Dell keyboard (which in my opinion is one of the best modern rubber dome you get in the office sphere) and they feel somewhat different.
Some of them are stiffer than others and some of them are more linear than others. My friends familly all puchased their home computers from Dell and kept those keyboards (thus, he has two mighty Dell Quietkeys) and when you get to try them you can easily find differences between them.
So yeah, it's very hard to determine with a picture. In my opinion the best you could do is test it yourself with weights and determine the average actuation force require, then try to get an idea of the three major "feedback" families in MX switches (Linear, Tactile and clicky) and determine which switch you want.
That way you will get an optimal feel with your board.
Have a wonderful day.
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cant decide between browns and blues. i want a clicky feeling and some sort of feedback, but im afraid blues might be to loud overtime
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It's not really that clicky. If you think it's too much, get some o-rings, most probably the best mod when it comes to clicky switches, reduced the sound and reduced the bottom out distance.
It's just like adding an overpowered gem into an already overpowered weapon in Diable II.
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i should opt for blues then? going to use it mainly for gaming and typing
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there's multiple revisions of this Dell keyboard (which in my opinion is one of the best modern rubber dome you get in the office sphere) and they feel somewhat different.
I have had a few of these. One of them (probably the oldest and/or one not made in China) was not really too bad.
Similarly, the first-gen Quietkeys were really nice, but later variants aren't.
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there's multiple revisions of this Dell keyboard (which in my opinion is one of the best modern rubber dome you get in the office sphere) and they feel somewhat different.
I have had a few of these. One of them (probably the oldest and/or one not made in China) was not really too bad.
Similarly, the first-gen Quietkeys were really nice, but later variants aren't.
Yes, but rubber dome speaking, i'd say pretty much all of Dell boards i got to try were above average. It's pretty sad they never went into mechanical cause they could easily afford them considering their volume and even if they would mostly low grade mechs it would still be better than the current boards they bundle up with their home computers.
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Like AT101?
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Like AT101?
Isn't AT101 mechanical Alps? Because if you are talking about old Dell (too lazy to Google) then yes, they should have never left their mecanical greatness for puny rubberdomep00pness.
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Dell AT101(W) and QuietKey were made at the same time.
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would mx brown or blues be the closest experience?
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Closest? Maybe. Close enough? Hopefully not. It's like asking what sports car is the closest to a minivan. Well, they're different. If you want a rubber dome feel, get a rubber dome keyboard. Maybe even Topre.
That being said, I don't think clicky Cherry MX are anything like rubber domes. Maybe a bit like scissor switches, when used with dampeners or modded to jailhouse blues.
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Dell AT101(W) and QuietKey were made at the same time.
I did not realize that. I got an AT101W with a Dell system in the mid-1990s, and I don't remember paying extra for a keyboard upgrade.
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I don't have the oldest quietkeys (GYUR10SK being one of them) anymore, but I'm quite sure they were older then my current GYUM90SK. I mean, just look at the FCC ID.
It sounds quite plausible that Dell could start to distribute quietkeys just like IBM made rubber-dome "Model Ms" for quiet office environments, while still selling buckling-spring keyboards.
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My question would be, why do you want to have a similar feeling?
IMO the whole point in mech boards is to feel something different. I haven't got two boards with the same switches because I want to experience all the different facets of mechanical switches.
I would recommend getting something completely different, but that's just me.
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cant decide between browns n blues
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cant decide between browns n blues
Browwwwwwns
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Why not both?
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dont have $ for both. already dropped 1k for a new pc
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would mx brown or blues be the closest experience?
Browns would be closer than Blues.
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(http://i.imgur.com/Cm99qHY.jpg)
This is Dell SK-8135. It is cheap and the key feeling is inconsistency. It is nothing like the premium Dell QuietKey (the one using NMB Japan-made dome) and AT-101. Some even said the NMB Dell QuietKey is even comparable to Topre 45g. I owned both and feel otherwise. Topre 45s has more consistent and solid key feeling, the tactile bump from Topre is also more consistent. Indeed, I need to admit the Japan-made dome delivers the top quality on the market, no matter it is on the Dell QuietKey or Topre.
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would mx brown or blues be the closest experience?
Browns would be closer than Blues.
Indeed the tactile feedback rather than clicky feedback is somewhat closer to rubberdome silliness.