I like the colours, I would scrap the orange though and find a nicer font. I also think that either all the keys should have a single icon, or that it should follow normal keyboard key design. Not the semi-mono legend that your preview has.
I like the colours, I would scrap the orange though and find a nicer font. I also think that either all the keys should have a single icon, or that it should follow normal keyboard key design. Not the semi-mono legend that your preview has.
Colors look great, but boo to DSA.
Oh I just ment the font in general. I know that if it's DSA it will have to be large and centered. I just think you can find a better font. And to each their own when it comes to colours. I've just never been found of the colour orange (or yellow for that matter). I just think it's a meh colour over all.I like the colours, I would scrap the orange though and find a nicer font. I also think that either all the keys should have a single icon, or that it should follow normal keyboard key design. Not the semi-mono legend that your preview has.
If it's DSA, it has to be large and centered (and it goes with the original). If it's DCS, it can be Cherry. The pic is just a rough idea though.
And, to be honest, the orange is really what makes it for me. I could probably add in a more "normal" option, but then it's practically inverted Dolch.
And, to be honest, the orange is really what makes it for me. I could probably add in a more "normal" option, but then it's practically inverted Dolch.
Personally I'd definitely prefer DCS.And, to be honest, the orange is really what makes it for me. I could probably add in a more "normal" option, but then it's practically inverted Dolch.
Yeah the orange is great. The alphas look like they have some brown in them in the pics though?
You should put the CTRL key back in its proper place, like your inspiration keyboards. Also, use the right name for RETURN. :)
You should put the CTRL key back in its proper place, like your inspiration keyboards. Also, use the right name for RETURN. :)
Love it. Especially since it's DSA. Sex if PBT, might still buy if ABS.
Hope it see it go into production with some kits/mods.
Agree on the added reds.
And next you'll be wanting a shift lock cap.Shift Lock, make it happen! ;D
Changing enter to Return is a good idea that I think I'll do, but, since I'm proposing DSA, you can **** with the CTRL wherever you want.
And, to be honest, the orange is really what makes it for me. I could probably add in a more "normal" option, but then it's practically inverted Dolch. I guess I need to buy an SP color ring so I can show off a nice dark orange (or get them to do a custom orange) and show what the colors would actually be. I just have a hard time dropping $40 on a color ring to make SP money.
It's inverted from Dolch and I'm also aiming for more of a dark almost brownish color for the Alphas like in the first pic. I need to get a color ring again to get the colors set.
Yeah, thats what I'm using as my accent colour in my Burnt Papyrus IC. It's a really deep brown colour.It's inverted from Dolch and I'm also aiming for more of a dark almost brownish color for the Alphas like in the first pic. I need to get a color ring again to get the colors set.
I think the brown color you want is TAA.
I was working on a very similar design before someone suggested your GB on Deskthority, here is what I thought would be a good recreation of the Epson keyset.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/m5FtmGD.png)
http://imgur.com/a/HtviC (http://imgur.com/a/HtviC) is the Imgur album of all my work on it. I thought it should be DCS to keep it consistent with the original design and to separate itself from all of the DSA sets being made right now. I also went with brown legends for the modifiers which gives them more pop in my opinion.
Hopefully this set can come to fruition, if you want any help with more photos of my PX-8 or of my design ideas, I would love to contribute.
Well, the plan is to do something like this, pending color rings and choosing from those:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Iz0FH9B.png)
And in before Elrick says SA because it's the best profile ever and everything should be done in SA. DCS is a possibility, but SA will not be done.
I was working on a very similar design before someone suggested your GB on Deskthority, here is what I thought would be a good recreation of the Epson keyset.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/m5FtmGD.png)
http://imgur.com/a/HtviC (http://imgur.com/a/HtviC) is the Imgur album of all my work on it. I thought it should be DCS to keep it consistent with the original design and to separate itself from all of the DSA sets being made right now. I also went with brown legends for the modifiers which gives them more pop in my opinion.
Hopefully this set can come to fruition, if you want any help with more photos of my PX-8 or of my design ideas, I would love to contribute.
Well, the plan is to do something like this, pending color rings and choosing from those:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Iz0FH9B.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/8ZlFXy3.png)
The brown is TBN, which isn't well represented on the mock up site.
The 60% symmetry set at the bottom will be built into the main set as will the color set. Then you have a Tsangan and an ISO set. The modifiers will be the same between the two, but you can buy the grey or the brown Alphas. Even though the legends will be different from Retro DSA colors, the brown is the same color, so letting you choose which Alpha lets you use your Retro DSA Alphas if you already have the set.
DSA is the planned profile since the HX-20 and HX-40 that inspired the set are DSA.
And in before Elrick says SA because it's the best profile ever and everything should be done in SA. DCS is a possibility, but SA will not be done.
DSA all the way and I'm in love. Awesome job as usual nubs!!! :thumb:I was working on a very similar design before someone suggested your GB on Deskthority, here is what I thought would be a good recreation of the Epson keyset.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/m5FtmGD.png)
http://imgur.com/a/HtviC (http://imgur.com/a/HtviC) is the Imgur album of all my work on it. I thought it should be DCS to keep it consistent with the original design and to separate itself from all of the DSA sets being made right now. I also went with brown legends for the modifiers which gives them more pop in my opinion.
Hopefully this set can come to fruition, if you want any help with more photos of my PX-8 or of my design ideas, I would love to contribute.
Well, the plan is to do something like this, pending color rings and choosing from those:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Iz0FH9B.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/8ZlFXy3.png)
The brown is TBN, which isn't well represented on the mock up site.
The 60% symmetry set at the bottom will be built into the main set as will the color set. Then you have a Tsangan and an ISO set. The modifiers will be the same between the two, but you can buy the grey or the brown Alphas. Even though the legends will be different from Retro DSA colors, the brown is the same color, so letting you choose which Alpha lets you use your Retro DSA Alphas if you already have the set.
DSA is the planned profile since the HX-20 and HX-40 that inspired the set are DSA.
And in before Elrick says SA because it's the best profile ever and everything should be done in SA. DCS is a possibility, but SA will not be done.
Wish this were PBT over ABS...
Wish this were PBT over ABS...
It's impossible to do in PBT. You can't dyesub light on dark and SP can't do doubleshot PBT. I love PBT, but you work with the tools you have.
Wish this were PBT over ABS...
It's impossible to do in PBT. You can't dyesub light on dark and SP can't do doubleshot PBT. I love PBT, but you work with the tools you have.
At least SP's ABS keycaps should be relatively thick and high quality, right?
Playing around with the idea of some WASD clusters:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/izGZgJP.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/rW4dojv.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/cMSUsfz.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/EUek7J6.png)
Playing around with the idea of some WASD clusters:Orange looks good with grey and brown, but the blue seems to only work with the grey... IMO... :pShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/izGZgJP.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/rW4dojv.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/cMSUsfz.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/EUek7J6.png)
Wish this were PBT over ABS...
It's impossible to do in PBT. You can't dyesub light on dark and SP can't do doubleshot PBT. I love PBT, but you work with the tools you have.
I keep telling myself it's an optical illusion, but the brown alphas appear to lend a brown tone to all the other keys, which makes the image look washed out or artificially aged to me. I think it would probably look much better in person.
Still kinda prefer the gray.
Wow love that last one. I don't have enough keyboards for all the nice sets coming out recently....
Wow love that last one. I don't have enough keyboards for all the nice sets coming out recently....
Time to buy more boards.
Wow love that last one. I don't have enough keyboards for all the nice sets coming out recently....
Time to buy more boards.
You're now a Geekhacker, ALWAYS buy more keyboards even if you don't need them now, but in the future you will :thumb: .
Lol I've already bought 3 in the short time I've been here... ;D
Although I guess I haven't built a 60% yet... hmmm I see a nice black GON pcb GB and an IC for a one with hot swappable switches and LEDS. :p
I'd be in for sure, although may I point out this would also look really nice in SA profile also? :D
Loving this, what color are those legends going to be? Could pop some color in there on the gray set like you had going with the Royal Apollo set (...I really wish that had tipped :( )
I'd be in for sure, although may I point out this would also look really nice in SA profile also? :D
You may, but I won't run it as SA until after DSA is made.Loving this, what color are those legends going to be? Could pop some color in there on the gray set like you had going with the Royal Apollo set (...I really wish that had tipped :( )
I'm aiming for WCK or one of the other beige/creams to give it an aged look. There will be some color with some of the oranges and reds, but it will be a little more laid back outside of the possibility of some mod packs. If anyone has any ideas for mod packs they'd like to see, please pipe up.
Tell me more about what you mean by icon mod set.
ISO is definitely planned. I just need to get a better idea of what should be included in it. It sees every GB has different caps in their ISO kit. That makes it kind of tough to figure out the ideal caps.
And for the Ergodox mentioned above, I don't have one, so it helps if you list the special caps needed for an e-dox kit.
Playing around with the idea of some WASD clusters:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/izGZgJP.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/rW4dojv.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/cMSUsfz.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/EUek7J6.png)
Playing around with the idea of some WASD clusters:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/izGZgJP.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/rW4dojv.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/cMSUsfz.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/EUek7J6.png)
Liking the orange wasd with the brown, and the blue wasd with the gray. Very interested!
SA pls?
I'd be in for sure, although may I point out this would also look really nice in SA profile also? :D
You may, but I won't run it as SA until after DSA is made.
DSA is a faithful profile for the set to match the original. Of course, some does not care about fidelity in the reproduction, instead they care just about what they want, another this, or another that. Therefore, fulfill the dream of the masses, who cares about retro-sh...
How faithful is the GMK colorway, in your opinion?
I'm still on board for a DSA set. Stick with the original plan, I say. :P
How faithful is the GMK colorway, in your opinion?
I'm still on board for a DSA set. Stick with the original plan, I say. :P
Faithful to Epson? The Alphas aren't but the mods are. I still think GMK looks great.
I'll need to order some SP rings to scan and make some SP mock ups with. I'm just having a hard time dropping ~$50 with shipping.
And I got an e-mail from Melissa. SS is totally retired. I can only do DSA, DCS, SA, or KT.
I really couldn't say. I was planning on scanning them in so I could play with them and figure out the best colors. It would have to be the reds, browns, and greys at the least.
I really couldn't say. I was planning on scanning them in so I could play with them and figure out the best colors. It would have to be the reds, browns, and greys at the least.
Don't forget that Krogenar did this (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45743.0) with the ABS chips back in 2013. Just putting it out there.
no news regarding this set?
no news regarding this set?
There were way too many SP sets going on at once and PMK hasn't really been a great avenue, so it's on hold. I still really want to do the set, but I'm trying to find a better way of doing it.
no news regarding this set?
There were way too many SP sets going on at once and PMK hasn't really been a great avenue, so it's on hold. I still really want to do the set, but I'm trying to find a better way of doing it.
That is wise, there is just too many GBs running now; however I think the idea is great. It took me a while to get accustom to DSA profile, but now it is second nature, and the look is just far better than most of the other profiles available. I have one main driver with DSA, and my second one with a Cherry set.
Tell me more about what you mean by icon mod set.
ISO is definitely planned. I just need to get a better idea of what should be included in it. It sees every GB has different caps in their ISO kit. That makes it kind of tough to figure out the ideal caps.
And for the Ergodox mentioned above, I don't have one, so it helps if you list the special caps needed for an e-dox kit.
The big problem with ISO support is twofold. First off, no matter how you do it someone complains and you get threats that unless you do it a certain way someone won't join. Those often include region and language specific keys instead of blanks. Those threats are a huge impact on reason two. Secondly, they add a considerable amount of money to the set (~$10-20) which is often a barrier to participation and you get the majority ANSI users complaining about the additional cost that they're subsidizing.
If I can run it on CtrlAlt (and handle distro myself and/or with volunteers) where people buy because Bunny, I'd do something like you suggest. If it's on PMK (as much as I hate the site), it will likely be a split set since the ISO kit will really hit hard.
I'd love to have built in ISO support, but, realistically, it's highly contingent upon how it's done as to whether or not ISO support is added.
Still planning on doing this set, just not sure what's the best way to run it and debating mixing up the profile.
Loving the color scheme however I'm not much of a DSA fan. DCS wld have easily won me over - any chance of having this in DCS?
Still planning on doing this set, just not sure what's the best way to run it and debating mixing up the profile.
I think this would be the perfect set for JT Keycaps.
This is hoping their quality is as good as the previews suggest.
I guess we will find out soon :thumb:
DSA is more similar to the original Cassette computer's keyboards, that the set tries to emulate, I do not see how SA, with its taller profile, may resemble those boards. Maybe just the color.
I am very interested - but in ISO Nordic or Norwegian. I have been looking for a Dolch set, but like this colorway more. And DSA is also my favorite.
A pity DSA is matte only. I'd love to have a set like this, but in "squashed SA", low profile, but with wider keytops than DSA and in semi-matte or even gloss.
Perhaps something like Devlin Q series: http://deskthority.net/wiki/Devlin_Q_series
A pity DSA is matte only. I'd love to have a set like this, but in "squashed SA", low profile, but with wider keytops than DSA and in semi-matte or even gloss.
Perhaps something like Devlin Q series: http://deskthority.net/wiki/Devlin_Q_series
Last I talked to Devlin they would only with with QWERkeys. They were also about as expensive as GMK with an equally high MOQ. I also believe Q series is missing certain cap sizes you'd needed.
There are too many SA sets lately, my vote would be to do DSA to match the original more closely. Devlin also recently showed some new spherical caps as well.
Y, UKKeycaps is looking like the replacement for QWERKeys, so hopefully they step up and show us some Q profile awesomeness.
Another option for this design could be in all Row 3 SA with a possible new font (hint, hint) that may become possible in a while... (it'll match the first inspiration photo font pretty darn well).
It is clear some advocate SA over DSA, but the original idea here, the cassette computers, carried DSA style key caps, that by the way are an SP original; thus, there is no vintage device that actually had them, as part of their OEM design.
It is clear some advocate SA over DSA, but the original idea here, the cassette computers, carried DSA style key caps, that by the way are an SP original; thus, there is no vintage device that actually had them, as part of their OEM design.
SP was not the originator of the profile. Cherry actually had a dished cap set (like this (http://imgur.com/gallery/bPqTw), this (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=63201.msg1484839#msg1484839), and this (http://i.imgur.com/6LrJ8VI.jpg)) that I believe they did for their M8 switches that I would kill for and would kill to do this set in, but I have no clue who holds the molds, how much it would be, and if they would have all the caps available.
It is not clear how SA could be related with Olivetti Valentine more than any other key cap; because, the Valentine is a mechanical typewriter, whose "keys" are actually levelers.
It is clear some advocate SA over DSA, but the original idea here, the cassette computers, carried DSA style key caps, that by the way are an SP original; thus, there is no vintage device that actually had them, as part of their OEM design.
It is not clear how SA could be related with Olivetti Valentine more than any other key cap; because, the Valentine is a mechanical typewriter, whose "keys" are actually levelers.
It is clear some advocate SA over DSA, but the original idea here, the cassette computers, carried DSA style key caps, that by the way are an SP original; thus, there is no vintage device that actually had them, as part of their OEM design.
If nubbinator doesn't want to go in that direction, you can forget about the Valentine (with regards to this thread). I don't have a really strong opinion about keycap profiles other than that they make sense for the keycap set and the people who are using them; Row 3 SA has larger tops and different finish options, and may have a nice font, is all. I'm not a fanboy, I just think the options should be carefully considered.
Y, UKKeycaps is looking like the replacement for QWERKeys, so hopefully they step up and show us some Q profile awesomeness.
Another option for this design could be in all Row 3 SA with a possible new font (hint, hint) that may become possible in a while... (it'll match the first inspiration photo font pretty darn well).
I well and truly hate SA, but I do want to see this happen.
Granite:
Good:
Great color combination.
Awesome design, specially the icons.
PBT = long lasting.
Not so good, for some:
DSA, not a bad trade-off to get a very nice, useful, flexible, and long lasting set.
Granite:
Good:
Great color combination.
Awesome design, specially the icons.
PBT = long lasting.
Not so good, for some:
DSA, not a bad trade-off to get a very nice, useful, flexible, and long lasting set.
Agreed, I'm not a big fan of DSA, but it replicates the original style not too badly, and I'd like to have this in PBT.
Colors look great, but boo to DSA.
I'm a fan of DSA, I think we need more! Too many SA keysets out there (plus super long queue for them).If there's so many, how come I can't find any ? Are there no artists left ? It really annoys me , this term "artisans". How it refers to ONE keycap, where's the full keyset with wacky textures and custom pantone colors?
I'm a fan of DSA, I think we need more! Too many SA keysets out there (plus super long queue for them).If there's so many, how come I can't find any ? Are there no artists left ? It really annoys me , this term "artisans". How it refers to ONE keycap, where's the full keyset with wacky textures and custom pantone colors?
You can always just buy 108 artisan keycaps and make your own set ;)I'm a fan of DSA, I think we need more! Too many SA keysets out there (plus super long queue for them).If there's so many, how come I can't find any ? Are there no artists left ? It really annoys me , this term "artisans". How it refers to ONE keycap, where's the full keyset with wacky textures and custom pantone colors?
I'm a fan of DSA, I think we need more! Too many SA keysets out there (plus super long queue for them).If there's so many, how come I can't find any ?
Yea, I get it. I'm just publicly venting. And I'm hoping to get another plastics manufacturer on board the SA train. Signature plastics has ruled long enough. (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160406/d8b8a002a68c47dd78f5647aa4fe8363.jpg)I'm a fan of DSA, I think we need more! Too many SA keysets out there (plus super long queue for them).If there's so many, how come I can't find any ?
Because all the SA sets "out there" are on people's keyboards, not sitting in some warehouse waiting to be bought.
Group buys typically have a very narrow window of opportunity for purchase, and they generally only make enough stock to fill the pre-orders. So if you missed out on the group buy(s), you are out of luck. Unless, of course, someone wants to sell their (used) set, which is pretty rare for SA sets.