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Title: Feet up or feet down.
Post by: Fragil1ty on Mon, 04 August 2014, 11:19:42
On keyboards, what is your preference?


I think it always depends on the board that you're using, but at the moment on my Noppoo Choc Mini i'm just alternating depending on how my typing is that day, if it's not on form, I'll switch the feet down and the vice versa.


So yeah, what about you?
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Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Mon, 04 August 2014, 11:20:39
I have seen this thread before somewhere on here...

Feet down. Always down.
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Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 04 August 2014, 11:20:59
Feet up always.
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Post by: Fragil1ty on Mon, 04 August 2014, 11:25:24
I have seen this thread before somewhere on here...

Feet down. Always down.


Why always down if you don't mind me asking? is it just a comfort thing or?
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Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Mon, 04 August 2014, 11:27:28
I have seen this thread before somewhere on here...

Feet down. Always down.


Why always down if you don't mind me asking? is it just a comfort thing or?

It's supposedly more ergonomic. Plus for gaming, I much prefer my keyboard to be as flat as possible.
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Post by: Fragil1ty on Mon, 04 August 2014, 11:34:56
I have seen this thread before somewhere on here...

Feet down. Always down.


Why always down if you don't mind me asking? is it just a comfort thing or?

It's supposedly more ergonomic. Plus for gaming, I much prefer my keyboard to be as flat as possible.


Oooh, is that so. I did not know that. Damn. Might have to use it down more often then!
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Post by: Data on Mon, 04 August 2014, 12:02:45
I have seen this thread before somewhere on here...

Feet down. Always down.


Why always down if you don't mind me asking? is it just a comfort thing or?

It's supposedly more ergonomic. Plus for gaming, I much prefer my keyboard to be as flat as possible.


Oooh, is that so. I did not know that. Damn. Might have to use it down more often then!

Without a wrist rest, hands naturally relax down due to gravity.  This would translate to a forward-leaning keyboard being more comfortable for most people.  Elevating the part of the keyboard closest to your body is generally more ergonomic, but makes the keys harder to see (bad for beginners).  Comfort is subjective and at least partly psychological, so some people will just prefer the opposite.  I think keyboard "feet" are just a legacy thing.  I never use them.
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Post by: Flyersfan1 on Mon, 04 August 2014, 12:06:57
Ever since I bought one of the dampening mats from Fohat.Digs I've been going feet down on all my keyboards, I really like how sturdy everything feels typing on it.  It's turned all of my topre boards into ghetto type-s'.
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Post by: minho on Mon, 04 August 2014, 12:14:42
Feet down = more ergonomic so your wrist doesn't have to be as bent to use your keyboard. Imagine typing with your wrists bent at 90 degrees... it's an exaggeration of what feet up is at, but I just imagine that whenever I have to type on a keyboard with the feet up.
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Post by: absyrd on Mon, 04 August 2014, 12:15:33
Down, too. If it is up, I tend to wrest my wrists on the desk more.
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Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 04 August 2014, 12:15:54
Feet down
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Post by: E TwentyNine on Mon, 04 August 2014, 12:23:05
Can we get some terminology clarification here?

When I think "Feet up" I think "Feet in the UP/IN position, inside the keyboard" and "Feet down" as "Feed in the DOWN/OUT position, touching the table".

Not sure what usage some people are using here, seems to be a mix.

I'd say "feet IN or feet OUT" to remove vagueness.

That being said - feet in on my AT, feet out on M's (but sometimes in too, varies).
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Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 04 August 2014, 12:27:46
Yeah, I meant feet IN. As in I do not use feet on my keyboards, the lower the better imo.
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Post by: EpicSNES on Mon, 04 August 2014, 12:29:51
Feet out. I've always found it more comfortable.
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Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Mon, 04 August 2014, 12:31:02
How about "Do you use your keyboard feet, yes or no?"

No, I do not.
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Post by: Oobly on Mon, 04 August 2014, 12:43:31
Without feet. With a palm rest for when I'm not typing. Wrists up during typing, so the angle is quite flat and doesn't put stress on them. Chair up, desk down so my forearms are flat or slightly down if possible.
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Post by: Findecanor on Mon, 04 August 2014, 12:45:56
My keyboard's feet are down. My feet are up.
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Post by: Quardah on Mon, 04 August 2014, 12:59:04
Poker II #nofeet
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Post by: C5Allroad on Mon, 04 August 2014, 13:14:52
This is confusing... Lol feet up or down. How about I say no feet :p
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Post by: inanis on Mon, 04 August 2014, 13:22:11
I use the feet. On cases that don't have feet, I fashion some out of whatever is handy. Typing without the feet just feels weird to me. I also don't use a wrist rest, it just seems to get in the way.
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Post by: Novus on Mon, 04 August 2014, 13:41:49
Stinky feet. Smelly feet. Dirty feet. Foot fetish.
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Post by: Doyniish on Mon, 04 August 2014, 14:09:41
I am always down for having them down. Always have, always will.
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Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 04 August 2014, 17:30:52
Can we get some terminology clarification here?

When I think "Feet up" I think "Feet in the UP/IN position, inside the keyboard" and "Feet down" as "Feed in the DOWN/OUT position, touching the table".

Not sure what usage some people are using here, seems to be a mix.

I'd say "feet IN or feet OUT" to remove vagueness.

That being said - feet in on my AT, feet out on M's (but sometimes in too, varies).

How about "Do you use your keyboard feet, yes or no?"

No, I do not.
While that's better, I think the better question is: preferred keyboard angle?

For example, my lightsaver doesn't have feet but is up at a pretty steep angle. In contrast my pure is bolted to a metal plate and is at a flat angle.

My preferences depend heavily on keycap type: for example the highly sculpted keycaps of SP and the IBM pingmaster keyboards almost require a steep angle. On the other hand, flat profile keycaps are great with flat profile boards.
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Post by: paicrai on Mon, 04 August 2014, 17:38:58
****ing damnit im putting my foot down
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Post by: Novus on Mon, 04 August 2014, 17:40:32
****ing damnit im putting my foot down
A curious statement as a a foot can also go up though.
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Post by: rowdy on Mon, 04 August 2014, 17:46:04
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37219.0
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=8670.0
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58921.0
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Post by: 1391406 on Mon, 04 August 2014, 17:47:30
I never use the feet on my keyboard. The angle is far more comfortable without them, for me anyway.
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Post by: Grim Fandango on Mon, 04 August 2014, 17:55:47
I think it probably also depends on your setup (height of the keyboard etc).

Though for me personally, I never use the feet *(so up I guess). I am always more comfortable letting my hands hang forward rather than having to tilt them backward. Even trying it out now while I am typing this I can tell instantly that my hands are not as relaxed as I have to arch them back a little. If I relax them, they automatically kind of turn forward and position themselves for use when the feet are not used.

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Post by: Morwrath on Mon, 04 August 2014, 18:03:03
Can't use the feet on my Ducky Mini because there are no feet :) No problem using it but it would be nice to have the option to use legs aswell.
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Post by: SSIPAK on Mon, 04 August 2014, 18:16:16
feet up since its more comfortable when I type.
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Post by: Eszett on Mon, 04 August 2014, 18:22:44
With OEM keycap profile I prefered feet up, with DSA keycap profile feet down.
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Post by: Kiwi_321 on Mon, 04 August 2014, 20:21:27
Feet down, so that my wrists don't need to incline at all for my finger tips to be high enough to reach the top rows
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Post by: HebrewHammer on Tue, 05 August 2014, 00:30:30
No feet on my keyboard, just a slight angle. I don't use a wrist rest or anything either. When I use keyboards with feet I do tend to use the feet up though.
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Post by: Crazyhendrix on Tue, 05 August 2014, 10:57:19
Feet up. Read somewhere that it's better for the wrist/hands.
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Post by: Grim Fandango on Tue, 05 August 2014, 14:34:55
Feet down, so that my wrists don't need to incline at all for my finger tips to be high enough to reach the top rows

Wait, I am confused. "Feet down" means using the feet, and "feet up" means not using the feet correct?

Maybe up and down are not the best description. "feet up" sounds like they are in use. But when you look at the keyboard, putting them "up" means not using them. Pulling them "down" is what you do when you do use them. Unless you flip over the keyboard and consider the way things look at that moment  :-\
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Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 05 August 2014, 14:42:36
"Feet in" or "feet out" is better.

Or "No feet" or "Yes feet".

Or "I amputated my feet" or "I was born without feet".

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Post by: Grim Fandango on Tue, 05 August 2014, 14:58:51
"Feet in" or "feet out" is better.

Or "No feet" or "Yes feet".

Or "I amputated my feet" or "I was born without feet".

Yeah, feet in or out would be a much better way to describe it.
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Post by: Glenn315 on Tue, 05 August 2014, 16:37:05
Feet down. Feels more comfy to me.
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Post by: cbot on Tue, 05 August 2014, 21:46:15
Face down, ass up, that's the way we like to...

Ehhh. Feet down, fits better in my keyboard tray.
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Post by: cruzin on Tue, 05 August 2014, 22:27:48
Yeah, I'm confused as what means what too.  :D

I prefer feet "in". Keeps the keyboard flatter. Feels better on my wrists.
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Post by: katushkin on Tue, 05 August 2014, 22:30:46
I like my board flat, but it will be interesting to feel how my V60 works with the Granite set... Seeing as I don't think you can make it flat =/
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Post by: Emmiya on Tue, 05 August 2014, 23:44:30
Hmm, I wonder if i'm the only person who uses reverse-feet-out (http://imgur.com/PNxYYsm.jpg).


Please do excuse the terrible quality photo(5am)
Don't even get me started on the Keycaps u_u
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Post by: minho on Tue, 05 August 2014, 23:52:02
Hmm, I wonder if i'm the only person who uses reverse-feet-out (http://imgur.com/PnxYYsm).


Please do excuse the terrible quality photo(5am)
Don't even get me started on the Keycaps u_u

Your link doesn't work for me for some reason.
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Post by: henz on Wed, 06 August 2014, 06:59:32
No feet, Heavy hitter :)  keyboard stays better in place when it rests on the rubber stickers on 2 places rather than one.
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Post by: osi on Wed, 06 August 2014, 07:05:11
I used to be feet up always. Now I'm feet down always.
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Post by: Grim Fandango on Wed, 06 August 2014, 07:07:49
Hmm, I wonder if i'm the only person who uses reverse-feet-out (http://imgur.com/PNxYYsm.jpg).


Please do excuse the terrible quality photo(5am)
Don't even get me started on the Keycaps u_u

Depending on how you sit behind the desk, this can make a lot of sense. I am sure there are more people who have found that a setup like that is most comfortable to them. I tried it out myself as well, but my desk is too high for this to be comfortable. Probably would still rather use feet like this than the traditional way where things arch upwards.
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Post by: Azure Flash on Thu, 07 August 2014, 14:55:34
I like my keyboard's feet how I like women's feet: high up and wide apart
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Post by: Kiwi_321 on Thu, 07 August 2014, 20:39:43
I like my keyboard's feet how I like women's feet: high up and wide apart

Oh my
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Post by: heedpantsnow on Thu, 07 August 2014, 21:17:59
Don't know why they even put feet on them. Awful. Never use em.
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Post by: noisyturtle on Thu, 07 August 2014, 22:39:58
Metal cases don't have feet  ;)

But in terms of having feet, I like 'em down and flat.
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Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 07 August 2014, 23:04:39
Metal cases don't have feet  ;)

But in terms of having feet, I like 'em down and flat.
Your metal cases are lacking, then.
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Post by: quake4mhg on Thu, 07 August 2014, 23:47:24
Feet up. I need the angle.
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Post by: hasu on Fri, 08 August 2014, 03:09:52
Never used feet. I usually remove them from my keyboads.

This was totally confusing to me before E TwentyNine clarified. Glad to know I was not alone :D
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Post by: rowdy on Fri, 08 August 2014, 06:29:56
I like my keyboard's feet how I like women's feet: high up and wide apart

So you have a full size keyboard?
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Post by: G-Dubs on Fri, 08 August 2014, 08:41:30
Another one for no feet. I have this weird habit of leaning in when I type that makes it uncomfortable to use the angle that the feet offer. I am also now aware of something I didn't think about before and now I wonder if anyone else notices. :'(

 Instead of being productive at work today, I am probably just going to practice not shifting around so much when I type.
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Post by: Daspartic on Fri, 08 August 2014, 08:58:32
For me it depends on whether the keyboard is in my tray or on top of the desk.  No feet if its in the tray and feet out if it's on top of the desk.  Basically, whichever makes my wrists straighter.
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Post by: Grim Fandango on Fri, 08 August 2014, 09:11:19
For me it depends on whether the keyboard is in my tray or on top of the desk.  No feet if its in the tray and feet out if it's on top of the desk.  Basically, whichever makes my wrists straighter.

I do not have a tray, but my wrists are straighter without feet regardless of whether I have the keyboard in a high or a low position.
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Post by: Hitcha on Sat, 09 August 2014, 20:17:58
Feet down. I don't see the point in elevation.
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Post by: ckar on Sun, 10 August 2014, 09:08:36
Flat keyboards are best. It is the way it is suppose to be for comfort.

Companies should not be making keyboards with feet. They serve no purpose.
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Post by: tribade on Sun, 10 August 2014, 11:52:17
I prefer keeping the feet in.  If they're flipped out it tends to feel bad on my wrists after a few minutes.
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Post by: Novus on Sun, 10 August 2014, 15:27:30
I like to tickle my feet up and down every now and then.
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Post by: aref on Mon, 11 August 2014, 17:12:17
I extend the feet on my keyboards. I prefer the feel of all my keyboards at a slight angle.
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Post by: rush340 on Mon, 11 August 2014, 20:00:35
Feet out.  Unless it's a keyboard with short feet and long feet, then I use the shorties.
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Post by: Rafen on Mon, 11 August 2014, 20:05:34
I always type with my feet down. This give me a better angle for my wrists and then I can spend more time on my computer gaming or typing. Tried using them down when I first started and my wrists would hurt  a lot after longer gaming sessions or typing on the computer.