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Title: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: appleonama on Tue, 26 August 2014, 12:32:05
Okay I am having an issue that is seriously bugging me.
I have been a long time mac user almost about 6 years and currently own a rmpb 13 & 15.
I believe I have become too accustom to touch typing with the mac chicklet keyboard. I do about 65wpm.

This year I built my own computer rig in February.https://pcpartpicker.com/b/W4K8TW
Along with that rig I bought a poseidon mx brown.
However when I tried typing on my poseidon with mx brown I can't type as great as on the chicklet. I average about 45-55wpm.

I recently bought a race 2 with browns and I do just the same with as I did with the poseidon.
I also got poker 2 with blues but god I am horrible on the blues. I do about 45wpm.
I been practicing but this is getting crazy I can't improve.

What do you guys use to practice? Am I screwed?will I never get use to my mechs? this is making me sad.

EDIT: I just tried on a HP KU0841 membrane keyboard and I did 54 wpm HAHAHA  :'(
Title: Re: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: Lastpilot on Tue, 26 August 2014, 12:33:46
Who cares man, mechanical life is not about WPM, it's about enjoying your desktop experience. It's about keyboard sights, sounds and switch feel!

Chiclet will always be faster because of the reduced travel, but it will never replace the experience of typing on cherry switches.
Title: Re: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 26 August 2014, 12:35:58
Moral of the story: use PCs more than Macs.   :p

jk, I won't tell you how to live your life...
Title: Re: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: slip84 on Tue, 26 August 2014, 12:37:29
I probably type just as fast on my aluminum bluetooth keyboard as I do on my mechs. I don't care. Like Lastpilot said, I'm doing these because I spend a lot of time on a computer and I like mech boards from a hobby standpoint and a feel standpoint. I never thought I would pick up extra words per minute.

Also, if you're losing some, it's probably partially from familiarity and the throw on the keys. Maybe try some o-rings on your boards?
Title: Re: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: JinDesu on Tue, 26 August 2014, 12:38:02
It just takes time for your fingers to get used to the higher key profiles and the tactile response.
Title: Re: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: appleonama on Tue, 26 August 2014, 12:38:57
Who cares man, mechanical life is not about WPM, it's about enjoying your desktop experience. It's about keyboard sights, sounds and switch feel!

However I would like to be a fast typer on my mech as I am on the mac keyboard.
The Mechs are great and they feel great its a dream to type on however I don't like the fact that I keep messing up.
This isn't good for me I just bought another poker 2 with browns and I bought 2 aluminum cases red/silver for them + granite keys.  :'(
Title: Re: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: appleonama on Tue, 26 August 2014, 12:41:48
Moral of the story: use PCs more than Macs.   :p

jk, I won't tell you how to live your life...

Well I use my rig more than my mac and I still haven't gotten accustom to the higher keys and tactile bumps.
I even plan on selling my 15rmbp mac for another 780ti since I don't use it anymore.
Title: Re: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: Lastpilot on Tue, 26 August 2014, 12:44:57
I probably type just as fast on my aluminum bluetooth keyboard as I do on my mechs. I don't care. Like Lastpilot said, I'm doing these because I spend a lot of time on a computer and I like mech boards from a hobby standpoint and a feel standpoint. I never thought I would pick up extra words per minute.

Also, if you're losing some, it's probably partially from familiarity and the throw on the keys. Maybe try some o-rings on your boards?

Yeah, I've tried o-rings before and they definitely get you into the rubber-dome-travel realm. If WPM is an issue you may want to try that out. Just know that most people I know who have purchased o-rings no longer use them, mainly because of just that; it sort of makes the cherry experience into a rubber-dome experience.
Title: Re: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: slip84 on Tue, 26 August 2014, 12:47:39
I probably type just as fast on my aluminum bluetooth keyboard as I do on my mechs. I don't care. Like Lastpilot said, I'm doing these because I spend a lot of time on a computer and I like mech boards from a hobby standpoint and a feel standpoint. I never thought I would pick up extra words per minute.

Also, if you're losing some, it's probably partially from familiarity and the throw on the keys. Maybe try some o-rings on your boards?

Yeah, I've tried o-rings before and they definitely get you into the rubber-dome-travel realm. If WPM is an issue you may want to try that out. Just know that most people I know who have purchased o-rings no longer use them, mainly because of just that; it sort of makes the cherry experience into a rubber-dome experience.
Oh, I know it. I did o-rings on a Das Ultimate S with browns for a hot second and decided that they were not for me. Didn't feel right. Figured it might help the OP, though. The only place I have kept o-rings is on my Poker II with blacks on my aluminum space bar. Reduces the sound a bit and doesn't trade too much feel since it's a space bar.
Title: Re: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: D01 on Tue, 26 August 2014, 12:58:39
Sounds like your just stuck around 50-60 wpm at the moment.  Soon enough, with practice, you will be doing 65 on anything and think it's easy.  Then after more practice you'll be in the 70's and think 60 was slow.  This just continues.
Title: Re: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: demik on Tue, 26 August 2014, 13:05:00
Everybody knows you type faster with topre/hhkb
Title: Re: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: Halverson on Tue, 26 August 2014, 13:10:37

Everybody knows you type faster with topre/hhkb

#truth
Title: Re: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: Lastpilot on Tue, 26 August 2014, 14:14:35
Oh, I know it. I did o-rings on a Das Ultimate S with browns for a hot second and decided that they were not for me. Didn't feel right. Figured it might help the OP, though. The only place I have kept o-rings is on my Poker II with blacks on my aluminum space bar. Reduces the sound a bit and doesn't trade too much feel since it's a space bar.

Sorry I wasn't clear, I meant for my message to be agreeing with you but aimed towards OP in that he should consider o-rings. :]
Ohhh~ and I didn't think of just keeping them on the spacebar, I might try that next time to keep it a bit more quiet.
Title: Re: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: Hundrakia on Tue, 26 August 2014, 14:23:54
If you start slowly with minimal force to actuation, followed by lifting off immediately, you can reduce your travel without o rings, relax your fingers and hands (and increase accuracy IMO).
Title: Re: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: Grim Fandango on Tue, 26 August 2014, 14:28:41
It seems likely that you are more used to whatever keyboard you have been using for years. As you use a peripheral for a long time, you acquire the muscle memory and overall familiarity with it that allows you to use it with ease.

Some of that might be what is happening here.

I would not worry about it, and like others have said, using a mechanical keyboard is not about making you a faster typist as some incorrectly assume. Just use something that feels good and satisfying to use, and I have little doubt you will be up to regular typing speeds in no time.
Title: Re: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: Lu_e on Tue, 26 August 2014, 14:58:13
Chiclet will always be faster because of the reduced travel...

Why does someone not break the world record in typing with one then?
Title: Re: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: osi on Tue, 26 August 2014, 15:08:36
Shouldn't let the wpm bother you. Eventually you'll get accustomed to the higher profile keys.

Besides--no is ever typing at their 'max' wpm everytime they are laying down strokes :thumb:
Title: Re: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: demik on Tue, 26 August 2014, 15:53:37
Shouldn't let the wpm bother you. Eventually you'll get accustomed to the higher profile keys.

Besides--no is ever typing at their 'max' wpm everytime they are laying down strokes :thumb:

Linkbane is. But then again he has nothing better to do since he irritates everybody.
Title: Re: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: appleonama on Tue, 26 August 2014, 16:21:01
I just spent more $$$ on another poker2 with browns and 2 aluminum cases.
I won't let wpm get to me , but I do want to improve. If I don't I will give my mechs away  :p


Jk
Title: Re: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: noisyturtle on Tue, 26 August 2014, 16:23:13
Is it just a coincidence your name backwards is 'amanoelppa?'
I think not!
Title: Re: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: HardCelery on Tue, 26 August 2014, 16:49:33
Stop buying so many keyboards if WPM is so important to you. It's easier to stick with one board and get used to it's feel, so of course you type better on the macbook currently.
Title: Re: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: appleonama on Tue, 26 August 2014, 19:32:37
I'm buying keyboards because they're cool and I been practicing I got about 55-60wpm with blues!  :thumb: the problem was hand positioning I guess my hands need to be more extended because I use my mac about arms length away. :cool:
Title: Re: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: user 18 on Tue, 26 August 2014, 19:37:48
I type around 80-85 wpm on my mech boards, no matter which board switch it is (MX or buckling spring). I type around 10wpm faster on the rubber dome I used for almost half my life. It's all based on what you're used to. I much prefer the experience of using the mech boards though. I find I can type for longer without feeling fatigued, and I enjoy using the computer much more than I did with even a nice rubber dome.
Title: Re: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: osi on Tue, 26 August 2014, 19:58:38
Shouldn't let the wpm bother you. Eventually you'll get accustomed to the higher profile keys.

Besides--no is ever typing at their 'max' wpm everytime they are laying down strokes :thumb:

Linkbane is. But then again he has nothing better to do since he irritates everybody.

I imagine that talented fellow is approaching 200 wpm by now
Title: Re: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: Belfong on Tue, 26 August 2014, 20:06:46
I think you need some artisan caps on your keyboard. When you have a few skulls or BroBots staring at you, you gotta hurry up and type or they will eat you!
Title: Re: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 26 August 2014, 20:46:10
While I think a lower strike distance is preferable to speedn'.   It's still not as important as how fast you can mentally parse..
Title: Re: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: appleonama on Tue, 26 August 2014, 20:54:56
I type around 80-85 wpm on my mech boards, no matter which board switch it is (MX or buckling spring). I type around 10wpm faster on the rubber dome I used for almost half my life. It's all based on what you're used to. I much prefer the experience of using the mech boards though. I find I can type for longer without feeling fatigued, and I enjoy using the computer much more than I did with even a nice rubber dome.

This
I never knew how great a keyboard could feel I greatly enjoy my browsing experience and productivity. I already upgraded to two 1440p and a great mouse zowei fk1 all I needed was an awesome keyboard.
I know I'm not the fastest typer but I want to be around 70-80 wpm with any keyboard.
Title: Re: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: appleonama on Tue, 26 August 2014, 20:56:14
I think you need some artisan caps on your keyboard. When you have a few skulls or BroBots staring at you, you gotta hurry up and type or they will eat you!
Don't worry I'll have some artisan caps soon when they go on sale by a maker. I overslept for the KBK sale. :(
Title: Re: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: jterp7 on Tue, 26 August 2014, 21:26:21
I type around 80-85 wpm on my mech boards, no matter which board switch it is (MX or buckling spring). I type around 10wpm faster on the rubber dome I used for almost half my life. It's all based on what you're used to. I much prefer the experience of using the mech boards though. I find I can type for longer without feeling fatigued, and I enjoy using the computer much more than I did with even a nice rubber dome.

This
I never knew how great a keyboard could feel I greatly enjoy my browsing experience and productivity. I already upgraded to two 1440p and a great mouse zowei fk1 all I needed was an awesome keyboard.
I know I'm not the fastest typer but I want to be around 70-80 wpm with any keyboard.

confession, the number below was done on the POS dell kb at work. I think I'm around 80wpm on my browns/clears.

edit: just ran the same test...at 90 with a bunch of errors, must be because I'm used to it now, I'd say still 10% slower than membrane/chiclet.
Title: Re: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: Grim Fandango on Wed, 27 August 2014, 03:28:31
Hmm, my experiences seem to be quite different from other people here. It seems that I type equally fast/slow regardless of the keyboard I use (given a little time to get used to it). I have tried 10fastfingers multiple times per keyboard on rubber dome, cherry MX brown, Matias alps, and topre (45g and variable) and with every keyboard I am between 70 and 80 somewhere. With a spike above 80 every once in a wile, and sometimes below 70 if there are words with a lot of V's and B's in it  :-X. My accuracy also stays similar, it is close to 100% with almost no misspelled words.
Title: Re: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: Hundrakia on Wed, 27 August 2014, 10:36:28
From chiclet to poker II I was able to increase my wpm by any 20, and my accuracy by about 1%
Title: Re: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: microsoft windows on Wed, 27 August 2014, 10:46:50
You need to throw away the Macbook. It's a piece of junk. Get a Windows laptop and your typing experience will be worlds better.

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Title: Re: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: appleonama on Wed, 27 August 2014, 11:08:46
You need to throw away the Macbook. It's a piece of junk. Get a Windows laptop and your typing experience will be worlds better.

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I enjoy my over priced piece of junk  :cool:. Its just the same concept as buying a mech keyboard whats wrong with a normal 5$ membrane keyboard. the same can be done  :p but we still buy it
Title: Re: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: microsoft windows on Wed, 27 August 2014, 11:15:13
You need to throw away the Macbook. It's a piece of junk. Get a Windows laptop and your typing experience will be worlds better.

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I enjoy my over priced piece of junk  :cool:. Its just the same concept as buying a mech keyboard whats wrong with a normal 5$ membrane keyboard. the same can be done  :p but we still buy it

At least the mechanical keyboards are better quality than most rubber domes. But that is not the case wih CRAPPLE Macintrash products.
Title: Re: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: appleonama on Wed, 27 August 2014, 11:24:29
You need to throw away the Macbook. It's a piece of junk. Get a Windows laptop and your typing experience will be worlds better.

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I enjoy my over priced piece of junk  :cool:. Its just the same concept as buying a mech keyboard whats wrong with a normal 5$ membrane keyboard. the same can be done  :p but we still buy it

At least the mechanical keyboards are better quality than most rubber domes. But that is not the case wih CRAPPLE Macintrash products.
To each their own   :D
Like some people on this forum with some strange keycaps combos on their mechs
Title: Re: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: mikesgordon on Fri, 29 August 2014, 15:43:20
Sounds like you need to quit whining and start doing typing drills. 65 is p slow btw
Title: Re: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: Novus on Fri, 29 August 2014, 17:21:03
You bring dishonor into the clackhood.
Desolder your switches and break your pcb immediately.
Title: Re: I can type faster on a macbook keyboard than with my mechs :'(
Post by: appleonama on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:20:18
I actually been practicing i have like 400 races on type racer im up too 75 wpm now lel.

I like blue switches now. I do typeracer every morning now