It's probably just some hot shot with weapons stolen from the Ukraine army but this will have consequences. I cannot imagine the international community will let this go easily.
I dunno, Jacco, I'm constantly amazed at what the intl community lets countries get away with...
A summary so far:
http://m.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28354856 (http://m.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28354856).
I'm not sure. It's one thing to have people kill each other over a country. (Russia/Ukraine) (Israel/Palestine)
It's another thing to shoot innocent bystanders from a different country.
Malaysian air is a SkyTeam partner I believe...
That's KLM, British Air, Singapore Airlines, American Airlines, Air France...
most news agencies claim the plane was shot down. but from initial videos, doesn't seem to be like that. :blank:Bodies have been found 15km from the crash site, indicating it fell apart mid-air.
To my knowledge russian rebels took over an AA base or something a couple months ago. They posted earlier showing off a BUK. They also claimed to have shot down a su-25 and what they believed was a military transport (an-26). This may be incorrect though. My knowledge is coming from the huge reddit thread.most news agencies claim the plane was shot down. but from initial videos, doesn't seem to be like that. :blank:Bodies have been found 15km from the crash site, indicating it fell apart mid-air.
But it could still fall down, relatively intact. But the photos indicate that it was pretty much obliterated when it hit the ground.
To my knowledge russian rebels took over an AA base or something a couple months ago. They posted earlier showing off a BUK. They also claimed to have shot down a su-25 and what they believed was a military transport (an-26). This may be incorrect though. My knowledge is coming from the huge reddit thread.most news agencies claim the plane was shot down. but from initial videos, doesn't seem to be like that. :blank:Bodies have been found 15km from the crash site, indicating it fell apart mid-air.
But it could still fall down, relatively intact. But the photos indicate that it was pretty much obliterated when it hit the ground.
the videos claiming to show the plane crashing don't show any signs of smoke trail or such. in any case, it was a horrible way to die. :blank:most news agencies claim the plane was shot down. but from initial videos, doesn't seem to be like that. :blank:Bodies have been found 15km from the crash site, indicating it fell apart mid-air.
But it could still fall down, relatively intact. But the photos indicate that it was pretty much obliterated when it hit the ground.
the videos claiming to show the plane crashing don't show any signs of smoke trail or such. in any case, it was a horrible way to die. :blank:most news agencies claim the plane was shot down. but from initial videos, doesn't seem to be like that. :blank:Bodies have been found 15km from the crash site, indicating it fell apart mid-air.
But it could still fall down, relatively intact. But the photos indicate that it was pretty much obliterated when it hit the ground.
Wow. Glad your folks are okay. Russians starting s*%>t again. ProRussian Separatists ==FSBcome on, that was iri himself.
I serve the FSB.
What I don't understand is why FAA still allow commercial flight to do through the air space, knowing that it is currently having ground conflict. And the fact that a few military planes were shot down the previous week. This is such a bummer.It's a shorter route and cheaper. North Korea, Iran and Irak has planes flying over their territory as well.
A Schipol Airport official said during a press conference that there were 154 Dutch, 43 Malaysian (including 15 crew and 2 infants), 27 Australian, 11 Indonesian (including 1 infant), 9 United Kingdom, 4 Germany, 4 Belgium, 3 Philippines, and 1 Canadian residents on board.
41 passengers nationalities are known. There were reportedly 23 Americans on board.
everyone stay the fug out of eastern europe in generaldon't breathe my precious air
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The new flight path..
Wow, that's very awkward.Show Image(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/18/y8ezagyp.jpg)
The new flight path..
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if you mean strong alcohol vapours, gunpowder, smoke, drugs, and sewage gasses, i'll be your guesteveryone stay the fug out of eastern europe in generaldon't breathe my precious air
if you mean strong alcohol vapours, gunpowder, smoke, drugs, and sewage gasses, i'll be your guesteveryone stay the fug out of eastern europe in generaldon't breathe my precious air
wowhah
don't seem to be where i liveif you mean strong alcohol vapours, gunpowder, smoke, drugs, and sewage gasses, i'll be your guesteveryone stay the fug out of eastern europe in generaldon't breathe my precious air
All of these things are everywhere.
The story that seems to be coming across in the usa anyway is that it was a BUK system and that the separatists did it but mistook it for another military transport and not a passenger jet.
Malaysia Airline is just so unlucky this year. This incident will surely put the company into bankruptcy (it's already on the verge and just a month ago had a new CEO).. Sigh!
Just some observations without judging:
The Ukraine is a area between the newer Euro countries (some just recently added) and Russia
Russia is the head of the BRIC states initiative which wants to form the NDB to bypass the World Bank (uh-oh!)
The NDB and the perhaps resulting separate world currency would really hurt the US Dollar and Euro which are already in big trouble
All countries which tried to bypass the USD/Euro trading got "liberated", had a "revolution", or got in other trouble resulting to return to the USD
A big conflict in the area between Russia and the West would help to create a new cold war, and this would help to shut-off Russia/BRICs from the West
wow, rowdy can slavic languages
one tinfoil hat and a ticket to mars, please.
What the heck is wrong with people, I need a bunker with a lifetime supply of SPAM, Putin needs a hobby to distract him from nation building, why can't we all just get along?
What the heck is wrong with people, I need a bunker with a lifetime supply of SPAM, Putin needs a hobby to distract him from nation building, why can't we all just get along?
Lifetime supply of SPAM sounds terrible. I already get more spam in one day than I want to read for a lifetime.
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Europe has turned into Putin's play toy. And he might be the world's most powerful troll.