Nice write-up. I considered doing this with the different methods of silencing topre (dental bands vs landing pads vs stock RF 'silenced' sliders). Might still get around to it sometime.
Which dental bands did you use? 3/16th or 1/8th or other?
Thanks for the writeup. Very good pictures too!
And reading your thoughts on the difference that it made, I don't think I'll be doing this to my Topre keyboard any time soon. I like a bit more travel, a bit of resistance and the Thorpe thock!
I dental banded my FC660C and it's quite noticeably better now.
I dental banded my FC660C and it's quite noticeably better now.
Can you post a typing video or sound recording? I am curious to hear dental bands in a FC660C.
M43 users unite :fist bump:
Mainly I just want to hear the audio.
Thanks for the reply, Justintoxicated!
I noticed that my Alphas have reduced travel and reduced tactility, vs. My arrow keys and 6 key cluster still have that tactility at the top (only slightly reduced)
At first I though maybe I didn't set the domes right but that is not the case...was not aware RF 87u had reduced travel.
I wanted to post lube pics but my Nikon is with my brother (and I need a replacement Macro Lense) and so I had to use my old Canon Power Shot...and struggled with it haha.
I used to be 80% against Topre, but now I think this is probably my favorite board. Starting to LOVE the reduced travel and reduced harsh tactility. A shame I just spent several hundred on MX parts and tools for wood cases :(
Well I could send you some 1/8 dental bands if you wanted to try them out and review them on some of those keys. I have already had mine apart twice because I didn't lube the stabs the first time :) I didn't even use 1/2 the bands I ordered from that ebay seller.
Just an FYI, You should have to set any domes, just flip the plate over and put them into the switch housing then line up the PCB with the plate and flip it back over.
Don't the rubberdomes have to be glued back down in place?
Fast forward 3 years....
I ordered some 3/18" Extra Heavy bands from Amazon and here's how big they are...Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Domy4Ku.jpg)
Compared to yours...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Os3YrAch.jpg)
Are you sure that you got 3/16"? Am I sure I got 3/18"?
Please be aware dental banding or O-ring mod on stock slider
permanently affects the rubber dome as it's always pressed in at resting position.
I've done it to my Type Heaven for about 2 years, and when it was opened for cleaning,
dental bands were falling apart, while rubber domes were stiffened and deteriorated (small bubbles) where they contact the bottom part of sliders.
(used for work at a warehouse...plastics turn yellow and tapes get sticky easily
but any environment exposed to air would do this)
After lubing sliders and removing split rubberband,
the keyboard feels like hitting hard rubber.
Without the help of rubber band pushing the initial force, it's harder to touch type yet no real feedback, so I always have to bottom out to make sure it's typed.
(hit em hard and don't feel actuating until bottom out)
Now I bought a realforce 104U Silent (just lubed sliders) for home and
it's what Topre is known for...buttery smooth yet tactile feedback
Don't lose it (and resale value)...at least consider having a backup Topre for comparison
All that may be true, but until Topre comes out with a factory-silenced version of the RealForce RGB (like they should have from the start, IMO), then adding silencing rings/bands is my only option. C'est la vie.
I wouldn't know. I don't have an HHKB.
You can install little washers on the screw stands (on hhkb at least) that add height and reduce the pre-collapse of the domes.Could you explain that or show a picture?
Here's a guide!Very interesting. Thanks for the link. :thumb:
http://m.imgur.com/a/DLuOw
Hrrrmmm... did you caliper the hyper sphere ring...
how thick are the dental bands once put on the slider, the op might need a slightly greater offset than .44 spacers in the photos
Also, before ya'll caliper, make sure to watch an instructional video.. for proper technique / handfeel / placement.
It's not as straight forward as you'd think.