4. The PCB and stems are all made in Japan, making sure the build quality of the keyboard is good. But still, it's a new product, we need time to see if it is actually solid.
Thanks for that! A lot of people been waiting for a real review.
As for your cons, and ABS keycaps is unlikely to be a problem - I imagine most people would change the keycaps almost as soon as they got the keyboard. That's why we're buying a Novatouch instead of a RealForce, right?
I have also heard rumours of a 55g version - apparently CM wanted to see how well the 45g version would be released first, and if it was good then to produce the 55g version. Which is a little sad, as it would be a 55g Novatouch that I would most like.
The price is a bit of a surprise. Most people estimated between $150 and $200, hoping that it would be towards the lower end of the scale. But being nearly double the bottom end of that scale might be a deterrent for some people.
That sucks big time about the rubber coating :mad:
Do you happen to know if they are going to be making a grey case version?
Any info to report about the release date?
The "made in Japan" bit probably adds to the price.
If the whole things were made in China or Taiwan it would probably be a bit cheaper.
That sucks big time about the rubber coating :mad:
Do you happen to know if they are going to be making a grey case version?
The retail version will be UV coating. Apparently CM listened to our QQs lol.
The "made in Japan" bit probably adds to the price.
If the whole things were made in China or Taiwan it would probably be a bit cheaper.
The label of the keyboard says MIC. I guess they produce PCB and switches in Japan, Case keycaps etc in China and assemble it in China.
That sucks big time about the rubber coating :mad:
Do you happen to know if they are going to be making a grey case version?
The retail version will be UV coating. Apparently CM listened to our QQs lol.
That sucks big time about the rubber coating :mad:
Do you happen to know if they are going to be making a grey case version?
The retail version will be UV coating. Apparently CM listened to our QQs lol.
Have you heard anything about them making a grey case version?
I saw this picture on DT, but i'm not sure if this just looks grey because of the lighting.Show Image(http://i59.tinypic.com/11s0e80.jpg)
The insider's POV!!
Thank you for the review. Interesting stabilizers
The insider's POV!!
Thank you for the review. Interesting stabilizers
Much appreciated, but I'm not insider actually. :p
CMStorm held an activity and rewarded me with this for coming up with its Chinese name.
The insider's POV!!
Thank you for the review. Interesting stabilizers
Much appreciated, but I'm not insider actually. :p
CMStorm held an activity and rewarded me with this for coming up with its Chinese name.
At $140-$170 this was tempting; at $200+ um no...
For someone who is not a keycap zombie (blasphemy, etc.) this doesn't offer me an experience that I don't already get from my Type Heaven/660C.
CMStorm held an activity and rewarded me with this for coming up with its Chinese name.
I'm curious about those stabilizers, there are no stems? How do they work?The stabilizers are attached to the stems, which means when you push a stabilizer down, the stem will also go down.
CMStorm held an activity and rewarded me with this for coming up with its Chinese name.
What's the Chinese name?
re: key weights, i fondled this keyboard pretty inappropriately at keycon and my first impression was that it was much closer to 55g than 45g. i use my 55g 10AE day in and out and the key weights just didn't feel that different from my daily. i don't know if this is because the new slider tooling is particulately precise or because it's a solid mat or what, but i am a 55g stalwart and i loved the feel of the board.
The stabilizers are attached to the stems, which means when you push a stabilizer down, the stem will also go down.
It would be so cool if the PCB was able to fit into this case (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=281). Unfortunately the layout of the PCB looks different from qfr/filco :(
:'(It would be so cool if the PCB was able to fit into this case (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=281). Unfortunately the layout of the PCB looks different from qfr/filco :(
Your feeling is true. The PCB can't fit into any known custom cases. :eek:
re: key weights, i fondled this keyboard pretty inappropriately at keycon and my first impression was that it was much closer to 55g than 45g. i use my 55g 10AE day in and out and the key weights just didn't feel that different from my daily. i don't know if this is because the new slider tooling is particulately precise or because it's a solid mat or what, but i am a 55g stalwart and i loved the feel of the board.Good to know. Thanks for that piece of info. I own neither but preferred 55 when I tried them side by side.
I think CM is making a big mistake by pricing it so high... why would general consumer spend that much for a keyboard when they can just grab something like Quickfire for 100 bucks? If they are aiming to sell these towards crowd like us it will be fine but if this is their "attempt" to introduce Topre switch to the general cosumers, I think they are taking a wrong turn... but then again, what do I know about marketing and selling products? I guess only time will tell. By the way thanks for you great review!
duzeyao, did your buddy Zhao the Assman "assemble" those keysets, or did he actually make the keys himself? Those keys are absolutely gorgeous, and I'd love to know where to get them if they're sold somewhere.
This is a premium product and not aimed towards the general consumer. Think of it as the high end Swiss watch of keyboards. The Cherry keycaps freaks that also like Topre will snap this up.
I will make one of these fit into an aluminum case. I will not rest.
Oh dear lord I can't wait to get my hands on one of these. Topre and SA profile keycaps? Hell yes.
Was thinking about waiting for the 55g but wtf: I'll bite. even though the lack of leds is a real head-scratcher.
duzeyao, xie xie!!
I can't seem to load any pictures, does anyone know why?
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Was thinking about waiting for the 55g but wtf: I'll bite. even though the lack of leds is a real head-scratcher.
duzeyao, xie xie!!
CMStorm held an activity and rewarded me with this for coming up with its Chinese name.
What's the Chinese name?
紫星, The Purple Star.
CMStorm held an activity and rewarded me with this for coming up with its Chinese name.
What's the Chinese name?
紫星, The Purple Star.
I actually like that name better that Novatouch!
I had the chance to try the Novatouch at Keycon. Like mkawa, I thought it felt like 55g. But for some reason, I have this nagging feeling that someone told me it was 45g. Regardless, I think if I were to get a Topre keyboard, this would be on the short list of boards I'd get. I was pretty impressed by the board and I really like the MX compatible stems.
And thank you for posting pictures and sharing your review :D.
If the Novatouch feels like 55g - what will the 55g version feel like - 60g? :D
Was thinking about waiting for the 55g but wtf: I'll bite. even though the lack of leds is a real head-scratcher.
duzeyao, xie xie!!
to clarify, CM.Nurumu said definitively that the initial novatouch will be 45g, and will be very close to the one we fondled at keycon.CMStorm held an activity and rewarded me with this for coming up with its Chinese name.
What's the Chinese name?
紫星, The Purple Star.
I actually like that name better that Novatouch!
I had the chance to try the Novatouch at Keycon. Like mkawa, I thought it felt like 55g. But for some reason, I have this nagging feeling that someone told me it was 45g. Regardless, I think if I were to get a Topre keyboard, this would be on the short list of boards I'd get. I was pretty impressed by the board and I really like the MX compatible stems.
And thank you for posting pictures and sharing your review :D.
He bought white PBT blank keycaps (of Cherry profile) from a Chinese factory and dyed them into various of colors. It is sold in Taobao for around 45¥. I can give you the Taobao link if you want.
to clarify, CM.Nurumu said definitively that the initial novatouch will be 45g, and will be very close to the one we fondled at keycon.
I do have a question that I hope someone can answer - while I understand you can put O-Rings on this board - with the new switch design can you still silence it on the upstroke?Since the o ring is installed on the outside of the slider, yes the mod would still work. The change in slider design seems to mostly, if not all, be internal to the cylinder.
I do have a question that I hope someone can answer - while I understand you can put O-Rings on this board - with the new switch design can you still silence it on the upstroke?Since the o ring is installed on the outside of the slider, yes the mod would still work. The change in slider design seems to mostly, if not all, be internal to the cylinder.
Thanks for the review. I'm curious.. Can I take the stabilisers from the Novatouch and install them in a RF, or are they totally different?I'll try and find the link, but I believe Ripster confirmed that the stabilizers are interchangeable between a RF and Novatouch.
http://reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2c1z7q/novatouch_stabilizers_are_also_interchangeable/ (http://reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2c1z7q/novatouch_stabilizers_are_also_interchangeable/)Thanks for the review. I'm curious.. Can I take the stabilisers from the Novatouch and install them in a RF, or are they totally different?I'll try and find the link, but I believe Ripster confirmed that the stabilizers are interchangeable between a RF and Novatouch.
Thanks for the review. I'm curious.. Can I take the stabilisers from the Novatouch and install them in a RF, or are they totally different?
Nice review, great pics.Mine came with only one (1) bag of O-rings, and they were two short of a complete set unless you are not supposed to install O-rings on keycaps that have more than one stem. Does anyone here have an answer to this? Should O-rings be installed only on the center stem in a keycap that has three stems?
Funny that it comes with two sets of o-rings. They could have cut that crap out as well as gone easier on the packaging and made it a bit cheaper.
Update: The keycap on the "O" key on my Novatouch is so loose that it pops off while I am typing, and it falls off when the keyboard is inverted. To test whether the problem was in the keycap or the switch stem on the keyboard, I reversed the "I" and "O" keycaps. Now it is the "I" keycap that pops off while I am typing and falls off when the keyboard is inverted. Therefore, it appears that the problem resides in the switch stem on the Novatouch. Of course, there are workarounds for such problems, such as putting some tape or plastic wrap in the keycap. Nevertheless, CM ought to take a look at this issue. It might just be a matter of tightening up the tolerances on their quality control procedures.
Update: The keycap on the "O" key on my Novatouch is so loose that it pops off while I am typing, and it falls off when the keyboard is inverted. To test whether the problem was in the keycap or the switch stem on the keyboard, I reversed the "I" and "O" keycaps. Now it is the "I" keycap that pops off while I am typing and falls off when the keyboard is inverted. Therefore, it appears that the problem resides in the switch stem on the Novatouch. Of course, there are workarounds for such problems, such as putting some tape or plastic wrap in the keycap. Nevertheless, CM ought to take a look at this issue. It might just be a matter of tightening up the tolerances on their quality control procedures.
This is the sort of valuable feedback that I imagine CM would welcome.
Have you informed them directly, even if only by PMing Carter?
He bought white PBT blank keycaps (of Cherry profile) from a Chinese factory and dyed them into various of colors. It is sold in Taobao for around 45¥. I can give you the Taobao link if you want.
Yes, I would like the link please.
:( :-X :'( :mad: but not :blank: from this great concept of a topre board.It would be so cool if the PCB was able to fit into this case (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=281). Unfortunately the layout of the PCB looks different from qfr/filco :(
Your feeling is true. The PCB can't fit into any known custom cases. :eek:
Nope! Unreasonably high.This is a premium product and not aimed towards the general consumer. Think of it as the high end Swiss watch of keyboards. The Cherry keycaps freaks that also like Topre will snap this up.
If this was a swiss watch look to be paying anywhere around $2100 to $21000 (on average).
This keyboard would be great in a brand new aluminum case (altogether) worth around $800.00USD 8) .
...even though the lack of leds is a real head-scratcher...Can't agree more :rolleyes:
Given that this case is aimed to please numerous Cherry MX key-swappers, who are quite often can modify their boards a bit further and also swap entire case, there is I think a fairly well founded speculation on my part that there will be an aluminum case designed just tor this board available in a future. A least I hope so. :)I will make one of these fit into an aluminum case. I will not rest.
I hope someone does. That way I can know what kind to get :)
Anyone tried both the Novatouch and HHKB?
Want to compare them both in detail before I decide which one I want to buy.
Anyone tried both the Novatouch and HHKB?
Want to compare them both in detail before I decide which one I want to buy.
They do feel different, the Novatouch bottoms out much harder, but when comparing these keyboards, the layout is going to be much more significant than minor differences in the key feel.
i heard someone told me that the keycaps of novatouch is PBT but it pretty thin, can you take a shot of the keycaps, i don't think that pbt can't be thin :D