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Title: Name this board...
Post by: o2dazone on Wed, 10 June 2009, 21:28:41
It's got the shape of a Realforce (without the top area or the arrows, etc), but the comments mention MX (Cherry?) and it's got a Filco keycap. Anyone know?

(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/7905/437457y.jpg)

from KbdMania.net (http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/582362)

Horribly translated page (http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=en&js=n&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kbdmania.net%2Fxe%2F582362&sl=ko&tl=en&history_state0=)
Title: Name this board...
Post by: huha on Wed, 10 June 2009, 21:44:00
It looks like a standard controller, so most likely no capacitive matrix scanning going on there. I'd suspect MX switches then.

edit: Okay. You can clearly see the PCB was cut off, and the switches are of the plate-mounted variety (no jumper wires there). The strain relief looks suspiciously Filco-ish, so I suspect it's a filco with most of the stuff cut off.

-huha
Title: Name this board...
Post by: majestouch on Wed, 10 June 2009, 21:51:36
My best guess is that it is a very HIGHLY modded FILCO FKB104xxxx or FKBN104xxxx due to the position of the cable coming in.
Title: Name this board...
Post by: watduzhkstand4 on Wed, 10 June 2009, 22:38:51
that board looks sick. I thought it was a Filco at first or a Topre.
Title: Name this board...
Post by: wheel83 on Wed, 10 June 2009, 22:41:42
they dont eff around in japan thats for sure.  that kbdmania.net is a ****house of quality mods lol
Title: Name this board...
Post by: chimera15 on Wed, 10 June 2009, 22:57:15
Yeah, beautiful board.  Dreamboard for a lot of us here I would expect.  They figured out the color coded, no printed key number keys as well that's lost on hhk's.  You can actually figure out what number you're pressing if you need to for passwords, but still look cool. lol  I wish it was more muted colors, but still really great layout.
Title: Name this board...
Post by: huha on Wed, 10 June 2009, 23:34:52
Quote from: wheel83;95357
they dont eff around in japan thats for sure.  that kbdmania.net is a ****house of quality mods lol


Korea.

-huha
Title: Name this board...
Post by: lowpoly on Thu, 11 June 2009, 12:08:42
Good work on the case as well.
Title: Name this board...
Post by: o2dazone on Thu, 11 June 2009, 12:31:39
On the right hand side you can see a very very light line there where they took the "cheek" of the board and glued it. Could be just the photo but yeah, impressive. I love the jumper lines on the circuit board, so neat and clean...
Title: Name this board...
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 11 June 2009, 12:45:36
I wouldn't mind getting a tenkeyless Filco, but what I realized is there is no numpad function at all unlike the IBM minis.  It's a shame, because I really need the numpad at work.
Title: Name this board...
Post by: majestouch on Thu, 11 June 2009, 12:52:09
Quote from: itlnstln;95487
I wouldn't mind getting a tenkeyless Filco, but what I realized is there is no numpad function at all unlike the IBM minis.  It's a shame, because I really need the numpad at work.


Autohotkey? Someone sent me a script to do just that a couple weeks ago.
Title: Name this board...
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 11 June 2009, 13:28:17
Quote from: majestouch;95490
Autohotkey? Someone sent me a script to do just that a couple weeks ago.

That would require work.  For that, I would just rather have the full-blown numpad.
Title: Name this board...
Post by: sixty on Thu, 11 June 2009, 13:32:59
The controller used on this board is the LIMKB (Less is more Keyboard Controller) which was developed by the guys over at OTD (http://www.otd.kr/bbs/board.php?bo_table=pj_LIMKB) and is pretty popular for all Korean Keyboard mods.

That controller also offers various custom features including macros and custom modifier/fn keys. So this board here might aswell have a virtual numpad!

If required I can ask a Korean friend later what exactly the post says, even though there doesn't seem to be much info in it.
Title: Name this board...
Post by: huha on Thu, 11 June 2009, 15:02:39
The keyboard uses a LIMKB. Should be a quite decent controller, I'm currently only lacking the oscillator to try it out, which should arrive in a few days.

-huha
Title: Name this board...
Post by: talis on Thu, 11 June 2009, 15:08:18
Quote from: huha;95533
The keyboard uses a LIMKB. Should be a quite decent controller, I'm currently only lacking the oscillator to try it out, which should arrive in a few days.

-huha


What Microcontroller does it use? Looks like a PIC16F or PIC18 series.
Title: Re: Name this board...
Post by: bsvP585hUO2Y6 on Thu, 11 June 2009, 15:22:15
talis writes:

> What Microcontroller does it use? Looks like a PIC16F or PIC18 series.

It's an atmega32.  Here's a proper picture of it:
http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/582395

regards,
andreas
Title: Name this board...
Post by: talis on Thu, 11 June 2009, 15:30:44
Ah thanks, much easier to see in that picture.  The blob in the others sort of looked like the Microchip M logo.
Title: Name this board...
Post by: IBI on Thu, 11 June 2009, 15:33:57
Quote from: ripster;95485
Where'd Majestouch go?  Just tell Filco to build one willya?  The market needs a good quality mini board with a good arrow layout.


Preferably after they start building the European versions.

Quote from: itlnstln;95487
I wouldn't mind getting a tenkeyless Filco, but what I realized is there is no numpad function at all unlike the IBM minis.  It's a shame, because I really need the numpad at work.


On the other hand it does mean there's no poxy hardware programmed FN key that can't be used for anything and takes up prime real estate. I'd just go for an autohotkey script, just making a numpad won't take much work, especially if you only need the numbers and not the numlock off functions.