WHY IS THERE A PHONE NEXT TO THE TOPIC NAME ON THESE REPLIES
IM SO CONFUSED
WHY IS THERE A PHONE NEXT TO THE TOPIC NAME ON THESE REPLIES
IM SO CONFUSED
WHY IS THERE A PHONE NEXT TO THE TOPIC NAME ON THESE REPLIES
IM SO CONFUSED
We were using imode and wap/wap2 lightweight (for mobile browsing, hence the phone) versions of the forum because lynx doesn't work as well with the full version of the site.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?imode
http://geekhack.org/index.php?wap2
and just for reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-mode
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_Application_Protocol
WHY IS THERE A PHONE NEXT TO THE TOPIC NAME ON THESE REPLIES
IM SO CONFUSED
The topic was posted from inside the MATRIX.
There. Happy now, Hoff?
:P
[WTB] VT220
Disclaimer: this post NOT sent from a physical terminal
I will soon have a WYSE Wy-50 terminal connected to a *nix box of some fashion. Maybe this thread will be for posts from ANY physical text-based terminal (non emulated). Yay!
Oh, and I almost forgot. This is related. Please excuse the potato pics. I need to cross post this to What Did You Get in the Mall Today:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/uKOah56.jpg)
Oh, and I almost forgot. This is related. Please excuse the potato pics. I need to cross post this to What Did You Get in the Mall Today:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/uKOah56.jpg)
Nice! I just ordered a B+ today. I'm going to get the green VT220 up and stream some text adventures on twitch in the coming week.
Not exactly a post originating from a VT220, but here is my VT220 ...
(Attachment Link)
It used to be the console connected to a VAX called DEWEY.
Not exactly a post originating from a VT220, but here is my VT220 ...
(Attachment Link)
It used to be the console connected to a VAX called DEWEY.
Did you try powering it up? You should at least be able to get into the F3 menu if you have the keyboard.
Not exactly a post originating from a VT220, but here is my VT220 ...
(Attachment Link)
It used to be the console connected to a VAX called DEWEY.
Did you try powering it up? You should at least be able to get into the F3 menu if you have the keyboard.
Haven't even tried. At the moment I have nothing to connect it to either.
I also have the manual lying around somewhere.
And an HP 700/96 here at work that I can take any time I want.
Not exactly a post originating from a VT220, but here is my VT220 ...
(Attachment Link)
It used to be the console connected to a VAX called DEWEY.
Did you try powering it up? You should at least be able to get into the F3 menu if you have the keyboard.
Haven't even tried. At the moment I have nothing to connect it to either.
I also have the manual lying around somewhere.
And an HP 700/96 here at work that I can take any time I want.
Keyspan USB Serial Adapter (works great in linux, bsd, osx, etc)
http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-USA-19HS-High-Speed-supports/dp/B0000VYJRY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406074634&sr=8-1&keywords=keyspan (http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-USA-19HS-High-Speed-supports/dp/B0000VYJRY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406074634&sr=8-1&keywords=keyspan)
Then you just need (an epic daisy chain) the 25 pin (iirc) female -> null modem cable -> keyspan -> usb
oh, and the appropriate line for getty, etc
Not exactly a post originating from a VT220, but here is my VT220 ...
(Attachment Link)
It used to be the console connected to a VAX called DEWEY.
Did you try powering it up? You should at least be able to get into the F3 menu if you have the keyboard.
Haven't even tried. At the moment I have nothing to connect it to either.
I also have the manual lying around somewhere.
And an HP 700/96 here at work that I can take any time I want.
Keyspan USB Serial Adapter (works great in linux, bsd, osx, etc)
http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-USA-19HS-High-Speed-supports/dp/B0000VYJRY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406074634&sr=8-1&keywords=keyspan (http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-USA-19HS-High-Speed-supports/dp/B0000VYJRY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406074634&sr=8-1&keywords=keyspan)
Then you just need (an epic daisy chain) the 25 pin (iirc) female -> null modem cable -> keyspan -> usb
oh, and the appropriate line for getty, etc
Apparently the PS/2 to USB adaptor I got from mkawa a while back is also a serial to USB convertor, but I haven't explored that avenue yet.
Actually a working terminal would be useful now - my other half's monitor died so she took the one from my server.
Not exactly a post originating from a VT220, but here is my VT220 ...
(Attachment Link)
It used to be the console connected to a VAX called DEWEY.
Did you try powering it up? You should at least be able to get into the F3 menu if you have the keyboard.
Haven't even tried. At the moment I have nothing to connect it to either.
I also have the manual lying around somewhere.
And an HP 700/96 here at work that I can take any time I want.
Keyspan USB Serial Adapter (works great in linux, bsd, osx, etc)
http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-USA-19HS-High-Speed-supports/dp/B0000VYJRY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406074634&sr=8-1&keywords=keyspan (http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-USA-19HS-High-Speed-supports/dp/B0000VYJRY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406074634&sr=8-1&keywords=keyspan)
Then you just need (an epic daisy chain) the 25 pin (iirc) female -> null modem cable -> keyspan -> usb
oh, and the appropriate line for getty, etc
Apparently the PS/2 to USB adaptor I got from mkawa a while back is also a serial to USB convertor, but I haven't explored that avenue yet.
Actually a working terminal would be useful now - my other half's monitor died so she took the one from my server.
You going to rewire one of the orihalcon ones? then it would show up as a no-name POS device IIRC (I have a few of those). I would just get a keyspan, like I said, works really well in linux.
What color is your VT220?
Well, looks like us WYSE guys are screwed. Maybe. The WYSE 50 does not have emulation for VT100, VT220, etc. And the terminfo data for the WYSE 50 is missing from modern Linux distros, Ubuntu anyway (from /lib/terminfo). Maybe I can create a termcap file with the correct ESC sequences to compile using 'tic' into the correct terminfo data. We shall see. As of now, I can log in, but I can't run lynx at all, and any scrolling pages are garbled.
Or maybe I'll wait until my WYSE 85 terminal arrives, since it has VT100 emulation built in. :)
Well, looks like us WYSE guys are screwed. Maybe. The WYSE 50 does not have emulation for VT100, VT220, etc. And the terminfo data for the WYSE 50 is missing from modern Linux distros, Ubuntu anyway (from /lib/terminfo). Maybe I can create a termcap file with the correct ESC sequences to compile using 'tic' into the correct terminfo data. We shall see. As of now, I can log in, but I can't run lynx at all, and any scrolling pages are garbled.
Or maybe I'll wait until my WYSE 85 terminal arrives, since it has VT100 emulation built in. :)
Waiiiit a minute, are you sure we can't emulate VT100? My dad was boasting about how the WY-50 could emulate the VT100. As always, it's possible he's wrong :)) but it sure would be nice if he weren't!
Well, looks like us WYSE guys are screwed. Maybe. The WYSE 50 does not have emulation for VT100, VT220, etc. And the terminfo data for the WYSE 50 is missing from modern Linux distros, Ubuntu anyway (from /lib/terminfo). Maybe I can create a termcap file with the correct ESC sequences to compile using 'tic' into the correct terminfo data. We shall see. As of now, I can log in, but I can't run lynx at all, and any scrolling pages are garbled.
Or maybe I'll wait until my WYSE 85 terminal arrives, since it has VT100 emulation built in. :)
Waiiiit a minute, are you sure we can't emulate VT100? My dad was boasting about how the WY-50 could emulate the VT100. As always, it's possible he's wrong :)) but it sure would be nice if he weren't!
VT100 emulation started with the WYSE 60 terminal. :(
Well, looks like us WYSE guys are screwed. Maybe. The WYSE 50 does not have emulation for VT100, VT220, etc. And the terminfo data for the WYSE 50 is missing from modern Linux distros, Ubuntu anyway (from /lib/terminfo). Maybe I can create a termcap file with the correct ESC sequences to compile using 'tic' into the correct terminfo data. We shall see. As of now, I can log in, but I can't run lynx at all, and any scrolling pages are garbled.
Or maybe I'll wait until my WYSE 85 terminal arrives, since it has VT100 emulation built in. :)
Waiiiit a minute, are you sure we can't emulate VT100? My dad was boasting about how the WY-50 could emulate the VT100. As always, it's possible he's wrong :)) but it sure would be nice if he weren't!
VT100 emulation started with the WYSE 60 terminal. :(
Well that's dumb.
I wanna post to GH from my terminal!
So...what can we do with them?
Well, looks like us WYSE guys are screwed. Maybe. The WYSE 50 does not have emulation for VT100, VT220, etc. And the terminfo data for the WYSE 50 is missing from modern Linux distros, Ubuntu anyway (from /lib/terminfo). Maybe I can create a termcap file with the correct ESC sequences to compile using 'tic' into the correct terminfo data. We shall see. As of now, I can log in, but I can't run lynx at all, and any scrolling pages are garbled.
Or maybe I'll wait until my WYSE 85 terminal arrives, since it has VT100 emulation built in. :)
Waiiiit a minute, are you sure we can't emulate VT100? My dad was boasting about how the WY-50 could emulate the VT100. As always, it's possible he's wrong :)) but it sure would be nice if he weren't!
VT100 emulation started with the WYSE 60 terminal. :(
Well that's dumb.
I wanna post to GH from my terminal!
So...what can we do with them?
I haven't given up on getting the 50 to work, yet. I just need to tinker with Linux a bit. :)
Well, looks like us WYSE guys are screwed. Maybe. The WYSE 50 does not have emulation for VT100, VT220, etc. And the terminfo data for the WYSE 50 is missing from modern Linux distros, Ubuntu anyway (from /lib/terminfo). Maybe I can create a termcap file with the correct ESC sequences to compile using 'tic' into the correct terminfo data. We shall see. As of now, I can log in, but I can't run lynx at all, and any scrolling pages are garbled.
Or maybe I'll wait until my WYSE 85 terminal arrives, since it has VT100 emulation built in. :)
Waiiiit a minute, are you sure we can't emulate VT100? My dad was boasting about how the WY-50 could emulate the VT100. As always, it's possible he's wrong :)) but it sure would be nice if he weren't!
VT100 emulation started with the WYSE 60 terminal. :(
Well that's dumb.
I wanna post to GH from my terminal!
So...what can we do with them?
Why do you need VT100 emulation?
Last time I looked (admittedly quite a few years ago) Linux had a database of thousands of different terminals!
Why do you need VT100 emulation?
Last time I looked (admittedly quite a few years ago) Linux had a database of thousands of different terminals!
For some inane reason, modern Linux distros don't seem to include terminfo data for older terminals. They do include support for VT100, though. Why is it that BSD seems to have the correct terminfo, but Linux doesn't? I found some termcap data for the WYSE 50, but I think you have to compile it to use it. So I'm looking at that now. I really want to use Ubuntu/Debian with this thing.
In other news, my WYSE 85 clone (Triad) terminal arrived today. It didn't include a keyboard, but I have a WYSE 85 keyboard that is in pieces. I just need to solder switches into it. :)
Why do you need VT100 emulation?
Last time I looked (admittedly quite a few years ago) Linux had a database of thousands of different terminals!
For some inane reason, modern Linux distros don't seem to include terminfo data for older terminals. They do include support for VT100, though. Why is it that BSD seems to have the correct terminfo, but Linux doesn't? I found some termcap data for the WYSE 50, but I think you have to compile it to use it. So I'm looking at that now. I really want to use Ubuntu/Debian with this thing.
In other news, my WYSE 85 clone (Triad) terminal arrived today. It didn't include a keyboard, but I have a WYSE 85 keyboard that is in pieces. I just need to solder switches into it. :)
It's true. The latest Linux distros have removed all but a handful of the terminal definitions. AND they switched to systemd! If you guys are interested, I'll post up a step-by-step for the latest Fedora 20.
become root
$ sudo su -
disable modem manager
# mv /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/org.freedesktop.ModemManager.service \
/usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/org.freedesktop.ModemManager.service.disable
# killall modem-manager
the following assumes that your usb-to-serial adapter is detected as /dev/ttyUSB0
# cp /usr/lib/systemd/system/serial-getty@.service /etc/systemd/system/serial-getty@ttyUSB0.service
edit /etc/systemd/system/serial-getty@ttyUSB0.service
ExecStart=-/sbin/agetty -L -i -a myuser -s %I 9600 ibm3151
start the getty service
# systemctl --system daemon-reload
# systemctl start serial-getty@ttyUSB0.service
download and view terminfo file
# wget http://invisible-island.net/datafiles/current/terminfo.src.gz
copy and paste entries for ibm3151 and all referenced "use=___" entries into ibm3151.terminfo file
# zless terminfo.src.gz
search in less with a forward slash ala: /ibm3151
install the terminfo
# tic ibm3151.terminfo
check that the entry is installed
# ls /usr/share/terminfo/i/ibm*
# infocmp ibm3151
restart the getty service
# systemctl restart serial-getty@ttyUSB0.service
install some fun terminal programs
# yum install lynx bsd-games
I question the worthiness of this thread as a permanent sticky.
I question the worthiness of this thread as a permanent sticky.
rudeI question the worthiness of this thread as a permanent sticky.
Agreed.
I question the worthiness of this thread as a permanent sticky.
Agreed.
I question the worthiness of this thread as a permanent sticky.
Agreed.
RIP VT220 sticky :'(