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Title: Ducky shine 3 or Corsair vengence K70 or something else for Linux
Post by: b0f0 on Sat, 02 August 2014, 09:32:07
Hi !

I need your help. Cant decide which keyboard to choose for Linux. I have Manjaro Linux.

The keyboards has to be illuminated
Duck shine 3
Corsair vengence K70
or something else for linux

What keyboard do you use and does it work on linux ?
Title: Re: Ducky shine 3 or Corsair vengence K70 or something else for Linux
Post by: jameslr on Sat, 02 August 2014, 10:35:49
As far as I know there shouldn't be any compatibility problems with either of these keyboards on linux. Out of those two I would probably get the Ducky Shine 3. It's a solid board. I wouldn't get the K70 personally as there have been some quality control complaints and Corsair's support is meh in my opinion. It's a shame too because they're nice looking boards.
Title: Re: Ducky shine 3 or Corsair vengence K70 or something else for Linux
Post by: FrostyToast on Sat, 02 August 2014, 10:45:24
The k70 has issues with having keycap sets as it uses a very non standard bottom row. If you plan on getting some fancy keycap sets, then you are going to have a hell of a time finding a spacebar that fits.
Title: Re: Ducky shine 3 or Corsair vengence K70 or something else for Linux
Post by: b0f0 on Sat, 02 August 2014, 12:28:23
Thank you for your explanation and comments. What do you think about the  Roccat Ryos mk pro keyboard ? I am asking because they have unofficial linux support for their products.

So currently I have four keyboards that I like:
Ducky Shine 3 165€
+no driver needed
+has audio volume keys
-doesnt have usb or and audio output
-CAPS_NUM-SCROLL lock led problmes in linux
-no official/unofficial support for linux

Corsair vengence K70 147€
+nodriver
+has usb
+has voume wheel thta looks relay cool
-has volume wheel that doesn work in linux
-has no audio output
-CAPS_NUM-SCROLL lock led problmes in linux

Corsair vengence K95 161€
pretty much the same problems in linux as K70
+G keys work with some fix in linux, I think makros dont work
-no offical support for linux

Roccat ryos mk pro 165€+shipping cost from foreign county
+has unofficial drivers for linux
+has usb output
+has audio output
+has volume control keys
-its huge
-cant remove wrist pad
-I dont need so many lightning effect

But I dont know anything about the quality/performance about these products. These are all expensive keyboards.
Also I want the red key switches and all these keyboards come with red switches. I want reds because I heard that these are the quiet switches and good for gaming and for typeing.

What do you think about the quality of these products ? And did anyone try his keyboard in linux if so can you please write which keyboard product are you using ?
Also my current keyboard is Cherry G83 membrane keyboard, will I feel the difference when I buy a machanical ? Is the mechanical realy that good ?
Title: Re: Ducky shine 3 or Corsair vengence K70 or something else for Linux
Post by: ndakota79 on Sat, 02 August 2014, 13:38:38
My Ducky Shine 3 is working well with Linux Mint 17. But right: Scroll lock led doesn't shine but I never noticed that since I don't use it.
Also it's qualitywise the best board out of those you named.

I would not recommend the Roccat Ryos because of the fancy design that easily attracts fingerprints. It's also not standard layout, so you won't get other keycaps for that board, at least not easily. And for the third, i'm pretty sure that it doesn't have the build quality of some other 160 bucks boards.
Title: Re: Ducky shine 3 or Corsair vengence K70 or something else for Linux
Post by: b0f0 on Sat, 02 August 2014, 13:51:16
Hearing your Ducky Shine works on Linux makes me very happy :), also thank you for the information about the quality and your opinion for ryos mk pro. 
Title: Re: Ducky shine 3 or Corsair vengence K70 or something else for Linux
Post by: C5Allroad on Sat, 02 August 2014, 15:11:13
My shine has no issues on linux.  :D
Title: Re: Ducky shine 3 or Corsair vengence K70 or something else for Linux
Post by: b0f0 on Sat, 02 August 2014, 15:40:40
My shine has no issues on linux.  :D
:) Cool. What distribution of Linux are you using ? So if I understand you correctly you didt have any issues from the start or did you found a fix for the leds --> kbd_mode -u   ?
Title: Re: Ducky shine 3 or Corsair vengence K70 or something else for Linux
Post by: C5Allroad on Sat, 02 August 2014, 15:42:13
I use Ubuntu...
Haven't tried switching modes.
It doesn't need drivers. You go to their website and flash the firmware.
Title: Re: Ducky shine 3 or Corsair vengence K70 or something else for Linux
Post by: b0f0 on Sat, 02 August 2014, 16:32:57
.......You go to their website and flash the firmware.
One more side quiestion. When you flash the firmware do you do it in Windows (dual boot) or with WINE or with windows installed in virtualbox (or any other virtual machine) ? Because its an EXE file.
Title: Re: Ducky shine 3 or Corsair vengence K70 or something else for Linux
Post by: C5Allroad on Sat, 02 August 2014, 16:33:43
.......You go to their website and flash the firmware.
One more side quiestion. When you flash the firmware do you do it in Windows (dual boot) or with WINE or with windows installed in virtualbox (or any other virtual machine) ? Because its an EXE file.
I did it within windows.
Title: Re: Ducky shine 3 or Corsair vengence K70 or something else for Linux
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 02 August 2014, 19:03:17
FWIW I have had caps lock LED problems on Linux (Ubuntu) with every keyboard I have used.
Title: Re: Ducky shine 3 or Corsair vengence K70 or something else for Linux
Post by: C5Allroad on Sat, 02 August 2014, 20:27:58
I'll boot into ubuntu and check.

[Edit]
Caps works, and so does num lock  :p
All modes work. Shine 3 master race!
Title: Re: Ducky shine 3 or Corsair vengence K70 or something else for Linux
Post by: b0f0 on Sun, 03 August 2014, 05:56:35
I just noticed :) that even on my old G83 Cherry the Scroll lock doesnt work. I m not using scroll lock at all. Ok so thats ok if the Scrool lock led doesnt work. I m ok with that.
Title: Re: Ducky shine 3 or Corsair vengence K70 or something else for Linux
Post by: b0f0 on Mon, 04 August 2014, 07:50:54
Thanks to all here posting and helping. I ordered my Ducky Shine 3 today and I will pick it up next week and test it in LInux ! AAAHAHAHA !  :-X
Title: Re: Ducky shine 3 or Corsair vengence K70 or something else for Linux
Post by: C5Allroad on Mon, 04 August 2014, 13:24:34
Thanks to all here posting and helping. I ordered my Ducky Shine 3 today and I will pick it up next week and test it in LInux ! AAAHAHAHA !  :-X


What distro will you use?



 
I just noticed :) that even on my old G83 Cherry the Scroll lock doesnt work. I m not using scroll lock at all. Ok so thats ok if the Scrool lock led doesnt work. I m ok with that.
I don't think scroll lock is supposed to work?
Title: Re: Ducky shine 3 or Corsair vengence K70 or something else for Linux
Post by: b0f0 on Mon, 04 August 2014, 14:11:41
I will use Manjaro Linux, actualy I m using it right now. I think the broken led for scroll lock will not bother me much because I dont  use  Scroll lock at all. There is a fix for the Scroll lock on internet. Maybe I ll try and fix it just for fun. http://linuxtechie.wordpress.com/2008/04/07/getting-scroll-lock-to-work-in-ubuntu/ (http://linuxtechie.wordpress.com/2008/04/07/getting-scroll-lock-to-work-in-ubuntu/)
Title: Re: Ducky shine 3 or Corsair vengence K70 or something else for Linux
Post by: C5Allroad on Mon, 04 August 2014, 16:27:15
Oh thanks lol. I've never used scroll lock lol. So it never really occurred to me that the LED didn't work lol.