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Title: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: codyeatworld on Thu, 31 July 2014, 03:34:59
GON has asked me run an interest check for a PCB and PLATE combo for KMACs.

It would be ~$105 for a PCB and CNC machined PLATE combo for KMACs.

The PCB will be green.

The PLATE will be universal, you can create any layout that the PCB supports! That means ISO, split backspace, short shifts, 1.5x or 1.25x.

The PLATE is required for the PCB to fit inside a KMAC.

The PLATE will be anodized in Glare or Non-Glare in any color that gon provides, however we all have to agree on ONE color.
We can add another plate color at 40 orders, as in: the first 40 plates could be silver, and the next ~40 (or less) could be pink.

Please reply if your interested. :)

Also, [CTRL]ALT will probably run this if we meet MOQ.
Title: Re: [IC] NerD PCB + PLATE for KMACs
Post by: Chonzer on Thu, 31 July 2014, 05:04:51
OOOOHH. Very interested. Would gon charge extra for hard anodizing for colours like grey or black like he does when he hard anodizes keyboard cases?
I know his grey and silver colours are very nice and would suit most keyboards.
Title: Re: [IC] NerD PCB + PLATE for KMACs
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 31 July 2014, 05:05:39
Does the plate allow switch top removal?
Title: Re: [IC] NerD PCB + PLATE for KMACs
Post by: Chonzer on Thu, 31 July 2014, 05:07:08
Does the plate allow switch top removal?
If the plates are like gon's plates that he sells on his website, you won't be able to remove the switch tops.  :(
Title: Re: [IC] NerD PCB + ISO/ANSI PLATE for KMACs
Post by: codyeatworld on Thu, 31 July 2014, 05:58:16
OOOOHH. Very interested. Would gon charge extra for hard anodizing for colours like grey or black like he does when he hard anodizes keyboard cases?
I know his grey and silver colours are very nice and would suit most keyboards.

Colors and hard anodizing will not be available for this. You may choose no anodizing so you can do it locally, but the price will remain the same.

Does the plate allow switch top removal?

The plate will not have notches for easy switch removal.

Also updated OP.

Come on everyone, turn your KMACs into ISO KMACS!
Title: Re: [IC] NerD PCB + ISO/ANSI PLATE for KMACs
Post by: lionblinds on Thu, 31 July 2014, 06:41:25
Very interested.
Title: Re: [IC] NerD PCB + ISO/ANSI PLATE for KMACs
Post by: YongJK on Thu, 31 July 2014, 06:52:36
This plate supports mounting on top frame, right?

The original KMAC plate supports both bottom and top mounting.

I am in for one, strongly suggest the classic red color, semi-glare would be best.  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] NerD PCB + ISO/ANSI PLATE for KMACs
Post by: codyeatworld on Thu, 31 July 2014, 07:41:15
This plate supports mounting on top frame, right?

The original KMAC plate supports both bottom and top mounting.

I am in for one, strongly suggest the classic red color, semi-glare would be best.  ;D

This plate will only support mounting on the bottom for KMAC 1 and 2 compatibility.

I also think red is good choice.
Title: Re: [IC] NerD PCB + ISO/ANSI PLATE for KMACs
Post by: pasph on Sun, 03 August 2014, 17:24:01
Interested
Title: Re: [IC] NerD PCB + ISO/ANSI PLATE for KMACs
Post by: dustinhxc on Sun, 03 August 2014, 17:35:04
Whoa.. Just wanted to say, this is awesome! I had a KMAC Happy before, but ISO would be legit..
Title: Re: [IC] NerD PCB + ISO/ANSI PLATE for KMACs
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 03 August 2014, 17:41:21
AWESOME idea!
Title: Re: [IC] NerD PCB + ISO/ANSI PLATE for KMACs
Post by: codyeatworld on Sat, 09 August 2014, 22:19:26
Well the moq for this is a bit higher. I'll look into the details and let everyone know.
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: aj-kun on Sun, 10 August 2014, 14:40:22
Will this work on a KMAC 2? if so I'm interested.
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: codyeatworld on Sun, 10 August 2014, 14:44:03
Will this work on a KMAC 2? if so I'm interested.


It will.
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: lightsout714 on Sun, 10 August 2014, 14:49:41
Curious why anyone would make a custom plate without the ability to remove switch tops. Is there a negative side of doing that?
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 10 August 2014, 14:55:09
Curious why anyone would make a custom plate without the ability to remove switch tops. Is there a negative side of doing that?

Cost of the extra cuts maybe and I've heard a few people say they think the cutouts aren't as stable.
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: codyeatworld on Sun, 10 August 2014, 15:00:25
Curious why anyone would make a custom plate without the ability to remove switch tops. Is there a negative side of doing that?

I don't really modify my keyboard after its built. But I think its because you can remove the top housing of the switch when you pull some caps off.
The switches are a really snug with gons design and makes the switch/keyboard feel very solid. I don't have any plates that have the ability to remove the switch tops or I would try to compare it. I wouldn't be surprised if it made no noticeable difference though.
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: jonathanyu on Sun, 10 August 2014, 16:38:56
interested  :) hope the plate could be red or purple
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: codyeatworld on Sun, 10 August 2014, 16:59:02
Curious why anyone would make a custom plate without the ability to remove switch tops. Is there a negative side of doing that?

Cost of the extra cuts maybe and I've heard a few people say they think the cutouts aren't as stable.


This too!

interested  :) hope the plate could be red or purple

They will more than likely be red, purple, or silver.

The ideal moq is 50, but if we are close I'm sure we can make it happen.
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: lightsout714 on Sun, 10 August 2014, 20:39:38
I see thanks for the info about cut outs.
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: taylordcraig on Tue, 12 August 2014, 10:26:07
But Cody didn't you just sell your Kmac?!
Where do the rest of us get beautiful Kmacs from?  :'(
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: codyeatworld on Tue, 12 August 2014, 10:33:14
But Cody didn't you just sell your Kmac?!
Where do the rest of us get beautiful Kmacs from?  :'(

I did... so I can pay for the Viper. I also really can't stand blacks and didn't want to tear it apart.

You can get a kmac from kbdmod.com :)
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: taylordcraig on Tue, 12 August 2014, 10:41:09
But Cody didn't you just sell your Kmac?!
Where do the rest of us get beautiful Kmacs from?  :'(

I did... so I can pay for the Viper. I also really can't stand blacks and didn't want to tear it apart.

You can get a kmac from kbdmod.com :)

Wow somehow I actually didn't know this.
When I have money again I guess I'll be on it. :P
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: ninjadoc on Tue, 12 August 2014, 10:43:21
I would take one set. I'm assuming the KMAC LE has no difference in the plate mounting than the 1 or 2.
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: Blackehart on Tue, 12 August 2014, 11:30:13
I would take one set. I'm assuming the KMAC LE has no difference in the plate mounting than the 1 or 2.


Interested in a purple or red if it fits on a LE.
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: codyeatworld on Tue, 12 August 2014, 11:46:31
It should work with any kmac, but bottom mount only.
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: ccc24 on Tue, 12 August 2014, 22:25:03
interested....what parts do we have to source ourselves? Do diodes come pre-soldered? And where exactly can we get kmac case?
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: yicaoyimu on Mon, 08 September 2014, 16:57:12
Any update for this IC? Do we have enough interest?
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: codyeatworld on Mon, 08 September 2014, 17:03:54
Any update for this IC? Do we have enough interest?

Yes!

I am working out how to run the GB, but we will need at least 10 orders of the pcb/plate combo.
PCB will be green.

This is a STEAL for kmac owners... :D
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 08 September 2014, 19:40:51
I'm in for at least one set.
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: Soulpyre on Mon, 08 September 2014, 21:41:50
Yes, I'm interested as long as the plate will be compatible with a KMAC LE.  :)
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 08 September 2014, 22:14:43
AFAIK, the holes for the plate are in different positions from the KMAC 1/LE to the 1.2/2. Are you sure they'll fit all?
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: cphead on Mon, 08 September 2014, 22:28:30
interested if it will fit kmac 2  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: GON on Tue, 09 September 2014, 07:17:32
AFAIK, the holes for the plate are in different positions from the KMAC 1/LE to the 1.2/2. Are you sure they'll fit all?



At first, I thought there would be quite many users interested. So I planned to make pairing PolyCarbonate Plate too.
But the qty is so small... that means no room for investing to sample plates and for negotiating the cost with the factory...
In conclusion, I decided to make it a small and limitted GB that PCB only will be offered.

User should re-assemble his KMAC to apply NerD TKL PCB. And have to mod a little bit to his plate(Spacebar stabilizer holes, it's very easy and simple.)

The Spec of NerD for KMAC will be exactly the same as regular NerD TKL Ver2.0.
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: pasph on Tue, 09 September 2014, 15:37:09
If we want ISO the mod isn't so little
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: GON on Tue, 09 September 2014, 21:35:39
If we want ISO the mod isn't so little


First offer was, "I will let KMAC users use ISO Layouts /w Full Function of NerD Controller". But interested members were only about 10...
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: Dreamre on Tue, 09 September 2014, 22:05:40
I'll be interested for 2 plates and 2 pcbs if this follows through!
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: combataran on Tue, 09 September 2014, 22:58:47
Would I be able to use the PCB with my original KMAC plate? I'd really appreciate the LED options on the Nerd. So much more that what the original PCB had.
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: GON on Wed, 10 September 2014, 08:46:46
Would I be able to use the PCB with my original KMAC plate? I'd really appreciate the LED options on the Nerd. So much more that what the original PCB had.

Of course, you can use Full In-Switch Backlight LEDs. ;)
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 11 September 2014, 11:36:02
If we can't get plates, I'm down for 2 PCBs :D.
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: GON on Thu, 11 September 2014, 22:00:37
If we can't get plates, I'm down for 2 PCBs :D.

I'm considering to make PolyCarbonate /w Diffuse Finish Plate for KMAC1(compatible to KMAC2).
With this plate, you can use all the supported layouts of NerD TKL including ISO. ;)
The Plate will be 2T and CNC-Machined /w Diffuse Finish
Pricing will be about $50~$55 for a Plate.

This plate will maximize On-PCB Backlight LEDs of NerD TKL 2.0 for KMAC.
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: ninjadoc on Sun, 14 September 2014, 19:53:20
If we can't get plates, I'm down for 2 PCBs :D .

I'm considering to make PolyCarbonate /w Diffuse Finish Plate for KMAC1(compatible to KMAC2).
With this plate, you can use all the supported layouts of NerD TKL including ISO. ;)
The Plate will be 2T and CNC-Machined /w Diffuse Finish
Pricing will be about $50~$55 for a Plate.

This plate will maximize On-PCB Backlight LEDs of NerD TKL 2.0 for KMAC.

I would buy at least one of both, maybe two to help you make it worth your while.
Has this been posted on Deskthority? Not sure how many over there would buy it but any little bit would help.
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: GON on Sun, 14 September 2014, 21:54:18
If we can't get plates, I'm down for 2 PCBs :D .

I'm considering to make PolyCarbonate /w Diffuse Finish Plate for KMAC1(compatible to KMAC2).
With this plate, you can use all the supported layouts of NerD TKL including ISO. ;)
The Plate will be 2T and CNC-Machined /w Diffuse Finish
Pricing will be about $50~$55 for a Plate.

This plate will maximize On-PCB Backlight LEDs of NerD TKL 2.0 for KMAC.

I would buy at least one of both, maybe two to help you make it worth your while.
Has this been posted on Deskthority? Not sure how many over there would buy it but any little bit would help.


If you could help, would you please let members of Deskthority know this too? ;)
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: DanielT on Sun, 14 September 2014, 23:26:57
I could post it on Deskthority, I did it for NerD60 Black PCB
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: GON on Mon, 15 September 2014, 00:33:56
I could post it on Deskthority, I did it for NerD60 Black PCB

Thank you Daniel. ;)
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: DanielT on Mon, 15 September 2014, 03:19:14
Posted also on Deskthority hope it helps  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: SaySo on Wed, 17 September 2014, 13:27:35
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Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: GON on Wed, 17 September 2014, 14:50:04
Is it just for the Kmac TKL or Kmac mini also ?
Thanks

Only for KMAC TKL. ;)
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: SaySo on Wed, 17 September 2014, 14:55:07
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Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: Sifo on Wed, 17 September 2014, 16:07:22
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/15-group-buys

Get on it guys. GB thread will be up soon but this is the order link
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: Blackehart on Wed, 17 September 2014, 16:50:30
If I got this correct...

We can get a different pcb (the nerd), but we cant get a plate.
We can get a polycarbonate plate.
Will this polycarbonate plate fit in the kmac's aluminum housing?
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: Sifo on Wed, 17 September 2014, 16:54:52
If I got this correct...

We can get a different pcb (the nerd), but we cant get a plate.
We can get a polycarbonate plate.
Will this polycarbonate plate fit in the kmac's aluminum housing?


ya just no alu plate
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: Blackehart on Wed, 17 September 2014, 18:19:11
Any chance an uncultured swine such as myself could get the plate and pcb assembled with switches through GON?
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: Sifo on Wed, 17 September 2014, 18:23:02
Any chance an uncultured swine such as myself could get the plate and pcb assembled with switches through GON?

Probably. just ask him
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: GON on Wed, 17 September 2014, 21:57:52
Any chance an uncultured swine such as myself could get the plate and pcb assembled with switches through GON?

Why not? ;)
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 18 September 2014, 09:10:52
Would it be possible to just have the resistors soldered on (of course for an additional cost)? Need this done for 2 PCBs!
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: GON on Thu, 18 September 2014, 10:04:49
Would it be possible to just have the resistors soldered on (of course for an additional cost)? Need this done for 2 PCBs!

Of course, I will add soldering options products too. ;)
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: GON on Thu, 18 September 2014, 10:06:07
I'm designing a 1.5T Polycarb multi-layout Plate for KMAC. ;)
You guys will be able to use ISO layout with your KMACs. If this GB is successful.
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: GON on Thu, 18 September 2014, 11:21:30
We've got an approval for this GB!

Now I'm taking orders
Refer to the following link

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62878.msg1473056#msg1473056
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: Blackehart on Thu, 18 September 2014, 17:57:26
ordered
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: GON on Sat, 20 September 2014, 19:02:02
Curious why anyone would make a custom plate without the ability to remove switch tops. Is there a negative side of doing that?

Cost of the extra cuts maybe and I've heard a few people say they think the cutouts aren't as stable.



Cost is not an issue. That makes no difference. ;)
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 20 September 2014, 19:40:01
Any chance of an alu plate? I just don't really dig PC as a case material.
Title: Re: [IC] KMAC PCB + PLATE (NerD)
Post by: GON on Sun, 21 September 2014, 00:54:12
Any chance of an alu plate? I just don't really dig PC as a case material.

In that case, the plate should be 2T /w CNC-machining... that means cost will increase. I think it should be about $55 for 2T Plate.
If the plate does not support multi-layout including ISO, 1.5T will do but, in case it should support all layouts in a single plate design, 2T design is needed = cost increase.

If you do want AL 2T Plate, I will make it. But the Plate will have out line of KMAC1 Plate for compatibility with KMAC1/1.2/2.

Let me know.

GON