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geekhack Marketplace => Interest Checks => Topic started by: Krizie on Thu, 07 August 2014, 11:29:44

Title: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Krizie on Thu, 07 August 2014, 11:29:44: Welcome to yet another interest check! This is a geekhack community inspired keyset dubbed "FRiED"!
Changes are still being made and all feedback is taken into consideration so if you would like something added or modified please let me know.

This keyset supports ANSI, ISO, ErgoDox and other custom layouts.

Keyset contains up to 4 sets for you to choose.
Base
Numpad
Orange Mods
ISO
Individual blanks will be available in 1u, 1.5u and 2u for use with ErgoDox and other custom layouts along with a 7u spacebar.

Cap profile is DSA and made of double shot ABS.
ABS-GEW (Alphas)
ABS-GTA (Mods)
ABS-OAV (Orange)

Melissa at PMK has kindly put this up for an interest check.
If you are interested, please head over here and vote to make it happen!
http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/fried-keyset/

(http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/GHANSI-v2.png)
(http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/GHANSI-NUMPAD.png)
(http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/GHANSI-MODS1.png)
(http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/GHANSI-ISO.png)
(http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/GHANSI-COLS.png)
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: frosty on Thu, 07 August 2014, 17:00:59: could you include a set of keys for the red keys like esc or enter?
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Vibex on Thu, 07 August 2014, 17:05:02: Feels pretty generic, just an inverted Dolch with some red accents. Not that that is inherently a bad thing, but you will probably have trouble getting people to pick it up. Also, I would add more contrast to the legends. Particularly on the red keys. The text on them is really painful to read.
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: absyrd on Thu, 07 August 2014, 17:19:29: I've seen a bunch of ICs lately where people are highlighting the windows keys. Those are the last ones I would want sticking out. :p
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Krizie on Fri, 08 August 2014, 05:54:16: OK agreed on it being too generic!
How about something GH inspired? Or should I gracefully leave this to the pros :-X

60% Layout
(http://i.imgur.com/VcUhRmn.png?1)
ANSI 104 Layout
(http://i.imgur.com/tsZ8ISY.png?1)
Optional modifiers
(http://i.imgur.com/A0OdG7d.png?1)
ANSI 104 with all modifiers
(http://i.imgur.com/MQh4TpG.png?1)
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Data on Fri, 08 August 2014, 14:20:15: I'm not usually a fan of orange, but that looks really nice.
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Spiffmasterprime on Fri, 08 August 2014, 17:02:23: I would buy the heck out of this
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Oobly on Sat, 09 August 2014, 07:40:30: The last set in the list is quite nice. I wouldn't buy it since I have enough sets from SP now, but I do like the colourway.
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: frosty on Sat, 09 August 2014, 07:54:01: totally in for the 60%
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Krizie on Sun, 10 August 2014, 03:58:16: Happy with this being DSA or has there been too many DSA sets lately? Let me know if you think anything else needs tweaking and then I'll approach SP.
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: taylordcraig on Tue, 12 August 2014, 10:36:24: It's looking really similar to nostalgia for me.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49655.0
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 12 August 2014, 10:48:54: Quote from: taylordcraig on Tue, 12 August 2014, 10:36:24
It's looking really similar to nostalgia for me.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49655.0

dont let this put you off, i dont really agree with that statementm, nice set, i hope it does well for you
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 13 August 2014, 02:15:10: Quote from: Krizie on Fri, 08 August 2014, 05:54:16
OK agreed on it being too generic!
How about something GH inspired? Or should I gracefully leave this to the pros :-X

60% Layout
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/VcUhRmn.png?1)

ANSI 104 Layout
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/tsZ8ISY.png?1)

Optional modifiers
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/A0OdG7d.png?1)

ANSI 104 with all modifiers
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/MQh4TpG.png?1)

Gawdamn you youngsters, wanting smaller and smaller legends these days.

Nice colour-way you've got :thumb: .
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Krizie on Wed, 13 August 2014, 04:32:05: Should I make the legends bigger for those in their dotage? :p
With this being geekhack inspired its really up to the community how its going to end up looking so please keep the feedback coming if you're interested.

Nostalgia is an awesome set, I only discovered it recently after having a good browse on [Ctrl]Alt.
If you have plans of rerunning that set then let me know and ill scratch this one. After the difficulties you've had with the all too similar Decked Out buy on pmk I wouldn't want to step on the rest of your toes.
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Data on Wed, 13 August 2014, 08:26:31: It's different enough from Nostalgia that you shouldn't be too concerned. Especially this combo:

(http://i.imgur.com/tsZ8ISY.png?1)

The legends look great, and this would be a definite buy in DSA profile for me.
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: SeriouSSpotS on Sun, 17 August 2014, 13:45:52: I am loving that 60% set
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Sent on Sun, 17 August 2014, 20:31:13: Quote from: SeriouSSpotS on Sun, 17 August 2014, 13:45:52
I am loving that 60% set

Yup. Not a big orange guy but all the shades of gray make this a buy.
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Mercury7 on Sun, 17 August 2014, 21:12:50: I'm liking the original as well as the new designs. Any idea what profile you're thinking?
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sun, 17 August 2014, 21:17:47: I love it! DSA DSA DSA!!!
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Sent on Sun, 17 August 2014, 22:07:06: Quote from: Mercury7 on Sun, 17 August 2014, 21:12:50
I'm liking the original as well as the new designs. Any idea what profile you're thinking?

Quote from: ApocalypseMaow on Sun, 17 August 2014, 21:17:47
I love it! DSA DSA DSA!!!

DSA, please.

(http://i.imgur.com/Dk1ORx5.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Karura on Sun, 17 August 2014, 22:53:37: Could we get PBT?
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Krizie on Mon, 18 August 2014, 03:21:21: I submitted this to PMK on Thursday for an interest check but i've not heard anything back from them yet.

Supports ANSI and ISO as an additional option.
Keyset is compiled of 4 sets.
Base
Numpad
Orange Mods
ISO

Cap profile is DSA in double-shot ABS.
ABS-GEW (Alphas)
ABS-GTA (Mods)
ABS-OAV (Orange)
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Sent on Mon, 18 August 2014, 03:42:46: I'm definitely in for base and mods, at least. Shame about PBT. That color limitation is sad days.
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Karura on Mon, 18 August 2014, 05:04:15: Quote from: Krizie on Mon, 18 August 2014, 03:21:21
I submitted this to PMK on Thursday for an interest check but i've not heard anything back from them yet.

Supports ANSI and ISO as an additional option.
Keyset is compiled of 4 sets.
Base
Numpad
Orange Mods
ISO

Cap profile is DSA in double-shot ABS.
ABS-GEW (Alphas)
ABS-GTA (Mods)
ABS-OAV (Orange)

Not sure it would look right in PBT due to SP's limited colors, this is about as close at it gets. Thoughts?

Not bad at all. It looks kinda like a reversed dolch with orange legends.

Do you think you can do a mockup with ergodox? :D
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Data on Mon, 18 August 2014, 08:38:26: Quote from: Krizie on Mon, 18 August 2014, 03:21:21
I submitted this to PMK on Thursday for an interest check but i've not heard anything back from them yet.

Supports ANSI and ISO as an additional option.
Keyset is compiled of 4 sets.
Base
Numpad
Orange Mods
ISO

Cap profile is DSA in double-shot ABS.
ABS-GEW (Alphas)
ABS-GTA (Mods)
ABS-OAV (Orange)

Not sure it would look right in PBT due to SP's limited colors, this is about as close at it gets. Thoughts?
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/sd2ePSu.png)

SP won't do doubleshot PBT (some say they have the tooling, but they aren't offering it for keycap sets right now), so your only options are pad printing and dye sublimation.

Since dyesub only works with dark legends on light caps, it's out of the question for this colorway. That leaves you with pad printing and I don't think you want to go down that road.

Doubleshot ABS is the only real option here. PBT isn't going to work if you're using SP.
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Krizie on Mon, 18 August 2014, 09:00:13: Nope I don't think PBT is an option either so sticking with doubleshot ABS for this round.
Just thought I would add a proof of concept in the pbt colors we have to work with.

I'll have a crack at an ErgoDox shortly.
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 18 August 2014, 09:03:27: You might want to update the OP. ;)
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Krizie on Mon, 18 August 2014, 09:30:10: ErgoDox
How does this grab you?
(http://i.imgur.com/D2cWaFe.png)
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Data on Mon, 18 August 2014, 09:52:33: That's pretty good.

If you're doing this on SP (PMK), you can just offer blanks for 1u, 1.5u, and 2u in the 3 colors as child deals and people can build their own Ergodox kits to go with the alphas from the main set. Might be easier than trying to settle on a single layout. I might want two 2u orange blanks for mine, for example.
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Krizie on Mon, 18 August 2014, 09:59:54: Sounds good ill add the individual keys as an option!

EDIT: OP updated!
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Karura on Mon, 18 August 2014, 10:04:20: Looks interesting enough! Shame about the lack of PBT options. Including an additional set of enough blank keys in both orange the the grey for Ergodox users might be best for flexibility!
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 18 August 2014, 10:18:58: Might also offer 'Esc' and 'Enter' in matching colors to rest of set for those who don't want the orange base color ones (unless they already are included) and also offer '~' and "\|' in matching colors to modifiers for those who like symmetry.
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Krizie on Mon, 18 August 2014, 10:43:47: Thanks for your input, OP updated!
The base keyset will be without any of the orange modifiers and will come with the lighter [~] and [\|] keys as included extras.
Makes sense for all the orange keys to be in one pack rather than spread across multiple.

Melissa at PimpMyKeyboard has kindly put this up for an interest check.
If you are interested, please head over here and vote to make it happen!
http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/fried-keyset/
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Data on Mon, 18 August 2014, 15:09:42: (http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/GHANSI-COLS.png)

Man, I LOVE that orange. Looks great on this monitor. :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Manchias on Fri, 22 August 2014, 23:32:04: The legend too small to me ... Do you consider make it bigger ?
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sat, 23 August 2014, 07:48:17: Stoked about this kit! I should get a EgroDox...
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Supergeek on Wed, 17 September 2014, 19:37:09: From an aesthetic point of view... I hate that font. The colors are great, though.
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: telegraphist on Thu, 18 September 2014, 16:12:37: Make legends as large as possible and bold.
Make it US/Russian White/Red and PBT and I'm in.
Other vice: not interested.
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: xxghostxx on Thu, 18 September 2014, 16:18:45: i dont know guys. i bet that would look SICK on my ducky with orange backlit :D
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Data on Thu, 18 September 2014, 16:28:48: Quote from: telegraphist on Thu, 18 September 2014, 16:12:37
Make legends as large as possible and bold.
Make it US/Russian White/Red and PBT and I'm in.
Other vice: not interested.

(http://i.imgur.com/DY5WlbL.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: telegraphist on Thu, 18 September 2014, 18:09:59: Rather this, my friend:

(http://i.imgur.com/kmIGfHQ.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Data on Thu, 18 September 2014, 21:24:07: Good luck with all that.
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: rockin_munki on Fri, 19 September 2014, 10:40:58: Really loving the look of this one! Been waiting for a DSA set that's not cream or light grey. Any chance you could add an 'extra-homing' kit for those of us with alternate layouts :D
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: xCoolBeans on Sun, 21 September 2014, 12:05:16: Could you make a smallfry pack?
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Jersern on Mon, 22 September 2014, 19:43:20: About when will this be available? Really want it!
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Data on Tue, 23 September 2014, 07:56:02: If you want it, go vote for it on PMK.
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Latin00032 on Wed, 01 October 2014, 18:48:02: The legends need to be bigger and bolder!!!

It's a good looking set.
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Rotaku on Sat, 11 October 2014, 01:45:43: Any idea when this is going to be available?
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: jackalope on Sat, 11 October 2014, 02:04:08: Very interested
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: corydora on Sun, 12 October 2014, 08:04:09: Very nice - voted!
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Krizie on Tue, 14 October 2014, 05:02:28: This keyset should be available for purchase on PMK some time today/tomorrow.
The deal has been updated with all the available options and it should cater for everyones requirements.

My apologies for not getting back to this thread sooner, we've just moved house and only just got internets back!
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: rockin_munki on Tue, 14 October 2014, 10:33:11: Awesome news! Can't wait :D
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Rotaku on Tue, 14 October 2014, 11:06:38: Quote from: Krizie on Tue, 14 October 2014, 05:02:28
This keyset should be available for purchase on PMK some time today/tomorrow.
The deal has been updated with all the available options and it should cater for everyones requirements.

My apologies for not getting back to this thread sooner, we've just moved house and only just got internets back!
Do you know what the prices are going to be at?
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Rebral on Thu, 16 October 2014, 01:27:27: You had me at black and orange. Voted!
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: tyvar1 on Thu, 16 October 2014, 02:12:24: Voted :D
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: defektus on Fri, 17 October 2014, 09:52:34: Voted +1
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: renne on Mon, 20 October 2014, 15:41:34: It's on right now. http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/fried-keyset/ (http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/fried-keyset/)
But could you design a Tsangan kit for winkeyless users?
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Data on Tue, 21 October 2014, 16:37:43: I'm glad this is available on PMK, finally.

Does the mock-up on PMK accurately reflect the size and font style of the legends we should expect with FRiED?
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: MiTo on Tue, 21 October 2014, 16:57:36: Quote from: Data on Tue, 21 October 2014, 16:37:43
I'm glad this is available on PMK, finally.

Does the mock-up on PMK accurately reflect the size and font style of the legends we should expect with FRiED?

I'm talking with Krizie about that, this is something he's looking into.

Expect more details soon.
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Data on Tue, 21 October 2014, 17:06:42: OK, cool.
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Krizie on Wed, 22 October 2014, 04:29:02: Im waiting to hear back from Melissa regarding any variations they'll need to take from the designs I provided, font or otherwise. Shall keep you informed as and when I receive updates.
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: renne on Wed, 22 October 2014, 04:37:49: Quote from: Krizie on Wed, 22 October 2014, 04:29:02
Im waiting to hear back from Melissa regarding any variations they'll need to take from the designs I provided, font or otherwise. Shall keep you informed as and when I receive updates.
Maybe you should go to Group Buy section and create a new thread. ;)
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Data on Wed, 22 October 2014, 08:23:30: Quote from: Krizie on Wed, 22 October 2014, 04:29:02
Im waiting to hear back from Melissa regarding any variations they'll need to take from the designs I provided, font or otherwise. Shall keep you informed as and when I receive updates.

Just for the record, I wasn't asking you to change anything. Just wanted to be sure the mock-up matched the final design of the key caps, within reason. I don't think I've seen that font used before.
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: MiTo on Wed, 22 October 2014, 11:56:33: Quote from: Data on Wed, 22 October 2014, 08:23:30
Just for the record, I wasn't asking you to change anything. Just wanted to be sure the mock-up matched the final design of the key caps, within reason. I don't think I've seen that font used before.

Me neither, but I believe that Fried is another typical example of a keyset that manages to become a group buy, because it looks very good, but has some issues with the legends/presentation. I'm not sure if Krizie was intended to run Fried with this custom font or if this font is from some sort of layout generator.

Apollo GT10 and Lunar are the most recent ones in the same situation.

However, we've got plenty of time to fix any mistakes (if there are any, maybe Fried is meant to be what is being advertised on the mockups).

Let's hope for the best and make sure everything tips.
Title: Re: [IC] FRiED Keyset
Post by: Krizie on Thu, 23 October 2014, 04:48:53: Updates regarding the FRiED keyset should now be directed to the GroupBuy thread here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=64516.0).

Many thanks!