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Title: Untested IBM Model F AT $80 OBO + Shipping
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 03 August 2014, 21:17:34
Assuming it's working, it's a steal for an F AT.  It should be working since it appears to be a NIB replacement unit.  I'd buy it, but I caught the Alps bug.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-RARE-VINTAGE-CLICKY-AT-KEYBOARD-EXCELLENT-CONDITION-NOT-TESTED-BUT-WARANTIED-/141366862528?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item20ea1f22c0
Title: Re: Untested IBM Model F AT $80 OBO + Shipping
Post by: Lingj on Sun, 03 August 2014, 21:21:48
Well, that was fast.
Title: Re: Untested IBM Model F AT $80 OBO + Shipping
Post by: JPG on Sun, 03 August 2014, 21:22:03
Could not resist this one, bye bye money!

Thx for link!
Title: Re: Untested IBM Model F AT $80 OBO + Shipping
Post by: JPG on Sun, 03 August 2014, 21:23:14
Now time to find a reason for my girlfriend until it gets home lol!
Title: Re: Untested IBM Model F AT $80 OBO + Shipping
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 03 August 2014, 21:24:15
..... It even has its box.
Title: Re: Untested IBM Model F AT $80 OBO + Shipping
Post by: paulen on Sun, 03 August 2014, 21:27:14
lol that was fast:))
Title: Re: Untested IBM Model F AT $80 OBO + Shipping
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 03 August 2014, 21:28:31
Could not resist this one, bye bye money!

Thx for link!

You'll love it aside from the backspace.  Model Fs are the best buckling spring boards out there.


..... It even has its box.

Yeah, that's why I said it looks to be a replacement unit.  I know a lot of the field replacement keyboards had that short warranty and the box.  At $80 +shipping it was a ridiculous price.  I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did.
Title: Re: Untested IBM Model F AT $80 OBO + Shipping
Post by: JPG on Sun, 03 August 2014, 21:54:54
Could not resist this one, bye bye money!

Thx for link!

You'll love it aside from the backspace.  Model Fs are the best buckling spring boards out there.


..... It even has its box.

Yeah, that's why I said it looks to be a replacement unit.  I know a lot of the field replacement keyboards had that short warranty and the box.  At $80 +shipping it was a ridiculous price.  I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did.

I already use my model F122 at job and have 2 XT too, but was looking for an AT since the F122 is soooooo wide and it's not very comfortable since I use the mouse a lot recently. And this one looked very clean. And has it,s box and a nice fair price. Could just not resist!
Title: Re: Untested IBM Model F AT $80 OBO + Shipping
Post by: JPG on Sun, 03 August 2014, 22:01:39
Woa, just got a mail that said it was shipped and a tracking number ... not a lot of time for an excuse for girlfriend!!!!! AAHHHHH where is this thread that says how many keyboards you can own before you get a crisis from GF?
Title: Re: Untested IBM Model F AT $80 OBO + Shipping
Post by: ComradeSniper on Sun, 03 August 2014, 23:42:51
Damn, I'm jealous. That's a nice find.
Title: Re: Untested IBM Model F AT $80 OBO + Shipping
Post by: sleepy916 on Sun, 03 August 2014, 23:49:21
Nice pickup, I looked at it but already have 2 ATs.
Title: Re: Untested IBM Model F AT $80 OBO + Shipping
Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 04 August 2014, 01:28:43
Wow nice!

Last one I got with a box came in a keytronic box. I about had a heart attack until I opened it and a pristine AT model F KB lay inside.

Let us know when it arrives :)
Title: Re: Untested IBM Model F AT $80 OBO + Shipping
Post by: JPG on Sun, 24 August 2014, 22:08:43
Just finished converting it with a Soarer. Typing this on it right now. Super happy with it, weems to be 100% working so far. Need to floss mod it then it will be done for now. At some point I will need to fully restore it for the rust if I decide to do it, but I will try with an XT before doing it with an AT or F122 and not in the near future for sure!


I prefer the enter on the AT compared to the one on the F122 cause it's less wobbly, but the small backspace will require some time getting use to it. Time to stop making errors!


Anyway, just verry happing since it will let me put my mouse in a position where it does not hurt anymore! Damn F122, so nice except if you need to type and use the mouse a lot.
Title: Re: Untested IBM Model F AT $80 OBO + Shipping
Post by: Daspartic on Sun, 24 August 2014, 22:38:51
Great deal for that keyboard, glad ya like it!  :thumb:
Title: Re: Untested IBM Model F AT $80 OBO + Shipping
Post by: ShawnMeg on Sun, 24 August 2014, 23:14:21
Congrats.  Beautiful board.  You'll just have to do a conversion and move that backslash next to the right bracket on the second row.  Then, convert those two key to a single backspace.  Someone on this forum converted an AT to a  TKL, can't remember who.

How does the AT feel compared to an XT?
Title: Re: Untested IBM Model F AT $80 OBO + Shipping
Post by: JPG on Sun, 24 August 2014, 23:42:16
Congrats.  Beautiful board.  You'll just have to do a conversion and move that backslash next to the right bracket on the second row.  Then, convert those two key to a single backspace.  Someone on this forum converted an AT to a  TKL, can't remember who.

How does the AT feel compared to an XT?


Thx. It's already converted now and floss moded. I don't think I will change the layout much for now other than to add a layer for the arrows using ijkl and also I use some keys on the numpad for play/pause and volume up and down.


As for the comparison with the XT, it's mostly down to the layout since the keys feel the same mostly. I noticed a small difference in sound with my F122, but it's very faint. Also, the AT is a little more stressing to open because the plastic is vey thight after 30 years and the way it's held together it makes an incredibly loud noise when you open it as if the case was splitting in half. But once opened it's quite simple. I only removed the original cable and plugged a pro-micro with the Soarer converter code loaded and glued it.


Anyway I am very happy since it's working. I will be even more happy tomorrow because even if I loved my F122, it's just so wide that when used for typing while you also need to use the mouse a lot it's bad for my shoulder. At home, I gamed on the F122 and since I move the keyboard to the left to game it's not an issue.
Title: Re: Untested IBM Model F AT $80 OBO + Shipping
Post by: ShawnMeg on Sun, 24 August 2014, 23:48:54
Congrats.  Beautiful board.  You'll just have to do a conversion and move that backslash next to the right bracket on the second row.  Then, convert those two key to a single backspace.  Someone on this forum converted an AT to a  TKL, can't remember who.

How does the AT feel compared to an XT?


Thx. It's already converted now and floss moded. I don't think I will change the layout much for now other than to add a layer for the arrows using ijkl and also I use some keys on the numpad for play/pause and volume up and down.


As for the comparison with the XT, it's mostly down to the layout since the keys feel the same mostly. I noticed a small difference in sound with my F122, but it's very faint. Also, the AT is a little more stressing to open because the plastic is vey thight after 30 years and the way it's held together it makes an incredibly loud noise when you open it as if the case was splitting in half. But once opened it's quite simple. I only removed the original cable and plugged a pro-micro with the Soarer converter code loaded and glued it.


Anyway I am very happy since it's working. I will be even more happy tomorrow because even if I loved my F122, it's just so wide that when used for typing while you also need to use the mouse a lot it's bad for my shoulder. At home, I gamed on the F122 and since I move the keyboard to the left to game it's not an issue.

Did you get a pro Micro (or clone) off of eBay?  I read that thread on Deskthority to use one of those instead of a Teensy, but I think that some people reported that the mini-USB port is flimsy and has fallen off.  Did you use AVRdude to load the firmware?  Do you use Linux?  I'm new at all this, and use a Hagstrom for my 1st XT, but will be ordering a Teensy likely for the 2nd XT.
Title: Re: Untested IBM Model F AT $80 OBO + Shipping
Post by: JPG on Mon, 25 August 2014, 00:23:09
Congrats.  Beautiful board.  You'll just have to do a conversion and move that backslash next to the right bracket on the second row.  Then, convert those two key to a single backspace.  Someone on this forum converted an AT to a  TKL, can't remember who.

How does the AT feel compared to an XT?


Thx. It's already converted now and floss moded. I don't think I will change the layout much for now other than to add a layer for the arrows using ijkl and also I use some keys on the numpad for play/pause and volume up and down.


As for the comparison with the XT, it's mostly down to the layout since the keys feel the same mostly. I noticed a small difference in sound with my F122, but it's very faint. Also, the AT is a little more stressing to open because the plastic is vey thight after 30 years and the way it's held together it makes an incredibly loud noise when you open it as if the case was splitting in half. But once opened it's quite simple. I only removed the original cable and plugged a pro-micro with the Soarer converter code loaded and glued it.


Anyway I am very happy since it's working. I will be even more happy tomorrow because even if I loved my F122, it's just so wide that when used for typing while you also need to use the mouse a lot it's bad for my shoulder. At home, I gamed on the F122 and since I move the keyboard to the left to game it's not an issue.

Did you get a pro Micro (or clone) off of eBay?  I read that thread on Deskthority to use one of those instead of a Teensy, but I think that some people reported that the mini-USB port is flimsy and has fallen off.  Did you use AVRdude to load the firmware?  Do you use Linux?  I'm new at all this, and use a Hagstrom for my 1st XT, but will be ordering a Teensy likely for the 2nd XT.


I use some pro-micro (probably clone) that I got for 8$ on ebay. Used 4 so far and they are working well for me so far. I used avrdude to load the Soarer code, it's a 1 line command when you do it right. Then used the tools with the Soarer converter to load my layout modifications. I use it with Windows 7 and 8 with no problem.
Title: Re: Untested IBM Model F AT $80 OBO + Shipping
Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 25 August 2014, 07:51:40
Congrats.  Beautiful board.  You'll just have to do a conversion and move that backslash next to the right bracket on the second row.  Then, convert those two key to a single backspace.  Someone on this forum converted an AT to a  TKL, can't remember who.
e_twentynine has his AT model F in as close to SSK as possible configuration.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52379
(http://i.imgur.com/5P1pYBa.jpg)
Title: Re: Untested IBM Model F AT $80 OBO + Shipping
Post by: dgreekstallion on Mon, 22 September 2014, 21:05:26
Congrats.  Beautiful board.  You'll just have to do a conversion and move that backslash next to the right bracket on the second row.  Then, convert those two key to a single backspace.  Someone on this forum converted an AT to a  TKL, can't remember who.
e_twentynine has his AT model F in as close to SSK as possible configuration.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52379
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/5P1pYBa.jpg)


I wonder how he got those black caps. They are hnng.
Title: Re: Untested IBM Model F AT $80 OBO + Shipping
Post by: ComradeSniper on Mon, 22 September 2014, 21:06:18
Congrats.  Beautiful board.  You'll just have to do a conversion and move that backslash next to the right bracket on the second row.  Then, convert those two key to a single backspace.  Someone on this forum converted an AT to a  TKL, can't remember who.
e_twentynine has his AT model F in as close to SSK as possible configuration.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52379
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/5P1pYBa.jpg)


I wonder how he got those black caps. They are hnng.

Possibly from an M13?
Title: Re: Untested IBM Model F AT $80 OBO + Shipping
Post by: JPG on Mon, 22 September 2014, 21:12:48
I have been using this keyboard at job since I got it a few weeks ago and the layout works well. I remapped a few keys with the Soarer converter and added a layer for navigation and even if I would prefer some small differences, it's still quite nice to use as is. Small backspace is easy to get used to. I would prefer to have both ctrl and alt on left side, but it's rare that I need both, mostly for @ since I mapped the only alt as a left alt so I need to use ctrl + alt + 2 to make my @ (I use french as my default language).


Anyway, I am super happy with this keyboard. I still love my F122, but I now use it at home where I use it mainly for gaming.
Title: Re: Untested IBM Model F AT $80 OBO + Shipping
Post by: sunshine on Wed, 24 September 2014, 01:22:49
Assuming it's working, it's a steal for an F AT.  It should be working since it appears to be a NIB replacement unit.  I'd buy it, but I caught the Alps bug.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-RARE-VINTAGE-CLICKY-AT-KEYBOARD-EXCELLENT-CONDITION-NOT-TESTED-BUT-WARANTIED-/141366862528?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item20ea1f22c0
SORRY TO miss it