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Title: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [CLOSED]
Post by: strict on Fri, 18 July 2014, 22:02:33
The intro

This is a group buy for stainless steel Phantom plates. I plan to use the same metal fabrication shop that was used for the stainless uTKL plates last round. They will be using a 5KW laser CNC machine to cut the plates from 16 ga. 304 stainless steel. They do excellent work and everyone seemed very pleased with the quality of the plates from R1.

The plates

There are 3 plate designs being offered; ANSI 125, ANSI 150, and 7BIT. These plates are designed to support both Costar and Cherry plate mount stabilizers as well as off-center capslock and off-center spacebars. Please note that these plates will not fit on PCB's for keyboards like Filco's, Ducky's, KUL's, etc. However, the plates will fit inside many popular TKL cases from Filco, Ducky, CoolerMaster, and others. The plate designs have very graciously been provided by jdcarpe. We used his designs for the last round of stainless plates and they came out perfect!

These are renders of the final plate designs.

ANSI 125 - 87 switches. Popular standard layout of mainstream keyboards. ANSI layout with 1.25x bottom modifiers and 6.25x space bar.
(http://i.imgur.com/6Nd58cG.png)

ANSI 150 - 86 switches. Popular with Cherry and Korean customs. ANSI layout with bottom modifiers in 1.5x - 1x - 1.5x and 7x space bar.
(http://i.imgur.com/fsLIIcu.png)

7BIT - 101 switches. Highly innovative ergonomic layout, following scientific research. Contrary to ANSI or ISO layouts, it does not require stabilizers because the key sizes are limited to max of 1.75 units.
(http://i.imgur.com/QuQk1H1.png)

The orders

Orders will be open until AUGUST 31 or until we reach a hard limit of 60 total plates, whichever comes first.  I want to keep this small enough I can ensure everything goes as smoothly as possible for everyone involved, myself included. There is a MOQ of at least 36 total plates for this to go to production. Invoicing will begin very shortly after ordering closes. Payments will be collected via PayPal and all payments should be made in USD. Payments will be due within 5 days of the time you receive the invoice.

As always, V2 BroBots and Clack's are totally acceptable forms of payment ;)

Plates
$35/ea.

CONUS shipping
1-2 plates - $6
3-4 plates - $12
5+ plates - $18

International shipping
1-2 plates - $25
3-4 plates - $50
5+ plates - $75

Plates will be shipped via USPS flat rate envelopes for both domestic and international orders. I will be able to fit a maximum of 2 plates per shipping envelope. If you order 5 or more plates it will be more cost efficient to use a USPS flat rate box.

The fine print

The plates will have production markings (slight scratches and scuffs) so don't expect an art piece with a flawless finish. I will try my best to make sure every plate is as perfect as possible but if something happens that you receive a defective plate, please let me know and I will do my best to make it right.

The order form

Order form closed

Final order count
Total - 39 plates

ANSI 125 - 20
ANSI 150 - 11
7BIT - 8
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 19 July 2014, 12:04:43
Thanks for doing a Round 2!

I will place my order in the next couple of days :)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Sat, 19 July 2014, 12:13:58
Nice to see round two.  The plates from round one had some impressively clean laser work, and the tolerances were very tight.  I really look forward to picking up another spare phantom plate!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: awong on Sat, 19 July 2014, 12:37:42
I order one of each
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: TBone on Sat, 19 July 2014, 13:05:25
Definitely interested, only thing. Are the ANSI plates compatible with off center caps locks?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 19 July 2014, 13:31:53
Definitely interested, only thing. Are the ANSI plates compatible with off center caps locks?

These plates will support both Costar and Cherry plate mount stabilizers. They support off-center capslock and off-center spacebars.


I guess so ;)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: TBone on Sun, 20 July 2014, 11:03:29
Dang sorry didn't even fully read the post. I'm in for one ANSI150, that layout looks so good.

Now just to find a cheap donor case hopefully. Really not ready to drop $200+ on a metal case yet.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 20 July 2014, 11:12:14
Dang sorry didn't even fully read the post. I'm in for one ANSI150, that layout looks so good.

Now just to find a cheap donor case hopefully. Really not ready to drop $200+ on a metal case yet.

I am not even aware TKL metal cases are available right now seperately. Can you link me to some please?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Sun, 20 July 2014, 11:15:27
Dang sorry didn't even fully read the post. I'm in for one ANSI150, that layout looks so good.

Now just to find a cheap donor case hopefully. Really not ready to drop $200+ on a metal case yet.
Sprit has some beautiful acrylic cases that are very reasonably priced, I'm pretty sure you can still get them.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 20 July 2014, 11:19:50
Yeah, I am aware of these, but I prefer a metal one.

The ones he offers in his GB didn'T make MOQ right?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Sun, 20 July 2014, 11:21:06
Yeah, I am aware of these, but I prefer a metal one.

The ones he offers in his GB didn'T make MOQ right?
I don't believe they did, but I haven't been keeping up with that GB too much lately.

There's also these, but I'm not entirely sure about compatibility.
http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=44 (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=44)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: TBone on Sun, 20 July 2014, 11:23:47
Dang sorry didn't even fully read the post. I'm in for one ANSI150, that layout looks so good.

Now just to find a cheap donor case hopefully. Really not ready to drop $200+ on a metal case yet.

I am not even aware TKL metal cases are available right now seperately. Can you link me to some please?

MechanicalKeyboards.com has some Vortex (heard only bad things about them really) and TEX (heard nothing about their TKL really). Here is the TEX http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=280 (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=280)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 20 July 2014, 11:25:30
Nice! Those are really reasonable priced.

Looks like it is only compatible with Filcos though. Hopefully someone does a review on these cases and tests different PCBs and the quality of the case.

I'd love to put my future Phantom in such a case ;)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: strict on Sun, 20 July 2014, 12:02:58
Sprit has some beautiful acrylic cases that are very reasonably priced, I'm pretty sure you can still get them.

I plan on picking up one of his Model 3 cases for my Phantom  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: awong on Sun, 20 July 2014, 12:48:53
Is tex case phantom compatible? There is three in stock I do not know if I buy or no.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 20 July 2014, 12:59:08
Is tex case phantom compatible? There is three in stock I do not know if I buy or no.

It probably relies on the bends in the plate to support the PCB/plate assembly in the case, just like the Vortex case does.

Also, this TEX case seems not to be as deep on the bottom. The Phantom may not fit, due to the Teensy on the underside of the PCB. But the only way to know for sure would be to test it.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: aicrono on Tue, 22 July 2014, 18:26:27
If I want to change my order / add stuff to it, should I PM you or just submit another order with the changes made to it? I would like to change my order to include a 7bit as well.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: strict on Tue, 22 July 2014, 19:19:58
If I want to change my order / add stuff to it, should I PM you or just submit another order with the changes made to it? I would like to change my order to include a 7bit as well.

If you want to make changes just go ahead and submit another order. I also made sure to enable editing on the Google form so if you save the edit link they give you at the end you will be able to modify your existing order independently.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: aicrono on Tue, 22 July 2014, 22:34:36
I saw the edit link when I had originally submitted the order and figured it would be saved next time I go to the page, but I guess wrong. I will just make a new order with every thing I want and leave a comment in the shipping address section to let you know its good to remove my previous order. No more changes after this I promise  :p
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: strict on Tue, 22 July 2014, 22:46:58
I saw the edit link when I had originally submitted the order and figured it would be saved next time I go to the page, but I guess wrong. I will just make a new order with every thing I want and leave a comment in the shipping address section to let you know its good to remove my previous order. No more changes after this I promise  :p

No worries! I saw your updated order and deleted your old one so you're good to go.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: aicrono on Tue, 22 July 2014, 23:15:30
I saw the edit link when I had originally submitted the order and figured it would be saved next time I go to the page, but I guess wrong. I will just make a new order with every thing I want and leave a comment in the shipping address section to let you know its good to remove my previous order. No more changes after this I promise  :p

No worries! I saw your updated order and deleted your old one so you're good to go.

Awesome, thanks! I bookmarked the edit link just in case. Hope this meets MOQ because I think 7bit might just be the layout I'm looking for.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: Heezy on Wed, 23 July 2014, 01:39:38
Will order one when I'm ready!  :p
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: danielucf on Wed, 23 July 2014, 08:01:48
Any chance new layout options could be added?

Some kind of universal plate that would allow 1.75x shift + 1 or 2.75x shift, two 1x keys or 2x backspace would be my top pick. If it could also support some crazy bottom rows with 8x or 10x spacebars that would be my dream Phantom plate.

Here is an example:
(http://i.imgur.com/XinUxaq.jpg)

That is 1.25 1.25 9.75 1.25 1.25. I have a 10x spacebar on right now which eliminates the small space on both sides, but if you use an 8x spacebar the spacing looks good. With universal bottom you could do all kinds of of either 1x, 1.25x, or 1.5x keys with spacebars from 8-10x size. The stabilizer spacing is the same for 8, 9.75, and 10 size spacebars, and probably 9x as well.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: bueller on Wed, 23 July 2014, 08:05:06
Any chance new layout options could be added?

Some kind of universal plate that would allow 1.75x shift + 1 or 2.75x shift, two 1x keys or 2x backspace would be my top pick. If it could also support some crazy bottom rows with 8x or 10x spacebars that would be my dream Phantom plate.

Here is an example:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/XinUxaq.jpg)


That is 1.25 1.25 9.75 1.25 1.25. I have a 10x spacebar on right now which eliminates the small space on both sides, but if you use an 8x spacebar the spacing looks good. With universal bottom you could do all kinds of of either 1x, 1.25x, or 1.5x keys with spacebars from 8-10x size. The stabilizer spacing is the same for 8, 9.75, and 10 size spacebars, and probably 9x as well.

Agreed, the only thing that's keeping me from getting in on this is the lack of universal shift support. Doesn't hurt anyone to add it and you'll probably get more orders.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 23 July 2014, 08:13:20
You guys don't seem to understand how the Phantom works. There are no holes in the PCB for stabilizers, so any stabilizers you use MUST be plate mounted. That one fact, unfortunately, precludes the use of a "universal" plate design. The elongated holes on the "universal" plate allow for different shift and bottom row options, but they also REQUIRE that you use PCB mount stabilizers. Because you lose the openings for the plate mount stabilizers when you open up the holes like that. Plate mount stabilizers must necessarily lock onto the plate, and require a defined hole for doing so.


By the way, the stabilizer holes in the ANSI 150 plate I designed allow for 7u, 8u, 9.75u, and 10u spacebars. The only one that really makes sense to use, other than 7u, is 10u, since you can lose the two 1.5u switches on either side of the spacebar.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: danielucf on Wed, 23 July 2014, 08:21:23
Then I'd be happy if it was permanently 1.75x and 1x and two 1x for backspace. I also didn't know the other already supports the spacing for 8x-10x spacebars, that is pretty cool. My stabilizers for those longer spacebars are plate mount.

PS: We need Phantom 2.0 with backlight and surface mount side LED options.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 23 July 2014, 08:26:42
Then I'd be happy if it was permanently 1.75x and 1x and two 1x for backspace.

I doubt that would get any significant number of orders. Maybe you should have asked about it in the IC for these a while ago, to see if anyone would vote for that design? When ordering plates from the metal shop, low quantity orders either don't get made, or cost quite a bit more.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: danielucf on Wed, 23 July 2014, 08:35:55
Good to know, I was not aware that with different designs it could increase the price. Maybe we got spoiled with a ton of options on the Ti 60% plates. I thought you just needed an MOC of plates, but it makes sense that if someone has to load up a different file to be cut it would increase labor either slightly or significantly.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: bueller on Wed, 23 July 2014, 08:42:17
Ah yeah I forgot about the stab situation, that's a shame.

danielucf - let me know what you're interested in and I'll sort something out, I need a couple of 60 plates made and I'm thinking of cutting another Phantom plate to replace my Filco.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: strict on Wed, 23 July 2014, 08:47:26
Then I'd be happy if it was permanently 1.75x and 1x and two 1x for backspace. I also didn't know the other already supports the spacing for 8x-10x spacebars, that is pretty cool. My stabilizers for those longer spacebars are plate mount.

PS: We need Phantom 2.0 with backlight and surface mount side LED options.

I only intended to offer two plate designs when I set out to do this (before it became a Phantom plate buy) because I didn't want to hassle the metal shop with 5 or 7 or 10 or however many designs people could come up with. They were courteous enough to give me job rate pricing but asked that I keep a reasonable limit on the number of designs. The specific design you're asking for (ANSI 150 SPLIT SHIFT/BACKSPACE) only managed to get a single vote when presented in the interest check thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59910.0) so it hardly seemed worthwhile to offer.

Has there been any talk/development on the next Phantom revision? I would love to see a Phantom that supports PCB mount stabs as that would really open up a lot of options for universal plate designs.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 23 July 2014, 09:09:45
I don't think bpiphany is actively designing anything in the way of a Phantom 2.0, but I could be mistaken.

You can get pretty much what you want with the BeastMask designs (FaceW) that sprit is selling. I think he has a TKL version PCB on offer. But I'm pretty sure the Phantom plates WILL NOT work with those, as the spacing between the function row and number row is different, from what I remember.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: danielucf on Wed, 23 July 2014, 09:26:46
I have a 2.75x titanium shift and nothing to put it on so maybe I'll just order the ANSI 150 plate since I now know it'll support 10x spacebar.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: aicrono on Wed, 23 July 2014, 21:17:36
I just noticed the function row on the 7bit is just 1x all the way across with no gaps. Is there a 7bit version with standard groupings on the function row? I still plan on picking up a 7bit plate as is and will probably end up modifying it.

Side note, does anyone know of a good way to cut small sections out of a stainless steel plate? :) I'm guessing a dremel will do the job but not too sure about what type of disc or anything to use.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: AKmalamute on Wed, 23 July 2014, 21:36:52
Is there a 7bit version with standard groupings on the function row[...]
Side note, does anyone know of a good way to cut small sections out of a stainless steel plate? :) I'm guessing a dremel will do the job but not too sure about what type of disc or anything to use.

 If it doesn't use every available switch on the phantom, it isn't an 7bit plate. (and no, I've never seen/heard of a hybrid like you're describing)

 Also, stainless steel is pretty hard. Carbide tips are probably called for. And lots of patience. Or lots of dremels, whichever's your preference ;)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: aicrono on Wed, 23 July 2014, 23:13:01
Is there a 7bit version with standard groupings on the function row[...]
Side note, does anyone know of a good way to cut small sections out of a stainless steel plate? :) I'm guessing a dremel will do the job but not too sure about what type of disc or anything to use.

 If it doesn't use every available switch on the phantom, it isn't an 7bit plate. (and no, I've never seen/heard of a hybrid like you're describing)

 Also, stainless steel is pretty hard. Carbide tips are probably called for. And lots of patience. Or lots of dremels, whichever's your preference ;)

Ah, I see. Thanks for the response. It looks like I will be blowing through some carbide cutting disks and patience in the next couple coming months. I'm usually pretty stacked on patience so things should turn out well!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 23 July 2014, 23:20:56
Hmmm, maybe I can change a little  thing...

It's late and time for bed here in Texas. I'll post something cool in the morning for you guys to consider.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 24 July 2014, 08:30:02
Okay, here it is:

(http://i.imgur.com/IHo2p7s.png)


You can use either the 15-switch F-row, or the standard 13-switch F-row. Since there are no stabilizers on the F-row, no need to worry about elongated holes. And every switch will still snap into the plate at the front and back, just not the corners.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: Heezy on Thu, 24 July 2014, 09:23:41
Any Australians wanna share shipping?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: strict on Thu, 24 July 2014, 10:03:07
Okay, here it is:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/IHo2p7s.png)



You can use either the 15-switch F-row, or the standard 13-switch F-row. Since there are no stabilizers on the F-row, no need to worry about elongated holes. And every switch will still snap into the plate at the front and back, just not the corners.

Very cool design, jd! Do you have a name for this new plate? 7BIT V2?

If the three current 7bit orders (and any future ones) would rather have this design I have no problem switching it out.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: aicrono on Thu, 24 July 2014, 12:56:48
Okay, here it is:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/IHo2p7s.png)



You can use either the 15-switch F-row, or the standard 13-switch F-row. Since there are no stabilizers on the F-row, no need to worry about elongated holes. And every switch will still snap into the plate at the front and back, just not the corners.


Very cool design, jd! Do you have a name for this new plate? 7BIT V2?

If the three current 7bit orders (and any future ones) would rather have this design I have no problem switching it out.

That design looks awesome. I'd certainly be okay with this change.

Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: awong on Thu, 24 July 2014, 13:10:07
I would like to have the original 7BIT plate because I want to make a caseless Phantom that uses every switch and is 100% secure.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 24 July 2014, 13:12:11
I would like to have the original 7BIT plate because I want to make a caseless Phantom that uses every switch.

You can still do that with the new 7BIT plate. As long as you are using a PCB, and not direct wiring everything, you are still good to use the original 7BIT F-row layout.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: awong on Thu, 24 July 2014, 13:13:24
I would like to have the original 7BIT plate because I want to make a caseless Phantom that uses every switch.

You can still do that with the new 7BIT plate. As long as you are using a PCB, and not direct wiring everything, you are still good to use the original 7BIT F-row layout.
I am painting plate and I think it look ugly this way.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 24 July 2014, 13:14:36
I would like to have the original 7BIT plate because I want to make a caseless Phantom that uses every switch.

You can still do that with the new 7BIT plate. As long as you are using a PCB, and not direct wiring everything, you are still good to use the original 7BIT F-row layout.
I am painting plate and I think it look ugly this way.

Okay then. :)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: telnet on Thu, 24 July 2014, 16:29:28
Just wanted to clarify something on shipping. 
Would Canada be considered international?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: strict on Thu, 24 July 2014, 17:04:42
Just wanted to clarify something on shipping. 
Would Canada be considered international?

Yep, anything not in the 48 contiguous United States is considered international for shipping purposes.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: aicrono on Thu, 24 July 2014, 18:03:35
I would like to have the original 7BIT plate because I want to make a caseless Phantom that uses every switch.

You can still do that with the new 7BIT plate. As long as you are using a PCB, and not direct wiring everything, you are still good to use the original 7BIT F-row layout.
I am painting plate and I think it look ugly this way.

Awww... got excited too soon.  :(
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: awong on Thu, 24 July 2014, 19:45:31
How many 1.5x and 1.75x and 1.25x DSA keycap do I buy from SP for 7BIT layout?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: echo0 on Tue, 29 July 2014, 07:34:07
Ordered two ANSI 150 plates.  Thanks...
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: strict on Mon, 04 August 2014, 12:54:14
Less than two weeks to go. We only need 10 more plates for this to be able to go to production.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: telnet on Mon, 11 August 2014, 11:59:32
We need a few more buyers to get this GB rolling. 
I really want to get my 7bit plate.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: Blackehart on Mon, 11 August 2014, 13:10:55
I apologize if i missed it but are these plates switch moddable?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: strict on Mon, 11 August 2014, 13:45:44
I apologize if i missed it but are these plates switch moddable?

Yep, all plates allow for easy switch top removal :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: Blackehart on Mon, 11 August 2014, 14:58:34
One last thing...

 Please note that these plates will not fit on stock keyboards like Filco's, Ducky's, KUL's, etc.
However, the plates will fit into many popular TKL cases from Filco, Ducky, CoolerMaster, and others.

I is konfoozed.

I'm looking to get a tkl on the cheap to practice and learn soldering/desoldering, but you have filco and ducky on both the yes and the no sections...

Could I perhaps pester you for a working model? Like say, does shine 2 work?

Also, in for 1!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 11 August 2014, 15:15:54
One last thing...

 Please note that these plates will not fit on stock keyboards like Filco's, Ducky's, KUL's, etc.
However, the plates will fit into many popular TKL cases from Filco, Ducky, CoolerMaster, and others.

I is konfoozed.

I'm looking to get a tkl on the cheap to practice and learn soldering/desoldering, but you have filco and ducky on both the yes and the no sections...

Could I perhaps pester you for a working model? Like say, does shine 2 work?

Also, in for 1!


See this image...

(http://i.imgur.com/lHJyyDA.jpg)
(Photo credit: danielucf)


That green thing on the right, just above the arrow cluster, is the controller. These plates don't have the cutout for that controller, so you can't use these Phantom plates with a Filco PCB or QFR PCB.



(http://i.imgur.com/6Nd58cG.png)


However, you CAN use the Phantom PCB with this plate in a Filco TKL or QFR case.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: Blackehart on Mon, 11 August 2014, 18:41:22
snipped for brevity


AH! so I still require a phantom pcb, ok.

Thanks for the help!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: strict on Sat, 16 August 2014, 22:19:06
30 plates ordered currently so we're getting very close to reaching MOQ! My hope is to be able to close the order form tomorrow evening so get your orders submitted now.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: aicrono on Sun, 17 August 2014, 10:49:20
In the event that the MOQ is not met today, do you plan on extending the dead line?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: strict on Sun, 17 August 2014, 11:17:58
In the event that the MOQ is not met today, do you plan on extending the dead line?

I don't mind extending the deadline for another couple days or a week. 6 plates is still a ways to go and too many for me to absorb.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: aicrono on Sun, 17 August 2014, 12:17:21
In the event that the MOQ is not met today, do you plan on extending the dead line?

I don't mind extending the deadline for another couple days or a week. 6 plates is still a ways to go and too many for me to absorb.

Lets hope those last minute buyers show. :)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 17 August 2014, 12:37:23
the 7bit plate could make a good lubing station.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: telnet on Sun, 17 August 2014, 23:25:54
In the event that the MOQ is not met today, do you plan on extending the dead line?

I don't mind extending the deadline for another couple days or a week. 6 plates is still a ways to go and too many for me to absorb.

Please extend the deadline.  I really want to build a 7bit board and this is my only source to get a plate.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: strict on Tue, 19 August 2014, 07:33:03
Extending the deadline just until Aug 31. If we cant get 6 more plate orders by that point then I'm going to have to close this out :(
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: nathairtras on Tue, 19 August 2014, 14:48:10
I shouldn't be spending money right now, but sorely tempted to get a 7bit plate even though I don't have a phantom PCB.  Will have to sleep on it.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: AKmalamute on Tue, 19 August 2014, 16:57:36
I shouldn't be spending money right now, but sorely tempted to get a 7bit plate even though I don't have a phantom PCB.  Will have to sleep on it.
A further thought: MK carries the boards, and will for the foreseeable future. So, get the plate during this GB, and in a month or two when your finances level out, get the board for $32 (free CONUS shipping!) and they carry switches too, or use your existing stock, or whatever. You won't need to get it all at once, and really the only time sensitive part is this plate.

I'm in for a 7-bit plate, myself so yes, I'm in here trying to drum up interest so the GB doesn't go flat on me.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: nathairtras on Tue, 19 August 2014, 17:32:39
I shouldn't be spending money right now, but sorely tempted to get a 7bit plate even though I don't have a phantom PCB.  Will have to sleep on it.
A further thought: MK carries the boards, and will for the foreseeable future. So, get the plate during this GB, and in a month or two when your finances level out, get the board for $32 (free CONUS shipping!) and they carry switches too, or use your existing stock, or whatever. You won't need to get it all at once, and really the only time sensitive part is this plate.

I'm in for a 7-bit plate, myself so yes, I'm in here trying to drum up interest so the GB doesn't go flat on me.
...you convinced me.  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: telnet on Tue, 19 August 2014, 19:18:26
I shouldn't be spending money right now, but sorely tempted to get a 7bit plate even though I don't have a phantom PCB.  Will have to sleep on it.
A further thought: MK carries the boards, and will for the foreseeable future. So, get the plate during this GB, and in a month or two when your finances level out, get the board for $32 (free CONUS shipping!) and they carry switches too, or use your existing stock, or whatever. You won't need to get it all at once, and really the only time sensitive part is this plate.

I'm in for a 7-bit plate, myself so yes, I'm in here trying to drum up interest so the GB doesn't go flat on me.

That's pretty much the same reason why I picked up two plates.  I'm only going to build one for now.
Getting two plates also means the overall shipping per plate is cheaper, especially since it's $25 for international shipping.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: strict on Fri, 22 August 2014, 15:28:15
I informed the metal shop to expect an order here in the next few weeks so that they can get some fresh stainless in for us.  :thumb:

We are close enough now that even if we don't make MOQ that I will cover however many are needed to place the order and then try to sell them in the classifieds. Though if its up to me I will probably just get all ANSI 125 ...
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: telnet on Fri, 22 August 2014, 15:55:26
I don't think you will have a hard time selling them.  It's so hard to find a phantom plate.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: AKmalamute on Fri, 22 August 2014, 16:51:02
Though if its up to me I will probably just get all ANSI 125 ...

That's your cue, everybody! Dogpile onto this GB and buy the excellent ANSI150 or exotic 7-bit, before the market gets flooded with mediocrity!

Although, how mediocre is a fully reprogrammable keyboard with keyswitches entirely of your choosing, really?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: aicrono on Fri, 22 August 2014, 20:20:29
I informed the metal shop to expect an order here in the next few weeks so that they can get some fresh stainless in for us.  :thumb:

We are close enough now that even if we don't make MOQ that I will cover however many are needed to place the order and then try to sell them in the classifieds. Though if its up to me I will probably just get all ANSI 125 ...

Excellent news! I was getting worried there for a little bit as I had already bought and received the rest of my Phantom build and all I had left was the plate.


Now I need to decide if I want to build it with the ANSI125 or 7bit plate...
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: retrochick on Sat, 23 August 2014, 19:09:59
This is sweet. Just to double check the ANSI 125 will work with this (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=536), correct?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 23 August 2014, 19:52:11
This is sweet. Just to double check the ANSI 125 will work with this (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=536), correct?

Yes, either of these plates will. That's exactly the PCB they are designed for. :)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: retrochick on Sun, 24 August 2014, 11:51:36
This is sweet. Just to double check the ANSI 125 will work with this (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=536), correct?

Yes, either of these plates will. That's exactly the PCB they are designed for. :)

Awesome. Thank you kind sir!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: retrochick on Sun, 24 August 2014, 11:58:00
Just put in an order for 2 plates, hopefully that will put us closer to the MOQ  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: tchuyev on Mon, 25 August 2014, 08:46:05
Hi, any chance for an ISO layout with 1.25x wide modifiers?
I would order a couple of them if available.
Thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: strict on Mon, 25 August 2014, 09:38:36
Hi, any chance for an ISO layout with 1.25x wide modifiers?
I would order a couple of them if available.
Thanks.

Sorry, only offering the three plates in the OP
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: telnet on Wed, 27 August 2014, 16:12:27
Now that we're at 36 we're going to get our plates right?   :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: TheMoonUnderWater on Wed, 27 August 2014, 16:48:28
Order placed. Tempted to get a second... How do I go about that, pm?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: strict on Wed, 27 August 2014, 17:00:39
Now that we're at 36 we're going to get our plates right?   :thumb:

Yep  :cool:

Order placed. Tempted to get a second... How do I go about that, pm?

If you want to make changes to your order just shoot me a PM and I will take care of it  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: orangeju1ce on Wed, 27 August 2014, 20:32:30
Hello!

I hope i'm not too late for the group buy. School just started and it's been busy..
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: aicrono on Thu, 28 August 2014, 00:19:50
Hello!

I hope i'm not too late for the group buy. School just started and it's been busy..

You are just in time. The last day to order is August 31st so you still have a couple of days. Get in while you can if you haven't already :)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: orangeju1ce on Thu, 28 August 2014, 00:49:29
Hello!

I hope i'm not too late for the group buy. School just started and it's been busy..

You are just in time. The last day to order is August 31st so you still have a couple of days. Get in while you can if you haven't already :)

This is my first group buy on GH. I don't expect I'll be immediately working on a phantom keyboard for a while, but what is the usual time frame for things like this? I want to finish this keyboard by March 2015 since that's when my gf's bday is.

Also, what kind of cases are you guys using for the phantom pcb?  I am ordering the 7BIT layout but i'm not sure where to search for top plates for this design.

I also have another questions about diodes-- http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/1N4148/1N4148FS-ND/458603 the Phantom PCB says they use  the 1N4148 diodes, but on the website they offer the 1N4148FS-ND and the regular one. What is the difference between these two? Does one function different from the other? Is one like the generic of the other kind of diode? I want to know for future reference in buying diodes. 

Thanks for reading!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: chzel on Thu, 28 August 2014, 08:07:10
The diodes you mention (1N4148FS-ND) are made by Fairchild Semiconductors (FS) ensuring good performance,
but,since diodes in keyboards are used to sth like 0.0000001% of their capacity, feel free to get the generic ones. Just test them for duds!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: AKmalamute on Thu, 28 August 2014, 13:27:53
Also, what kind of cases are you guys using for the phantom pcb?  I am ordering the 7BIT layout but i'm not sure where to search for top plates for this design.

Also getting the 7-bit! No idea!

 Right now I'm using an ANSI150 layout with no case -- just laying the bare PCB on my lap. Works fine. But if I get a case of some form I'll let everybody know where I got it.

There was a page with some code MOZ put together (http://www.moz.twisted-artworx.com/TKLCase/) that would create .dxf files for plates ... I think he had a generic case that assumed you were using plates as created by that software ... but the case assumed the plate went all the way out to the edge of the case and would like flush with every other layer. Not sure how much jury rigging would be needed to make such an acrylic case accept a steel plate of the correct proportions.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: TheMoonUnderWater on Thu, 28 August 2014, 17:26:37
Now that we're at 36 we're going to get our plates right?   :thumb:

Yep  :cool:

Order placed. Tempted to get a second... How do I go about that, pm?

If you want to make changes to your order just shoot me a PM and I will take care of it  :thumb:

Cool. Pm sent, thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: mdf on Fri, 29 August 2014, 16:55:10
Just hit up the form!

Thanks for coordinating this, can't wait, will be my first build.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: echo0 on Sun, 31 August 2014, 09:58:18
PM sent - adding one more plate to the order.

Thanks...   :D
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: strict on Sun, 31 August 2014, 10:41:05
PM sent - adding one more plate to the order.

Thanks...   :D

Got you taken care of  :thumb:

Since we're over MOQ I'm planning to close the order form in a few hours. I will probably start sending invoices either tomorrow or at some point this coming week. Then, once I hear back from the metal shop that our stainless steel is ready, I will submit the order.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: AKmalamute on Thu, 04 September 2014, 01:16:34
Since we're over MOQ I'm planning to close the order form in a few hours.
Looking forward to the invoice.

That I haven't received yet.

Everything OK?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: strict on Thu, 04 September 2014, 07:02:45
Looking forward to the invoice.

That I haven't received yet.

Everything OK?

Invoices have not been sent out yet, hoping to get to that either tonight or tomorrow
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: telnet on Thu, 04 September 2014, 11:53:44
Looking forward to the invoice.

That I haven't received yet.

Everything OK?

Invoices have not been sent out yet, hoping to get to that either tonight or tomorrow

Thanks for the update.  I was worried the invoice might have hit one of my spam filters.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: exfiltrate on Thu, 04 September 2014, 17:28:54
Any chance I can still get in on this?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: strict on Thu, 04 September 2014, 17:47:59
Any chance I can still get in on this?

Shoot me a PM with what plates you want, your paypal email, and your full shipping address. I plan on sending out invoices tonight so you *just* made it in time  ;)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT
Post by: exfiltrate on Thu, 04 September 2014, 18:15:59
Any chance I can still get in on this?

Shoot me a PM with what plates you want, your paypal email, and your full shipping address. I plan on sending out invoices tonight so you *just* made it in time  ;)

Thank you :)

Pm'd
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [INVOICING]
Post by: strict on Thu, 04 September 2014, 19:23:38
All invoices have been sent. If you see any problems with your invoice please get in contact with me BEFORE you pay it and I will correct it as quickly as possible.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [INVOICING]
Post by: FreeCopy on Thu, 04 September 2014, 19:44:13
Received. Looked good. Paid.

Thank you.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [INVOICING]
Post by: aicrono on Thu, 04 September 2014, 20:02:38
Invoiced received and paid for  :thumb:


Now we play the waiting game...
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [INVOICING]
Post by: echo0 on Thu, 04 September 2014, 20:05:22
Invoice received and paid.  Thanks...   :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [INVOICING]
Post by: nathairtras on Thu, 04 September 2014, 21:45:43
Paid.  Now I just need a case that will fit this with all possible switches...  and the money to buy it.  :))
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [INVOICING]
Post by: TBone on Thu, 04 September 2014, 21:57:45
Paid. Time to find that case...
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [INVOICING]
Post by: telnet on Fri, 05 September 2014, 14:57:47
Paid.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [INVOICING]
Post by: TheMoonUnderWater on Fri, 05 September 2014, 15:30:17
I'm all paid up, thanks Strict
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [INVOICING]
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 06 September 2014, 05:13:02
Paid!

Please think of us poor international guys when you make the custom declaration ;)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [INVOICING]
Post by: cmadrid on Sat, 06 September 2014, 07:10:34
Paid
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [INVOICING]
Post by: strict on Sat, 06 September 2014, 07:51:15
Paid!

Please think of us poor international guys when you make the custom declaration ;)

Thanks for bringing this up! International users, please let me know the valuation you would like declared for customs. I have no problem using whatever value works best for you (within reason, ie. not $1)  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [INVOICING]
Post by: exfiltrate on Sat, 06 September 2014, 13:01:31
Just wondering what the ETA for manf/shipping is?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [INVOICING]
Post by: strict on Sat, 06 September 2014, 17:26:10
Just wondering what the ETA for manf/shipping is?

My hope is to have everyone's order shipped by the end of September but this is all dependent on the fabrication shop. Currently we're still waiting for confirmation that our fresh batch of stainless has arrived.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [INVOICING]
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 07 September 2014, 01:23:52
Paid!

Please think of us poor international guys when you make the custom declaration ;)

Thanks for bringing this up! International users, please let me know the valuation you would like declared for customs. I have no problem using whatever value works best for you (within reason, ie. not $1)  :thumb:


Sent you a PM :)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [INVOICING]
Post by: strict on Mon, 08 September 2014, 08:51:32
I will probably send out a PayPal reminder to those users who haven't paid later this evening. Once those folks are taken care of I can submit the final numbers to the metal shop.  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [INVOICING]
Post by: mrklaw on Mon, 08 September 2014, 16:23:28
I've now paid. Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [INVOICING]
Post by: tchuyev on Tue, 09 September 2014, 04:11:42
Paid as well ;D
Hoping there will be another batch with ISO plates too!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [INVOICING]
Post by: strict on Wed, 10 September 2014, 12:19:12
Still waiting on a few invoices to get paid. In the interest of keeping this moving for the other participants I'm going to assume that if you haven't paid by the end of the day on Friday, Sept 12 that you are no longer interested and cancel the invoice. If you need a little more time to pay or you never received an invoice please get in contact with me and I will be happy to work something out with you, but unless I hear otherwise all unpaid orders will be cancelled EOD Friday.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [INVOICING]
Post by: strict on Thu, 11 September 2014, 23:23:42
Final payment reminders have been sent. Any orders still unpaid by this time tomorrow will be cancelled. We still have more than enough paid orders to cover MOQ so I will be submitting final numbers to the fabrication shop this coming Monday.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [INVOICING]
Post by: telnet on Fri, 12 September 2014, 01:25:24
Final payment reminders have been sent. Any orders still unpaid by this time tomorrow will be cancelled. We still have more than enough paid orders to cover MOQ so I will be submitting final numbers to the fabrication shop this coming Monday.

Awesome.  Thanks for moving things along quickly.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [INVOICING]
Post by: strict on Fri, 12 September 2014, 20:28:00
Got a package today from USPS with some supplies for shipping out all the orders  :thumb:

(http://i.imgur.com/Axf6HlO.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [INVOICING]
Post by: henz on Wed, 17 September 2014, 07:30:41
im thinking of ordering 2 plates in order to convert 2 iso boards to ANSI, is there any perticular feel with the plate?Iis this for making your board havier/stiffer etc?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [INVOICING]
Post by: strict on Wed, 17 September 2014, 07:55:21
im thinking of ordering 2 plates in order to convert 2 iso boards to ANSI, is there any perticular feel with the plate?Iis this for making your board havier/stiffer etc?

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but orders have been closed for this round. I've already submitted the final numbers to the metal shop so I am unable to make any changes at this point.

To answer your question, the biggest benefit of these plates is that they have the cutouts to allow for switch top removal so you can swap out stems and springs or apply lube without having to desolder the switches. They will feel noticeably more rigid than an aluminum plate but should feel pretty much the same as the OEM carbon steel plates found on most plate mounted keyboards.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [INVOICING]
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 17 September 2014, 11:00:25
im thinking of ordering 2 plates in order to convert 2 iso boards to ANSI, is there any perticular feel with the plate?Iis this for making your board havier/stiffer etc?

Out of curiosity:

How would you do that? Wouldn't that require a lot of re-wiring on the PCB?

Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [INVOICING]
Post by: henz on Wed, 17 September 2014, 12:06:43
im thinking of ordering 2 plates in order to convert 2 iso boards to ANSI, is there any perticular feel with the plate?Iis this for making your board havier/stiffer etc?

Out of curiosity:

How would you do that? Wouldn't that require a lot of re-wiring on the PCB?

pcb supports ansi too, i would desolder everything, swap the plate and solder everything back together.


edit: woop i totally mixed up the threads, i want the universal. haha
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [INVOICING]
Post by: telnet on Wed, 17 September 2014, 14:31:57
im thinking of ordering 2 plates in order to convert 2 iso boards to ANSI, is there any perticular feel with the plate?Iis this for making your board havier/stiffer etc?

Out of curiosity:

How would you do that? Wouldn't that require a lot of re-wiring on the PCB?

pcb supports ansi too, i would desolder everything, swap the plate and solder everything back together.


edit: woop i totally mixed up the threads, i want the universal. haha

Even if the board did support ANSI, the phantom plate might not line up nicely with your PCB.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [PRE-PRODUCTION]
Post by: henz on Wed, 17 September 2014, 15:02:54
you are right sir, was looking for the universal one, as per my edit. A phantom plate would not work probably.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [PRE-PRODUCTION]
Post by: limitz on Sat, 20 September 2014, 09:42:44
Will there be any extras? I could use a Phantom plate in ANSI.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [PRE-PRODUCTION]
Post by: pimlico on Sat, 20 September 2014, 11:39:56
Can I still buy an ANSI 150?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [PRE-PRODUCTION]
Post by: strict on Sat, 20 September 2014, 17:39:58

Will there be any extras? I could use a Phantom plate in ANSI.

There will possibly be one or two extras for each plate design, but I can't promise that. If there are extras I will make sure to let you know.


Can I still buy an ANSI 150?

Sorry, orders are closed now. I've submitted the final counts for each design to the fabrication shop so I'm not able to make any further changes.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [PRE-PRODUCTION]
Post by: xCoolBeans on Sat, 20 September 2014, 18:40:38
Danm, I missed it, when will the next group buy be for some plates?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [PRE-PRODUCTION]
Post by: limitz on Sat, 20 September 2014, 21:33:25

Will there be any extras? I could use a Phantom plate in ANSI.

There will possibly be one or two extras for each plate design, but I can't promise that. If there are extras I will make sure to let you know.


That would be awesome if you could. I would love the standard Phantom plate in US-ANSI layout. If you could PM me, I would really appreciate that.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [PRE-PRODUCTION]
Post by: awhitedev on Tue, 30 September 2014, 09:44:44
I'd be interested in buying a 7bit plate if there are any extras or if there are plans to start another group buy.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [PRODUCTION]
Post by: strict on Thu, 02 October 2014, 12:02:37
Got the word today that they are ready to start cutting our plates so I should have them in hand very soon  :thumb:

I will more than likely be doing a round 3 of stainless plates (uTKL = r1, phantom = r2), but I'm not sure what it will be yet. I have some ideas for some really unique plates but I'm not sure there will be enough interest to make them viable. I will start an interest check thread for R3 once this round is over and see what people are thinking.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [PRE-PRODUCTION]
Post by: quochung1989 on Fri, 03 October 2014, 07:47:05
Do u have plan for Filco plate?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [PRE-PRODUCTION]
Post by: AKmalamute on Fri, 03 October 2014, 11:08:40
So, next round won't be phantom-specific?

I'm working  (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=63120)with a shop that cuts metal ... and I'm about 80% sure I can match Strict's pay scale...but I'm wanting to sorta get that going so I can be done with the nailbiting part of the GB by November ...

Strict do you mind PM'ing me where you got the .dxfs?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [PRE-PRODUCTION]
Post by: Blackehart on Fri, 03 October 2014, 11:33:38
Total noobsauce question:

Would there be any issues with cutting the plate to allow for a filco/qfr controller?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [PRE-PRODUCTION]
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 03 October 2014, 11:44:55
So, next round won't be phantom-specific?

I'm working with a shop that cuts metal ... and I'm about 80% sure I can match Strict's pay scale...but I'm wanting to sorta get that going so I can be done with the nailbiting part of the GB by November ...

Strict do you mind PM'ing me where you got the .dxfs?

Let me know what you need.


Total noobsauce question:

Would there be any issues with cutting the plate to allow for a filco/qfr controller?


Only in that stainless is a ***** to cut. :(
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [PRE-PRODUCTION]
Post by: Jersern on Wed, 08 October 2014, 00:44:28
Damn missed out! :( I want an ANSI125 so if you have another spare, I'll take it! :) If not, let the waiting for round 3 begin......  :(
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [PRE-PRODUCTION]
Post by: limitz on Wed, 08 October 2014, 10:45:51
For all the people that missed out, MKawa is offering a *TITANIUM* Phantom plate over at geekhackers:

http://www.geekhackers.org/collections/keyboard-accessories/products/80-tkl-titanium-notched-plates

A lot more expensive... but also titanium.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [PRE-PRODUCTION]
Post by: exfiltrate on Wed, 08 October 2014, 20:38:50
For all the people that missed out, MKawa is offering a *TITANIUM* Phantom plate over at geekhackers:

http://www.geekhackers.org/collections/keyboard-accessories/products/80-tkl-titanium-notched-plates

A lot more expensive... but also titanium.

I'm sure that being titanium is sure going to come in handy...
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [PRE-PRODUCTION]
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 09 October 2014, 00:22:41
For all the people that missed out, MKawa is offering a *TITANIUM* Phantom plate over at geekhackers:

http://www.geekhackers.org/collections/keyboard-accessories/products/80-tkl-titanium-notched-plates

A lot more expensive... but also titanium.

wow, $175 for a plate?? :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [PRE-PRODUCTION]
Post by: TheMoonUnderWater on Thu, 09 October 2014, 06:51:01
For all the people that missed out, MKawa is offering a *TITANIUM* Phantom plate over at geekhackers:

http://www.geekhackers.org/collections/keyboard-accessories/products/80-tkl-titanium-notched-plates

A lot more expensive... but also titanium.

wow, $175 for a plate?? :eek:

Quite. Is there additional benefit to titanium over steel?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [PRE-PRODUCTION]
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 09 October 2014, 06:56:07
For all the people that missed out, MKawa is offering a *TITANIUM* Phantom plate over at geekhackers:

http://www.geekhackers.org/collections/keyboard-accessories/products/80-tkl-titanium-notched-plates (http://www.geekhackers.org/collections/keyboard-accessories/products/80-tkl-titanium-notched-plates)

A lot more expensive... but also titanium.

wow, $175 for a plate?? :o

Quite. Is there additional benefit to titanium over steel?

At 5x the cost, only bragging rights.  ??? :))
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [PRE-PRODUCTION]
Post by: limitz on Fri, 10 October 2014, 10:31:39
For all the people that missed out, MKawa is offering a *TITANIUM* Phantom plate over at geekhackers:

http://www.geekhackers.org/collections/keyboard-accessories/products/80-tkl-titanium-notched-plates

A lot more expensive... but also titanium.

wow, $175 for a plate?? :eek:

Quite. Is there additional benefit to titanium over steel?

Different feeling according to many that have tried it.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [PRE-PRODUCTION]
Post by: exfiltrate on Sun, 19 October 2014, 16:02:28
Any update?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [PRE-PRODUCTION]
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 19 October 2014, 16:08:11
For all the people that missed out, MKawa is offering a *TITANIUM* Phantom plate over at geekhackers:

http://www.geekhackers.org/collections/keyboard-accessories/products/80-tkl-titanium-notched-plates

A lot more expensive... but also titanium.

wow, $175 for a plate?? :eek:

Quite. Is there additional benefit to titanium over steel?

Different feeling according to many that have tried it.
Are there that many titanium plates out there?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [PRE-PRODUCTION]
Post by: strict on Sun, 19 October 2014, 16:25:11

Any update?

I'm supposed to hear from my guy at the production shop at the beginning of this week to let me know the order is complete. Since its a small local shop sometimes production can take a little while. I expect I will have all the plates in hand and ready to start packing up sometime this week.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [PRODUCTION]
Post by: strict on Mon, 20 October 2014, 19:52:18
Plates are done, just need to go pick them up later this week. Expect pictures soon  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [PRE-PRODUCTION]
Post by: limitz on Mon, 20 October 2014, 19:59:18
For all the people that missed out, MKawa is offering a *TITANIUM* Phantom plate over at geekhackers:

http://www.geekhackers.org/collections/keyboard-accessories/products/80-tkl-titanium-notched-plates

A lot more expensive... but also titanium.

wow, $175 for a plate?? :eek:

Quite. Is there additional benefit to titanium over steel?

Different feeling according to many that have tried it.
Are there that many titanium plates out there?

I don't think too many. This guy has an example of a 60% Ti case that was from a GB run by Beast:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2d3s7h/titanium_iso_poker_2_stage_12_of_3/
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [PRODUCTION]
Post by: aicrono on Mon, 20 October 2014, 21:29:28
Plates are done, just need to go pick them up later this week. Expect pictures soon  :thumb:

Excited!  :)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [PRODUCTION]
Post by: CAG390 on Mon, 20 October 2014, 23:04:58
Round 3 maybe??? if not, where in the world can I find a base plate?! i have been looking everywhere... if anybody knows where they could be found let me know. Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [PRODUCTION]
Post by: strict on Thu, 23 October 2014, 18:01:04
These came out super nice. I was very happy with the outcome of the plates from R1 and these are even better than those.

(https://imgur.com/lQwPMcy.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [PRODUCTION]
Post by: TBone on Thu, 23 October 2014, 18:47:45
These came out super nice. I was very happy with the outcome of the plates from R1 and these are even better than those.

Show Image
(https://imgur.com/lQwPMcy.jpg)


Oh man!!! They look so good!  :thumb:
Now I just need a metal case for a Phantom Board. Anyone know if TEX TKL works?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [PRODUCTION]
Post by: echo0 on Thu, 23 October 2014, 18:56:15
They look nice.  Thanks for the update.   :thumb:

There is a thread on the TEX case:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=64583.0
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [PRODUCTION]
Post by: Arcoril on Thu, 23 October 2014, 19:56:37
Man, those are looking great! Thanks for putting this together! Really looking forward to the next round too.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [PRODUCTION]
Post by: aicrono on Thu, 23 October 2014, 20:07:20
It's happening!
I can't wait to get the dremel out and ruin my 7-bit plate  :D
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [PRODUCTION]
Post by: Jersern on Fri, 24 October 2014, 04:29:22
Nice! :thumb: Any spare Ansi 125s? :P
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [PRODUCTION]
Post by: exfiltrate on Fri, 24 October 2014, 14:16:16
Awesome, have you shipped any yet?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [PRODUCTION]
Post by: strict on Fri, 24 October 2014, 14:42:08
Awesome, have you shipped any yet?

Not yet, I just picked them up yesterday  :p

I'm going to go over them closely to make sure they are up to standard and then this weekend I'll start getting orders packed up to ship sometime this coming week.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: strict on Sun, 26 October 2014, 19:56:14
I had some time today to get all the shipping envelopes prepared and to carefully inspect all of the plates (while marathoning through episodes of Deadwood :p ).

It looks like there are a few that will need to be recut. Everything I got is usable, but there are some that aren't quite up to the mark of what I want to send out. I'm going to contact the metal shop tomorrow to work something out and will provide updates as I have them.

In the meantime, I'm going to be shipping out the orders that can be fulfilled with the good plates I have on hand. Packages will be sent out with respect to the sequence in which the orders were received. I've got the first dozen orders ready-to-go and will be taking them to work with me tomorrow to send out.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 27 October 2014, 01:52:03
Take your time Strict  :thumb:

Thanks again for running this GB!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: strict on Mon, 27 October 2014, 14:32:55
First round of shipments have gone out. Mostly CONUS orders and 2 internal orders. I should be able to get more out tomorrow or Wednesday.

My guy at the metal shop was out of office today so I'll try again tomorrow.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: strict on Tue, 28 October 2014, 18:51:13
Replacement plates have been cut and I will be going to pick them up tomorrow  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: FreeCopy on Tue, 28 October 2014, 19:07:08
Replacement plates have been cut and I will be going to pick them up tomorrow  :cool:

That seemed like a really quick turn around. Thanks for the updates, strict.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: Ripudio on Tue, 28 October 2014, 19:25:36
I'm not really in the market, but maybe you should sell those extra plates as "seconds" quality plates for the desperate ;)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: strict on Tue, 28 October 2014, 19:32:58

I'm not really in the market, but maybe you should sell those extra plates as "seconds" quality plates for the desperate ;)


They requested the faulty plates be returned or I would definitely unload them as f2's.

I was very appreciative of the quick turnaround in getting replacements cut, it means I can get this huge pile of stainless steel out if my dining room sooner haha!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: TheMoonUnderWater on Tue, 28 October 2014, 21:18:31

I'm not really in the market, but maybe you should sell those extra plates as "seconds" quality plates for the desperate ;)


They requested the faulty plates be returned or I would definitely unload them as f2's.

I was very appreciative of the quick turnaround in getting replacements cut, it means I can get this huge pile of stainless steel out if my dining room sooner haha!

Thanks for running this GB. I can't wait to see the results.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: aicrono on Wed, 29 October 2014, 16:24:33
I got my plates in today. Many thanks to strict for running this GB. I'd take pics but the sun is already starting to come down here so the lighting is bad. Now that I got my last part, I just need to find time to start assembly on my Phantom. Hybrid 7bit/ansi layout here I come.
Title: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: strict on Wed, 29 October 2014, 18:51:20
So I think I may have ****ed up here. My numbers for what I have on hand vs what I should have on hand aren't matching. For the 8 orders that I have listed below, when your order arrives please check that you got the right designs. If what you've received is the wrong design please let me know as soon as possible and I will cover 100% of the costs for correcting your order. Though it is possible that all the orders I've shipped so far are correct and that my numbers are off for some other reason.

Im truly sorry for this potential mixup everyone. I have been racking my brain trying to figure out how this could have happened and the only thing I can come up with is that I got my piles of plates mixed up at some point while packing up envelopes. I truly feel terrible for this and as I said above I will 100% cover all shipping costs in both directions to fix my terribly embarrassing potential slip up.

The good news is that, if I include my own ANSI125 plate, I have enough plates on hand to ship all the currently pending orders. Obviously I would like to keep my plate but you guys are my number one priority so if there's a wrinkle that doesn't get ironed out I have no hesitation shipping this plate.

These are the orders that are potentially affected followed by the plate design and count that you should have gotten. If you're on this list, please verify you get the design(s) you were expecting.

Removed names - All plates have now been accounted for

Again, please accept my sincere apologies for this potential mix up and trust that I will do everything I can to make it right.

While I'm working on ironing the out this issue, I will be continuing to pack up (double and triple checked :-[ ) and ship all the remaining orders.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: aicrono on Wed, 29 October 2014, 19:31:16
You can cross me off that list. I just double checked what I received and it is in fact 2x ANSI125 and 1x 7bit. Hopefully that takes a little bit of the load off of you. :)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: TBone on Wed, 29 October 2014, 19:41:43
Yay you got my order correct! Hope everyone gets what they want too!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: strict on Wed, 29 October 2014, 19:58:30
You can cross me off that list. I just double checked what I received and it is in fact 2x ANSI125 and 1x 7bit. Hopefully that takes a little bit of the load off of you. :)

Thanks for confirming!

Yay you got my order correct! Hope everyone gets what they want too!  :thumb:

Just to double-check, you got your shipment and everything looked good?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: cgbuen on Thu, 30 October 2014, 03:48:03
Just received it today - not the right order. PM incoming.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 30 October 2014, 05:56:46
Sorry to hear about that issue.

I will report back as soon as I get my shipment  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: strict on Thu, 30 October 2014, 06:11:47

Sorry to hear about that issue.

I will report back as soon as I get my shipment  :thumb:

Thanks! I'm pretty confident that both international orders that shipped are right but confirmation will definitely be helpful.

I'm almost positive the issue only affects two CONUS shipments that ordered a single ANSI150 plate that I accidentally sent an ANSI125 plate. One of those has confirmed with me my suspicions so there should only be one more shipment to iron out and my numbers will jive again.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: FreeCopy on Thu, 30 October 2014, 19:57:56
My order for 1x 150 plate is here and correct. Envelope was damaged pretty decent and ripped enough to where the plate almost fell out. haha. Still in good condition and no noticeable damage.

Thank you strict!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: strict on Thu, 30 October 2014, 20:16:27
My order for 1x 150 plate is here and correct. Envelope was damaged pretty decent and ripped enough to where the plate almost fell out. haha. Still in good condition and no noticeable damage.

Thank you strict!

Thanks for the confirmation  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: strict on Thu, 30 October 2014, 22:56:48
Got about 10 more orders packaged up that will go out tomorrow, all triple-checked with my wife's help  :-X
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: cmadrid on Fri, 31 October 2014, 19:33:06
Sweet!  Now I need to get a PCB to go with.. Will these work with any other pcbs, or strictly phantom?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: AKmalamute on Fri, 31 October 2014, 19:38:46
Sweet!  Now I need to get a PCB to go with.. Will these work with any other pcbs, or strictly phantom?
Well, as I'm planning on the 7-bit layout ... I'll let you finish that sentence.

If you're getting an ANSI125, I think other boards like the filco MJ2 or CM-QFR will sit under it except ... they come with plates, right? But there are things like the A.87 and other korean boards, who also I believe try to be generic in their layout so you can swap cases ... which probably means you can swap plates as well.

But the expectation, and the only thing I've ever heard wrt this particular run of plates, was the phantom PCB. (MK carries them for $32 shipped domestically ... which I think is just way-cool).

Edit: It's like CMAdrid says. You could I suppose mangle your plate by making cutouts for the controller, but it won't work stock because the phantom has switches where the QFR has a microcontroller.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: cmadrid on Fri, 31 October 2014, 19:49:17
I thought I read that these plates WONT work with QFR/Filco pcbs with the controller above the arrow cluster.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 31 October 2014, 19:53:36
I thought I read that these plates WONT work with QFR/Filco pcbs with the controller above the arrow cluster.

You would just have to cut out for the controller. But why would you want to use anything other than a phantom??
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: strict on Fri, 31 October 2014, 20:15:56
You would just have to cut out for the controller. But why would you want to use anything other than a phantom??

To clarify, theres a significant amount of cutting that would be required to make a Phantom plate work with a PCB that has a controller on the top. Here is a photo of a uTKL plate on top of a Phantom plate to give you a rough idea.

(https://imgur.com/tN0ggnq.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: cmadrid on Sat, 01 November 2014, 01:31:21
I was just wondering if it would work with something like one of Sprit's pcbs or a GON pcb, or really what all options there are out there aside from just phantom.  Curious :o
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: Jersern on Sat, 01 November 2014, 02:18:11
I'd say it would work... but don't quote me on that  :)

Also, let the hype train for round 3 plates (hopefully phantom compatible) begin!  :p
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: cmadrid on Sat, 01 November 2014, 20:21:10
I'd say it would work... but don't quote me on that  :)

Also, let the hype train for round 3 plates (hopefully phantom compatible) begin!  :p



Quoted! ;)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: Jersern on Sat, 01 November 2014, 21:51:37
I'd say it would work... but don't quote me on that  :)

Also, let the hype train for round 3 plates (hopefully phantom compatible) begin!  :p



Quoted! ;)

Haha :P I could see that one coming . :)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: cmadrid on Sat, 01 November 2014, 23:55:41
 :thumb:

Course!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: Jersern on Sun, 02 November 2014, 00:21:47
:thumb:

Course!

Cheeky  :p

PS.  Someone sell me an ANSI 125 plate please!  ;)  :D
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: EppyKay on Sun, 02 November 2014, 02:06:15
I got my plates in. Two ANSI 125 plates. Thanks again for running this group buy.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: strict on Sun, 02 November 2014, 06:20:18

I got my plates in. Two ANSI 125 plates. Thanks again for running this group buy.

Thanks for the confirmation! 
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: TBone on Tue, 04 November 2014, 01:37:32
Just wanted to say everyone can stop worrying. I got the ANSI 125 plate by mistake. Strict, I PM'd you to iron out the details.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: strict on Tue, 04 November 2014, 06:08:24
Just wanted to say everyone can stop worrying. I got the ANSI 125 plate by mistake. Strict, I PM'd you to iron out the details.

Thanks for confirming, TBone. That means all plates are now accounted for. Im really glad none of the international orders were affected, shipping across borders gets expensive.

Sorry for the mixup everyone!  :'(
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: strict on Tue, 04 November 2014, 07:31:25
Got some more plates shipped out a few minutes ago. All the international orders have shipped out except one and theres only a handful of CONUS orders left. Once the ANSI 125 return plate arrives tomorrow I can get all the remaining orders shipped.

Sometime early next week I plan on listing the F2 plates that the fabrication shop was generous enough to let me keep. If you're looking for a plate and are handy enough to fix minor defects or don't mind a plate with some cosmetic issues keep an eye on the classifieds. There will be at least one of each design here along with some other plates I've had laying around and am tired of looking at. Price will vary depending upon material (alum or SS) and usability grade.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: aicrono on Tue, 04 November 2014, 15:22:29
I got my Phantom built up over the weekend and I was surprised how well the plate held the switches in place. Modding the plate wasn't too bad, but it did take some patience and some tunes playing on my phone to get me through it. I modded my 7bit plate to essentially become an ANSI layout everywhere except for the bottom row, which is just the normal 7bit layout. I need to figure out what cap sizes I need for the bottom row. I did let the dremel slip a couple of times, but most of those blemishes are covered up by my case. All that I have left to do for it is cut up a USB cable to splice it with the stock QFR wire harness to get the detachable cable functionality.

Thanks again for running this group buy strict! I will get a picture of it up sometime this week.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: echo0 on Tue, 04 November 2014, 21:19:01
Received the plates.  I will have one built over the coming weekend.
Thanks...    :D
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: strict on Tue, 04 November 2014, 23:50:46

I got my Phantom built up over the weekend and I was surprised how well the plate held the switches in place. Modding the plate wasn't too bad, but it did take some patience and some tunes playing on my phone to get me through it. I modded my 7bit plate to essentially become an ANSI layout everywhere except for the bottom row, which is just the normal 7bit layout. I need to figure out what cap sizes I need for the bottom row. I did let the dremel slip a couple of times, but most of those blemishes are covered up by my case. All that I have left to do for it is cut up a USB cable to splice it with the stock QFR wire harness to get the detachable cable functionality.

Thanks again for running this group buy strict! I will get a picture of it up sometime this week.

Glad everything worked out! I look forward to seeing your pictures.


Received the plates.  I will have one built over the coming weekend.
Thanks...    :D

Happy to hear it. Would love to see some pics of the final product!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: aicrono on Wed, 05 November 2014, 17:11:27
I didn't have a whole lot of sun light left to snap some pics today, so all I got were these terrible pictures. The keyboard doesn't looks too good right now as the only caps I had laying around was my Miami set and the only 1.5x caps I had were from my Bro set and the |\ from my Miami set.  I will say however, the Bro eyes on my function key in the middle of my bottom row looks amazing where its at and the profile on it is awesome for being able to just slightly move my thumb over and hit it. The case got hit pretty bad on the edges by the dremel, but it was only a practice run and I think with enough prep time on painting it, it wouldn't be noticeable. I'm not even sure how if I even want the extra 5 keys around the arrow cluster.

http://imgur.com/a/eVTtR
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: telnet on Wed, 05 November 2014, 19:02:51
I didn't have a whole lot of sun light left to snap some pics today, so all I got were these terrible pictures. The keyboard doesn't looks too good right now as the only caps I had laying around was my Miami set and the only 1.5x caps I had were from my Bro set and the |\ from my Miami set.  I will say however, the Bro eyes on my function key in the middle of my bottom row looks amazing where its at and the profile on it is awesome for being able to just slightly move my thumb over and hit it. The case got hit pretty bad on the edges by the dremel, but it was only a practice run and I think with enough prep time on painting it, it wouldn't be noticeable. I'm not even sure how if I even want the extra 5 keys around the arrow cluster.

http://imgur.com/a/eVTtR

Did you end up using stabilizers on shift, enter and backspace?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: aicrono on Wed, 05 November 2014, 21:25:44
I didn't have a whole lot of sun light left to snap some pics today, so all I got were these terrible pictures. The keyboard doesn't looks too good right now as the only caps I had laying around was my Miami set and the only 1.5x caps I had were from my Bro set and the |\ from my Miami set.  I will say however, the Bro eyes on my function key in the middle of my bottom row looks amazing where its at and the profile on it is awesome for being able to just slightly move my thumb over and hit it. The case got hit pretty bad on the edges by the dremel, but it was only a practice run and I think with enough prep time on painting it, it wouldn't be noticeable. I'm not even sure how if I even want the extra 5 keys around the arrow cluster.

http://imgur.com/a/eVTtR

Did you end up using stabilizers on shift, enter and backspace?

Yes, I salvaged them along with the case from the QFR. They don't click in like they normally would but they do get snug at a certain point when you install them and they work just fine.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: timsbleung on Wed, 05 November 2014, 22:49:52
Got my ansi126, thanks a lot.

guess I now only have to find a case for my phantom.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPING]
Post by: Jersern on Fri, 07 November 2014, 02:02:07
Anyone wanna sell me their ansi 125 plate???  :)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPED]
Post by: strict on Fri, 07 November 2014, 17:39:36
All orders have now been shipped.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPED]
Post by: echo0 on Sun, 09 November 2014, 14:24:49
Picture of final product - 62g ergo clear, TEX case from MechanicalKeyboards.
Thanks again to strict for this group buy.   ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/8ejWmPR.jpg?1)

Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPED]
Post by: TBone on Sun, 09 November 2014, 15:46:25
Picture of final product - 62g ergo clear, TEX case from MechanicalKeyboards.
Thanks again to strict for this group buy.   ;D

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/8ejWmPR.jpg?1)


The TEX case works with Phantom well?
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPED]
Post by: FreeCopy on Sun, 09 November 2014, 16:56:30
Picture of final product - 62g ergo clear, TEX case from MechanicalKeyboards.
Thanks again to strict for this group buy.   ;D

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/8ejWmPR.jpg?1)


The TEX case works with Phantom well?

Looks like it. Which is good to see because I plan on using one of these cases as well.

Nice board echo0!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPED]
Post by: echo0 on Sun, 09 November 2014, 18:23:02
Picture of final product - 62g ergo clear, TEX case from MechanicalKeyboards.
Thanks again to strict for this group buy.   ;D

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/8ejWmPR.jpg?1)


The TEX case works with Phantom well?

Looks like it. Which is good to see because I plan on using one of these cases as well.

Nice board echo0!

Thanks!
It was a tight fit into TEX case.  When I put the keyboard (plate and pcb with switches soldered) into the bottom case, the plate wobbled a bit when I touched it.  But once the screws are in place to close the case with top cover, everything seemed fine.
In order to make use the mini usb connector come with the TEX case, I used a 5-pin connector header (digi-key part number A100099-ND) and mini usb plug to make a custom adapter cable with 5 thin wires.  Soldering thin wire onto the 5-pin connector header and mini usb plug was not easy for me.
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPED]
Post by: ThreadKiller on Sun, 09 November 2014, 23:55:38
Finished my 7bit build sans case this weekend.

MX grey switches

(http://i.imgur.com/9x44vBq.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPED]
Post by: Arcoril on Wed, 12 November 2014, 02:58:41
Got my ANSI 125 plates in today and they're great! I had planned on priming and painting them, but the bare finish is so nice that I'm thinking of using a bit of metal polish to take off some of the minor surface scuffs and using the plates as-is.

Huge thanks to strict for being such a bro and putting this group buy together! Hope that there's a re-run of the uTKL plates in the future too!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPED]
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 13 November 2014, 12:19:44
Got my plates today:

(http://i.imgur.com/uva5NJj.jpg)

Thank you very much for running this GB Strict  :thumb:

Now I have 4 TKL plates from you. I guess this is enough - maybe if you do fullsize plates next time, I'll order more ;)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPED]
Post by: awhitedev on Fri, 14 November 2014, 07:20:41
Are there any extras? I'd like to buy one if so. PM me please :)
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPED]
Post by: Glod on Sat, 15 November 2014, 15:45:26
forgot to mention i got one of these fine plates in this week

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7510/15611832277_1d027fed19.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pMyHQ2)

great quality, lines up correctly, good job yet again strict these are a real treat to own
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPED]
Post by: Jersern on Sun, 16 November 2014, 01:42:39
Still looking for an ANSI 125 plate! Someone sell me one please! I'll love you forever!  ;)  :-*
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPED]
Post by: TheMoonUnderWater on Tue, 18 November 2014, 16:04:07
Both of mine arrived today. Great quality, thanks Strict!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPED]
Post by: strict on Tue, 25 November 2014, 09:26:05
Glad to see that so far that all the plates are arriving safely and that everyone seems to be happy with what they got. I'm happy to have been able to put this together but really you guys deserve a lot of the credit as well. It wouldn't have been possible without you guys so I just want to say thank you for your participation and patience!

In case you haven't seen it, there are some extras and some F2 plates up for grabs in my classifieds thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58571.0). If you want one you should probably act quick as they are selling fast!
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPED]
Post by: LoganMcW on Mon, 15 December 2014, 19:50:52
Is this group still open? I'm wanting to start a new project to build my own mechanical keyboard specifically a Phantom! Right now i have rounded up most of my parts and currently waiting to order! But although i have found most of the parts i still need to get a Mounting plate
for the Phantom! specifically ANSI 150... That is why i was wondering IS THE GROUP OPEN??? Thanks - <3 Logan.W
Title: Re: [GB] Stainless Steel Phantom Plates - ANSI 125, 150, 7BIT [SHIPPED]
Post by: strict on Mon, 15 December 2014, 20:16:08
Is this group still open? I'm wanting to start a new project to build my own mechanical keyboard specifically a Phantom! Right now i have rounded up most of my parts and currently waiting to order! But although i have found most of the parts i still need to get a Mounting plate
for the Phantom! specifically ANSI 150... That is why i was wondering IS THE GROUP OPEN??? Thanks - <3 Logan.W

Sorry, orders for this group buy are closed. However, If you're looking for an ANSI 150 plate you are in luck, I have a few leftover plates for sale in my classifieds thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58571).