I just picked up the KUL ES-87 with MX clears. A solid keyboard. Very well built. I'm still getting used to the MX clears which have made my fingers feel more tired after several days of heavy MMO use. I'm thinking I should have opted for MX reds instead.
I just picked up the KUL ES-87 with MX clears. A solid keyboard. Very well built. I'm still getting used to the MX clears which have made my fingers feel more tired after several days of heavy MMO use. I'm thinking I should have opted for MX reds instead.
What type of keyboard were you using previously to play the same game(s)?
I just purchased the KUL with mx reds yesterday. Can't wait to get it. :-)
I just purchased the KUL with mx reds yesterday. Can't wait to get it. :-)
I just picked up the KUL ES-87 with MX clears. A solid keyboard. Very well built. I'm still getting used to the MX clears which have made my fingers feel more tired after several days of heavy MMO use. I'm thinking I should have opted for MX reds instead.
I just picked up the KUL ES-87 with MX clears. A solid keyboard. Very well built. I'm still getting used to the MX clears which have made my fingers feel more tired after several days of heavy MMO use. I'm thinking I should have opted for MX reds instead.
Even MX Blacks feel lighter than Clears :D
Bleh. Contacted KUL and they won't have any Blues until September. Why don't any of these manufacturers want my money? :(
Bleh. Contacted KUL and they won't have any Blues until September. Why don't any of these manufacturers want my money? :(
They want your money. Cherry can't produce switches fast enough.
Bleh. Contacted KUL and they won't have any Blues until September. Why don't any of these manufacturers want my money? :(
They want your money. Cherry can't produce switches fast enough.
Bleh. Contacted KUL and they won't have any Blues until September. Why don't any of these manufacturers want my money? :(
They want your money. Cherry can't produce switches fast enough.
Is it "Cherry can't produce switches fast enough", or "Cherry's Chinese contractors can't produce switches fast enough because they are also busy producing for Kailh and others?"
I just purchased the KUL with mx reds yesterday. Can't wait to get it. :-)
Please let us know what you think, even with just a mini review :)
I just purchased the KUL with mx reds yesterday. Can't wait to get it. :-)
Please let us know what you think, even with just a mini review :)
I got the keyboard today. My initial impressions are very good. I'm getting the same feeling as I did with my first mechanical keyboard, since I've got it I've been on type racer and enjoying the feeling of typing. I can't believe the amount of resistance the hinges have for the fold out feet. It's a good thing because it doesn't seem like an after-thought, they're very solid, along with the grippiness on my desk.
I do like the overall aesthetics of the board. The capslock, scroll lock, and power mode LED's look very nice through the keycap windows. I also personally love the diamond replacing the super (Windows) key, agnostic keyboards ftw.
For the negative:
The plastic used for the case feels a bit cheap, maybe it's the finish I'm not too sure. If I'm wrong in this observation let me know.
Most of the keycaps have this little mark at the top, seems like something happened in manufacturing, it's not a bother to me but it's noteworthy.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/109939032/keycap%20mark.png) (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/109939032/keycap%20mark.png)
For some reason I can't but spoiler tags around that image. :-[
But hey, if you have any questions that doesn't require me pulling the board apart, feel free to ask or PM.
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I just purchased the KUL with mx reds yesterday. Can't wait to get it. :-)
Please let us know what you think, even with just a mini review :)
I got the keyboard today. My initial impressions are very good. I'm getting the same feeling as I did with my first mechanical keyboard, since I've got it I've been on type racer and enjoying the feeling of typing. I can't believe the amount of resistance the hinges have for the fold out feet. It's a good thing because it doesn't seem like an after-thought, they're very solid, along with the grippiness on my desk.
I do like the overall aesthetics of the board. The capslock, scroll lock, and power mode LED's look very nice through the keycap windows. I also personally love the diamond replacing the super (Windows) key, agnostic keyboards ftw.
For the negative:
The plastic used for the case feels a bit cheap, maybe it's the finish I'm not too sure. If I'm wrong in this observation let me know.Show Image(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/109939032/keycap%20mark.png)
I just purchased the KUL with mx reds yesterday. Can't wait to get it. :-)
Please let us know what you think, even with just a mini review :)
I got the keyboard today. My initial impressions are very good. I'm getting the same feeling as I did with my first mechanical keyboard, since I've got it I've been on type racer and enjoying the feeling of typing. I can't believe the amount of resistance the hinges have for the fold out feet. It's a good thing because it doesn't seem like an after-thought, they're very solid, along with the grippiness on my desk.
I do like the overall aesthetics of the board. The capslock, scroll lock, and power mode LED's look very nice through the keycap windows. I also personally love the diamond replacing the super (Windows) key, agnostic keyboards ftw.
For the negative:
The plastic used for the case feels a bit cheap, maybe it's the finish I'm not too sure. If I'm wrong in this observation let me know.
Most of the keycaps have this little mark at the top, seems like something happened in manufacturing, it's not a bother to me but it's noteworthy.Show Image(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/109939032/keycap%20mark.png)
For some reason I can't but spoiler tags around that image. :-[
But hey, if you have any questions that doesn't require me pulling the board apart, feel free to ask or PM.
I just purchased the KUL with mx reds yesterday. Can't wait to get it. :-)
Please let us know what you think, even with just a mini review :)
I got the keyboard today. My initial impressions are very good. I'm getting the same feeling as I did with my first mechanical keyboard, since I've got it I've been on type racer and enjoying the feeling of typing. I can't believe the amount of resistance the hinges have for the fold out feet. It's a good thing because it doesn't seem like an after-thought, they're very solid, along with the grippiness on my desk.
I do like the overall aesthetics of the board. The capslock, scroll lock, and power mode LED's look very nice through the keycap windows. I also personally love the diamond replacing the super (Windows) key, agnostic keyboards ftw.
For the negative:
The plastic used for the case feels a bit cheap, maybe it's the finish I'm not too sure. If I'm wrong in this observation let me know.
Most of the keycaps have this little mark at the top, seems like something happened in manufacturing, it's not a bother to me but it's noteworthy.Show Image(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/109939032/keycap%20mark.png)
For some reason I can't but spoiler tags around that image. :-[
But hey, if you have any questions that doesn't require me pulling the board apart, feel free to ask or PM.
I don't know what you mean by 'plastic used for the case feels a bit cheap'. I find the case to be quite sturdy and well constructed.
B) I'm not loving the clears. Coming from MX Blues they seem too heavy for me after a while. I'll try them some
more, but at least so far they seem to get tiring after a while.
If the KUL-87 was available with MX Blue I'd probably have been happier. As it is I'm going to dig out my MX Brown Leopold keyboard and give that another try for comparison..
I received mine today with clears... They're a bit heavy for my liking.
I received mine today with clears... They're a bit heavy for my liking.
I was very afraid I had made a terrible decision after I modded my QFR to clears. After a week of using it, it became my favourite board. If you're coming from lighter switches, clears take some getting used to, but I recommend you give it a chance. That said, heavy switches aren't for everyone.
I have been very impressed by the build quality of the KUL ES-87, especially compared to that of the CM Storm Quickfire Rapid. If you have any questions specifically regarding comparing these two boards I should be able to answer them.
I have been very impressed by the build quality of the KUL ES-87, especially compared to that of the CM Storm Quickfire Rapid. If you have any questions specifically regarding comparing these two boards I should be able to answer them.
Please tell us more. I have used the CM Storm Quickfire Rapid and found it very solid. I opened it and think it is well built. If the KUL is even more well built, does that mean you have a thicker plate? Or a metal casing? Is the weight any different?
I have been very impressed by the build quality of the KUL ES-87, especially compared to that of the CM Storm Quickfire Rapid. If you have any questions specifically regarding comparing these two boards I should be able to answer them.
Please tell us more. I have used the CM Storm Quickfire Rapid and found it very solid. I opened it and think it is well built. If the KUL is even more well built, does that mean you have a thicker plate? Or a metal casing? Is the weight any different?
If you're on the fence just buy the thing
It's so good I dont even need to say why.
I have been very impressed by the build quality of the KUL ES-87, especially compared to that of the CM Storm Quickfire Rapid. If you have any questions specifically regarding comparing these two boards I should be able to answer them.
Please tell us more. I have used the CM Storm Quickfire Rapid and found it very solid. I opened it and think it is well built. If the KUL is even more well built, does that mean you have a thicker plate? Or a metal casing? Is the weight any different?
+1. Would definitely like to hear how this KUL stacks against its competitors with more qualitative detail.
I mean every 2 bit reviewer has been like oh wow quality without actually going into it (well that's like 80% of YouTube and general reviews ... what i am trying to say is that anybody who uses a mechanical keyboard the first time will say WOW QUALITY even if it is a subpar mechanical keyboard).
Everybody always says wow what a solid board or something like that. At $130 with thin abs keycaps i really wish they showed off/demonstrated some of this quality.If you're on the fence just buy the thing
It's so good I dont even need to say why.
People have said this about every brand though and everybody says this about the newest board that they buy.
I've only heard good things about it. There's a review thread of it on here somewhere that I was reading the other day, let me see if I can find it.
E: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59116.0
A decent member review has been posted and there have been replys backing up the statements made as well as a few going more in-dpeth. I think the link was even one of the first posts in this thread;
Yep, reply #2, here ya go:I've only heard good things about it. There's a review thread of it on here somewhere that I was reading the other day, let me see if I can find it.
E: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59116.0
A decent member review has been posted and there have been replys backing up the statements made as well as a few going more in-dpeth. I think the link was even one of the first posts in this thread;
Yep, reply #2, here ya go:I've only heard good things about it. There's a review thread of it on here somewhere that I was reading the other day, let me see if I can find it.
E: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59116.0
Like the people asking (I believe), I also read the review. Didn't see sufficient reason to buy the KUL and not the Deck Francium, or a Filco TKL.
At most the review proved that KUL Is better than CM QFR, with things like Dip switches and double sided PCB. Author of that article says as much, saying that to beef up a CM QFR to the standards of the KUL will require too much money in improvements. He never compares the KUL to Ducky Shine TKL or any of the better names. At least we know that there are good comparative reviews between the Lexus and the Mercedes/ BMW/ Volvo/ whatever else is in the luxury class.
That's still very far from proving that KUL Is the 'best' mechanical keyboard around, or even that it is among the best. I am definitely not convinced I should buy KUL.
If you guys would just buy one, you would see why everyone who owns one has nothing but good to say of them.
I'm not a person who has zero experience with mechanical keyboards and thinks that the KUL is great without having some frame of reference. I currently own seven, yes 7, Filco keyboards. Four of them are TKL and three are full size. I own a QFR and two Rosewill RK-9000s. I owned a WASD CODE for a few weeks, before I returned it to WASD. So when I tell you that the KUL is as good or better than any stock keyboard I have tried, excepting the Leopold TypeNow Solid (which has an aluminum housing), I know what I'm saying. The Filco is, and has been, my keyboard of choice barring customs or 60% designs. And I tell you now that the KUL feels more solid and at least as well-built as the Filco.
You can believe me or not. But seeing is believing. When you get the chance to use one in person, you will realize that I'm not wrong.
Also, I have no affiliation with KUL whatsoever. I have not been paid for endorsing the product, nor given anything in exchange for my recommendation. I paid full price for my KUL ES-87 from EliteKeyboards.
If you guys would just buy one, you would see why everyone who owns one has nothing but good to say of them.
I'm not a person who has zero experience with mechanical keyboards and thinks that the KUL is great without having some frame of reference. I currently own seven, yes 7, Filco keyboards. Four of them are TKL and three are full size. I own a QFR and two Rosewill RK-9000s. I owned a WASD CODE for a few weeks, before I returned it to WASD. So when I tell you that the KUL is as good or better than any stock keyboard I have tried, excepting the Leopold TypeNow Solid (which has an aluminum housing), I know what I'm saying. The Filco is, and has been, my keyboard of choice barring customs or 60% designs. And I tell you now that the KUL feels more solid and at least as well-built as the Filco.
You can believe me or not. But seeing is believing. When you get the chance to use one in person, you will realize that I'm not wrong.
Also, I have no affiliation with KUL whatsoever. I have not been paid for endorsing the product, nor given anything in exchange for my recommendation. I paid full price for my KUL ES-87 from EliteKeyboards.
Only thing that bothers me are those who simultaneously put Filco up on a pedestal while bashing the KUL solely on its keycaps.Yeah, the keycaps are in the same category as the Filco stock keycaps. It doesn't really matter to me, because I don't like OEM profile caps, so I never use stock keycaps anyway. Even the stock PBT caps on my Keycool came off the first day. To slight a keyboard because it doesn't come with thick PBT caps is not even relevant to me, because: PBT is all hype; they are still OEM profile.
The Filco's stock keycaps are just as pedestrian.
Only thing that bothers me are those who simultaneously put Filco up on a pedestal while bashing the KUL solely on its keycaps.Yeah, the keycaps are in the same category as the Filco stock keycaps. It doesn't really matter to me, because I don't like OEM profile caps, so I never use stock keycaps anyway. Even the stock PBT caps on my Keycool came off the first day. To slight a keyboard because it doesn't come with thick PBT caps is not even relevant to me, because: PBT is all hype; they are still OEM profile.
The Filco's stock keycaps are just as pedestrian.
Only thing that bothers me are those who simultaneously put Filco up on a pedestal while bashing the KUL solely on its keycaps.Yeah, the keycaps are in the same category as the Filco stock keycaps. It doesn't really matter to me, because I don't like OEM profile caps, so I never use stock keycaps anyway. Even the stock PBT caps on my Keycool came off the first day. To slight a keyboard because it doesn't come with thick PBT caps is not even relevant to me, because: PBT is all hype; they are still OEM profile.
The Filco's stock keycaps are just as pedestrian.
How would you say the quality of the case compares to a Filco? My initial impressions was that it was cheap'ish plastic, but maybe I was wrong. Now that I've had some more time with it, it doesn't seem as bad anymore.
Noob question here: how difficult would it be to replace the switches in the KUL with blues?
Is there a DIY guide someplace on generic switch replacement procedures?
Thank you for a meaty reply, eyesmiles
I own several Decks/TG3s, and guess I am pretty spoilt when it comes to the internals. I was not impressed by the KUL (am eternally surprised how little valued the TG3 is despite quality build), but concede that it definitely has better looking internals than the CMs Keycools and PLU I have seen. There is no stinting or corner cutting as far as I can see.
That said I still don’t know if KUL can be said to be better than the Deck. Apart from the usual grouses I have about the font.