lol
get the 212 evo on sale for $10-20 call it a day..
H60 isn't even quiet... All AIO water coolers are Chirp-ee.. they make a high pitch churrzzzzzzeh sound because they have tiny impellers moving not alot of water.
It's probably loud because its a stock cooler with a **** fan that has to work harder to cool your cpu.lol
get the 212 evo on sale for $10-20 call it a day..
H60 isn't even quiet... All AIO water coolers are Chirp-ee.. they make a high pitch churrzzzzzzeh sound because they have tiny impellers moving not alot of water.
Alright thanks, it does look quiet and that's what I want, I cant stand how loud my pc is right now
It's probably loud because its a stock cooler with a **** fan that has to work harder to cool your cpu.lol
get the 212 evo on sale for $10-20 call it a day..
H60 isn't even quiet... All AIO water coolers are Chirp-ee.. they make a high pitch churrzzzzzzeh sound because they have tiny impellers moving not alot of water.
Alright thanks, it does look quiet and that's what I want, I cant stand how loud my pc is right now
If you don't plan on overclocking much then the H60 should be just fine, even with the ****ty preapplied paste. It's likely not the best choice, but it's good enough for stock speeds at least, if you want to OC I'd recommend to remove the preapplied paste and apply your own.Still doesn't make it worth the cost. A 212+ is more than enough for most and its insanely cheap. Even h100's have been as low as $40-50 in the past.
If you don't plan on overclocking much then the H60 should be just fine, even with the ****ty preapplied paste. It's likely not the best choice, but it's good enough for stock speeds at least, if you want to OC I'd recommend to remove the preapplied paste and apply your own.Still doesn't make it worth the cost. A 212+ is more than enough for most and its insanely cheap. Even h100's have been as low as $40-50 in the past.
Nah ive checked, everything makes noise obviously but the cpu fan is SIGNIFICANTLY louder than everything elseIf you don't plan on overclocking much then the H60 should be just fine, even with the ****ty preapplied paste. It's likely not the best choice, but it's good enough for stock speeds at least, if you want to OC I'd recommend to remove the preapplied paste and apply your own.Still doesn't make it worth the cost. A 212+ is more than enough for most and its insanely cheap. Even h100's have been as low as $40-50 in the past.
212+ has been $7 and free ... can't beat that with h100..Show Image(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/embarrassed2-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862502)
lowest on 212 evo i think is $15
OP.. your CPU fan might not be the ONLY loud element inside your pc..
It could be your PSU fan, or perhaps one of your Case fans..
Oh I'm not saying its the better option. Just that if he really wanted a closed loop that was another option.If you don't plan on overclocking much then the H60 should be just fine, even with the ****ty preapplied paste. It's likely not the best choice, but it's good enough for stock speeds at least, if you want to OC I'd recommend to remove the preapplied paste and apply your own.Still doesn't make it worth the cost. A 212+ is more than enough for most and its insanely cheap. Even h100's have been as low as $40-50 in the past.
212+ has been $7 and free ... can't beat that with h100..Show Image(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/embarrassed2-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862502)
lowest on 212 evo i think is $15
OP.. your CPU fan might not be the ONLY loud element inside your pc..
It could be your PSU fan, or perhaps one of your Case fans..
Nah ive checked, everything makes noise obviously but the cpu fan is SIGNIFICANTLY louder than everything elseIf you don't plan on overclocking much then the H60 should be just fine, even with the ****ty preapplied paste. It's likely not the best choice, but it's good enough for stock speeds at least, if you want to OC I'd recommend to remove the preapplied paste and apply your own.Still doesn't make it worth the cost. A 212+ is more than enough for most and its insanely cheap. Even h100's have been as low as $40-50 in the past.
212+ has been $7 and free ... can't beat that with h100..Show Image(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/embarrassed2-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862502)
lowest on 212 evo i think is $15
OP.. your CPU fan might not be the ONLY loud element inside your pc..
It could be your PSU fan, or perhaps one of your Case fans..
Oh I'm not saying its the better option. Just that if he really wanted a closed loop that was another option.If you don't plan on overclocking much then the H60 should be just fine, even with the ****ty preapplied paste. It's likely not the best choice, but it's good enough for stock speeds at least, if you want to OC I'd recommend to remove the preapplied paste and apply your own.Still doesn't make it worth the cost. A 212+ is more than enough for most and its insanely cheap. Even h100's have been as low as $40-50 in the past.
212+ has been $7 and free ... can't beat that with h100..Show Image(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/embarrassed2-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862502)
lowest on 212 evo i think is $15
OP.. your CPU fan might not be the ONLY loud element inside your pc..
It could be your PSU fan, or perhaps one of your Case fans..
I have the H60 and haven't ever had an issue with it as far as noise. It works well and is fairly quiet.
I have the H60 and haven't ever had an issue with it as far as noise. It works well and is fairly quiet.
I have the H60 and haven't ever had an issue with it as far as noise. It works well and is fairly quiet.
Same, I have an H60 and an H100i and they're both nice units. The Hyper 212 Evo is the best bang for the buck though. I don't care about the fan noise as I have a small fan sitting beside me running constantly
If you're willing to drop H60 money, forget about the H60. It's overpriced and mediocre. The Phanteks TC12DX or Thermalright Macho are both better and quieter than the H60.
My opinion is that you should never buy a CLC like the H60 unless you have one of two reasons: One, you can't fit a tower style heatsink in your case, so small form factor or some crappy cases. Two, you're buying it for aesthetics. Otherwise, at just about every price point (barring crazy sales), there's a better air cooler at a better price.
That and I personally boycott Corsair because I think they're overpriced for the quality and just riding the hype train still.
I have the H60 and haven't ever had an issue with it as far as noise. It works well and is fairly quiet.
Same, I have an H60 and an H100i and they're both nice units. The Hyper 212 Evo is the best bang for the buck though. I don't care about the fan noise as I have a small fan sitting beside me running constantly
I have the H60 and haven't ever had an issue with it as far as noise. It works well and is fairly quiet.
Same, I have an H60 and an H100i and they're both nice units. The Hyper 212 Evo is the best bang for the buck though. I don't care about the fan noise as I have a small fan sitting beside me running constantly
Agreed. The next cooler I plan on buying once I get a new job lined up won't be Corsair though. The Swiftech H220x looks pretty sweet and is expandable :D
I have the H60 and haven't ever had an issue with it as far as noise. It works well and is fairly quiet.
Same, I have an H60 and an H100i and they're both nice units. The Hyper 212 Evo is the best bang for the buck though. I don't care about the fan noise as I have a small fan sitting beside me running constantly
Agreed. The next cooler I plan on buying once I get a new job lined up won't be Corsair though. The Swiftech H220x looks pretty sweet and is expandable :D
Yes the h220x looks really nice! I agree with folks here about the 212+. Noctua has some good cpucoolers to.
I can say the H60 does not make any type of rattle like the original H80/100 did so they seem to of fixed the issue its up to you really I somewhat agree with TP4 in the fact that really these lower end solutions will not be that much better, and most of these are just for people to say its water cooled :/
Up to you anyway bud personally the H60 worked fine for me as I used it for a ITX build as a standard cooler wouldn't work, but its all down to personal opinion.
I can say the H60 does not make any type of rattle like the original H80/100 did so they seem to of fixed the issue its up to you really I somewhat agree with TP4 in the fact that really these lower end solutions will not be that much better, and most of these are just for people to say its water cooled :/
Up to you anyway bud personally the H60 worked fine for me as I used it for a ITX build as a standard cooler wouldn't work, but its all down to personal opinion.
I think I'm going to go with the EVO
I can say the H60 does not make any type of rattle like the original H80/100 did so they seem to of fixed the issue its up to you really I somewhat agree with TP4 in the fact that really these lower end solutions will not be that much better, and most of these are just for people to say its water cooled :/
Up to you anyway bud personally the H60 worked fine for me as I used it for a ITX build as a standard cooler wouldn't work, but its all down to personal opinion.
I think I'm going to go with the EVO
Thats the best bet bud at least if it turn out you don't like it or it does not suit your needs you won't of lost much :) good luck anyway it would be nice to hear a update once it's all done
I can say the H60 does not make any type of rattle like the original H80/100 did so they seem to of fixed the issue its up to you really I somewhat agree with TP4 in the fact that really these lower end solutions will not be that much better, and most of these are just for people to say its water cooled :/
Up to you anyway bud personally the H60 worked fine for me as I used it for a ITX build as a standard cooler wouldn't work, but its all down to personal opinion.
I think I'm going to go with the EVO
Thats the best bet bud at least if it turn out you don't like it or it does not suit your needs you won't of lost much :) good luck anyway it would be nice to hear a update once it's all done
Yeah exactly, if I don't like it oh well.
Since I spend the majority of my time at the computer listening to music on my headphones or playing games with headphones on I don't really care. My cans have nice sound isolation and I usually have them cranked up. Ambient noise means little to me, except when I'm working. Since I work from home and I mentioned I have a fan that runs pretty much non-stop - it doesn't bother me much if at all. I used to require a lot of silence when working, but that was before I had kids. Now a lot of silence bugs me...as if something is missing.
ever since i went with closed loop, i'll never buy another god damn heatsink ever again. i have h60 and h100 for 3 years? 4 years? everything controlled with speed fan, all fans are on like 30% speed.
sure get the EVO, like many said, it is the best bang for buck.
ever since i went with closed loop, i'll never buy another god damn heatsink ever again. i have h60 and h100 for 3 years? 4 years? everything controlled with speed fan, all fans are on like 30% speed.
I have the H60 and haven't ever had an issue with it as far as noise. It works well and is fairly quiet.I've got one too and it's just fine.
i'm pretty sure the only way a closed loop system leaks, is if someone fumbled it about so much they busted a seal or stabbed a hose, pretty much user error. no one is gonna admit they have fat fingers and are about as graceful as a mac truck, this of course leads to something happening.
you're trying to force an opinion to avoid a product on the extreme off chance of theoretical probability that equipment will fail, well eventually everything fails.
No real benefits? If where not talking about temperatures, there are other benefits to AIO watercoolers.
Ram compabillity:
Dosent matter which ram modules you use since the cpu block is not going to interfere with the ram like it does on some big tower coolers
More effecient airflow:
AIO coolers CAN improve airflow since you mount the radiator directly to the case and not in the middle of it. Many cases have limited airflow over the CPU compared to a direct intake.
That being said I have nothing against tower coolers. I just didnt agree that AIO have no benefits :). An example is the brilliant noctua d15. Beats many AIOs, but it is also a gigantic tower cooler.
No real benefits? If where not talking about temperatures, there are other benefits to AIO watercoolers.
Ram compabillity:
Dosent matter which ram modules you use since the cpu block is not going to interfere with the ram like it does on some big tower coolers
More effecient airflow:
AIO coolers CAN improve airflow since you mount the radiator directly to the case and not in the middle of it. Many cases have limited airflow over the CPU compared to a direct intake.
That being said I have nothing against tower coolers. I just didnt agree that AIO have no benefits :). An example is the brilliant noctua d15. Beats many AIOs, but it is also a gigantic tower cooler.
Space... just get a bigger case
Cooling... Overclock cpus do not benefit from upper bound cooling, because they top out @ 4.8 ghz within 60-90C makes no difference where you land on that...
Cooling... Stock cpus can use stock cooling, you're just blowing money...
Longevity... the AIO coolers are bad and will crap out long before your CPU does...
More efficient?... the biggest aio coolers have only a slightly lower upper bound temperature than the large 120mm towers which cost 1/5th the price..
The reason... DELID....
If you don't Delid your CPU, you're doing something wrong... it is VITAL on all modern haswell and Ivybridge.
If you have a COMPELLING REASON to use a smaller case, "out side of, my girlfriend thinks it looks cute"... then, perhaps yes, AIO is the way to go..
Smaller Case = BAD 99% of the time.. due to cabling, and heat.. even in this scenario, if the Tower FITs, the reliability factor still means you should use a tower.
Space... just get a bigger case
Cooling... Overclock cpus do not benefit from upper bound cooling, because they top out @ 4.8 ghz within 60-90C makes no difference where you land on that...
Cooling... Stock cpus can use stock cooling, you're just blowing money...
Longevity... the AIO coolers are bad and will crap out long before your CPU does...
More efficient?... the biggest aio coolers have only a slightly lower upper bound temperature than the large 120mm towers which cost 1/5th the price..
The reason... DELID....
If you don't Delid your CPU, you're doing something wrong... it is VITAL on all modern haswell and Ivybridge.
If you have a COMPELLING REASON to use a smaller case, "out side of, my girlfriend thinks it looks cute"... then, perhaps yes, AIO is the way to go..
Smaller Case = BAD 99% of the time.. due to cabling, and heat.. even in this scenario, if the Tower FITs, the reliability factor still means you should use a tower.
I have a CMstorm hx50 (with a 212 heatsink of course) case and it's huge. Gets great cooling though. I am thinking of getting a fan controller so I can turn them off, or getting slower case fans: I fire up P95 and it still is barely above ambient. It's remarkable, really.
Is Yate Loon a good manufacturer? I got a few of them out of some UPS's someone was throwing out, but they didn't move enough air for my needs so now they are in a box. (since my wants in a fan at the time were related to getting a hovercraft off the ground with as much weight as possible, I ended up with a pair of 5" nidecs 12V & ~35W out of a server. They are frightening)
Is Yate Loon a good manufacturer? I got a few of them out of some UPS's someone was throwing out, but they didn't move enough air for my needs so now they are in a box. (since my wants in a fan at the time were related to getting a hovercraft off the ground with as much weight as possible, I ended up with a pair of 5" nidecs 12V & ~35W out of a server. They are frightening)I use the yate loon high speed ones and connect them to a fan controller at the lowest settings. They seem sufficient enough and I liked them because of their cost compared to other brands and they didn't have leds (which is a plus for me).
Is Yate Loon a good manufacturer? I got a few of them out of some UPS's someone was throwing out, but they didn't move enough air for my needs so now they are in a box. (since my wants in a fan at the time were related to getting a hovercraft off the ground with as much weight as possible, I ended up with a pair of 5" nidecs 12V & ~35W out of a server. They are frightening)I use the yate loon high speed ones and connect them to a fan controller at the lowest settings. They seem sufficient enough and I liked them because of their cost compared to other brands and they didn't have leds (which is a plus for me).
as for the incompatible ram thing I can see people trying to argue that...I have a frio and I can't use my closest ram slot unless I use low profile ram. But I'm using 2x 8gb sticks now so it's not like i need more ram. But I would still prefer air over aio coolers even with that downside (of my cooler).
do you guys use speed fan? with it, fans are inaudible and only kick on when i'm at full load doing crunching, otherwise it's speedstep'd down a lot.I'd rather just adjust it myself if I need to. My gpu fan is on auto usually though. And "inaudible" has way too many factors. Headphones on/off(even type of headphones), position/distance from computer, sensitivity of person's ears, etc. I think it's more you just don't notice it than it being "inaudible".
do you guys use speed fan? with it, fans are inaudible and only kick on when i'm at full load doing crunching, otherwise it's speedstep'd down a lot.I'd rather just adjust it myself if I need to. My gpu fan is on auto usually though. And "inaudible" has way too many factors. Headphones on/off(even type of headphones), position/distance from computer, sensitivity of person's ears, etc. I think it's more you just don't notice it than it being "inaudible".
if ur gonna buy a fan.. get the gentle typhoon... since u only need 1.. it's not so bad in terms of cost.I can only find some on ebay. It seems no where else selling those fans.
if ur gonna buy a fan.. get the gentle typhoon... since u only need 1.. it's not so bad in terms of cost.I can only find some on ebay. It seems no where else selling those fans.
if ur gonna buy a fan.. get the gentle typhoon... since u only need 1.. it's not so bad in terms of cost.
I have been looking for used one for the past years, but seems like they are just too good and no one willing to sell them :))
that's right, that's why I have corsair so fans for my pc.
they are fine, but I want something better :-X
The KEY thing to Cooling is PRESSURE.. cfm rating is not as important as the amount of pressure..
because pressure is ultimately what will move warm air.. CFM rating means nothing.. manufacturers can literally put anything they want on the box..
that's right, that's why I have corsair so fans for my pc.
they are fine, but I want something better :-X
I am looking for two 12cm fans with led blue or white. Any recommendation?
http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/cooling/liquid/40870-swiftech-h220-x-open-loop-240mm-cpu-cooler-reviewShow Image(http://www.hitechlegion.com/images/cooling/swiftech_h220x/b2.jpg)
Definitely picking up one of these when I upgrade my PC.
http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/cooling/liquid/40870-swiftech-h220-x-open-loop-240mm-cpu-cooler-reviewShow Image(http://www.hitechlegion.com/images/cooling/swiftech_h220x/b2.jpg)
Definitely picking up one of these when I upgrade my PC.
I'd rather just get the noctua, much quieter by the looks of it.
My wanting the H220x is personal preference really and it seems like a good performer even if its a bit louder.
My wanting the H220x is personal preference really and it seems like a good performer even if its a bit louder.
I don't know if I would consider 10db to be a "bit" louder. Iirc a 10db difference is said to be twice as loud. But as you said its personal preference and I'm not trying to persuade you in your choice.