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geekhack Community => Keyboards => Topic started by: Novus on Mon, 11 August 2014, 16:27:24
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How biased are you when you compare/review keyboards and what brand do you place on a pedestal without merit?
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How many keyboards have you unjustly recommended because you jumped on the hype train, liked it but didn't bother to try anything else/compare it with a similar product?
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GMK double shots and stock clear mx can't go wrong
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Zero.
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All of my keyboard recommendations are based on research and reading multiple professional and user reviews. I also recommend boards that I've bought and liked, and recommend against boards I've bought and disliked (rosewill).
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This doesn't seem very different from the thread you started a minute earlier:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61662
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I TRY not to be bias, but I am human. :)
I probably tend to push Filco as a brand more than I should because I have never had a problem with mine and it has been my daily driver for over 2 years.
I probably trash Cooler Master more than I should because I bought a QFR and I have had nothing but problems with it. I ended up just cannibalizing everything from it because I was too annoyed to mess with it anymore...
To give you an idea of where I am Bias...
LOVE:
SA Keycaps
Thick PBT Keycaps
Filco TKL
Sprit PCBs
MX Brown
MX Clear (~62-68g)
FC660 Layout
BroBots
PRETTY GOOD:
Topre
75% Layout
TKL Layout
HAVENT TRIED:
GMK Keycaps (on order)
GON PCBs
Any Korean builds
Buckling Spring
Alps
MEH:
Tai Hao Keycaps (good for the price, but I have better options now)
Banggood PBT (good for the price, but I have better options now)
Anything from SP thats not SA (I don't see the point)
MX Red (linear is not my thing)
MX Black
MX Blue (hate the click reset issue)
Keyboards smaller than 75% without dedicated arrow keys (need dem arrow keys)
110% Layout (too big for me)
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applejuice
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How biased are you when you compare/review keyboards and what brand do you place on a pedestal without merit?
Fairly easy
The more the publicity, the less likely the device is worth as advertised. Advertising is the fundamental bet that your product is so ****ty you will not be able to meet minimum profit revenu, therefore you spend more to attract people into buying your item, aka create "the need" or "the want". Also, it floods the market, and "the cult" can't all be wrong, right? Also, companies that are in multiple fields are usually bad at multiple fields. I'd rather get a keyboard from a company that makes keyboards only now-a-day.
Therefore Razer, Corsair, Roccat, CoolerMaster or any other big e-sports sponsors are always at my bottom. I will still judge impartially when it comes to test these devices, but usually i already know what i'm in for.
Look at Razer; some e-sports player "speaking words of wisdom" on their product page, e-mails for 1337 PACKAGE IF YOU ORDER ABOVE 200$ IN LESS THAN 20 MINUTES, Runes in league of legends... flashy random colors on your devices... Razer is the number one device maker that want to flood the market and over publicise as much as possible, they give you stickers with every purchase, stick them to your stuff, it's a "cool" brand.
Companies that i've never heard of usually tend to shine a little more later on because their products are worth the shot. Best example is KBC, i've had this Poker II for a year and 3 months now, i simply love it, always worked flawlessly and guess what, i am not alone sharing this opinion. For the fourth time, the Poker II appears on Massdrop. That's a company that never ever did anything to advertise it's product as far as i know, yet got reknown simply because it's products are a fair trade.
But still, i am biased cause there are some that i appreciate in them. I like Steelseries a lot just because their devices are "classic" (read, swag), and i've been using them since a lot of time. They are pretty silent tough, no junk e-mails or random ads. Even at e-sports events.
I am totally biased by my many years of experience with multiple computers systems, debugging, repairing, and gaming. But bad sh1ts make good stories, right?
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very
which is why i say "personally" or "I think" all the time
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I do not try to be objective.
But I am pretty good at finding out the things I like and dislike. I do not fall in love with everything I buy or try to justify my purchase. I send things back to the shops all the time.
Even my current Topre keyboards. I really like them, but would I recommend them? I don't know. The price to me, no matter how I look at it, is pretty ridiculous. I know I have paid it myself but that does not mean that I think everyone else should.
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Isn't a review just a summary of your different biases? I mean if reviews were truly objective wouldn't they just be hard numbers on spreadsheets?
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This doesn't seem very different from the thread you started a minute earlier:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61662
Its completely different though.
Bias does not eqate to jumping on the hype train.
There are distinctions and this really should not have been merged.
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I do not try to be objective.
But I am pretty good at finding out the things I like and dislike. I do not fall in love with everything I buy or try to justify my purchase. I send things back to the shops all the time.
Even my current Topre keyboards. I really like them, but would I recommend them? I don't know. The price to me, no matter how I look at it, is pretty ridiculous. I know I have paid it myself but that does not mean that I think everyone else should.
Haha. Ya I intentionally put topre in my likes category instead of my loves category because I don't know that the price is justified.
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I am a little bias against Topre, but you people made me that way.
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Blasphemy! !
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I never recommended them but I jumped on the custom Koreans hype train and never got off. Now, I can't tell if I actually love these boards the most or if it's because I've been on that hype for so long. :)) But, no, I'm happy with 'em.
I got swept up in the GMK caps as well but now they're all I look for.
I am a little bias against Topre, but you people made me that way.
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I am likely the LEAST-Biased Keyboard user alive...
If it works... I'll tell you it works... If it doesn't work... I don't care if it cost you $600... I'll tell you straight up you're stupid and have wasted your money...
Tp4 is Objective+++
Ergodox 4-3\/3r
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hhkb
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I am a little bias against Topre, but you people made me that way.
I definitely get what you are saying. With the prices, and the over the top Topre lovers out there, I was pretty skeptical about the whole Topre thing. What led me to buy a Topre keyboard eventually was simply the need to have a keyboard that was much quieter than Cherry MX's, and the fact that I got a pretty decent deal on one. When I got to try it, I liked it. But even despite liking it I find the prices on these keyboards a little out there.
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Quite
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I like how many people in this thread are only talking for or against things that are only within the Cherry MX corner of the mechanicals universe.
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Carrots
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I haven't tried enough different keyboards of the same switch type/price to be biased yet. Not saying I never will be though :-*