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Title: White hhkb case/body yellowing? [Solved]
Post by: slickmamba on Sat, 09 August 2014, 20:22:33
Hey guys, I'd like to get my first hhkb, and want to get a white base with black mods+esc+~, but have seen some with significant yellowing.  How long does it usually take to fade?  Or is it just the white balance on the pictures?


SOLVED
Dustinhxc's whitening using the retr0brite method http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61502.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61502.0)

retr0brite: http://retr0bright.wikispaces.com/ (http://retr0bright.wikispaces.com/)
Title: Re: White hhkb case/body fading?
Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 09 August 2014, 20:41:07
Can you post some pictures of what you mean?
Title: Re: White hhkb case/body yellowing?
Post by: slickmamba on Sat, 09 August 2014, 20:51:58
not a very good pic... (http://i.ytimg.com/vi/AWUNzAV-geA/hqdefault.jpg)

It very well may just be a lighting thing.  I'll keep looking for examples
Title: Re: White hhkb case/body yellowing?
Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 09 August 2014, 21:09:43
Ah yellowing, you said fading and I was confused as to how a white case could really fade.

I think yellowing happens due to exposure to the sun, over a long time. I have only really seen yellowed HHKB and HHKB Pro1 (Which are both quite old) so I would assume this would take quite some time, especially if your keyboard isn't in the sun at all times. I think ABS will yellow while PBT will not yellow, so as long as the case material has not changed, the pro 2 will eventually yellow.
Title: Re: White hhkb case/body yellowing?
Post by: slickmamba on Sat, 09 August 2014, 21:12:36
Ah yellowing, you said fading and I was confused as to how a white case could really fade.

I think yellowing happens due to exposure to the sun, over a long time. I have only really seen yellowed HHKB and HHKB Pro1 (Which are both quite old) so I would assume this would take quite some time, especially if your keyboard isn't in the sun at all times. I think ABS will yellow while PBT will not yellow, so as long as the case material has not changed, the pro 2 will eventually yellow.

Haha, sorry I'm very tired and did a sneaky edit.  I realized my mistake =/.  I expected it was sun exposure, hmm, maybe a sunscreen layer will help :) hahaha
Title: Re: White hhkb case/body yellowing?
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 09 August 2014, 21:13:27
or being in a basement

 :))
Title: Re: White hhkb case/body yellowing?
Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 09 August 2014, 21:20:17
I think you can get film to put on your windows that will block UV light, although I am not sure how well that actually works.
Title: Re: White hhkb case/body yellowing?
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 09 August 2014, 21:21:46
They use it in most NYC skyscrapers, so it must be pretty good
Title: Re: White hhkb case/body yellowing?
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 09 August 2014, 21:23:18
I have not seen (pictures of) many HHKB 2 that are yellowed.

I got mine secondhand just over a year ago, and it does not show any yellowing at all.  I don't know exactly how it was used or stored before I got it, but it was made in Feb-2011, so about 3.5 years old now.
Title: Re: White hhkb case/body yellowing?
Post by: slickmamba on Sat, 09 August 2014, 21:29:08
I have not seen (pictures of) many HHKB 2 that are yellowed.

I got mine secondhand just over a year ago, and it does not show any yellowing at all.  I don't know exactly how it was used or stored before I got it, but it was made in Feb-2011, so about 3.5 years old now.

Haha, that is reassuring.  Now to find a good color scheme for the hhkb.  Maybe something like Joanne's http://www.flickr.com/photos/98431455@N03/11840974093/in/photostream/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/98431455@N03/11840974093/in/photostream/)
Title: Re: White hhkb case/body yellowing?
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 09 August 2014, 21:33:19
I have not seen (pictures of) many HHKB 2 that are yellowed.

I got mine secondhand just over a year ago, and it does not show any yellowing at all.  I don't know exactly how it was used or stored before I got it, but it was made in Feb-2011, so about 3.5 years old now.

Haha, that is reassuring.  Now to find a good color scheme for the hhkb.  Maybe something like Joanne's http://www.flickr.com/photos/98431455@N03/11840974093/in/photostream/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/98431455@N03/11840974093/in/photostream/)

Have a look through the post your topre board (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40658.0) for some inspiration :)
Title: Re: White hhkb case/body yellowing?
Post by: salcan on Sat, 09 August 2014, 21:35:54
Yeah, it's a thing. http://retr0bright.wikispaces.com/ works I've heard. also there was a link on imgur about a restore hhkb that was yellowed. just saw it in the last few days, it was an epic job. can't find the link but will update if i do!
Title: Re: White hhkb case/body yellowing?
Post by: cphead on Sat, 09 August 2014, 21:37:27
I have not seen (pictures of) many HHKB 2 that are yellowed.

I got mine secondhand just over a year ago, and it does not show any yellowing at all.  I don't know exactly how it was used or stored before I got it, but it was made in Feb-2011, so about 3.5 years old now.

Haha, that is reassuring.  Now to find a good color scheme for the hhkb.  Maybe something like Joanne's http://www.flickr.com/photos/98431455@N03/11840974093/in/photostream/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/98431455@N03/11840974093/in/photostream/)

Have a look through the post your topre board (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40658.0) for some inspiration :)

Sadly colored blanks are nigh impossible to find nowadays ... :'(
Title: Re: White hhkb case/body yellowing?
Post by: slickmamba on Sat, 09 August 2014, 21:39:24
I have not seen (pictures of) many HHKB 2 that are yellowed.

I got mine secondhand just over a year ago, and it does not show any yellowing at all.  I don't know exactly how it was used or stored before I got it, but it was made in Feb-2011, so about 3.5 years old now.

Haha, that is reassuring.  Now to find a good color scheme for the hhkb.  Maybe something like Joanne's http://www.flickr.com/photos/98431455@N03/11840974093/in/photostream/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/98431455@N03/11840974093/in/photostream/)

Have a look through the post your topre board (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40658.0) for some inspiration :)

Haha rowdy, you are awesome.  Always have everything I am looking for!
Title: Re: White hhkb case/body yellowing?
Post by: dustinhxc on Sat, 09 August 2014, 21:48:13
Yeah, it's a thing. http://retr0bright.wikispaces.com/ works I've heard. also there was a link on imgur about a restore hhkb that was yellowed. just saw it in the last few days, it was an epic job. can't find the link but will update if i do!

Would it happen to of been mine? :)

Check out my thread!

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61502.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61502.0)

I'd say 6 years + yellowing? Mine is 11 years old. Used peroxide 40 Volume and sunlight on the case.
Title: Re: White hhkb case/body yellowing?
Post by: salcan on Sat, 09 August 2014, 22:01:36
Yeah, it's a thing. http://retr0bright.wikispaces.com/ works I've heard. also there was a link on imgur about a restore hhkb that was yellowed. just saw it in the last few days, it was an epic job. can't find the link but will update if i do!

Would it happen to of been mine? :)

Check out my thread!

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61502.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61502.0)

I'd say 6 years + yellowing? Mine is 11 years old. Used peroxide 40 Volume and sunlight on the case.

Confirmed! My wife walked in and I was googling around for "salon whitening HHKB" or something like that. Took some explaining.

Awesome work.
Title: Re: White hhkb case/body yellowing?
Post by: slickmamba on Sat, 09 August 2014, 22:03:32
Thanks guys!  Problem solved :) now to post in classified to find one.  Can't afford new on a teacher salary
Title: Re: White hhkb case/body yellowing?
Post by: slickmamba on Sat, 09 August 2014, 22:04:05
Is there a DIY post on this yet? if not, you gotta put one up Dustin!
Title: Re: White hhkb case/body yellowing? [Solved]
Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 10 August 2014, 07:53:52
Is there a DIY post on this yet? if not, you gotta put one up Dustin!

The original:
http://retr0bright.wikispaces.com/

some GH posts on it:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56542.msg1277171#msg1277171
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=19644.0 (lots of tips in the messages about the process and safety)
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=20283.msg394657#msg394657 (sadly pictures were lost)
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=22903.msg433022#msg433022
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36719.msg699208#msg699208
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38176.msg735915#msg735915

I have not seen (pictures of) many HHKB 2 that are yellowed.

I got mine secondhand just over a year ago, and it does not show any yellowing at all.  I don't know exactly how it was used or stored before I got it, but it was made in Feb-2011, so about 3.5 years old now.

Most aren't old enough, but there are lots of HHKB (the original) that are.

Here's some pictures of Hasu's
(http://i.imgur.com/T0h1O.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/F5wntEJ.jpg)

and how can i forget: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40658.msg809013#msg809013
Title: Re: White hhkb case/body yellowing? [Solved]
Post by: Grim Fandango on Sun, 10 August 2014, 08:03:20
This has always been an issue for me with white or beige ABS cases.

On the one hand , I think a white case can look very cool. On the other, both at home and at work, my keyboards sit close a window. That means that there is sun on the thing every single day. It probably would not take very long to yellow unless I cover it.
Title: Re: White hhkb case/body yellowing?
Post by: dustinhxc on Sun, 10 August 2014, 09:07:25
Is there a DIY post on this yet? if not, you gotta put one up Dustin!

He posted those links but also in mine I posted a couple photos of the process. It's not to hard  :)

Yeah, it's a thing. http://retr0bright.wikispaces.com/ works I've heard. also there was a link on imgur about a restore hhkb that was yellowed. just saw it in the last few days, it was an epic job. can't find the link but will update if i do!

Would it happen to of been mine? :)

Check out my thread!

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61502.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61502.0)

I'd say 6 years + yellowing? Mine is 11 years old. Used peroxide 40 Volume and sunlight on the case.

Confirmed! My wife walked in and I was googling around for "salon whitening HHKB" or something like that. Took some explaining.

Awesome work.

That's Awesome! Hehe ;) thank you!