"Think about it.. There's 60~ [Lawrence] vids out there that you might or might not see. It's going to haunt you forever."yep i think its about time we start a nuclear war and hope we all die
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lol
there's been a deepweb celebrity nude trading ring for YEARS
You have to buy in with original ones, or a whole lotta bitcoin (last I checeked the biggest one had a 100 BTC buy-in if you wanted to pay instead of "just" bringing new photos).
There's so many more of these, but this is literally the result of a few members pissing off another, and the angry guy putting all their photos on out internet to kill all the value that the photos had.
this also happened on Sunday so its 2 days old now lol.
and its referred to on reddit as "The Fappening 2014"
Gonewild has better looking girls than these celebs tbh
Gonewild has better looking girls than these celebs tbh
I have my collection of 300+ demik nudes, as well as several videos. That's all I need to jerk it till I die.
Sauce! XDGonewild has better looking girls than these celebs tbh
I have my collection of 300+ demik nudes, as well as several videos. That's all I need to jerk it till I die.
You promised me you wouldnt tell anybody!
Gonewild has better looking girls than these celebs tbh
I have my collection of 300+ demik nudes, as well as several videos. That's all I need to jerk it till I die.
You promised me you wouldnt tell anybody!
Gonewild has better looking girls than these celebs tbh
I have my collection of 300+ demik nudes, as well as several videos. That's all I need to jerk it till I die.
You promised me you wouldnt tell anybody!
The "fappening" got the better of me.
Also, your pics are so much better.
Studio setup>**** phone selfie
It's basically: JENNIFER LAWRENCE NUDES!!! And some bigger and smaller celebrities.i think it was just a case of bruteforcing their icloud, no more no less (apparently icloud is super encrypted and pretty much doesn't even allow apple to fondle your balls)
The guy that posted them originally said he had more, including videos and wanted people to pay him in Bitcoins.
For those that don't know, she is basically the current darling of the internet and people wanted to see her nude.
Part of the current consternation is that some of the women are/might be underage in the pictures. Oh yeah, that and it might mean that Apple's iCloud service might not be entirely safe. Who would have guessed.
But even that shouldn't be possible. I believe I read somewhere that the hackers found a way to circumvent the brute force failsafe so they could keep trying.It's basically: JENNIFER LAWRENCE NUDES!!! And some bigger and smaller celebrities.i think it was just a case of bruteforcing their icloud, no more no less (apparently icloud is super encrypted and pretty much doesn't even allow apple to fondle your balls)
The guy that posted them originally said he had more, including videos and wanted people to pay him in Bitcoins.
For those that don't know, she is basically the current darling of the internet and people wanted to see her nude.
Part of the current consternation is that some of the women are/might be underage in the pictures. Oh yeah, that and it might mean that Apple's iCloud service might not be entirely safe. Who would have guessed.
luckily it's got two factor authentication so for the smarter pipsqueaks our ****pics will stay hidden
aight everyone keep your ****s inside your pants...But even that shouldn't be possible. I believe I read somewhere that the hackers found a way to circumvent the brute force failsafe so they could keep trying.It's basically: JENNIFER LAWRENCE NUDES!!! And some bigger and smaller celebrities.i think it was just a case of bruteforcing their icloud, no more no less (apparently icloud is super encrypted and pretty much doesn't even allow apple to fondle your balls)
The guy that posted them originally said he had more, including videos and wanted people to pay him in Bitcoins.
For those that don't know, she is basically the current darling of the internet and people wanted to see her nude.
Part of the current consternation is that some of the women are/might be underage in the pictures. Oh yeah, that and it might mean that Apple's iCloud service might not be entirely safe. Who would have guessed.
luckily it's got two factor authentication so for the smarter pipsqueaks our ****pics will stay hidden
Personally, I believe that any celebrity who takes nudies of themselves on their phones, knowing that it is likely hooked up to a cloud account, is either mind-bogglingly stupid, or they WANT the pics to get out there as a publicity stunt (after all, there's no such thing as bad publicity).or they believe humanity is decent
Personally, I believe that any celebrity who takes nudies of themselves on their phones, knowing that it is likely hooked up to a cloud account, is either mind-bogglingly stupid, or they WANT the pics to get out there as a publicity stunt (after all, there's no such thing as bad publicity).or they believe humanity is decent
Wait, people take nude selfies on their smartphones? Woah. Me = stunned.so which ethos are you
Double wait, it was called the "Fappening"? You mean people masturbate using photo's of celebrities? Me = flabbergasted.
Triple wait, this means that most people use the awesome power of the internet just to see naked pics and masturbate? Me = dismayed.
We need a moralizing hero like Rick Santorum to clean up this cess pool of an internet. :thumb: http://jezebel.com/5895231/rick-santorum-definitely-hates-porn-but-certainly-doesnt-hate-profiting-from-porn
The best eth0syeah but who are the best
not just the best, the very best.The best eth0syeah but who are the best
First of all I think the whole fappening thing is uber pathetic.qft
Secondly, how come the actors be doing such a stupid thing as to take nekkid pictures of themselves, so far in the media I've seen all sorts of "Everybody does this", "It's normal, It's human" - I might be the only one surprised but I didn't think taking naked selfies was "normal".
Another thing is that I've seen local newpapers saying that "apple's security is bad, they don't have 2-step", Which I know for a fact - they do. The problem is that the actors were responsible for their accounts own security. I don't even think I know a single service where 2-step authentication is a requirement.
But then again that's what journalism is these days - creating controversy, not actually reporting.
First of all I think the whole fappening thing is uber pathetic.
Secondly, how come the actors be doing such a stupid thing as to take nekkid pictures of themselves, so far in the media I've seen all sorts of "Everybody does this", "It's normal, It's human" - I might be the only one surprised but I didn't think taking naked selfies was "normal".
Another thing is that I've seen local newpapers saying that "apple's security is bad, they don't have 2-step", Which I know for a fact - they do. The problem is that the actors were responsible for their accounts own security. I don't even think I know a single service where 2-step authentication is a requirement.
But then again that's what journalism is these days - creating controversy, not actually reporting.
First of all I think the whole fappening thing is uber pathetic.
Secondly, how come the actors be doing such a stupid thing as to take nekkid pictures of themselves, so far in the media I've seen all sorts of "Everybody does this", "It's normal, It's human" - I might be the only one surprised but I didn't think taking naked selfies was "normal".
Another thing is that I've seen local newpapers saying that "apple's security is bad, they don't have 2-step", Which I know for a fact - they do. The problem is that the actors were responsible for their accounts own security. I don't even think I know a single service where 2-step authentication is a requirement.
But then again that's what journalism is these days - creating controversy, not actually reporting.
It is quite simple to understand. Most of these celebrities are in long distance relationships. Skype/pictures are as close as they can get to a sexual relationship sometimes. I mean they are human also.
there's been a deepweb celebrity nude trading ring for YEARSI'd bet that NSA employees fapped to them even earlier.
yeah but you're old n crustyFirst of all I think the whole fappening thing is uber pathetic.
Secondly, how come the actors be doing such a stupid thing as to take nekkid pictures of themselves, so far in the media I've seen all sorts of "Everybody does this", "It's normal, It's human" - I might be the only one surprised but I didn't think taking naked selfies was "normal".
Another thing is that I've seen local newpapers saying that "apple's security is bad, they don't have 2-step", Which I know for a fact - they do. The problem is that the actors were responsible for their accounts own security. I don't even think I know a single service where 2-step authentication is a requirement.
But then again that's what journalism is these days - creating controversy, not actually reporting.
It is quite simple to understand. Most of these celebrities are in long distance relationships. Skype/pictures are as close as they can get to a sexual relationship sometimes. I mean they are human also.
Bull****, I'm three years into a long dist relationship and me and my SO (super other-half) have no naked pics of either of us... becasue naked pics are pointless when your a grown up.
yeah but you're old n crustyFirst of all I think the whole fappening thing is uber pathetic.
Secondly, how come the actors be doing such a stupid thing as to take nekkid pictures of themselves, so far in the media I've seen all sorts of "Everybody does this", "It's normal, It's human" - I might be the only one surprised but I didn't think taking naked selfies was "normal".
Another thing is that I've seen local newpapers saying that "apple's security is bad, they don't have 2-step", Which I know for a fact - they do. The problem is that the actors were responsible for their accounts own security. I don't even think I know a single service where 2-step authentication is a requirement.
But then again that's what journalism is these days - creating controversy, not actually reporting.
It is quite simple to understand. Most of these celebrities are in long distance relationships. Skype/pictures are as close as they can get to a sexual relationship sometimes. I mean they are human also.
Bull****, I'm three years into a long dist relationship and me and my SO (super other-half) have no naked pics of either of us... becasue naked pics are pointless when your a grown up.
yeah but you're old n crustyFirst of all I think the whole fappening thing is uber pathetic.
Secondly, how come the actors be doing such a stupid thing as to take nekkid pictures of themselves, so far in the media I've seen all sorts of "Everybody does this", "It's normal, It's human" - I might be the only one surprised but I didn't think taking naked selfies was "normal".
Another thing is that I've seen local newpapers saying that "apple's security is bad, they don't have 2-step", Which I know for a fact - they do. The problem is that the actors were responsible for their accounts own security. I don't even think I know a single service where 2-step authentication is a requirement.
But then again that's what journalism is these days - creating controversy, not actually reporting.
It is quite simple to understand. Most of these celebrities are in long distance relationships. Skype/pictures are as close as they can get to a sexual relationship sometimes. I mean they are human also.
Bull****, I'm three years into a long dist relationship and me and my SO (super other-half) have no naked pics of either of us... becasue naked pics are pointless when your a grown up.
nahh I'm wet and moist
Where's this going ? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)yeah but you're old n crustyFirst of all I think the whole fappening thing is uber pathetic.
Secondly, how come the actors be doing such a stupid thing as to take nekkid pictures of themselves, so far in the media I've seen all sorts of "Everybody does this", "It's normal, It's human" - I might be the only one surprised but I didn't think taking naked selfies was "normal".
Another thing is that I've seen local newpapers saying that "apple's security is bad, they don't have 2-step", Which I know for a fact - they do. The problem is that the actors were responsible for their accounts own security. I don't even think I know a single service where 2-step authentication is a requirement.
But then again that's what journalism is these days - creating controversy, not actually reporting.
It is quite simple to understand. Most of these celebrities are in long distance relationships. Skype/pictures are as close as they can get to a sexual relationship sometimes. I mean they are human also.
Bull****, I'm three years into a long dist relationship and me and my SO (super other-half) have no naked pics of either of us... becasue naked pics are pointless when your a grown up.
nahh I'm wet and moist
First of all I think the whole fappening thing is uber pathetic.
Secondly, how come the actors be doing such a stupid thing as to take nekkid pictures of themselves, so far in the media I've seen all sorts of "Everybody does this", "It's normal, It's human" - I might be the only one surprised but I didn't think taking naked selfies was "normal".
Another thing is that I've seen local newpapers saying that "apple's security is bad, they don't have 2-step", Which I know for a fact - they do. The problem is that the actors were responsible for their accounts own security. I don't even think I know a single service where 2-step authentication is a requirement.
But then again that's what journalism is these days - creating controversy, not actually reporting.
It is quite simple to understand. Most of these celebrities are in long distance relationships. Skype/pictures are as close as they can get to a sexual relationship sometimes. I mean they are human also.
Bull****, I'm three years into a long dist relationship and me and my SO (super other-half) have no naked pics of either of us... becasue naked pics are pointless when your a grown up.
First of all I think the whole fappening thing is uber pathetic.
Secondly, how come the actors be doing such a stupid thing as to take nekkid pictures of themselves, so far in the media I've seen all sorts of "Everybody does this", "It's normal, It's human" - I might be the only one surprised but I didn't think taking naked selfies was "normal".
Another thing is that I've seen local newpapers saying that "apple's security is bad, they don't have 2-step", Which I know for a fact - they do. The problem is that the actors were responsible for their accounts own security. I don't even think I know a single service where 2-step authentication is a requirement.
But then again that's what journalism is these days - creating controversy, not actually reporting.
It is quite simple to understand. Most of these celebrities are in long distance relationships. Skype/pictures are as close as they can get to a sexual relationship sometimes. I mean they are human also.
Bull****, I'm three years into a long dist relationship and me and my SO (super other-half) have no naked pics of either of us... becasue naked pics are pointless when your a grown up.
Well its a good ****ing thing the world models itself around how you act.
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I'm gonna say something which would get me downvoted to hell on reddit; Jennifer Lawrence is not that hot.
She has a great ass though.
I think one of the funnier things is that the pictures are now being restricted from being posted on 4chan and stuff because of a copyright lawsuit from JLaw. But she didn't take half of these photos. So, like the photographer who let the monkey take a selfie, she doesn't own them. The person who took them does.
Also, this guy who originally posted them didn't say he was a hacker, just a collector. Which gives foundation to what TS said about this ring which has been discussed on 4chan as well. He had something he knew people wanted, but he didn't sell them. I didn't pay anything.
She has a great ass though.If there is one thing all those pics lacked it was ass.
Tangentially Related:
(http://img01.lachschon.de/images/105572_fap_fap_penny.jpg) (http://img01.lachschon.de/images/105572_fap_fap_penny.jpg)
She has a great ass though.If there is one thing all those pics lacked it was ass.
Besides mckayla. Damn.
I think one of the funnier things is that the pictures are now being restricted from being posted on 4chan and stuff because of a copyright lawsuit from JLaw. But she didn't take half of these photos. So, like the photographer who let the monkey take a selfie, she doesn't own them. The person who took them does.
One thing that did strike me as pretty funny though, was all the pics (well the few I saw) where ****ty blurry or just in a bathroom or something... like... if your sending/taking 'sexy' pics of yourself... why not just use your publicity pics where they are professionally taken and your wearing next to nothing anyway lol
Nice victim blaming
Tangentially Related:
(http://img01.lachschon.de/images/105572_fap_fap_penny.jpg) (http://img01.lachschon.de/images/105572_fap_fap_penny.jpg)
Hah, hers were funny as well.She has a great ass though.If there is one thing all those pics lacked it was ass.
Besides mckayla. Damn.
Did you not see all of them? There were a couple with some decent ass shots. But yeah McKayla. Them gymnasts sure have incredible lower body muscles
If you're sending someone sexy photos of yourself, why send them photos that the recipient could find via a Google search? It's more meaningful to take the time to take a unique pic and send it, as it's more personal. I mean, if you were dating a girl and asked her to send you a pic of herself, would you want her to send you a pic of her right then and there, or would you want to get a professional picture that hundreds of others have access to?
Nice victim blaming
Well ****s are ugly.chill
I think one of the funnier things is that the pictures are now being restricted from being posted on 4chan and stuff because of a copyright lawsuit from JLaw. But she didn't take half of these photos. So, like the photographer who let the monkey take a selfie, she doesn't own them. The person who took them does.
Actually, it depends on the legalese in the photography contract. The photographer could have very well given up ownership rights as a condition of the contract. He could take the pics, but she owns them.One thing that did strike me as pretty funny though, was all the pics (well the few I saw) where ****ty blurry or just in a bathroom or something... like... if your sending/taking 'sexy' pics of yourself... why not just use your publicity pics where they are professionally taken and your wearing next to nothing anyway lol
If you're sending someone sexy photos of yourself, why send them photos that the recipient could find via a Google search? It's more meaningful to take the time to take a unique pic and send it, as it's more personal. I mean, if you were dating a girl and asked her to send you a pic of herself, would you want her to send you a pic of her right then and there, or would you want to get a professional picture that hundreds of others have access to?
I assume JLaw = Jude Law?
She has a great ass though.If there is one thing all those pics lacked it was ass.
Besides mckayla. Damn.
Did you not see all of them? There were a couple with some decent ass shots. But yeah McKayla. Them gymnasts sure have incredible lower body muscles
I wouldn't ask lol... when I don't see my gf for months at a time becasue she lives in another country I don't suddenly loose all memory of what she looks like.
It's one thing I don't really understand, like, there is no sense in taking nudes and then sending them to people... my memories are far more vivid and far more detailed than a phone camera can capture lol and I've yet to find a girl that likes/asks for **** pics :p
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Are you implying that JLaw entered into a professional contract with someone and employed them to take naked pictures of her?
There isn't a point, taking naked pics of yourself is dumb and pretty pointless... taking them when your a celebrity is even dumber lol
There isn't a point, taking naked pics of yourself is dumb and pretty pointless... taking them when your a celebrity is even dumber lol
Oh, I'm not denying that. In fact, I said pretty much the same thing earlier. I was just illustrating WHY they would do so.
But you are saying it depends on the contract. There wouldn't be a contract because it would literally just be her and her SO taking photos on their phones...
looking at/downloading these pictures is also (technically) illegal
just sayin
looking at/downloading these pictures is also (technically) illegal
just sayin
There isn't a point, taking naked pics of yourself is dumb and pretty pointless... taking them when your a celebrity is even dumber lolEven celebrities deserve some privacy. These pictures were obviously taken for a very specific person to see. If that is their kink it is their right to do so.
There isn't a point, taking naked pics of yourself is dumb and pretty pointless... taking them when your a celebrity is even dumber lolEven celebrities deserve some privacy.
fyi apparently the mckayla maroney are underaged, so get that V& rdy
fyi apparently the mckayla maroney are underaged, so get that V& rdy
Not going to lie, when I first saw that thread on reddit I had to Google 99% of the names on the list lol
fyi apparently the mckayla maroney are underaged, so get that V& rdy
I wish people would stop saying JLaw, I keep thinking its Jude Law and then I get all these confusing thoughts that make me question how I have lived my life and how I should proceed
fyi apparently the mckayla maroney are underaged, so get that V& rdy
I wish people would stop saying JLaw, I keep thinking its Jude Law and then I get all these confusing thoughts that make me question how I have lived my life and how I should proceed
Would you like to make a confession?
Wait, people take nude selfies on their smartphones? Woah. Me = stunned.so which ethos are you
Double wait, it was called the "Fappening"? You mean people masturbate using photo's of celebrities? Me = flabbergasted.
Triple wait, this means that most people use the awesome power of the internet just to see naked pics and masturbate? Me = dismayed.
We need a moralizing hero like Rick Santorum to clean up this cess pool of an internet. :thumb: http://jezebel.com/5895231/rick-santorum-definitely-hates-porn-but-certainly-doesnt-hate-profiting-from-porn
no i mean which ethos are youWait, people take nude selfies on their smartphones? Woah. Me = stunned.so which ethos are you
Double wait, it was called the "Fappening"? You mean people masturbate using photo's of celebrities? Me = flabbergasted.
Triple wait, this means that most people use the awesome power of the internet just to see naked pics and masturbate? Me = dismayed.
We need a moralizing hero like Rick Santorum to clean up this cess pool of an internet. :thumb: http://jezebel.com/5895231/rick-santorum-definitely-hates-porn-but-certainly-doesnt-hate-profiting-from-porn
lol. Are there two of me?
no i mean which ethos are youWait, people take nude selfies on their smartphones? Woah. Me = stunned.so which ethos are you
Double wait, it was called the "Fappening"? You mean people masturbate using photo's of celebrities? Me = flabbergasted.
Triple wait, this means that most people use the awesome power of the internet just to see naked pics and masturbate? Me = dismayed.
We need a moralizing hero like Rick Santorum to clean up this cess pool of an internet. :thumb: http://jezebel.com/5895231/rick-santorum-definitely-hates-porn-but-certainly-doesnt-hate-profiting-from-porn
lol. Are there two of me?
not which one of two identical people are you
fyi apparently the mckayla maroney are underaged, so get that V& rdy
How are they planning to prove that?
it's not like modifying an EXIF is hard or anything
nope, not easy at all
impossible
>.>
EDIT: did you notice that I'm just a little angry about this?
it's not like modifying an EXIF is hard or anythingA fap a day keeps the tension away.
nope, not easy at all
impossible
>.>
EDIT: did you notice that I'm just a little angry about this?
it's not like modifying an EXIF is hard or anything
nope, not easy at all
impossible
>.>
EDIT: did you notice that I'm just a little angry about this?
In which case all they have to do is get the original (i.e. - the one that is still on her phone) and check its data.
it's not like modifying an EXIF is hard or anything
nope, not easy at all
impossible
>.>
EDIT: did you notice that I'm just a little angry about this?
In which case all they have to do is get the original (i.e. - the one that is still on her phone) and check its data.
The FBI and Apple is involved now.
Wait, bitcoin. Isn't it trackable?
And if they were hacked, why only a few of them? Don't you think that a hacker would have shared a crap load of them? And how many pictures does the average woman have of herself *SELFIE TIME* thousands. This could be a publicity stunt.
None of the photos would make look bad in any way shape or form, Fox news called said the hacker went by the name "4chan".... Wow....
I was hoping someone would say that :DThe FBI and Apple is involved now.
Wait, bitcoin. Isn't it trackable?
And if they were hacked, why only a few of them? Don't you think that a hacker would have shared a crap load of them? And how many pictures does the average woman have of herself *SELFIE TIME* thousands. This could be a publicity stunt.
None of the photos would make look bad in any way shape or form, Fox news called said the hacker went by the name "4chan".... Wow....
FBI huh?
So, literally female body inspectors.
publicity stunt? lol the hell you smoking.
and it's fox news. they are almost mentality retarded, what do you expect?
Bitcoin isn't trackable... That's the whole point of it...
Personally, I believe that any celebrity who takes nudies of themselves on their phones, knowing that it is likely hooked up to a cloud account, is either mind-bogglingly stupid, or they WANT the pics to get out there as a publicity stunt (after all, there's no such thing as bad publicity).or they believe humanity is decent
They work in Hollywood.
You'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
- Not even on Wall Street or Capitol Hill?
I.... stand corrected.
honestly if you want something outside the government, especially currency that's supposed work legally, i have never ever seen a bigger ****ing citadel of big ****ing neon lights and loudest ****ing speakers yelling "ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES, ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES"Bitcoin isn't trackable... That's the whole point of it...
Bitcoins are easier to track than you think. First one of the very top Bitcoin dev said: "...you should assume that a persistent, motivated attacker will be able to associate your IP address with your bitcoin transactions."
Then most people buy / sell / trade coins on exchange or on service like Coinbase: this leaves gigantic tracks (for law enforcement at least).
The tracability is so blatant that there are now several "coin laundries" allowing user to mix coins so that they get harder to track. There are also devs trying to come up with alternative coins, trying to fix the anonymity / traceability problem that Bitcoin has.
Regarding the whole point of Bitcoin I'd say that the message Satoshi Nakamoto left in the Bitcoin genesis block (concerning yet another bank bailout) gives an hint: to me the "point" was to create a deflationnary currency outside of any government's control. I'm not commenting on whether that can work or not and is desirable or not.
Bitcoin isn't trackable... That's the whole point of it...
Bitcoins are easier to track than you think. First one of the very top Bitcoin dev said: "...you should assume that a persistent, motivated attacker will be able to associate your IP address with your bitcoin transactions."
Then most people buy / sell / trade coins on exchange or on service like Coinbase: this leaves gigantic tracks (for law enforcement at least).
The tracability is so blatant that there are now several "coin laundries" allowing user to mix coins so that they get harder to track. There are also devs trying to come up with alternative coins, trying to fix the anonymity / traceability problem that Bitcoin has.
Regarding the whole point of Bitcoin I'd say that the message Satoshi Nakamoto left in the Bitcoin genesis block (concerning yet another bank bailout) gives an hint: to me the "point" was to create a deflationnary currency outside of any government's control. I'm not commenting on whether that can work or not and is desirable or not.
The FBI and Apple is involved now.
Wait, bitcoin. Isn't it trackable?
And if they were hacked, why only a few of them? Don't you think that a hacker would have shared a crap load of them? And how many pictures does the average woman have of herself *SELFIE TIME* thousands. This could be a publicity stunt.
None of the photos would make look bad in any way shape or form, Fox news called said the hacker went by the name "4chan".... Wow....
FBI huh?
So, literally female body inspectors.
publicity stunt? lol the hell you smoking.
and it's fox news. they are almost mentality retarded, what do you expect?
Brett Larson, CNN’s technology analyst, for thinking that 4Chan is the hacker name of an actual human being.
“I’m sure we’re going to get some more confirmation as the hours and minutes go on, but he may have been a system administrator who knew his way around and how to hack things,” Larson postulated yesterday on Brooke Baldwin‘s show. “This seems like it was not a real, big effort, but more of a ‘I have these usernames, I know this security loophole — I’m just gonna run this password app and see if I can get into these people’s cloud-based accounts.’”
The FBI and Apple is involved now.
Wait, bitcoin. Isn't it trackable?
And if they were hacked, why only a few of them? Don't you think that a hacker would have shared a crap load of them? And how many pictures does the average woman have of herself *SELFIE TIME* thousands. This could be a publicity stunt.
None of the photos would make look bad in any way shape or form, Fox news called said the hacker went by the name "4chan".... Wow....
FBI huh?
So, literally female body inspectors.
publicity stunt? lol the hell you smoking.
and it's fox news. they are almost mentality retarded, what do you expect?
CNN's "tech analyst" said the same thing.
So pretty sure its safe to say mainstream media's all mentally retarded (btw, mentality retarded? really?)
www.mediaite.com/online/cnn-tech-analyst-thinks-4chan-is-a-person-he-may-have-been-a-systems-administrator/QuoteBrett Larson, CNN’s technology analyst, for thinking that 4Chan is the hacker name of an actual human being.
“I’m sure we’re going to get some more confirmation as the hours and minutes go on, but he may have been a system administrator who knew his way around and how to hack things,” Larson postulated yesterday on Brooke Baldwin‘s show. “This seems like it was not a real, big effort, but more of a ‘I have these usernames, I know this security loophole — I’m just gonna run this password app and see if I can get into these people’s cloud-based accounts.’”
Sexting is very normal. People just did it with FILM and Polaroids before the digital explosion
Sexting is very normal. People just did it with FILM and Polaroids before the digital explosion
sexting =/= to taking a Polaroid
No a single MAN was targeted or embarrassed...
Sexting is very normal. People just did it with FILM and Polaroids before the digital explosion
sexting =/= to taking a Polaroid
Technically this is correct. I'll revise my statement to snapping a Polaroid and passing the racy picture off to the intended recipient.
Also, whoever develops the film gets a sneak peak as well if it is traditional film :thumb:
No a single MAN was targeted or embarrassed...
Right, becasue what sense would that make? It was from an image sharing ring, most of which would consist of teenage boys with learning difficulties. Even if they were gay, pics of naked men would hold little to no value within the ring... so why bother getting them?Sexting is very normal. People just did it with FILM and Polaroids before the digital explosion
sexting =/= to taking a Polaroid
Technically this is correct. I'll revise my statement to snapping a Polaroid and passing the racy picture off to the intended recipient.
Also, whoever develops the film gets a sneak peak as well if it is traditional film :thumb:
Technically and thematically. If you take one physical photo, you have it and you can control it absolutely. Once it's digital you loose that control forever.
And in my experience (living in the UK anyway) any racy or even seemingly rude photo's you took and then got developed at a shop would not be developed.
No a single MAN was targeted or embarrassed...
Right, becasue what sense would that make? It was from an image sharing ring, most of which would consist of teenage boys with learning difficulties. Even if they were gay, pics of naked men would hold little to no value within the ring... so why bother getting them?
Sorry I assumed autism came under the 'learning difficulties' umbrella.
i still doubt the ring consists of teenage boys.
wouldn't surprise me if it was mostly adults that were doing this.
I r stupid toThe FBI and Apple is involved now.
Wait, bitcoin. Isn't it trackable?
And if they were hacked, why only a few of them? Don't you think that a hacker would have shared a crap load of them? And how many pictures does the average woman have of herself *SELFIE TIME* thousands. This could be a publicity stunt.
None of the photos would make look bad in any way shape or form, Fox news called said the hacker went by the name "4chan".... Wow....
FBI huh?
So, literally female body inspectors.
publicity stunt? lol the hell you smoking.
and it's fox news. they are almost mentality retarded, what do you expect?
CNN's "tech analyst" said the same thing.
So pretty sure its safe to say mainstream media's all mentally retarded (btw, mentality retarded? really?)
www.mediaite.com/online/cnn-tech-analyst-thinks-4chan-is-a-person-he-may-have-been-a-systems-administrator/QuoteBrett Larson, CNN’s technology analyst, for thinking that 4Chan is the hacker name of an actual human being.
“I’m sure we’re going to get some more confirmation as the hours and minutes go on, but he may have been a system administrator who knew his way around and how to hack things,” Larson postulated yesterday on Brooke Baldwin‘s show. “This seems like it was not a real, big effort, but more of a ‘I have these usernames, I know this security loophole — I’m just gonna run this password app and see if I can get into these people’s cloud-based accounts.’”
sexting imo is fine, you have to be fine with sexting if you care about technology and progress, how?
years ago, like in those victorian, colonial days, describing apples and the sky was considered scandalous. but this is how men and women regularly corresponded, hell since it probably took 2 months to get a letter, they probably packed it full of "stuff" and took hours to write.
then phonesex
and mailing polaroids
sexting is just the next "logical" "technological" progression.
the only reason why many of us (myself included) believe why it shouldn't be done, is because we are more technologically savvy than 99% of the population. i'm serious you don't even have to be a nerd/geek to qualify. (so we all know the dangers of "putting it out there, stays there)
hell, w/o icloud most ppl wouldn't even know how to "get" stuff off their phone
sexting imo is fine, you have to be fine with sexting if you care about technology and progress, how?
years ago, like in those victorian, colonial days, describing apples and the sky was considered scandalous. but this is how men and women regularly corresponded, hell since it probably took 2 months to get a letter, they probably packed it full of "stuff" and took hours to write.
then phonesex
and mailing polaroids
sexting is just the next "logical" "technological" progression.
the only reason why many of us (myself included) believe why it shouldn't be done, is because we are more technologically savvy than 99% of the population. i'm serious you don't even have to be a nerd/geek to qualify. (so we all know the dangers of "putting it out there, stays there)
hell, w/o icloud most ppl wouldn't even know how to "get" stuff off their phone
I think with "us" he means the general Geekhacker, not the general population.sexting imo is fine, you have to be fine with sexting if you care about technology and progress, how?
years ago, like in those victorian, colonial days, describing apples and the sky was considered scandalous. but this is how men and women regularly corresponded, hell since it probably took 2 months to get a letter, they probably packed it full of "stuff" and took hours to write.
then phonesex
and mailing polaroids
sexting is just the next "logical" "technological" progression.
the only reason why many of us (myself included) believe why it shouldn't be done, is because we are more technologically savvy than 99% of the population. i'm serious you don't even have to be a nerd/geek to qualify. (so we all know the dangers of "putting it out there, stays there)
hell, w/o icloud most ppl wouldn't even know how to "get" stuff off their phone
Your post made no sense, you opened with sexting is fine... and then ended with saying that the only reason people don't do it, is becasue they know better... lol
depends on what you mean by hardcoresexting imo is fine, you have to be fine with sexting if you care about technology and progress, how?
years ago, like in those victorian, colonial days, describing apples and the sky was considered scandalous. but this is how men and women regularly corresponded, hell since it probably took 2 months to get a letter, they probably packed it full of "stuff" and took hours to write.
then phonesex
and mailing polaroids
sexting is just the next "logical" "technological" progression.
the only reason why many of us (myself included) believe why it shouldn't be done, is because we are more technologically savvy than 99% of the population. i'm serious you don't even have to be a nerd/geek to qualify. (so we all know the dangers of "putting it out there, stays there)
hell, w/o icloud most ppl wouldn't even know how to "get" stuff off their phone
I don't think this is a problem at all.. Softcore pr0ngraphy has already migrated to mainstream...
The very next step will be the acceptance of Hardcore visuals....
Sexting is very normal. People just did it with FILM and Polaroids before the digital explosion
sexting =/= to taking a Polaroid
Technically this is correct. I'll revise my statement to snapping a Polaroid and passing the racy picture off to the intended recipient.
Also, whoever develops the film gets a sneak peak as well if it is traditional film :thumb:
yea us=GH, a lot of ppl don't know the difference between USB and USA.
just look at you *******s white knighting this ****Nah, white knighting would be "OMG don't look at their pics! Preserve their modesty! I didn't fap to this I swear!"
ROCK ****ING SOLID
http://maximumble.thebookofbiff.com/2014/09/03/932-privacy/
SOLID ****ING ROCKSOLID ROCK ****INGShow Image(http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharpscience/BigRock.jpg)
Now, where can I see these nudie pics of Jude Law?
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/adlOcwX.jpg)
SOLID ROCK ****ING
I can't find the pics or videos anywhere. Too much work, **** it.
I can't find the pics or videos anywhere. Too much work, **** it.
really? i mean seriously its the #1 torrent on TPB lol
are people allowed to share **** like this on GH?I can't find the pics or videos anywhere. Too much work, **** it.
really? i mean seriously its the #1 torrent on TPB lol
are people allowed to share **** like this on GH?I can't find the pics or videos anywhere. Too much work, **** it.
really? i mean seriously its the #1 torrent on TPB lol
are people allowed to share **** like this on GH?I can't find the pics or videos anywhere. Too much work, **** it.
really? i mean seriously its the #1 torrent on TPB lol
Porn is against TOS
and even if it's not, there are minors here
Don't post the link.
i've been on forums where discussion of how to acquire or perform illegal activities is (in worst/best, depends on the situation, scenarios) punishable by bans, and i mostly agree. i don't think telling people how/where to find and/or download illegal pornography should be allowed on here.
are people allowed to share **** like this on GH?I can't find the pics or videos anywhere. Too much work, **** it.
really? i mean seriously its the #1 torrent on TPB lol
i've been on forums where discussion of how to acquire or perform illegal activities is (in worst/best, depends on the situation, scenarios) punishable by bans, and i mostly agree. i don't think telling people how/where to find and/or download illegal pornography should be allowed on here.
what im saying, you nerd, is that this should be on gh if it already isnt, if it is plz enforcei've been on forums where discussion of how to acquire or perform illegal activities is (in worst/best, depends on the situation, scenarios) punishable by bans, and i mostly agree. i don't think telling people how/where to find and/or download illegal pornography should be allowed on here.
Good to know
what im saying, you nerd, is that this should be on gh if it already isnt, if it is plz enforcei've been on forums where discussion of how to acquire or perform illegal activities is (in worst/best, depends on the situation, scenarios) punishable by bans, and i mostly agree. i don't think telling people how/where to find and/or download illegal pornography should be allowed on here.
Good to know
im spreading news im not telling people how to act like scum and work up a good jailtime for themselveswhat im saying, you nerd, is that this should be on gh if it already isnt, if it is plz enforcei've been on forums where discussion of how to acquire or perform illegal activities is (in worst/best, depends on the situation, scenarios) punishable by bans, and i mostly agree. i don't think telling people how/where to find and/or download illegal pornography should be allowed on here.
Good to know
then why in gods name did you make this thread?
you're the one responsible for drawing attention to this situation.
blames on you "nerd"
I still don´t get the point of this thread but I maybe missed something :rolleyes:
the reason you do not post "how do i (something illegal)" is because you do not want to get the site, GH in trouble. any stupid internet lawyer can issue a C&D to take down posts or take down the website if they want, cuz internet lawyers are dumb.what are you trying to say :confused:
other places don't care, private forums, they put it in spoiler tags where search engines can't find the info(not find the info but make it searchable so idiot lawyers can't google search for it)
just don't pee in the pool you like to swim at, gh is for keyboard discussions not anarchy and warez.
did you know back in the 90's warez was such a black listed term that all you had to do was say zeraw instead and it was all fine and dandy.
I still don´t get the point of this thread but I maybe missed something :rolleyes:news and discussion
the reason you do not post "how do i (something illegal)" is because you do not want to get the site, GH in trouble. any stupid internet lawyer can issue a C&D to take down posts or take down the website if they want, cuz internet lawyers are dumb.
im spreading news im not telling people how to act like scum and work up a good jailtime for themselveswhat im saying, you nerd, is that this should be on gh if it already isnt, if it is plz enforcei've been on forums where discussion of how to acquire or perform illegal activities is (in worst/best, depends on the situation, scenarios) punishable by bans, and i mostly agree. i don't think telling people how/where to find and/or download illegal pornography should be allowed on here.
Good to know
then why in gods name did you make this thread?
you're the one responsible for drawing attention to this situation.
blames on you "nerd"
a ****ing news station does not condone decapitation of innocents by reporting the isis **** that happened recently and stuff, there was no need for you to tell people that you just told them and i'm pretty sure i'm not your get out of jail free card, you catchy drifty?
people can look up more news for sure, i want people to know whats going on and be curiousim spreading news im not telling people how to act like scum and work up a good jailtime for themselveswhat im saying, you nerd, is that this should be on gh if it already isnt, if it is plz enforcei've been on forums where discussion of how to acquire or perform illegal activities is (in worst/best, depends on the situation, scenarios) punishable by bans, and i mostly agree. i don't think telling people how/where to find and/or download illegal pornography should be allowed on here.
Good to know
then why in gods name did you make this thread?
you're the one responsible for drawing attention to this situation.
blames on you "nerd"
a ****ing news station does not condone decapitation of innocents by reporting the isis **** that happened recently and stuff, there was no need for you to tell people that you just told them and i'm pretty sure i'm not your get out of jail free card, you catchy drifty?
they don't condone it, but they sure as **** don't help.
ISIS wants attention, news gives them the attention they want.
same goes with school shootings.
shooters want attention. news give them attention and shows other possible shooters that they can gave infamy by doing it.
you can't sit here and tell people not to look up something when you're reporting on it. if you didn't want people to be curious you shouldn't have brought it up.
streisand effect
*aggressive cough* take that
oh fiddles mang*aggressive cough* take that
spreading ebola? damn that escalated quickly
inb4lock!rude
oh wait, off topic doesn't count ...
inb4lock!
oh wait, off topic doesn't count ...
To quote Dan O'Brien from Cracked: " 'If You Don't Want People to See You Naked, Don't Take Naked Pictures!' When you use this argument, here is what you're really saying: Person A owned a thing. Person B stole it. Let's all blame person A for having the audacity to own a thing in the first place."
ITT: hitler isnt responsible for the holocaust, the jews were
saying you shouldn't do something stupid =/= to victim blaming
It's not a difficult concept, I don't know why people have such a problem with it.
Doing something private in the privacy of your own home with your partner that bothers nobody isnt stupid.
Doing something private in the privacy of your own home with your partner that bothers nobody isnt stupid.
Once you digitise something, anything, and uploaded it to the internet, you loose all control over said thing.
Doing something private in the privacy of your own home with your partner that bothers nobody isnt stupid.
Once you digitise something, anything, and uploaded it to the internet, you loose all control over said thing.
This is a horribly bad interpretation of of rights. I understand you are from the UK where the leash is much tighter--but no matter the content, whether it be school documents or pictures. These should always be safe and protected by these services that we use.
edit - for spelling
Doing something private in the privacy of your own home with your partner that bothers nobody isnt stupid.
Once you digitise something, anything, and uploaded it to the internet, you loose all control over said thing.
This is a horribly bad interpretation of of rights. I understand you are from the UK where the leash is much tighter--but no matter the content, whether it be school documents or pictures. These should always be safe and protected by these services that we use.
edit - for spelling
I'm not disagreeing at all, they should, but we all know they aren't. I mean **** the FBI gets there **** hacked into... and when your a public figure your much more of a target. I'm not saying its right, but its just how it is.
---I guess I should clarify what I mean by 'control' I mean that, once you upload something to the internet it is very VERY hard to remove it. I mean actually control and manage that data, you can't manage all the information on some cloud server and how that is managed etc which a physical item like a Polaroid, you can control it absolutely---
Doing something private in the privacy of your own home with your partner that bothers nobody isnt stupid.
Once you digitise something, anything, and uploaded it to the internet, you loose all control over said thing.
This is a horribly bad interpretation of of rights. I understand you are from the UK where the leash is much tighter--but no matter the content, whether it be school documents or pictures. These should always be safe and protected by these services that we use.
edit - for spelling
I'm not disagreeing at all, they should, but we all know they aren't. I mean **** the FBI gets there **** hacked into... and when your a public figure your much more of a target. I'm not saying its right, but its just how it is.
---I guess I should clarify what I mean by 'control' I mean that, once you upload something to the internet it is very VERY hard to remove it. I mean actually control and manage that data, you can't manage all the information on some cloud server and how that is managed etc which a physical item like a Polaroid, you can control it absolutely---
Exactly. As users, we place trust in the services that are fast becoming integral parts of human's daily lives. A LOT of people have iPhones and store information in the cloud.
Now let's swap "stolen pictures" with "credit card info". If it so happened that an attacker was able to secure some payment information from apple's iCloud --- not only would apple being paying THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS in fines, just imagine how many people would potentially stop using apple services.
Theft is theft, no matter if the item is a digital picture or credit card info. Both items are personal and supposedly locked down under a decent security policy. Companies generally don't care if personal information is stolen as long as the company does not suffer any repercussions from the loss.
Until more strict rules are placed on the storage of "personal and private" data AND fines imposed for giants like Apple who fail to implement proper protocol in securing the user's data, you can bet on more of this stuff happening in the future
Doing something private in the privacy of your own home with your partner that bothers nobody isnt stupid.
Once you digitise something, anything, and uploaded it to the internet, you loose all control over said thing.
This is a horribly bad interpretation of of rights. I understand you are from the UK where the leash is much tighter--but no matter the content, whether it be school documents or pictures. These should always be safe and protected by these services that we use.
edit - for spelling
I'm not disagreeing at all, they should, but we all know they aren't. I mean **** the FBI gets there **** hacked into... and when your a public figure your much more of a target. I'm not saying its right, but its just how it is.
---I guess I should clarify what I mean by 'control' I mean that, once you upload something to the internet it is very VERY hard to remove it. I mean actually control and manage that data, you can't manage all the information on some cloud server and how that is managed etc which a physical item like a Polaroid, you can control it absolutely---
Exactly. As users, we place trust in the services that are fast becoming integral parts of human's daily lives. A LOT of people have iPhones and store information in the cloud.
Now let's swap "stolen pictures" with "credit card info". If it so happened that an attacker was able to secure some payment information from apple's iCloud --- not only would apple being paying THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS in fines, just imagine how many people would potentially stop using apple services.
Theft is theft, no matter if the item is a digital picture or credit card info. Both items are personal and supposedly locked down under a decent security policy. Companies generally don't care if personal information is stolen as long as the company does not suffer any repercussions from the loss.
Until more strict rules are placed on the storage of "personal and private" data AND fines imposed for giants like Apple who fail to implement proper protocol in securing the user's data, you can bet on more of this stuff happening in the future
I'm not disagreeing with you at all. I totally agree and when credit card information is stolen its a huge deal and **** goes down (as it is now). But that's just money, not really your privacy and you don't really have an option to not upload your credit card details to the internet or through some sort of internet connection becasue of the world we live in.
But with private images you take you have an option. And in the age of revenge porn, even if your not famous you still need to very super hyper careful what you do with images like that and 'control' is key to that, which is why I think sexting is dumb and stupid and shouldn't be encouraged BECAUSE of the dangers of people you don't want, seeing those images, due to, the lack of control you have over said images.
There is risk involved in sending a picture of that tone, sure, but that doesn't negate the fact that the data was supposedly secure in the first place. It is not illegal NOR wrong to posses these types of pictures.
Pictures should be secure as anything-- just as your address (Physical), geo-location data from pictures, e-mail addresses and anything else personally identifiable that is stored in the cloud.
How many users opt to enter their credit card data every time an app purchase is to be made? I'm guessing a minority--we trust the app store(and android market, etc) in keeping our info safe. This trust is then extended to other areas such as keeping address info, tax information, e-mail address information, PICTURES...
So it is OK for an attacker to steal my address info, pictures etc just because I had the audacity to store them online with everything else in my phone??
Doing something private in the privacy of your own home with your partner that bothers nobody isnt stupid.
Once you digitise something, anything, and uploaded it to the internet, you loose all control over said thing.
This is a horribly bad interpretation of of rights. I understand you are from the UK where the leash is much tighter--but no matter the content, whether it be school documents or pictures. These should always be safe and protected by these services that we use.
edit - for spelling
I'm not disagreeing at all, they should, but we all know they aren't. I mean **** the FBI gets there **** hacked into... and when your a public figure your much more of a target. I'm not saying its right, but its just how it is.
---I guess I should clarify what I mean by 'control' I mean that, once you upload something to the internet it is very VERY hard to remove it. I mean actually control and manage that data, you can't manage all the information on some cloud server and how that is managed etc which a physical item like a Polaroid, you can control it absolutely---
Exactly. As users, we place trust in the services that are fast becoming integral parts of human's daily lives. A LOT of people have iPhones and store information in the cloud.
Now let's swap "stolen pictures" with "credit card info". If it so happened that an attacker was able to secure some payment information from apple's iCloud --- not only would apple being paying THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS in fines, just imagine how many people would potentially stop using apple services.
Theft is theft, no matter if the item is a digital picture or credit card info. Both items are personal and supposedly locked down under a decent security policy. Companies generally don't care if personal information is stolen as long as the company does not suffer any repercussions from the loss.
Until more strict rules are placed on the storage of "personal and private" data AND fines imposed for giants like Apple who fail to implement proper protocol in securing the user's data, you can bet on more of this stuff happening in the future
I'm not disagreeing with you at all. I totally agree and when credit card information is stolen its a huge deal and **** goes down (as it is now). But that's just money, not really your privacy and you don't really have an option to not upload your credit card details to the internet or through some sort of internet connection becasue of the world we live in.
But with private images you take you have an option. And in the age of revenge porn, even if your not famous you still need to very super hyper careful what you do with images like that and 'control' is key to that, which is why I think sexting is dumb and stupid and shouldn't be encouraged BECAUSE of the dangers of people you don't want, seeing those images, due to, the lack of control you have over said images.
There is risk involved in sending a picture of that tone, sure, but that doesn't negate the fact that the data was supposedly secure in the first place. It is not illegal NOR wrong to posses these types of pictures.
Pictures should be secure as anything-- just as your address (Physical), geo-location data from pictures, e-mail addresses and anything else personally identifiable that is stored in the cloud.
How many users opt to enter their credit card data every time an app purchase is to be made? I'm guessing a minority--we trust the app store(and android market, etc) in keeping our info safe. This trust is then extended to other areas such as keeping address info, tax information, e-mail address information, PICTURES...
So it is OK for an attacker to steal my address info, pictures etc just because I had the audacity to store them online with everything else in my phone??
Doing something private in the privacy of your own home with your partner that bothers nobody isnt stupid.
Once you digitise something, anything, and uploaded it to the internet, you loose all control over said thing.
This is a horribly bad interpretation of of rights. I understand you are from the UK where the leash is much tighter--but no matter the content, whether it be school documents or pictures. These should always be safe and protected by these services that we use.
edit - for spelling
I'm not disagreeing at all, they should, but we all know they aren't. I mean **** the FBI gets there **** hacked into... and when your a public figure your much more of a target. I'm not saying its right, but its just how it is.
---I guess I should clarify what I mean by 'control' I mean that, once you upload something to the internet it is very VERY hard to remove it. I mean actually control and manage that data, you can't manage all the information on some cloud server and how that is managed etc which a physical item like a Polaroid, you can control it absolutely---
Exactly. As users, we place trust in the services that are fast becoming integral parts of human's daily lives. A LOT of people have iPhones and store information in the cloud.
Now let's swap "stolen pictures" with "credit card info". If it so happened that an attacker was able to secure some payment information from apple's iCloud --- not only would apple being paying THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS in fines, just imagine how many people would potentially stop using apple services.
Theft is theft, no matter if the item is a digital picture or credit card info. Both items are personal and supposedly locked down under a decent security policy. Companies generally don't care if personal information is stolen as long as the company does not suffer any repercussions from the loss.
Until more strict rules are placed on the storage of "personal and private" data AND fines imposed for giants like Apple who fail to implement proper protocol in securing the user's data, you can bet on more of this stuff happening in the future
I'm not disagreeing with you at all. I totally agree and when credit card information is stolen its a huge deal and **** goes down (as it is now). But that's just money, not really your privacy and you don't really have an option to not upload your credit card details to the internet or through some sort of internet connection becasue of the world we live in.
But with private images you take you have an option. And in the age of revenge porn, even if your not famous you still need to very super hyper careful what you do with images like that and 'control' is key to that, which is why I think sexting is dumb and stupid and shouldn't be encouraged BECAUSE of the dangers of people you don't want, seeing those images, due to, the lack of control you have over said images.
There is risk involved in sending a picture of that tone, sure, but that doesn't negate the fact that the data was supposedly secure in the first place. It is not illegal NOR wrong to posses these types of pictures.
Pictures should be secure as anything-- just as your address (Physical), geo-location data from pictures, e-mail addresses and anything else personally identifiable that is stored in the cloud.
How many users opt to enter their credit card data every time an app purchase is to be made? I'm guessing a minority--we trust the app store(and android market, etc) in keeping our info safe. This trust is then extended to other areas such as keeping address info, tax information, e-mail address information, PICTURES...
So it is OK for an attacker to steal my address info, pictures etc just because I had the audacity to store them online with everything else in my phone??
The flip side of this predicament is the unreasonably high pedestal that nudity is place upon..
Shame of one's own nakedness is a victorian invention..
From this fabricated shame, we've also created faux modesty.. and from there, began the forbidden allure that is today's prevailing view of nudity..
So... this technological fall out is again, a re-balancing of our value system with respect to acceptable human image and behavior..
Doing something private in the privacy of your own home with your partner that bothers nobody isnt stupid.
Once you digitise something, anything, and uploaded it to the internet, you loose all control over said thing.
This is a horribly bad interpretation of of rights. I understand you are from the UK where the leash is much tighter--but no matter the content, whether it be school documents or pictures. These should always be safe and protected by these services that we use.
edit - for spelling
I'm not disagreeing at all, they should, but we all know they aren't. I mean **** the FBI gets there **** hacked into... and when your a public figure your much more of a target. I'm not saying its right, but its just how it is.
---I guess I should clarify what I mean by 'control' I mean that, once you upload something to the internet it is very VERY hard to remove it. I mean actually control and manage that data, you can't manage all the information on some cloud server and how that is managed etc which a physical item like a Polaroid, you can control it absolutely---
Exactly. As users, we place trust in the services that are fast becoming integral parts of human's daily lives. A LOT of people have iPhones and store information in the cloud.
Now let's swap "stolen pictures" with "credit card info". If it so happened that an attacker was able to secure some payment information from apple's iCloud --- not only would apple being paying THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS in fines, just imagine how many people would potentially stop using apple services.
Theft is theft, no matter if the item is a digital picture or credit card info. Both items are personal and supposedly locked down under a decent security policy. Companies generally don't care if personal information is stolen as long as the company does not suffer any repercussions from the loss.
Until more strict rules are placed on the storage of "personal and private" data AND fines imposed for giants like Apple who fail to implement proper protocol in securing the user's data, you can bet on more of this stuff happening in the future
I'm not disagreeing with you at all. I totally agree and when credit card information is stolen its a huge deal and **** goes down (as it is now). But that's just money, not really your privacy and you don't really have an option to not upload your credit card details to the internet or through some sort of internet connection becasue of the world we live in.
But with private images you take you have an option. And in the age of revenge porn, even if your not famous you still need to very super hyper careful what you do with images like that and 'control' is key to that, which is why I think sexting is dumb and stupid and shouldn't be encouraged BECAUSE of the dangers of people you don't want, seeing those images, due to, the lack of control you have over said images.
There is risk involved in sending a picture of that tone, sure, but that doesn't negate the fact that the data was supposedly secure in the first place. It is not illegal NOR wrong to posses these types of pictures.
Pictures should be secure as anything-- just as your address (Physical), geo-location data from pictures, e-mail addresses and anything else personally identifiable that is stored in the cloud.
How many users opt to enter their credit card data every time an app purchase is to be made? I'm guessing a minority--we trust the app store(and android market, etc) in keeping our info safe. This trust is then extended to other areas such as keeping address info, tax information, e-mail address information, PICTURES...
So it is OK for an attacker to steal my address info, pictures etc just because I had the audacity to store them online with everything else in my phone??
The flip side of this predicament is the unreasonably high pedestal that nudity is place upon..
Shame of one's own nakedness is a victorian invention..
From this fabricated shame, we've also created faux modesty.. and from there, began the forbidden allure that is today's prevailing view of nudity..
So... this technological fall out is again, a re-balancing of our value system with respect to acceptable human image and behavior..
This has nothing to do with modesty. I had someone from World of Warcraft hack me through Skype and steal photos of me and post them on Imgur and link them all over Twitch. It was the violation of my privacy. I took those pictures for ONE person to see and instead hundreds of thousands of people saw them.
I am not ashamed of my body in the least. I don't care about being "slut" shamed over taking nude photographs for my boyfriend.
I care about 1) my family seeing me naked in a sexual way, 2) my privacy being invaded and then subsequently shared with the world.
I would feel the same way about a stranger peeping through my window. VIOLATED.
Doing something private in the privacy of your own home with your partner that bothers nobody isnt stupid.
Once you digitise something, anything, and uploaded it to the internet, you loose all control over said thing.
This is a horribly bad interpretation of of rights. I understand you are from the UK where the leash is much tighter--but no matter the content, whether it be school documents or pictures. These should always be safe and protected by these services that we use.
edit - for spelling
I'm not disagreeing at all, they should, but we all know they aren't. I mean **** the FBI gets there **** hacked into... and when your a public figure your much more of a target. I'm not saying its right, but its just how it is.
---I guess I should clarify what I mean by 'control' I mean that, once you upload something to the internet it is very VERY hard to remove it. I mean actually control and manage that data, you can't manage all the information on some cloud server and how that is managed etc which a physical item like a Polaroid, you can control it absolutely---
Exactly. As users, we place trust in the services that are fast becoming integral parts of human's daily lives. A LOT of people have iPhones and store information in the cloud.
Now let's swap "stolen pictures" with "credit card info". If it so happened that an attacker was able to secure some payment information from apple's iCloud --- not only would apple being paying THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS in fines, just imagine how many people would potentially stop using apple services.
Theft is theft, no matter if the item is a digital picture or credit card info. Both items are personal and supposedly locked down under a decent security policy. Companies generally don't care if personal information is stolen as long as the company does not suffer any repercussions from the loss.
Until more strict rules are placed on the storage of "personal and private" data AND fines imposed for giants like Apple who fail to implement proper protocol in securing the user's data, you can bet on more of this stuff happening in the future
I'm not disagreeing with you at all. I totally agree and when credit card information is stolen its a huge deal and **** goes down (as it is now). But that's just money, not really your privacy and you don't really have an option to not upload your credit card details to the internet or through some sort of internet connection becasue of the world we live in.
But with private images you take you have an option. And in the age of revenge porn, even if your not famous you still need to very super hyper careful what you do with images like that and 'control' is key to that, which is why I think sexting is dumb and stupid and shouldn't be encouraged BECAUSE of the dangers of people you don't want, seeing those images, due to, the lack of control you have over said images.
There is risk involved in sending a picture of that tone, sure, but that doesn't negate the fact that the data was supposedly secure in the first place. It is not illegal NOR wrong to posses these types of pictures.
Pictures should be secure as anything-- just as your address (Physical), geo-location data from pictures, e-mail addresses and anything else personally identifiable that is stored in the cloud.
How many users opt to enter their credit card data every time an app purchase is to be made? I'm guessing a minority--we trust the app store(and android market, etc) in keeping our info safe. This trust is then extended to other areas such as keeping address info, tax information, e-mail address information, PICTURES...
So it is OK for an attacker to steal my address info, pictures etc just because I had the audacity to store them online with everything else in my phone??
The flip side of this predicament is the unreasonably high pedestal that nudity is place upon..
Shame of one's own nakedness is a victorian invention..
From this fabricated shame, we've also created faux modesty.. and from there, began the forbidden allure that is today's prevailing view of nudity..
So... this technological fall out is again, a re-balancing of our value system with respect to acceptable human image and behavior..
This has nothing to do with modesty. I had someone from World of Warcraft hack me through Skype and steal photos of me and post them on Imgur and link them all over Twitch. It was the violation of my privacy. I took those pictures for ONE person to see and instead hundreds of thousands of people saw them.
I am not ashamed of my body in the least. I don't care about being "slut" shamed over taking nude photographs for my boyfriend.
I care about 1) my family seeing me naked in a sexual way, 2) my privacy being invaded and then subsequently shared with the world.
I would feel the same way about a stranger peeping through my window. VIOLATED.
The EXACT thing you described, is the EXACT issue I'm talking about..
Why should you care if ANYONE including family sees you naked.. Hell they wiped your ass before you could do it yourself...
It is INDEED slut-shaming... and that specific double standard ontop of an already unreasonable quota for modesty, IS the scale that is being tipped today, as softcore migrates to mainstream, and the ever growing presence and ease of access to hardcore content.
There is risk involved in sending a picture of that tone, sure, but that doesn't negate the fact that the data was supposedly secure in the first place. It is not illegal NOR wrong to posses these types of pictures.
Pictures should be secure as anything-- just as your address (Physical), geo-location data from pictures, e-mail addresses and anything else personally identifiable that is stored in the cloud.
How many users opt to enter their credit card data every time an app purchase is to be made? I'm guessing a minority--we trust the app store(and android market, etc) in keeping our info safe. This trust is then extended to other areas such as keeping address info, tax information, e-mail address information, PICTURES...
So it is OK for an attacker to steal my address info, pictures etc just because I had the audacity to store them online with everything else in my phone??
I never said it was ok for anyone to steal anything, I said that it was dumb to sexty becasue of the risks.
When privacy is something that we have very little control over in this modern age of NSA and MI5/6 spying and monitoring you have to be more careful than ever.
Sexting is dumb becasue the gains are tiny, but the possible problems and downsides are so huge.
Doing something private in the privacy of your own home with your partner that bothers nobody isnt stupid.
Once you digitise something, anything, and uploaded it to the internet, you loose all control over said thing.
This is a horribly bad interpretation of of rights. I understand you are from the UK where the leash is much tighter--but no matter the content, whether it be school documents or pictures. These should always be safe and protected by these services that we use.
edit - for spelling
I'm not disagreeing at all, they should, but we all know they aren't. I mean **** the FBI gets there **** hacked into... and when your a public figure your much more of a target. I'm not saying its right, but its just how it is.
---I guess I should clarify what I mean by 'control' I mean that, once you upload something to the internet it is very VERY hard to remove it. I mean actually control and manage that data, you can't manage all the information on some cloud server and how that is managed etc which a physical item like a Polaroid, you can control it absolutely---
Exactly. As users, we place trust in the services that are fast becoming integral parts of human's daily lives. A LOT of people have iPhones and store information in the cloud.
Now let's swap "stolen pictures" with "credit card info". If it so happened that an attacker was able to secure some payment information from apple's iCloud --- not only would apple being paying THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS in fines, just imagine how many people would potentially stop using apple services.
Theft is theft, no matter if the item is a digital picture or credit card info. Both items are personal and supposedly locked down under a decent security policy. Companies generally don't care if personal information is stolen as long as the company does not suffer any repercussions from the loss.
Until more strict rules are placed on the storage of "personal and private" data AND fines imposed for giants like Apple who fail to implement proper protocol in securing the user's data, you can bet on more of this stuff happening in the future
I'm not disagreeing with you at all. I totally agree and when credit card information is stolen its a huge deal and **** goes down (as it is now). But that's just money, not really your privacy and you don't really have an option to not upload your credit card details to the internet or through some sort of internet connection becasue of the world we live in.
But with private images you take you have an option. And in the age of revenge porn, even if your not famous you still need to very super hyper careful what you do with images like that and 'control' is key to that, which is why I think sexting is dumb and stupid and shouldn't be encouraged BECAUSE of the dangers of people you don't want, seeing those images, due to, the lack of control you have over said images.
There is risk involved in sending a picture of that tone, sure, but that doesn't negate the fact that the data was supposedly secure in the first place. It is not illegal NOR wrong to posses these types of pictures.
Pictures should be secure as anything-- just as your address (Physical), geo-location data from pictures, e-mail addresses and anything else personally identifiable that is stored in the cloud.
How many users opt to enter their credit card data every time an app purchase is to be made? I'm guessing a minority--we trust the app store(and android market, etc) in keeping our info safe. This trust is then extended to other areas such as keeping address info, tax information, e-mail address information, PICTURES...
So it is OK for an attacker to steal my address info, pictures etc just because I had the audacity to store them online with everything else in my phone??
The flip side of this predicament is the unreasonably high pedestal that nudity is place upon..
Shame of one's own nakedness is a victorian invention..
From this fabricated shame, we've also created faux modesty.. and from there, began the forbidden allure that is today's prevailing view of nudity..
So... this technological fall out is again, a re-balancing of our value system with respect to acceptable human image and behavior..
This has nothing to do with modesty. I had someone from World of Warcraft hack me through Skype and steal photos of me and post them on Imgur and link them all over Twitch. It was the violation of my privacy. I took those pictures for ONE person to see and instead hundreds of thousands of people saw them.
I am not ashamed of my body in the least. I don't care about being "slut" shamed over taking nude photographs for my boyfriend.
I care about 1) my family seeing me naked in a sexual way, 2) my privacy being invaded and then subsequently shared with the world.
I would feel the same way about a stranger peeping through my window. VIOLATED.
The EXACT thing you described, is the EXACT issue I'm talking about..
Why should you care if ANYONE including family sees you naked.. Hell they wiped your ass before you could do it yourself...
It is INDEED slut-shaming... and that specific double standard ontop of an already unreasonable quota for modesty, IS the scale that is being tipped today, as softcore migrates to mainstream, and the ever growing presence and ease of access to hardcore content.
I said seeing me naked in a SEXUAL way. There's a VERY BIG difference. If I went streaking and my family saw, I wouldn't care at all. SEX (for me, at least) IS PRIVATE AND SPECIAL. I share it with VERY FEW people, by MY CHOICE. SO IT IS MY CHOICE IF ANYONE ELSE SEES ME TOUCHING MYSELF PROVOCATIVELY TO TURN ON MY PARTNER.
Until something private of yours is released to the public without your consent, you are arguing a point that is completely incorrect. I am not ashamed of being seen naked. I wear tiny bikinis and go skinny dipping and run around naked all of the time. The context of the nudity MATTERS.
There is risk involved in sending a picture of that tone, sure, but that doesn't negate the fact that the data was supposedly secure in the first place. It is not illegal NOR wrong to posses these types of pictures.
Pictures should be secure as anything-- just as your address (Physical), geo-location data from pictures, e-mail addresses and anything else personally identifiable that is stored in the cloud.
How many users opt to enter their credit card data every time an app purchase is to be made? I'm guessing a minority--we trust the app store(and android market, etc) in keeping our info safe. This trust is then extended to other areas such as keeping address info, tax information, e-mail address information, PICTURES...
So it is OK for an attacker to steal my address info, pictures etc just because I had the audacity to store them online with everything else in my phone??
I never said it was ok for anyone to steal anything, I said that it was dumb to sexty becasue of the risks.
When privacy is something that we have very little control over in this modern age of NSA and MI5/6 spying and monitoring you have to be more careful than ever.
Sexting is dumb becasue the gains are tiny, but the possible problems and downsides are so huge.
I'm not saying you're wrong but this is still victim blaming. Plainly put, this is the same as attesting tp a rape victim, male or female, is responsible for being raped because one chose to wore provocative clothing. The actual rapist had nothing to do with that right??
THISThe EXACT thing you described, is the EXACT issue I'm talking about..I said seeing me naked in a SEXUAL way. There's a VERY BIG difference. If I went streaking and my family saw, I wouldn't care at all. SEX (for me, at least) IS PRIVATE AND SPECIAL. I share it with VERY FEW people, by MY CHOICE. SO IT IS MY CHOICE IF ANYONE ELSE SEES ME TOUCHING MYSELF PROVOCATIVELY TO TURN ON MY PARTNER.
Why should you care if ANYONE including family sees you naked.. Hell they wiped your ass before you could do it yourself...
It is INDEED slut-shaming... and that specific double standard ontop of an already unreasonable quota for modesty, IS the scale that is being tipped today, as softcore migrates to mainstream, and the ever growing presence and ease of access to hardcore content.
Until something private of yours is released to the public without your consent, you are arguing a point that is completely incorrect. I am not ashamed of being seen naked. I wear tiny bikinis and go skinny dipping and run around naked all of the time. The context of the nudity MATTERS.
There is risk involved in sending a picture of that tone, sure, but that doesn't negate the fact that the data was supposedly secure in the first place. It is not illegal NOR wrong to posses these types of pictures.
Pictures should be secure as anything-- just as your address (Physical), geo-location data from pictures, e-mail addresses and anything else personally identifiable that is stored in the cloud.
How many users opt to enter their credit card data every time an app purchase is to be made? I'm guessing a minority--we trust the app store(and android market, etc) in keeping our info safe. This trust is then extended to other areas such as keeping address info, tax information, e-mail address information, PICTURES...
So it is OK for an attacker to steal my address info, pictures etc just because I had the audacity to store them online with everything else in my phone??
I never said it was ok for anyone to steal anything, I said that it was dumb to sexty becasue of the risks.
When privacy is something that we have very little control over in this modern age of NSA and MI5/6 spying and monitoring you have to be more careful than ever.
Sexting is dumb becasue the gains are tiny, but the possible problems and downsides are so huge.
I'm not saying you're wrong but this is still victim blaming. Plainly put, this is the same as attesting tp a rape victim, male or female, is responsible for being raped because one chose to wore provocative clothing. The actual rapist had nothing to do with that right??
There is risk involved in sending a picture of that tone, sure, but that doesn't negate the fact that the data was supposedly secure in the first place. It is not illegal NOR wrong to posses these types of pictures.
Pictures should be secure as anything-- just as your address (Physical), geo-location data from pictures, e-mail addresses and anything else personally identifiable that is stored in the cloud.
How many users opt to enter their credit card data every time an app purchase is to be made? I'm guessing a minority--we trust the app store(and android market, etc) in keeping our info safe. This trust is then extended to other areas such as keeping address info, tax information, e-mail address information, PICTURES...
So it is OK for an attacker to steal my address info, pictures etc just because I had the audacity to store them online with everything else in my phone??
I never said it was ok for anyone to steal anything, I said that it was dumb to sexty becasue of the risks.
When privacy is something that we have very little control over in this modern age of NSA and MI5/6 spying and monitoring you have to be more careful than ever.
Sexting is dumb becasue the gains are tiny, but the possible problems and downsides are so huge.
I'm not saying you're wrong but this is still victim blaming. Plainly put, this is the same as attesting tp a rape victim, male or female, is responsible for being raped because one chose to wore provocative clothing. The actual rapist had nothing to do with that right??
Doing something private in the privacy of your own home with your partner that bothers nobody isnt stupid.
Once you digitise something, anything, and uploaded it to the internet, you loose all control over said thing.
This is a horribly bad interpretation of of rights. I understand you are from the UK where the leash is much tighter--but no matter the content, whether it be school documents or pictures. These should always be safe and protected by these services that we use.
edit - for spelling
I'm not disagreeing at all, they should, but we all know they aren't. I mean **** the FBI gets there **** hacked into... and when your a public figure your much more of a target. I'm not saying its right, but its just how it is.
---I guess I should clarify what I mean by 'control' I mean that, once you upload something to the internet it is very VERY hard to remove it. I mean actually control and manage that data, you can't manage all the information on some cloud server and how that is managed etc which a physical item like a Polaroid, you can control it absolutely---
Exactly. As users, we place trust in the services that are fast becoming integral parts of human's daily lives. A LOT of people have iPhones and store information in the cloud.
Now let's swap "stolen pictures" with "credit card info". If it so happened that an attacker was able to secure some payment information from apple's iCloud --- not only would apple being paying THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS in fines, just imagine how many people would potentially stop using apple services.
Theft is theft, no matter if the item is a digital picture or credit card info. Both items are personal and supposedly locked down under a decent security policy. Companies generally don't care if personal information is stolen as long as the company does not suffer any repercussions from the loss.
Until more strict rules are placed on the storage of "personal and private" data AND fines imposed for giants like Apple who fail to implement proper protocol in securing the user's data, you can bet on more of this stuff happening in the future
I'm not disagreeing with you at all. I totally agree and when credit card information is stolen its a huge deal and **** goes down (as it is now). But that's just money, not really your privacy and you don't really have an option to not upload your credit card details to the internet or through some sort of internet connection becasue of the world we live in.
But with private images you take you have an option. And in the age of revenge porn, even if your not famous you still need to very super hyper careful what you do with images like that and 'control' is key to that, which is why I think sexting is dumb and stupid and shouldn't be encouraged BECAUSE of the dangers of people you don't want, seeing those images, due to, the lack of control you have over said images.
There is risk involved in sending a picture of that tone, sure, but that doesn't negate the fact that the data was supposedly secure in the first place. It is not illegal NOR wrong to posses these types of pictures.
Pictures should be secure as anything-- just as your address (Physical), geo-location data from pictures, e-mail addresses and anything else personally identifiable that is stored in the cloud.
How many users opt to enter their credit card data every time an app purchase is to be made? I'm guessing a minority--we trust the app store(and android market, etc) in keeping our info safe. This trust is then extended to other areas such as keeping address info, tax information, e-mail address information, PICTURES...
So it is OK for an attacker to steal my address info, pictures etc just because I had the audacity to store them online with everything else in my phone??
The flip side of this predicament is the unreasonably high pedestal that nudity is place upon..
Shame of one's own nakedness is a victorian invention..
From this fabricated shame, we've also created faux modesty.. and from there, began the forbidden allure that is today's prevailing view of nudity..
So... this technological fall out is again, a re-balancing of our value system with respect to acceptable human image and behavior..
This has nothing to do with modesty. I had someone from World of Warcraft hack me through Skype and steal photos of me and post them on Imgur and link them all over Twitch. It was the violation of my privacy. I took those pictures for ONE person to see and instead hundreds of thousands of people saw them.
I am not ashamed of my body in the least. I don't care about being "slut" shamed over taking nude photographs for my boyfriend.
I care about 1) my family seeing me naked in a sexual way, 2) my privacy being invaded and then subsequently shared with the world.
I would feel the same way about a stranger peeping through my window. VIOLATED.
The EXACT thing you described, is the EXACT issue I'm talking about..
Why should you care if ANYONE including family sees you naked.. Hell they wiped your ass before you could do it yourself...
It is INDEED slut-shaming... and that specific double standard ontop of an already unreasonable quota for modesty, IS the scale that is being tipped today, as softcore migrates to mainstream, and the ever growing presence and ease of access to hardcore content.
I said seeing me naked in a SEXUAL way. There's a VERY BIG difference. If I went streaking and my family saw, I wouldn't care at all. SEX (for me, at least) IS PRIVATE AND SPECIAL. I share it with VERY FEW people, by MY CHOICE. SO IT IS MY CHOICE IF ANYONE ELSE SEES ME TOUCHING MYSELF PROVOCATIVELY TO TURN ON MY PARTNER.
Until something private of yours is released to the public without your consent, you are arguing a point that is completely incorrect. I am not ashamed of being seen naked. I wear tiny bikinis and go skinny dipping and run around naked all of the time. The context of the nudity MATTERS.
The suppression of sexuality and nude-ness which includes (your context) is a LATE creation.
The Romans did it right... they were A-OK for all sorts of stuff that today would be abhorred and labeled under Debauchery..
There is risk involved in sending a picture of that tone, sure, but that doesn't negate the fact that the data was supposedly secure in the first place. It is not illegal NOR wrong to posses these types of pictures.
Pictures should be secure as anything-- just as your address (Physical), geo-location data from pictures, e-mail addresses and anything else personally identifiable that is stored in the cloud.
How many users opt to enter their credit card data every time an app purchase is to be made? I'm guessing a minority--we trust the app store(and android market, etc) in keeping our info safe. This trust is then extended to other areas such as keeping address info, tax information, e-mail address information, PICTURES...
So it is OK for an attacker to steal my address info, pictures etc just because I had the audacity to store them online with everything else in my phone??
I never said it was ok for anyone to steal anything, I said that it was dumb to sexty becasue of the risks.
When privacy is something that we have very little control over in this modern age of NSA and MI5/6 spying and monitoring you have to be more careful than ever.
Sexting is dumb becasue the gains are tiny, but the possible problems and downsides are so huge.
I'm not saying you're wrong but this is still victim blaming. Plainly put, this is the same as attesting tp a rape victim, male or female, is responsible for being raped because one chose to wore provocative clothing. The actual rapist had nothing to do with that right??
Absolutely...
Blame can only occur in circumstances of imperfect informational acquisition...
Thus, NO ONE is truly to blame for rape.... the true value of holding someone responsible for having committed rape is for deterrence.. it rights no wrong.
So, under such a system,, given imperfect information,, we can say that BOTH parties are to blame...
Typically, rape is performed by someone close to the rape-ee.. so... clearly there was something provocative in this relationship that occured BEFORE the act of rape...
So.... yup... Every girl should go back and read little red riding hood... You wear a red cloak in the woods.. the wolf's gonna get-cha..
Doing something private in the privacy of your own home with your partner that bothers nobody isnt stupid.
Once you digitise something, anything, and uploaded it to the internet, you loose all control over said thing.
This is a horribly bad interpretation of of rights. I understand you are from the UK where the leash is much tighter--but no matter the content, whether it be school documents or pictures. These should always be safe and protected by these services that we use.
edit - for spelling
I'm not disagreeing at all, they should, but we all know they aren't. I mean **** the FBI gets there **** hacked into... and when your a public figure your much more of a target. I'm not saying its right, but its just how it is.
---I guess I should clarify what I mean by 'control' I mean that, once you upload something to the internet it is very VERY hard to remove it. I mean actually control and manage that data, you can't manage all the information on some cloud server and how that is managed etc which a physical item like a Polaroid, you can control it absolutely---
Exactly. As users, we place trust in the services that are fast becoming integral parts of human's daily lives. A LOT of people have iPhones and store information in the cloud.
Now let's swap "stolen pictures" with "credit card info". If it so happened that an attacker was able to secure some payment information from apple's iCloud --- not only would apple being paying THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS in fines, just imagine how many people would potentially stop using apple services.
Theft is theft, no matter if the item is a digital picture or credit card info. Both items are personal and supposedly locked down under a decent security policy. Companies generally don't care if personal information is stolen as long as the company does not suffer any repercussions from the loss.
Until more strict rules are placed on the storage of "personal and private" data AND fines imposed for giants like Apple who fail to implement proper protocol in securing the user's data, you can bet on more of this stuff happening in the future
I'm not disagreeing with you at all. I totally agree and when credit card information is stolen its a huge deal and **** goes down (as it is now). But that's just money, not really your privacy and you don't really have an option to not upload your credit card details to the internet or through some sort of internet connection becasue of the world we live in.
But with private images you take you have an option. And in the age of revenge porn, even if your not famous you still need to very super hyper careful what you do with images like that and 'control' is key to that, which is why I think sexting is dumb and stupid and shouldn't be encouraged BECAUSE of the dangers of people you don't want, seeing those images, due to, the lack of control you have over said images.
There is risk involved in sending a picture of that tone, sure, but that doesn't negate the fact that the data was supposedly secure in the first place. It is not illegal NOR wrong to posses these types of pictures.
Pictures should be secure as anything-- just as your address (Physical), geo-location data from pictures, e-mail addresses and anything else personally identifiable that is stored in the cloud.
How many users opt to enter their credit card data every time an app purchase is to be made? I'm guessing a minority--we trust the app store(and android market, etc) in keeping our info safe. This trust is then extended to other areas such as keeping address info, tax information, e-mail address information, PICTURES...
So it is OK for an attacker to steal my address info, pictures etc just because I had the audacity to store them online with everything else in my phone??
The flip side of this predicament is the unreasonably high pedestal that nudity is place upon..
Shame of one's own nakedness is a victorian invention..
From this fabricated shame, we've also created faux modesty.. and from there, began the forbidden allure that is today's prevailing view of nudity..
So... this technological fall out is again, a re-balancing of our value system with respect to acceptable human image and behavior..
This has nothing to do with modesty. I had someone from World of Warcraft hack me through Skype and steal photos of me and post them on Imgur and link them all over Twitch. It was the violation of my privacy. I took those pictures for ONE person to see and instead hundreds of thousands of people saw them.
I am not ashamed of my body in the least. I don't care about being "slut" shamed over taking nude photographs for my boyfriend.
I care about 1) my family seeing me naked in a sexual way, 2) my privacy being invaded and then subsequently shared with the world.
I would feel the same way about a stranger peeping through my window. VIOLATED.
The EXACT thing you described, is the EXACT issue I'm talking about..
Why should you care if ANYONE including family sees you naked.. Hell they wiped your ass before you could do it yourself...
It is INDEED slut-shaming... and that specific double standard ontop of an already unreasonable quota for modesty, IS the scale that is being tipped today, as softcore migrates to mainstream, and the ever growing presence and ease of access to hardcore content.
I said seeing me naked in a SEXUAL way. There's a VERY BIG difference. If I went streaking and my family saw, I wouldn't care at all. SEX (for me, at least) IS PRIVATE AND SPECIAL. I share it with VERY FEW people, by MY CHOICE. SO IT IS MY CHOICE IF ANYONE ELSE SEES ME TOUCHING MYSELF PROVOCATIVELY TO TURN ON MY PARTNER.
Until something private of yours is released to the public without your consent, you are arguing a point that is completely incorrect. I am not ashamed of being seen naked. I wear tiny bikinis and go skinny dipping and run around naked all of the time. The context of the nudity MATTERS.
The suppression of sexuality and nude-ness which includes (your context) is a LATE creation.
The Romans did it right... they were A-OK for all sorts of stuff that today would be abhorred and labeled under Debauchery..
You are so beyond clueless. There are many types of people, with various levels of exhibitionism. I'm not SUPPRESSED. I was raised in a household with ZERO qualms about having sex right in the damn living room or watching porn with your kids in the same room.
My privacy preferences do not come from the media... I knew what sex was when I was in preschool.
My privacy preferences are just a part of who I am, and THAT SHOULD BE ****ING RESPECTED. NOT ARGUED WITH. I have friends in PORN, plenty of them still have PRIVATE INTIMACY. I respect them either way, and they respect that my sexual life is completely private.
There is risk involved in sending a picture of that tone, sure, but that doesn't negate the fact that the data was supposedly secure in the first place. It is not illegal NOR wrong to posses these types of pictures.
Pictures should be secure as anything-- just as your address (Physical), geo-location data from pictures, e-mail addresses and anything else personally identifiable that is stored in the cloud.
How many users opt to enter their credit card data every time an app purchase is to be made? I'm guessing a minority--we trust the app store(and android market, etc) in keeping our info safe. This trust is then extended to other areas such as keeping address info, tax information, e-mail address information, PICTURES...
So it is OK for an attacker to steal my address info, pictures etc just because I had the audacity to store them online with everything else in my phone??
I never said it was ok for anyone to steal anything, I said that it was dumb to sexty becasue of the risks.
When privacy is something that we have very little control over in this modern age of NSA and MI5/6 spying and monitoring you have to be more careful than ever.
Sexting is dumb becasue the gains are tiny, but the possible problems and downsides are so huge.
I'm not saying you're wrong but this is still victim blaming. Plainly put, this is the same as attesting tp a rape victim, male or female, is responsible for being raped because one chose to wore provocative clothing. The actual rapist had nothing to do with that right??
I really don't think that it is and I think its unfair to compare them.
Sexting is a fairly new phenomenon, but its popularity has risen drastically, along with it has the popularity and pervasiveness of revenge porn. If you can show me statics that correlate so strongly between rape and the length of skirts women have worn prior to being raped then you might have a point.
An easier comparison to make would be Sexting and Vaping, except there hasn't been time enough for proper studies to be done on the effects, but still people jump on it like it's going to literally cure cancer and that it has zero down sides.
There is risk involved in sending a picture of that tone, sure, but that doesn't negate the fact that the data was supposedly secure in the first place. It is not illegal NOR wrong to posses these types of pictures.
Pictures should be secure as anything-- just as your address (Physical), geo-location data from pictures, e-mail addresses and anything else personally identifiable that is stored in the cloud.
How many users opt to enter their credit card data every time an app purchase is to be made? I'm guessing a minority--we trust the app store(and android market, etc) in keeping our info safe. This trust is then extended to other areas such as keeping address info, tax information, e-mail address information, PICTURES...
So it is OK for an attacker to steal my address info, pictures etc just because I had the audacity to store them online with everything else in my phone??
I never said it was ok for anyone to steal anything, I said that it was dumb to sexty becasue of the risks.
When privacy is something that we have very little control over in this modern age of NSA and MI5/6 spying and monitoring you have to be more careful than ever.
Sexting is dumb becasue the gains are tiny, but the possible problems and downsides are so huge.
I'm not saying you're wrong but this is still victim blaming. Plainly put, this is the same as attesting tp a rape victim, male or female, is responsible for being raped because one chose to wore provocative clothing. The actual rapist had nothing to do with that right??
If people were being spied on via their computers/phones people wouldn't say it was their fault for using the internet and their mobile devices. If your credit card number gets stolen, again, you're not going to be told it's your fault for using your credit card instead of cash. Pretty much anything other than private photos of attractive naked women seems to have the right to be protected, if they fall into that category, YOUR FAULT FOR TAKING THEM! Like... what?
There is risk involved in sending a picture of that tone, sure, but that doesn't negate the fact that the data was supposedly secure in the first place. It is not illegal NOR wrong to posses these types of pictures.
Pictures should be secure as anything-- just as your address (Physical), geo-location data from pictures, e-mail addresses and anything else personally identifiable that is stored in the cloud.
How many users opt to enter their credit card data every time an app purchase is to be made? I'm guessing a minority--we trust the app store(and android market, etc) in keeping our info safe. This trust is then extended to other areas such as keeping address info, tax information, e-mail address information, PICTURES...
So it is OK for an attacker to steal my address info, pictures etc just because I had the audacity to store them online with everything else in my phone??
I never said it was ok for anyone to steal anything, I said that it was dumb to sexty becasue of the risks.
When privacy is something that we have very little control over in this modern age of NSA and MI5/6 spying and monitoring you have to be more careful than ever.
Sexting is dumb becasue the gains are tiny, but the possible problems and downsides are so huge.
I'm not saying you're wrong but this is still victim blaming. Plainly put, this is the same as attesting tp a rape victim, male or female, is responsible for being raped because one chose to wore provocative clothing. The actual rapist had nothing to do with that right??
Absolutely...
Blame can only occur in circumstances of imperfect informational acquisition...
Thus, NO ONE is truly to blame for rape.... the true value of holding someone responsible for having committed rape is for deterrence.. it rights no wrong.
So, under such a system,, given imperfect information,, we can say that BOTH parties are to blame...
Typically, rape is performed by someone close to the rape-ee.. so... clearly there was something provocative in this relationship that occured BEFORE the act of rape...
So.... yup... Every girl should go back and read little red riding hood... You wear a red cloak in the woods.. the wolf's gonna get-cha..
No, the person violating the other person is the person responsible for that action. Period. Thoughts are uncontrollable. Actions involve more than just a passing thought.
There is risk involved in sending a picture of that tone, sure, but that doesn't negate the fact that the data was supposedly secure in the first place. It is not illegal NOR wrong to posses these types of pictures.
Pictures should be secure as anything-- just as your address (Physical), geo-location data from pictures, e-mail addresses and anything else personally identifiable that is stored in the cloud.
How many users opt to enter their credit card data every time an app purchase is to be made? I'm guessing a minority--we trust the app store(and android market, etc) in keeping our info safe. This trust is then extended to other areas such as keeping address info, tax information, e-mail address information, PICTURES...
So it is OK for an attacker to steal my address info, pictures etc just because I had the audacity to store them online with everything else in my phone??
I never said it was ok for anyone to steal anything, I said that it was dumb to sexty becasue of the risks.
When privacy is something that we have very little control over in this modern age of NSA and MI5/6 spying and monitoring you have to be more careful than ever.
Sexting is dumb becasue the gains are tiny, but the possible problems and downsides are so huge.
I'm not saying you're wrong but this is still victim blaming. Plainly put, this is the same as attesting tp a rape victim, male or female, is responsible for being raped because one chose to wore provocative clothing. The actual rapist had nothing to do with that right??
I really don't think that it is and I think its unfair to compare them.
Sexting is a fairly new phenomenon, but its popularity has risen drastically, along with it has the popularity and pervasiveness of revenge porn. If you can show me statics that correlate so strongly between rape and the length of skirts women have worn prior to being raped then you might have a point.
An easier comparison to make would be Sexting and Vaping, except there hasn't been time enough for proper studies to be done on the effects, but still people jump on it like it's going to literally cure cancer and that it has zero down sides.
The example was not for direct comparison--just an example of victim blaming.
The world is turning into a "pass-the-buck" not my farking problem mess. I'm not surprised to be expecting otherwise
Other examples of victim blaming :
Another driver crashes into YOUR car. The crash is now your fault because you put yourself in the situation in order to be crashed into by simply commuting to work that day. But you were at a dead stop at a red light. Sorry boutcha -- your fault loser
You go to the local burger (fish and chips) joint for a quick snack and unfortunately, there are some bullies there from school/work and they sucker punch you. Dude, that is YOUR FAULT for being in the same place as the bullies.
There is risk involved in sending a picture of that tone, sure, but that doesn't negate the fact that the data was supposedly secure in the first place. It is not illegal NOR wrong to posses these types of pictures.
Pictures should be secure as anything-- just as your address (Physical), geo-location data from pictures, e-mail addresses and anything else personally identifiable that is stored in the cloud.
How many users opt to enter their credit card data every time an app purchase is to be made? I'm guessing a minority--we trust the app store(and android market, etc) in keeping our info safe. This trust is then extended to other areas such as keeping address info, tax information, e-mail address information, PICTURES...
So it is OK for an attacker to steal my address info, pictures etc just because I had the audacity to store them online with everything else in my phone??
I never said it was ok for anyone to steal anything, I said that it was dumb to sexty becasue of the risks.
When privacy is something that we have very little control over in this modern age of NSA and MI5/6 spying and monitoring you have to be more careful than ever.
Sexting is dumb becasue the gains are tiny, but the possible problems and downsides are so huge.
I'm not saying you're wrong but this is still victim blaming. Plainly put, this is the same as attesting tp a rape victim, male or female, is responsible for being raped because one chose to wore provocative clothing. The actual rapist had nothing to do with that right??
Absolutely...
Blame can only occur in circumstances of imperfect informational acquisition...
Thus, NO ONE is truly to blame for rape.... the true value of holding someone responsible for having committed rape is for deterrence.. it rights no wrong.
So, under such a system,, given imperfect information,, we can say that BOTH parties are to blame...
Typically, rape is performed by someone close to the rape-ee.. so... clearly there was something provocative in this relationship that occured BEFORE the act of rape...
So.... yup... Every girl should go back and read little red riding hood... You wear a red cloak in the woods.. the wolf's gonna get-cha..
No, the person violating the other person is the person responsible for that action. Period. Thoughts are uncontrollable. Actions involve more than just a passing thought.
Let's look at this more simply..
Adam and Eve... 2 people on earth... because ADAM outpowers EVE, he can do whatever he wants..
BOTH people are JUDGE and JURY... however, because ADAM outpowers EVE, he is the sole executioner..
What is wrong and right is irrelevant as is blame as is shame.. The greater power prevails, that is the ultimate truth behind all behavior..
For the record, I don't understand anything t4p is saying.
Doing something private in the privacy of your own home with your partner that bothers nobody isnt stupid.
Once you digitise something, anything, and uploaded it to the internet, you loose all control over said thing.
This is a horribly bad interpretation of of rights. I understand you are from the UK where the leash is much tighter--but no matter the content, whether it be school documents or pictures. These should always be safe and protected by these services that we use.
edit - for spelling
I'm not disagreeing at all, they should, but we all know they aren't. I mean **** the FBI gets there **** hacked into... and when your a public figure your much more of a target. I'm not saying its right, but its just how it is.
---I guess I should clarify what I mean by 'control' I mean that, once you upload something to the internet it is very VERY hard to remove it. I mean actually control and manage that data, you can't manage all the information on some cloud server and how that is managed etc which a physical item like a Polaroid, you can control it absolutely---
Exactly. As users, we place trust in the services that are fast becoming integral parts of human's daily lives. A LOT of people have iPhones and store information in the cloud.
Now let's swap "stolen pictures" with "credit card info". If it so happened that an attacker was able to secure some payment information from apple's iCloud --- not only would apple being paying THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS in fines, just imagine how many people would potentially stop using apple services.
Theft is theft, no matter if the item is a digital picture or credit card info. Both items are personal and supposedly locked down under a decent security policy. Companies generally don't care if personal information is stolen as long as the company does not suffer any repercussions from the loss.
Until more strict rules are placed on the storage of "personal and private" data AND fines imposed for giants like Apple who fail to implement proper protocol in securing the user's data, you can bet on more of this stuff happening in the future
I'm not disagreeing with you at all. I totally agree and when credit card information is stolen its a huge deal and **** goes down (as it is now). But that's just money, not really your privacy and you don't really have an option to not upload your credit card details to the internet or through some sort of internet connection becasue of the world we live in.
But with private images you take you have an option. And in the age of revenge porn, even if your not famous you still need to very super hyper careful what you do with images like that and 'control' is key to that, which is why I think sexting is dumb and stupid and shouldn't be encouraged BECAUSE of the dangers of people you don't want, seeing those images, due to, the lack of control you have over said images.
There is risk involved in sending a picture of that tone, sure, but that doesn't negate the fact that the data was supposedly secure in the first place. It is not illegal NOR wrong to posses these types of pictures.
Pictures should be secure as anything-- just as your address (Physical), geo-location data from pictures, e-mail addresses and anything else personally identifiable that is stored in the cloud.
How many users opt to enter their credit card data every time an app purchase is to be made? I'm guessing a minority--we trust the app store(and android market, etc) in keeping our info safe. This trust is then extended to other areas such as keeping address info, tax information, e-mail address information, PICTURES...
So it is OK for an attacker to steal my address info, pictures etc just because I had the audacity to store them online with everything else in my phone??
The flip side of this predicament is the unreasonably high pedestal that nudity is place upon..
Shame of one's own nakedness is a victorian invention..
From this fabricated shame, we've also created faux modesty.. and from there, began the forbidden allure that is today's prevailing view of nudity..
So... this technological fall out is again, a re-balancing of our value system with respect to acceptable human image and behavior..
This has nothing to do with modesty. I had someone from World of Warcraft hack me through Skype and steal photos of me and post them on Imgur and link them all over Twitch. It was the violation of my privacy. I took those pictures for ONE person to see and instead hundreds of thousands of people saw them.
I am not ashamed of my body in the least. I don't care about being "slut" shamed over taking nude photographs for my boyfriend.
I care about 1) my family seeing me naked in a sexual way, 2) my privacy being invaded and then subsequently shared with the world.
I would feel the same way about a stranger peeping through my window. VIOLATED.
The EXACT thing you described, is the EXACT issue I'm talking about..
Why should you care if ANYONE including family sees you naked.. Hell they wiped your ass before you could do it yourself...
It is INDEED slut-shaming... and that specific double standard ontop of an already unreasonable quota for modesty, IS the scale that is being tipped today, as softcore migrates to mainstream, and the ever growing presence and ease of access to hardcore content.
I said seeing me naked in a SEXUAL way. There's a VERY BIG difference. If I went streaking and my family saw, I wouldn't care at all. SEX (for me, at least) IS PRIVATE AND SPECIAL. I share it with VERY FEW people, by MY CHOICE. SO IT IS MY CHOICE IF ANYONE ELSE SEES ME TOUCHING MYSELF PROVOCATIVELY TO TURN ON MY PARTNER.
Until something private of yours is released to the public without your consent, you are arguing a point that is completely incorrect. I am not ashamed of being seen naked. I wear tiny bikinis and go skinny dipping and run around naked all of the time. The context of the nudity MATTERS.
The suppression of sexuality and nude-ness which includes (your context) is a LATE creation.
The Romans did it right... they were A-OK for all sorts of stuff that today would be abhorred and labeled under Debauchery..
You are so beyond clueless. There are many types of people, with various levels of exhibitionism. I'm not SUPPRESSED. I was raised in a household with ZERO qualms about having sex right in the damn living room or watching porn with your kids in the same room.
My privacy preferences do not come from the media... I knew what sex was when I was in preschool.
My privacy preferences are just a part of who I am, and THAT SHOULD BE ****ING RESPECTED. NOT ARGUED WITH. I have friends in PORN, plenty of them still have PRIVATE INTIMACY. I respect them either way, and they respect that my sexual life is completely private.
Something was responsible for that closeness you harbor for PRIVATE sex...
For example.. there was a case I read a while back, where a father sexually abused his daughter from an early age...
When the daughter was _rescued_ she had NO IDEA that what her father did was Wrong.. she was perfectly OK with it..
So, in YOUR CASE,, something, be it society at large, or your own interpretation of External information, must've CAUSED you to see sex as something SPECIAL and Private...
Whereas what's truly logical and al-naturale, is how animals do it..
the only reason that some animals seek seclusion is to avoid competition from other mates,, NOT out of avoiding victorian shame..
There is risk involved in sending a picture of that tone, sure, but that doesn't negate the fact that the data was supposedly secure in the first place. It is not illegal NOR wrong to posses these types of pictures.
Pictures should be secure as anything-- just as your address (Physical), geo-location data from pictures, e-mail addresses and anything else personally identifiable that is stored in the cloud.
How many users opt to enter their credit card data every time an app purchase is to be made? I'm guessing a minority--we trust the app store(and android market, etc) in keeping our info safe. This trust is then extended to other areas such as keeping address info, tax information, e-mail address information, PICTURES...
So it is OK for an attacker to steal my address info, pictures etc just because I had the audacity to store them online with everything else in my phone??
I never said it was ok for anyone to steal anything, I said that it was dumb to sexty becasue of the risks.
When privacy is something that we have very little control over in this modern age of NSA and MI5/6 spying and monitoring you have to be more careful than ever.
Sexting is dumb becasue the gains are tiny, but the possible problems and downsides are so huge.
I'm not saying you're wrong but this is still victim blaming. Plainly put, this is the same as attesting tp a rape victim, male or female, is responsible for being raped because one chose to wore provocative clothing. The actual rapist had nothing to do with that right??
I really don't think that it is and I think its unfair to compare them.
Sexting is a fairly new phenomenon, but its popularity has risen drastically, along with it has the popularity and pervasiveness of revenge porn. If you can show me statics that correlate so strongly between rape and the length of skirts women have worn prior to being raped then you might have a point.
An easier comparison to make would be Sexting and Vaping, except there hasn't been time enough for proper studies to be done on the effects, but still people jump on it like it's going to literally cure cancer and that it has zero down sides.
The example was not for direct comparison--just an example of victim blaming.
The world is turning into a "pass-the-buck" not my farking problem mess. I'm not surprised to be expecting otherwise
Other examples of victim blaming :
Another driver crashes into YOUR car. The crash is now your fault because you put yourself in the situation in order to be crashed into by simply commuting to work that day. But you were at a dead stop at a red light. Sorry boutcha -- your fault loser
You go to the local burger (fish and chips) joint for a quick snack and unfortunately, there are some bullies there from school/work and they sucker punch you. Dude, that is YOUR FAULT for being in the same place as the bullies.
But again, I'm not blaming the people who took the pictures. I have said it a fair bit by now. All I keep saying is that sexting is dumb and shouldn't be something that is encouraged or just accepted as normal for society.
So again, the people/teenagers with severe mental issues are the ones who are to blame, they stole something that wasn't theres and treated it like a commodity. Not only that but the nature of what they stole also highlights how horrible they are and that they clearly have issues with morality.
Gotcha. Even if you don't feel that sexting is normal, there are plenty that could argue in the other direction. Personally, I have no problem with sexting. Disagreeing with sexting is also completely fine.
But simply disagreeing with an (normal, completely legal <sexting>) act is NOT justification for loss of privacy.
Gotcha. Even if you don't feel that sexting is normal, there are plenty that could argue in the other direction. Personally, I have no problem with sexting. Disagreeing with sexting is also completely fine.
But simply disagreeing with an (normal, completely legal <sexting>) act is NOT justification for loss of privacy.
Glad someone finally got it. :P
The concept of sexting isn't something I have a problem with on the whole its just the fact you can't do it safely. Like I said earlia there was a Forbes post about it and the woman whoe wrote it kept telling people to sext safely, but never explained how you could do such a thing lol
Gotcha. Even if you don't feel that sexting is normal, there are plenty that could argue in the other direction. Personally, I have no problem with sexting. Disagreeing with sexting is also completely fine.
But simply disagreeing with an (normal, completely legal <sexting>) act is NOT justification for loss of privacy.
Glad someone finally got it. :P
The concept of sexting isn't something I have a problem with on the whole its just the fact you can't do it safely. Like I said earlia there was a Forbes post about it and the woman whoe wrote it kept telling people to sext safely, but never explained how you could do such a thing lol
As long as you understand you cannot use credit cards, share personal data or do anything else via the internet or mobile devices with any more amount of safety.
Gotcha. Even if you don't feel that sexting is normal, there are plenty that could argue in the other direction. Personally, I have no problem with sexting. Disagreeing with sexting is also completely fine.
But simply disagreeing with an (normal, completely legal <sexting>) act is NOT justification for loss of privacy.
Glad someone finally got it. :P
The concept of sexting isn't something I have a problem with on the whole its just the fact you can't do it safely. Like I said earlia there was a Forbes post about it and the woman whoe wrote it kept telling people to sext safely, but never explained how you could do such a thing lol
As long as you understand you cannot use credit cards, share personal data or do anything else via the internet or mobile devices with any more amount of safety.
I understand perfectly, but if someone got my credit card details etc I have security on my account so when someone does try and commit fraud on my account the bank stop it (has happened twice already and I've lost nothing). And once stopped my details are changed and I'm secure again until the next attack.
Gotcha. Even if you don't feel that sexting is normal, there are plenty that could argue in the other direction. Personally, I have no problem with sexting. Disagreeing with sexting is also completely fine.
But simply disagreeing with an (normal, completely legal <sexting>) act is NOT justification for loss of privacy.
Glad someone finally got it. :P
The concept of sexting isn't something I have a problem with on the whole its just the fact you can't do it safely. Like I said earlia there was a Forbes post about it and the woman whoe wrote it kept telling people to sext safely, but never explained how you could do such a thing lol
As long as you understand you cannot use credit cards, share personal data or do anything else via the internet or mobile devices with any more amount of safety.
I understand perfectly, but if someone got my credit card details etc I have security on my account so when someone does try and commit fraud on my account the bank stop it (has happened twice already and I've lost nothing). And once stopped my details are changed and I'm secure again until the next attack.
You know that's a red herring.MoreYou've only lost nothing because they weren't serious frauds and they were stopped by automated systems which automatically shut down your card.
It's happened to everybody at least once and it's not a big deal when it happens. You are also sometimes preemptively issued a new card sometimes out of the blue.
That's when the system works. It doesn't always work though and you've also have alot of people who have had their lives turned upside down by identity fraud. They can spend months or even years fighting this. You also have alot of elderly who fall victim to this kind of stuff. Yada yada it goes on and on. Sometimes icloud protects your password, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes you've got explicit, intimate and compromising photos of yourself in varying states of undress and sometimes you don't.
Again, it's irrelevant.
Let's use some of your own logic.
Safety right?
You know you can't walk around nude safely anymore right?
I mean, some guys might break in while you're showering and take embarrassing pictures of you.
It could happen in a dorm room. It could happen in your apt. It could even happen in your own home.
OH what's that? Your locked door protects you and it's never happened to you before? Oh ****, I knew I should have reinforced my door with titanium.
Nope well too bad, maybe you shouldn't have been walking around nude in the first place. Maybe you shouldn't take showers anymore. Maybe you should never change clothes and always stay dressed. Stay frosty, stay vigilant.
So the moral of this story is that although bad people broke into your house, violated your privacy, took your things and snapped pictures of you nude - you're an idiot because safety guru here has never had this happen to himself and you should have known that doors only protect you from so much therefore you should have never been in such a compromising nude situation inside your own place.
You keep saying that you don't blame victim but yet you keep calling the victim an idiot (because safety and common sense) and imply that they shouldn't have been doing something (legal) in the first place.
Gotcha. Even if you don't feel that sexting is normal, there are plenty that could argue in the other direction. Personally, I have no problem with sexting. Disagreeing with sexting is also completely fine.
But simply disagreeing with an (normal, completely legal <sexting>) act is NOT justification for loss of privacy.
Glad someone finally got it. :P
The concept of sexting isn't something I have a problem with on the whole its just the fact you can't do it safely. Like I said earlia there was a Forbes post about it and the woman whoe wrote it kept telling people to sext safely, but never explained how you could do such a thing lol
As long as you understand you cannot use credit cards, share personal data or do anything else via the internet or mobile devices with any more amount of safety.
I understand perfectly, but if someone got my credit card details etc I have security on my account so when someone does try and commit fraud on my account the bank stop it (has happened twice already and I've lost nothing). And once stopped my details are changed and I'm secure again until the next attack.
You know that's a red herring.MoreYou've only lost nothing because they weren't serious frauds and they were stopped by automated systems which automatically shut down your card.
It's happened to everybody at least once and it's not a big deal when it happens. You are also sometimes preemptively issued a new card sometimes out of the blue.
That's when the system works. It doesn't always work though and you've also have alot of people who have had their lives turned upside down by identity fraud. They can spend months or even years fighting this. You also have alot of elderly who fall victim to this kind of stuff. Yada yada it goes on and on. Sometimes icloud protects your password, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes you've got explicit, intimate and compromising photos of yourself in varying states of undress and sometimes you don't.
Again, it's irrelevant.
Let's use some of your own logic.
Safety right?
You know you can't walk around nude safely anymore right?
I mean, some guys might break in while you're showering and take embarrassing pictures of you.
It could happen in a dorm room. It could happen in your apt. It could even happen in your own home.
OH what's that? Your locked door protects you and it's never happened to you before? Oh ****, I knew I should have reinforced my door with titanium.
Nope well too bad, maybe you shouldn't have been walking around nude in the first place. Maybe you shouldn't take showers anymore. Maybe you should never change clothes and always stay dressed. Stay frosty, stay vigilant.
So the moral of this story is that although bad people broke into your house, violated your privacy, took your things and snapped pictures of you nude - you're an idiot because safety guru here has never had this happen to himself and you should have known that doors only protect you from so much therefore you should have never been in such a compromising nude situation inside your own place.
You keep saying that you don't blame victim but yet you keep calling the victim an idiot (because safety and common sense) and imply that they shouldn't have been doing something (legal) in the first place.
True I've never been a victim of identity theft, but I'm not sure that's got much to do with anything. I know it's a real problem and that it can be a serious issue but that's not really relate-able(?) to what has happened here.
I'm also aware that you can never be safe, I drive daily and have been in a number of car incidents non of which where my fault.
I don't see what my opinions of someone, and the fact that they are victims are related.
As someone in a long term long distance relationship I think that sexting isn't a good idea and that doing it is pretty silly becasue of the ramifications. Rather than parroting all the media in saying how horrible this is (which it is (I've had to say that alot)) I feel it would be more important and relevant to highlight that this is exactly why you shouldn't sext. This hacking issue and revenge porn are two big problems associated and linked with sexting.
If you sext you should be aware of the dangers before becoming a victim, instead all the media seem to be doing (and people in here it seems) is attacking anyone who seems to point this out and acting like sexting is perfectly normal and fine and there are no inherent problems with it, when there are very real issues.
I might think that people who sext are dumb, I'm entitled to think that. But at the same time I do not think that the victims are to blame, they are the victims of a horrible crime.
(http://i.imgur.com/d504bt9.jpg)Gotcha. Even if you don't feel that sexting is normal, there are plenty that could argue in the other direction. Personally, I have no problem with sexting. Disagreeing with sexting is also completely fine.
But simply disagreeing with an (normal, completely legal <sexting>) act is NOT justification for loss of privacy.
Glad someone finally got it. :P
The concept of sexting isn't something I have a problem with on the whole its just the fact you can't do it safely. Like I said earlia there was a Forbes post about it and the woman whoe wrote it kept telling people to sext safely, but never explained how you could do such a thing lol
As long as you understand you cannot use credit cards, share personal data or do anything else via the internet or mobile devices with any more amount of safety.
I understand perfectly, but if someone got my credit card details etc I have security on my account so when someone does try and commit fraud on my account the bank stop it (has happened twice already and I've lost nothing). And once stopped my details are changed and I'm secure again until the next attack.
You know that's a red herring.MoreYou've only lost nothing because they weren't serious frauds and they were stopped by automated systems which automatically shut down your card.
It's happened to everybody at least once and it's not a big deal when it happens. You are also sometimes preemptively issued a new card sometimes out of the blue.
That's when the system works. It doesn't always work though and you've also have alot of people who have had their lives turned upside down by identity fraud. They can spend months or even years fighting this. You also have alot of elderly who fall victim to this kind of stuff. Yada yada it goes on and on. Sometimes icloud protects your password, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes you've got explicit, intimate and compromising photos of yourself in varying states of undress and sometimes you don't.
Again, it's irrelevant.
Let's use some of your own logic.
Safety right?
You know you can't walk around nude safely anymore right?
I mean, some guys might break in while you're showering and take embarrassing pictures of you.
It could happen in a dorm room. It could happen in your apt. It could even happen in your own home.
OH what's that? Your locked door protects you and it's never happened to you before? Oh ****, I knew I should have reinforced my door with titanium.
Nope well too bad, maybe you shouldn't have been walking around nude in the first place. Maybe you shouldn't take showers anymore. Maybe you should never change clothes and always stay dressed. Stay frosty, stay vigilant.
So the moral of this story is that although bad people broke into your house, violated your privacy, took your things and snapped pictures of you nude - you're an idiot because safety guru here has never had this happen to himself and you should have known that doors only protect you from so much therefore you should have never been in such a compromising nude situation inside your own place.
You keep saying that you don't blame victim but yet you keep calling the victim an idiot (because safety and common sense) and imply that they shouldn't have been doing something (legal) in the first place.
True I've never been a victim of identity theft, but I'm not sure that's got much to do with anything. I know it's a real problem and that it can be a serious issue but that's not really relate-able(?) to what has happened here.
I'm also aware that you can never be safe, I drive daily and have been in a number of car incidents non of which where my fault.
I don't see what my opinions of someone, and the fact that they are victims are related.
As someone in a long term long distance relationship I think that sexting isn't a good idea and that doing it is pretty silly becasue of the ramifications. Rather than parroting all the media in saying how horrible this is (which it is (I've had to say that alot)) I feel it would be more important and relevant to highlight that this is exactly why you shouldn't sext. This hacking issue and revenge porn are two big problems associated and linked with sexting.
If you sext you should be aware of the dangers before becoming a victim, instead all the media seem to be doing (and people in here it seems) is attacking anyone who seems to point this out and acting like sexting is perfectly normal and fine and there are no inherent problems with it, when there are very real issues.
I might think that people who sext are dumb, I'm entitled to think that. But at the same time I do not think that the victims are to blame, they are the victims of a horrible crime.
Unless you are a public figure, who is going to steal it from you? Mine got stolen and shared via a media outlet in which I was known on. People do these things for attention and money and the people who consume the stolen media perpetuate it and keep it going. If there was no one to get attention from, there'd be no money to make and no fame to begot from stealing said private photos (nude or otherwise, for that matter).
Dumbness is quantifiable. You cannot have an opinion on someone's dumbness. You can speculate to their level of intelligence, but whether or not someone is dumb is a matter of fact. What is unwise to you, is for you to decide. What is unwise for me, is not at all for you to even consider, so no, you don't have the right to tell anyone if an action that does not affect you is stupid. Am I going to stop posting pictures of my child on Facebook so my family can see them, just because someone could steal them? Nope. I'm not going to live my life based around the fact that other people are horrible. That doesn't make me dumb, that makes me empowered.
Maybe people will stop being so thirsty for peoples' private things, namely the men of the internet who fuel the fire to acquire private things from attractive women illegally? I'm certainly not going to stop being sexy as **** in private.
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Why are you even posting anymore?
This is a forum, the whole point of it is for people to discuss things, if you can't manage to do that and resort to random off-hand insults and picture trolling shouldn't you go and grow up? It's fine for people to disagree and have differing opinions, if we didn't sites like this wouldn't exist.
Yeah its far donei was considering that actually, i'll let it go for a bit more though
Pai, lock it for all of our sanity
Unless you are a public figure, who is going to steal it from you? Mine got stolen and shared via a media outlet in which I was known on. People do these things for attention and money and the people who consume the stolen media perpetuate it and keep it going. If there was no one to get attention from, there'd be no money to make and no fame to begot from stealing said private photos (nude or otherwise, for that matter).
Dumbness is quantifiable. You cannot have an opinion on someone's dumbness. You can speculate to their level of intelligence, but whether or not someone is dumb is a matter of fact. What is unwise to you, is for you to decide. What is unwise for me, is not at all for you to even consider, so no, you don't have the right to tell anyone if an action that does not affect you is stupid. Am I going to stop posting pictures of my child on Facebook so my family can see them, just because someone could steal them? Nope. I'm not going to live my life based around the fact that other people are horrible. That doesn't make me dumb, that makes me empowered.
Maybe people will stop being so thirsty for peoples' private things, namely the men of the internet who fuel the fire to acquire private things from attractive women illegally? I'm certainly not going to stop being sexy as **** in private.
So sorry, clearly I'm the idiot here. But I'm not sure what point you or others are trying to make with identity theft and linking that to this. (I don't know about what happened to you or anyone else and I've no idea what it must be like being the victim, and have said before I'm not blaming the victims)
You cannot live in 2014 without credit cards and your information being on databases you can't control, your forced to trust those systems with that information becasue realistically you cannot live without doing so.
Sexting isn't something that anyone needs to do, it is a choice. And as I've said it's a choice I don't think is all that smart.
I also don't see what 'being sexy as **** in private' has to do with sexting and empowering anyone...
I don't have any credit cards. Or a bank account.
I don't have any credit cards. Or a bank account.
U wot m8?
Yeah its far donei was considering that actually, i'll let it go for a bit more though
Pai, lock it for all of our sanity
I don't have any credit cards. Or a bank account.
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Yeah its far donei was considering that actually, i'll let it go for a bit more though
Pai, lock it for all of our sanity
I couldn't see the posts 1 page back, it didn't load, until I jumped on VPN.. this happened in another thread yesterday too.. something wrong with GH ??
I don't have any credit cards. Or a bank account.
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Doing something private in the privacy of your own home with your partner that bothers nobody isnt stupid.
Once you digitise something, anything, and uploaded it to the internet, you loose all control over said thing.
This is a horribly bad interpretation of of rights. I understand you are from the UK where the leash is much tighter--but no matter the content, whether it be school documents or pictures. These should always be safe and protected by these services that we use.
edit - for spelling
I'm not disagreeing at all, they should, but we all know they aren't. I mean **** the FBI gets there **** hacked into... and when your a public figure your much more of a target. I'm not saying its right, but its just how it is.
---I guess I should clarify what I mean by 'control' I mean that, once you upload something to the internet it is very VERY hard to remove it. I mean actually control and manage that data, you can't manage all the information on some cloud server and how that is managed etc which a physical item like a Polaroid, you can control it absolutely---
Exactly. As users, we place trust in the services that are fast becoming integral parts of human's daily lives. A LOT of people have iPhones and store information in the cloud.
Now let's swap "stolen pictures" with "credit card info". If it so happened that an attacker was able to secure some payment information from apple's iCloud --- not only would apple being paying THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS in fines, just imagine how many people would potentially stop using apple services.
Theft is theft, no matter if the item is a digital picture or credit card info. Both items are personal and supposedly locked down under a decent security policy. Companies generally don't care if personal information is stolen as long as the company does not suffer any repercussions from the loss.
Until more strict rules are placed on the storage of "personal and private" data AND fines imposed for giants like Apple who fail to implement proper protocol in securing the user's data, you can bet on more of this stuff happening in the future
I'm not disagreeing with you at all. I totally agree and when credit card information is stolen its a huge deal and **** goes down (as it is now). But that's just money, not really your privacy and you don't really have an option to not upload your credit card details to the internet or through some sort of internet connection becasue of the world we live in.
But with private images you take you have an option. And in the age of revenge porn, even if your not famous you still need to very super hyper careful what you do with images like that and 'control' is key to that, which is why I think sexting is dumb and stupid and shouldn't be encouraged BECAUSE of the dangers of people you don't want, seeing those images, due to, the lack of control you have over said images.
There is risk involved in sending a picture of that tone, sure, but that doesn't negate the fact that the data was supposedly secure in the first place. It is not illegal NOR wrong to posses these types of pictures.
Pictures should be secure as anything-- just as your address (Physical), geo-location data from pictures, e-mail addresses and anything else personally identifiable that is stored in the cloud.
How many users opt to enter their credit card data every time an app purchase is to be made? I'm guessing a minority--we trust the app store(and android market, etc) in keeping our info safe. This trust is then extended to other areas such as keeping address info, tax information, e-mail address information, PICTURES...
So it is OK for an attacker to steal my address info, pictures etc just because I had the audacity to store them online with everything else in my phone??
The flip side of this predicament is the unreasonably high pedestal that nudity is place upon..
Shame of one's own nakedness is a victorian invention..
From this fabricated shame, we've also created faux modesty.. and from there, began the forbidden allure that is today's prevailing view of nudity..
So... this technological fall out is again, a re-balancing of our value system with respect to acceptable human image and behavior..
This has nothing to do with modesty. I had someone from World of Warcraft hack me through Skype and steal photos of me and post them on Imgur and link them all over Twitch. It was the violation of my privacy. I took those pictures for ONE person to see and instead hundreds of thousands of people saw them.
I am not ashamed of my body in the least. I don't care about being "slut" shamed over taking nude photographs for my boyfriend.
I care about 1) my family seeing me naked in a sexual way, 2) my privacy being invaded and then subsequently shared with the world.
I would feel the same way about a stranger peeping through my window. VIOLATED.
Doing something private in the privacy of your own home with your partner that bothers nobody isnt stupid.
Once you digitise something, anything, and uploaded it to the internet, you loose all control over said thing.
This is a horribly bad interpretation of of rights. I understand you are from the UK where the leash is much tighter--but no matter the content, whether it be school documents or pictures. These should always be safe and protected by these services that we use.
edit - for spelling
I'm not disagreeing at all, they should, but we all know they aren't. I mean **** the FBI gets there **** hacked into... and when your a public figure your much more of a target. I'm not saying its right, but its just how it is.
---I guess I should clarify what I mean by 'control' I mean that, once you upload something to the internet it is very VERY hard to remove it. I mean actually control and manage that data, you can't manage all the information on some cloud server and how that is managed etc which a physical item like a Polaroid, you can control it absolutely---
Exactly. As users, we place trust in the services that are fast becoming integral parts of human's daily lives. A LOT of people have iPhones and store information in the cloud.
Now let's swap "stolen pictures" with "credit card info". If it so happened that an attacker was able to secure some payment information from apple's iCloud --- not only would apple being paying THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS in fines, just imagine how many people would potentially stop using apple services.
Theft is theft, no matter if the item is a digital picture or credit card info. Both items are personal and supposedly locked down under a decent security policy. Companies generally don't care if personal information is stolen as long as the company does not suffer any repercussions from the loss.
Until more strict rules are placed on the storage of "personal and private" data AND fines imposed for giants like Apple who fail to implement proper protocol in securing the user's data, you can bet on more of this stuff happening in the future
I'm not disagreeing with you at all. I totally agree and when credit card information is stolen its a huge deal and **** goes down (as it is now). But that's just money, not really your privacy and you don't really have an option to not upload your credit card details to the internet or through some sort of internet connection becasue of the world we live in.
But with private images you take you have an option. And in the age of revenge porn, even if your not famous you still need to very super hyper careful what you do with images like that and 'control' is key to that, which is why I think sexting is dumb and stupid and shouldn't be encouraged BECAUSE of the dangers of people you don't want, seeing those images, due to, the lack of control you have over said images.
There is risk involved in sending a picture of that tone, sure, but that doesn't negate the fact that the data was supposedly secure in the first place. It is not illegal NOR wrong to posses these types of pictures.
Pictures should be secure as anything-- just as your address (Physical), geo-location data from pictures, e-mail addresses and anything else personally identifiable that is stored in the cloud.
How many users opt to enter their credit card data every time an app purchase is to be made? I'm guessing a minority--we trust the app store(and android market, etc) in keeping our info safe. This trust is then extended to other areas such as keeping address info, tax information, e-mail address information, PICTURES...
So it is OK for an attacker to steal my address info, pictures etc just because I had the audacity to store them online with everything else in my phone??
The flip side of this predicament is the unreasonably high pedestal that nudity is place upon..
Shame of one's own nakedness is a victorian invention..
From this fabricated shame, we've also created faux modesty.. and from there, began the forbidden allure that is today's prevailing view of nudity..
So... this technological fall out is again, a re-balancing of our value system with respect to acceptable human image and behavior..
This has nothing to do with modesty. I had someone from World of Warcraft hack me through Skype and steal photos of me and post them on Imgur and link them all over Twitch. It was the violation of my privacy. I took those pictures for ONE person to see and instead hundreds of thousands of people saw them.
I am not ashamed of my body in the least. I don't care about being "slut" shamed over taking nude photographs for my boyfriend.
I care about 1) my family seeing me naked in a sexual way, 2) my privacy being invaded and then subsequently shared with the world.
I would feel the same way about a stranger peeping through my window. VIOLATED.
Were you able to get the pictures taken down? You knew the guy who did it? Did you press charges?
Sorry if this is nosy I'm just curious.
Doing something private in the privacy of your own home with your partner that bothers nobody isnt stupid.
Once you digitise something, anything, and uploaded it to the internet, you loose all control over said thing.
This is a horribly bad interpretation of of rights. I understand you are from the UK where the leash is much tighter--but no matter the content, whether it be school documents or pictures. These should always be safe and protected by these services that we use.
edit - for spelling
I'm not disagreeing at all, they should, but we all know they aren't. I mean **** the FBI gets there **** hacked into... and when your a public figure your much more of a target. I'm not saying its right, but its just how it is.
---I guess I should clarify what I mean by 'control' I mean that, once you upload something to the internet it is very VERY hard to remove it. I mean actually control and manage that data, you can't manage all the information on some cloud server and how that is managed etc which a physical item like a Polaroid, you can control it absolutely---
Exactly. As users, we place trust in the services that are fast becoming integral parts of human's daily lives. A LOT of people have iPhones and store information in the cloud.
Now let's swap "stolen pictures" with "credit card info". If it so happened that an attacker was able to secure some payment information from apple's iCloud --- not only would apple being paying THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS in fines, just imagine how many people would potentially stop using apple services.
Theft is theft, no matter if the item is a digital picture or credit card info. Both items are personal and supposedly locked down under a decent security policy. Companies generally don't care if personal information is stolen as long as the company does not suffer any repercussions from the loss.
Until more strict rules are placed on the storage of "personal and private" data AND fines imposed for giants like Apple who fail to implement proper protocol in securing the user's data, you can bet on more of this stuff happening in the future
I'm not disagreeing with you at all. I totally agree and when credit card information is stolen its a huge deal and **** goes down (as it is now). But that's just money, not really your privacy and you don't really have an option to not upload your credit card details to the internet or through some sort of internet connection becasue of the world we live in.
But with private images you take you have an option. And in the age of revenge porn, even if your not famous you still need to very super hyper careful what you do with images like that and 'control' is key to that, which is why I think sexting is dumb and stupid and shouldn't be encouraged BECAUSE of the dangers of people you don't want, seeing those images, due to, the lack of control you have over said images.
There is risk involved in sending a picture of that tone, sure, but that doesn't negate the fact that the data was supposedly secure in the first place. It is not illegal NOR wrong to posses these types of pictures.
Pictures should be secure as anything-- just as your address (Physical), geo-location data from pictures, e-mail addresses and anything else personally identifiable that is stored in the cloud.
How many users opt to enter their credit card data every time an app purchase is to be made? I'm guessing a minority--we trust the app store(and android market, etc) in keeping our info safe. This trust is then extended to other areas such as keeping address info, tax information, e-mail address information, PICTURES...
So it is OK for an attacker to steal my address info, pictures etc just because I had the audacity to store them online with everything else in my phone??
The flip side of this predicament is the unreasonably high pedestal that nudity is place upon..
Shame of one's own nakedness is a victorian invention..
From this fabricated shame, we've also created faux modesty.. and from there, began the forbidden allure that is today's prevailing view of nudity..
So... this technological fall out is again, a re-balancing of our value system with respect to acceptable human image and behavior..
This has nothing to do with modesty. I had someone from World of Warcraft hack me through Skype and steal photos of me and post them on Imgur and link them all over Twitch. It was the violation of my privacy. I took those pictures for ONE person to see and instead hundreds of thousands of people saw them.
I am not ashamed of my body in the least. I don't care about being "slut" shamed over taking nude photographs for my boyfriend.
I care about 1) my family seeing me naked in a sexual way, 2) my privacy being invaded and then subsequently shared with the world.
I would feel the same way about a stranger peeping through my window. VIOLATED.
Were you able to get the pictures taken down? You knew the guy who did it? Did you press charges?
Sorry if this is nosy I'm just curious.
Yes, eventually, but the guy who hacked me had also written a program that automatically reuploaded the photos when the service returned a 404 response to the images. Fortunately for me, he had directly linked the album to someone in my WoW guild, who was underage, and I used that as leverage with the police to take me seriously and help. The guy ended up disappearing, but he did shut down the program and imgur removed all of the photos he had uploaded (there were only a few photos, but he had uploaded them hundreds of times). That was about two years ago, and for a while there was residual damage, people posting links having reuploaded them themselves and I would have to contact Imgur to get them removed, but it died out after a few months. No one even brings it up on Twitch anymore, I'm pretty sure it's long forgotten now.
Doing something private in the privacy of your own home with your partner that bothers nobody isnt stupid.
Once you digitise something, anything, and uploaded it to the internet, you loose all control over said thing.
This is a horribly bad interpretation of of rights. I understand you are from the UK where the leash is much tighter--but no matter the content, whether it be school documents or pictures. These should always be safe and protected by these services that we use.
edit - for spelling
I'm not disagreeing at all, they should, but we all know they aren't. I mean **** the FBI gets there **** hacked into... and when your a public figure your much more of a target. I'm not saying its right, but its just how it is.
---I guess I should clarify what I mean by 'control' I mean that, once you upload something to the internet it is very VERY hard to remove it. I mean actually control and manage that data, you can't manage all the information on some cloud server and how that is managed etc which a physical item like a Polaroid, you can control it absolutely---
Exactly. As users, we place trust in the services that are fast becoming integral parts of human's daily lives. A LOT of people have iPhones and store information in the cloud.
Now let's swap "stolen pictures" with "credit card info". If it so happened that an attacker was able to secure some payment information from apple's iCloud --- not only would apple being paying THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS in fines, just imagine how many people would potentially stop using apple services.
Theft is theft, no matter if the item is a digital picture or credit card info. Both items are personal and supposedly locked down under a decent security policy. Companies generally don't care if personal information is stolen as long as the company does not suffer any repercussions from the loss.
Until more strict rules are placed on the storage of "personal and private" data AND fines imposed for giants like Apple who fail to implement proper protocol in securing the user's data, you can bet on more of this stuff happening in the future
I'm not disagreeing with you at all. I totally agree and when credit card information is stolen its a huge deal and **** goes down (as it is now). But that's just money, not really your privacy and you don't really have an option to not upload your credit card details to the internet or through some sort of internet connection becasue of the world we live in.
But with private images you take you have an option. And in the age of revenge porn, even if your not famous you still need to very super hyper careful what you do with images like that and 'control' is key to that, which is why I think sexting is dumb and stupid and shouldn't be encouraged BECAUSE of the dangers of people you don't want, seeing those images, due to, the lack of control you have over said images.
There is risk involved in sending a picture of that tone, sure, but that doesn't negate the fact that the data was supposedly secure in the first place. It is not illegal NOR wrong to posses these types of pictures.
Pictures should be secure as anything-- just as your address (Physical), geo-location data from pictures, e-mail addresses and anything else personally identifiable that is stored in the cloud.
How many users opt to enter their credit card data every time an app purchase is to be made? I'm guessing a minority--we trust the app store(and android market, etc) in keeping our info safe. This trust is then extended to other areas such as keeping address info, tax information, e-mail address information, PICTURES...
So it is OK for an attacker to steal my address info, pictures etc just because I had the audacity to store them online with everything else in my phone??
The flip side of this predicament is the unreasonably high pedestal that nudity is place upon..
Shame of one's own nakedness is a victorian invention..
From this fabricated shame, we've also created faux modesty.. and from there, began the forbidden allure that is today's prevailing view of nudity..
So... this technological fall out is again, a re-balancing of our value system with respect to acceptable human image and behavior..
This has nothing to do with modesty. I had someone from World of Warcraft hack me through Skype and steal photos of me and post them on Imgur and link them all over Twitch. It was the violation of my privacy. I took those pictures for ONE person to see and instead hundreds of thousands of people saw them.
I am not ashamed of my body in the least. I don't care about being "slut" shamed over taking nude photographs for my boyfriend.
I care about 1) my family seeing me naked in a sexual way, 2) my privacy being invaded and then subsequently shared with the world.
I would feel the same way about a stranger peeping through my window. VIOLATED.
Were you able to get the pictures taken down? You knew the guy who did it? Did you press charges?
Sorry if this is nosy I'm just curious.
Yes, eventually, but the guy who hacked me had also written a program that automatically reuploaded the photos when the service returned a 404 response to the images. Fortunately for me, he had directly linked the album to someone in my WoW guild, who was underage, and I used that as leverage with the police to take me seriously and help. The guy ended up disappearing, but he did shut down the program and imgur removed all of the photos he had uploaded (there were only a few photos, but he had uploaded them hundreds of times). That was about two years ago, and for a while there was residual damage, people posting links having reuploaded them themselves and I would have to contact Imgur to get them removed, but it died out after a few months. No one even brings it up on Twitch anymore, I'm pretty sure it's long forgotten now.
I'm sorry, that sucks. What was the guys motivation?
Yeah its far donei was considering that actually, i'll let it go for a bit more though
Pai, lock it for all of our sanity
I couldn't see the posts 1 page back, it didn't load, until I jumped on VPN.. this happened in another thread yesterday too.. something wrong with GH ??
Doing something private in the privacy of your own home with your partner that bothers nobody isnt stupid.
Once you digitise something, anything, and uploaded it to the internet, you loose all control over said thing.
This is a horribly bad interpretation of of rights. I understand you are from the UK where the leash is much tighter--but no matter the content, whether it be school documents or pictures. These should always be safe and protected by these services that we use.
edit - for spelling
I'm not disagreeing at all, they should, but we all know they aren't. I mean **** the FBI gets there **** hacked into... and when your a public figure your much more of a target. I'm not saying its right, but its just how it is.
---I guess I should clarify what I mean by 'control' I mean that, once you upload something to the internet it is very VERY hard to remove it. I mean actually control and manage that data, you can't manage all the information on some cloud server and how that is managed etc which a physical item like a Polaroid, you can control it absolutely---
Exactly. As users, we place trust in the services that are fast becoming integral parts of human's daily lives. A LOT of people have iPhones and store information in the cloud.
Now let's swap "stolen pictures" with "credit card info". If it so happened that an attacker was able to secure some payment information from apple's iCloud --- not only would apple being paying THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS in fines, just imagine how many people would potentially stop using apple services.
Theft is theft, no matter if the item is a digital picture or credit card info. Both items are personal and supposedly locked down under a decent security policy. Companies generally don't care if personal information is stolen as long as the company does not suffer any repercussions from the loss.
Until more strict rules are placed on the storage of "personal and private" data AND fines imposed for giants like Apple who fail to implement proper protocol in securing the user's data, you can bet on more of this stuff happening in the future
I'm not disagreeing with you at all. I totally agree and when credit card information is stolen its a huge deal and **** goes down (as it is now). But that's just money, not really your privacy and you don't really have an option to not upload your credit card details to the internet or through some sort of internet connection becasue of the world we live in.
But with private images you take you have an option. And in the age of revenge porn, even if your not famous you still need to very super hyper careful what you do with images like that and 'control' is key to that, which is why I think sexting is dumb and stupid and shouldn't be encouraged BECAUSE of the dangers of people you don't want, seeing those images, due to, the lack of control you have over said images.
There is risk involved in sending a picture of that tone, sure, but that doesn't negate the fact that the data was supposedly secure in the first place. It is not illegal NOR wrong to posses these types of pictures.
Pictures should be secure as anything-- just as your address (Physical), geo-location data from pictures, e-mail addresses and anything else personally identifiable that is stored in the cloud.
How many users opt to enter their credit card data every time an app purchase is to be made? I'm guessing a minority--we trust the app store(and android market, etc) in keeping our info safe. This trust is then extended to other areas such as keeping address info, tax information, e-mail address information, PICTURES...
So it is OK for an attacker to steal my address info, pictures etc just because I had the audacity to store them online with everything else in my phone??
The flip side of this predicament is the unreasonably high pedestal that nudity is place upon..
Shame of one's own nakedness is a victorian invention..
From this fabricated shame, we've also created faux modesty.. and from there, began the forbidden allure that is today's prevailing view of nudity..
So... this technological fall out is again, a re-balancing of our value system with respect to acceptable human image and behavior..
This has nothing to do with modesty. I had someone from World of Warcraft hack me through Skype and steal photos of me and post them on Imgur and link them all over Twitch. It was the violation of my privacy. I took those pictures for ONE person to see and instead hundreds of thousands of people saw them.
I am not ashamed of my body in the least. I don't care about being "slut" shamed over taking nude photographs for my boyfriend.
I care about 1) my family seeing me naked in a sexual way, 2) my privacy being invaded and then subsequently shared with the world.
I would feel the same way about a stranger peeping through my window. VIOLATED.
Were you able to get the pictures taken down? You knew the guy who did it? Did you press charges?
Sorry if this is nosy I'm just curious.
Yes, eventually, but the guy who hacked me had also written a program that automatically reuploaded the photos when the service returned a 404 response to the images. Fortunately for me, he had directly linked the album to someone in my WoW guild, who was underage, and I used that as leverage with the police to take me seriously and help. The guy ended up disappearing, but he did shut down the program and imgur removed all of the photos he had uploaded (there were only a few photos, but he had uploaded them hundreds of times). That was about two years ago, and for a while there was residual damage, people posting links having reuploaded them themselves and I would have to contact Imgur to get them removed, but it died out after a few months. No one even brings it up on Twitch anymore, I'm pretty sure it's long forgotten now.
I'm sorry, that sucks. What was the guys motivation?
Attention. Some of my friends are huge streamers on Twitch and several of their female friends were targeted. I was just one of a few. He wanted to be known as the guy with the access to all the "Twitch BB" nudes.
Doing something private in the privacy of your own home with your partner that bothers nobody isnt stupid.
Once you digitise something, anything, and uploaded it to the internet, you loose all control over said thing.
This is a horribly bad interpretation of of rights. I understand you are from the UK where the leash is much tighter--but no matter the content, whether it be school documents or pictures. These should always be safe and protected by these services that we use.
edit - for spelling
I'm not disagreeing at all, they should, but we all know they aren't. I mean **** the FBI gets there **** hacked into... and when your a public figure your much more of a target. I'm not saying its right, but its just how it is.
---I guess I should clarify what I mean by 'control' I mean that, once you upload something to the internet it is very VERY hard to remove it. I mean actually control and manage that data, you can't manage all the information on some cloud server and how that is managed etc which a physical item like a Polaroid, you can control it absolutely---
Exactly. As users, we place trust in the services that are fast becoming integral parts of human's daily lives. A LOT of people have iPhones and store information in the cloud.
Now let's swap "stolen pictures" with "credit card info". If it so happened that an attacker was able to secure some payment information from apple's iCloud --- not only would apple being paying THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS in fines, just imagine how many people would potentially stop using apple services.
Theft is theft, no matter if the item is a digital picture or credit card info. Both items are personal and supposedly locked down under a decent security policy. Companies generally don't care if personal information is stolen as long as the company does not suffer any repercussions from the loss.
Until more strict rules are placed on the storage of "personal and private" data AND fines imposed for giants like Apple who fail to implement proper protocol in securing the user's data, you can bet on more of this stuff happening in the future
I'm not disagreeing with you at all. I totally agree and when credit card information is stolen its a huge deal and **** goes down (as it is now). But that's just money, not really your privacy and you don't really have an option to not upload your credit card details to the internet or through some sort of internet connection becasue of the world we live in.
But with private images you take you have an option. And in the age of revenge porn, even if your not famous you still need to very super hyper careful what you do with images like that and 'control' is key to that, which is why I think sexting is dumb and stupid and shouldn't be encouraged BECAUSE of the dangers of people you don't want, seeing those images, due to, the lack of control you have over said images.
There is risk involved in sending a picture of that tone, sure, but that doesn't negate the fact that the data was supposedly secure in the first place. It is not illegal NOR wrong to posses these types of pictures.
Pictures should be secure as anything-- just as your address (Physical), geo-location data from pictures, e-mail addresses and anything else personally identifiable that is stored in the cloud.
How many users opt to enter their credit card data every time an app purchase is to be made? I'm guessing a minority--we trust the app store(and android market, etc) in keeping our info safe. This trust is then extended to other areas such as keeping address info, tax information, e-mail address information, PICTURES...
So it is OK for an attacker to steal my address info, pictures etc just because I had the audacity to store them online with everything else in my phone??
The flip side of this predicament is the unreasonably high pedestal that nudity is place upon..
Shame of one's own nakedness is a victorian invention..
From this fabricated shame, we've also created faux modesty.. and from there, began the forbidden allure that is today's prevailing view of nudity..
So... this technological fall out is again, a re-balancing of our value system with respect to acceptable human image and behavior..
This has nothing to do with modesty. I had someone from World of Warcraft hack me through Skype and steal photos of me and post them on Imgur and link them all over Twitch. It was the violation of my privacy. I took those pictures for ONE person to see and instead hundreds of thousands of people saw them.
I am not ashamed of my body in the least. I don't care about being "slut" shamed over taking nude photographs for my boyfriend.
I care about 1) my family seeing me naked in a sexual way, 2) my privacy being invaded and then subsequently shared with the world.
I would feel the same way about a stranger peeping through my window. VIOLATED.
Were you able to get the pictures taken down? You knew the guy who did it? Did you press charges?
Sorry if this is nosy I'm just curious.
Yes, eventually, but the guy who hacked me had also written a program that automatically reuploaded the photos when the service returned a 404 response to the images. Fortunately for me, he had directly linked the album to someone in my WoW guild, who was underage, and I used that as leverage with the police to take me seriously and help. The guy ended up disappearing, but he did shut down the program and imgur removed all of the photos he had uploaded (there were only a few photos, but he had uploaded them hundreds of times). That was about two years ago, and for a while there was residual damage, people posting links having reuploaded them themselves and I would have to contact Imgur to get them removed, but it died out after a few months. No one even brings it up on Twitch anymore, I'm pretty sure it's long forgotten now.
I'm sorry, that sucks. What was the guys motivation?
Attention. Some of my friends are huge streamers on Twitch and several of their female friends were targeted. I was just one of a few. He wanted to be known as the guy with the access to all the "Twitch BB" nudes.
So you leverage your boobage and troll the internet via Twitch.tv..
THis goes back.. how is it NOT somewhat your fault for seducing young hackers to steal your pictures...
The big bad wolf, vs little red riding hood... RED CAPE + Woods = Wolf bite.
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAA :D
Doing something private in the privacy of your own home with your partner that bothers nobody isnt stupid.
Once you digitise something, anything, and uploaded it to the internet, you loose all control over said thing.
This is a horribly bad interpretation of of rights. I understand you are from the UK where the leash is much tighter--but no matter the content, whether it be school documents or pictures. These should always be safe and protected by these services that we use.
edit - for spelling
I'm not disagreeing at all, they should, but we all know they aren't. I mean **** the FBI gets there **** hacked into... and when your a public figure your much more of a target. I'm not saying its right, but its just how it is.
---I guess I should clarify what I mean by 'control' I mean that, once you upload something to the internet it is very VERY hard to remove it. I mean actually control and manage that data, you can't manage all the information on some cloud server and how that is managed etc which a physical item like a Polaroid, you can control it absolutely---
Exactly. As users, we place trust in the services that are fast becoming integral parts of human's daily lives. A LOT of people have iPhones and store information in the cloud.
Now let's swap "stolen pictures" with "credit card info". If it so happened that an attacker was able to secure some payment information from apple's iCloud --- not only would apple being paying THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS in fines, just imagine how many people would potentially stop using apple services.
Theft is theft, no matter if the item is a digital picture or credit card info. Both items are personal and supposedly locked down under a decent security policy. Companies generally don't care if personal information is stolen as long as the company does not suffer any repercussions from the loss.
Until more strict rules are placed on the storage of "personal and private" data AND fines imposed for giants like Apple who fail to implement proper protocol in securing the user's data, you can bet on more of this stuff happening in the future
I'm not disagreeing with you at all. I totally agree and when credit card information is stolen its a huge deal and **** goes down (as it is now). But that's just money, not really your privacy and you don't really have an option to not upload your credit card details to the internet or through some sort of internet connection becasue of the world we live in.
But with private images you take you have an option. And in the age of revenge porn, even if your not famous you still need to very super hyper careful what you do with images like that and 'control' is key to that, which is why I think sexting is dumb and stupid and shouldn't be encouraged BECAUSE of the dangers of people you don't want, seeing those images, due to, the lack of control you have over said images.
There is risk involved in sending a picture of that tone, sure, but that doesn't negate the fact that the data was supposedly secure in the first place. It is not illegal NOR wrong to posses these types of pictures.
Pictures should be secure as anything-- just as your address (Physical), geo-location data from pictures, e-mail addresses and anything else personally identifiable that is stored in the cloud.
How many users opt to enter their credit card data every time an app purchase is to be made? I'm guessing a minority--we trust the app store(and android market, etc) in keeping our info safe. This trust is then extended to other areas such as keeping address info, tax information, e-mail address information, PICTURES...
So it is OK for an attacker to steal my address info, pictures etc just because I had the audacity to store them online with everything else in my phone??
The flip side of this predicament is the unreasonably high pedestal that nudity is place upon..
Shame of one's own nakedness is a victorian invention..
From this fabricated shame, we've also created faux modesty.. and from there, began the forbidden allure that is today's prevailing view of nudity..
So... this technological fall out is again, a re-balancing of our value system with respect to acceptable human image and behavior..
This has nothing to do with modesty. I had someone from World of Warcraft hack me through Skype and steal photos of me and post them on Imgur and link them all over Twitch. It was the violation of my privacy. I took those pictures for ONE person to see and instead hundreds of thousands of people saw them.
I am not ashamed of my body in the least. I don't care about being "slut" shamed over taking nude photographs for my boyfriend.
I care about 1) my family seeing me naked in a sexual way, 2) my privacy being invaded and then subsequently shared with the world.
I would feel the same way about a stranger peeping through my window. VIOLATED.
Were you able to get the pictures taken down? You knew the guy who did it? Did you press charges?
Sorry if this is nosy I'm just curious.
Yes, eventually, but the guy who hacked me had also written a program that automatically reuploaded the photos when the service returned a 404 response to the images. Fortunately for me, he had directly linked the album to someone in my WoW guild, who was underage, and I used that as leverage with the police to take me seriously and help. The guy ended up disappearing, but he did shut down the program and imgur removed all of the photos he had uploaded (there were only a few photos, but he had uploaded them hundreds of times). That was about two years ago, and for a while there was residual damage, people posting links having reuploaded them themselves and I would have to contact Imgur to get them removed, but it died out after a few months. No one even brings it up on Twitch anymore, I'm pretty sure it's long forgotten now.
I'm sorry, that sucks. What was the guys motivation?
Attention. Some of my friends are huge streamers on Twitch and several of their female friends were targeted. I was just one of a few. He wanted to be known as the guy with the access to all the "Twitch BB" nudes.
So you leverage your boobage and troll the internet via Twitch.tv..
THis goes back.. how is it NOT somewhat your fault for seducing young hackers to steal your pictures...
The big bad wolf, vs little red riding hood... RED CAPE + Woods = Wolf bite.
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAA :D
There is no way you're an adult. Until I see you at a KeyCon, I call bull**** on you being above the age of 18.
I'm not apologizing for having boobs. I didn't ask anyone to notice them. I've posted what, three pictures here, in the selfie thread. The last one had more than neck up SOLELY BECAUSE I WAS EXCITED ABOUT MY HAIR. Which, for me, is another way of expressive myself creatively.
You cannot handle the fact that I have a very large chest and a small frame, and wearing a $2.00 scoop-neck tank top with a cardigan sweater results in THE SLIGHTEST AMOUNT of cleavage showing. I'm sorry, have you never seen a woman before??? You act like I posted a picture of myself in lingerie!!!
Let me tell you something, bud. I've been a web developer for 14 years. I started out when I was playing EverQuest at the age of 15 and I led a prominent guild on the Nameless server, which I started AND NO ONE KNEW I WAS A FEMALE TEENAGER. We needed a website and I taught myself HTML. I leveraged that skill to make money as a teenager making websites for other guilds, too.
I grew up playing video games and sports with mainly boys and I was treated AS AN EQUAL. In my development career, not ONE TIME HAVE I EVER BEEN TREATED AS LESS THAN AN EQUAL. In the gaming world, for the post part, I am treated AS AN EQUAL. My friends who stream on Twitch I know IN REAL LIFE and from playing video games alongside them in PVP.
Right now, I work at a Fortune 500 publisher and I am the LEAD CREATIVE on an Application that is a NEW GENRE and it was MY IDEA.
I ordinarily don't respond to trolls, but I would have to say that I have been more quiet on this forum than I have anywhere else, simply because of my lack of knowledge and that I've been slowly trying to learn more about something I am so passionate about. I was a lurker on this site for longer than I've been posting and I only started posting so that I could BUY THINGS OUT OF THE CLASSIFIEDS. It makes me really, incredibly angry that you could possibly call me an attention-seeker, when your post recent thread is nothing more than a desperate cry for attention that reeks of bull****.
what is that even supposed to meanDoing something private in the privacy of your own home with your partner that bothers nobody isnt stupid.
Once you digitise something, anything, and uploaded it to the internet, you loose all control over said thing.
This is a horribly bad interpretation of of rights. I understand you are from the UK where the leash is much tighter--but no matter the content, whether it be school documents or pictures. These should always be safe and protected by these services that we use.
edit - for spelling
I'm not disagreeing at all, they should, but we all know they aren't. I mean **** the FBI gets there **** hacked into... and when your a public figure your much more of a target. I'm not saying its right, but its just how it is.
---I guess I should clarify what I mean by 'control' I mean that, once you upload something to the internet it is very VERY hard to remove it. I mean actually control and manage that data, you can't manage all the information on some cloud server and how that is managed etc which a physical item like a Polaroid, you can control it absolutely---
Exactly. As users, we place trust in the services that are fast becoming integral parts of human's daily lives. A LOT of people have iPhones and store information in the cloud.
Now let's swap "stolen pictures" with "credit card info". If it so happened that an attacker was able to secure some payment information from apple's iCloud --- not only would apple being paying THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS in fines, just imagine how many people would potentially stop using apple services.
Theft is theft, no matter if the item is a digital picture or credit card info. Both items are personal and supposedly locked down under a decent security policy. Companies generally don't care if personal information is stolen as long as the company does not suffer any repercussions from the loss.
Until more strict rules are placed on the storage of "personal and private" data AND fines imposed for giants like Apple who fail to implement proper protocol in securing the user's data, you can bet on more of this stuff happening in the future
I'm not disagreeing with you at all. I totally agree and when credit card information is stolen its a huge deal and **** goes down (as it is now). But that's just money, not really your privacy and you don't really have an option to not upload your credit card details to the internet or through some sort of internet connection becasue of the world we live in.
But with private images you take you have an option. And in the age of revenge porn, even if your not famous you still need to very super hyper careful what you do with images like that and 'control' is key to that, which is why I think sexting is dumb and stupid and shouldn't be encouraged BECAUSE of the dangers of people you don't want, seeing those images, due to, the lack of control you have over said images.
There is risk involved in sending a picture of that tone, sure, but that doesn't negate the fact that the data was supposedly secure in the first place. It is not illegal NOR wrong to posses these types of pictures.
Pictures should be secure as anything-- just as your address (Physical), geo-location data from pictures, e-mail addresses and anything else personally identifiable that is stored in the cloud.
How many users opt to enter their credit card data every time an app purchase is to be made? I'm guessing a minority--we trust the app store(and android market, etc) in keeping our info safe. This trust is then extended to other areas such as keeping address info, tax information, e-mail address information, PICTURES...
So it is OK for an attacker to steal my address info, pictures etc just because I had the audacity to store them online with everything else in my phone??
The flip side of this predicament is the unreasonably high pedestal that nudity is place upon..
Shame of one's own nakedness is a victorian invention..
From this fabricated shame, we've also created faux modesty.. and from there, began the forbidden allure that is today's prevailing view of nudity..
So... this technological fall out is again, a re-balancing of our value system with respect to acceptable human image and behavior..
This has nothing to do with modesty. I had someone from World of Warcraft hack me through Skype and steal photos of me and post them on Imgur and link them all over Twitch. It was the violation of my privacy. I took those pictures for ONE person to see and instead hundreds of thousands of people saw them.
I am not ashamed of my body in the least. I don't care about being "slut" shamed over taking nude photographs for my boyfriend.
I care about 1) my family seeing me naked in a sexual way, 2) my privacy being invaded and then subsequently shared with the world.
I would feel the same way about a stranger peeping through my window. VIOLATED.
Were you able to get the pictures taken down? You knew the guy who did it? Did you press charges?
Sorry if this is nosy I'm just curious.
Yes, eventually, but the guy who hacked me had also written a program that automatically reuploaded the photos when the service returned a 404 response to the images. Fortunately for me, he had directly linked the album to someone in my WoW guild, who was underage, and I used that as leverage with the police to take me seriously and help. The guy ended up disappearing, but he did shut down the program and imgur removed all of the photos he had uploaded (there were only a few photos, but he had uploaded them hundreds of times). That was about two years ago, and for a while there was residual damage, people posting links having reuploaded them themselves and I would have to contact Imgur to get them removed, but it died out after a few months. No one even brings it up on Twitch anymore, I'm pretty sure it's long forgotten now.
I'm sorry, that sucks. What was the guys motivation?
Attention. Some of my friends are huge streamers on Twitch and several of their female friends were targeted. I was just one of a few. He wanted to be known as the guy with the access to all the "Twitch BB" nudes.
So you leverage your boobage and troll the internet via Twitch.tv..
THis goes back.. how is it NOT somewhat your fault for seducing young hackers to steal your pictures...
The big bad wolf, vs little red riding hood... RED CAPE + Woods = Wolf bite.
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAA :D
what is that even supposed to meanDoing something private in the privacy of your own home with your partner that bothers nobody isnt stupid.
Once you digitise something, anything, and uploaded it to the internet, you loose all control over said thing.
This is a horribly bad interpretation of of rights. I understand you are from the UK where the leash is much tighter--but no matter the content, whether it be school documents or pictures. These should always be safe and protected by these services that we use.
edit - for spelling
I'm not disagreeing at all, they should, but we all know they aren't. I mean **** the FBI gets there **** hacked into... and when your a public figure your much more of a target. I'm not saying its right, but its just how it is.
---I guess I should clarify what I mean by 'control' I mean that, once you upload something to the internet it is very VERY hard to remove it. I mean actually control and manage that data, you can't manage all the information on some cloud server and how that is managed etc which a physical item like a Polaroid, you can control it absolutely---
Exactly. As users, we place trust in the services that are fast becoming integral parts of human's daily lives. A LOT of people have iPhones and store information in the cloud.
Now let's swap "stolen pictures" with "credit card info". If it so happened that an attacker was able to secure some payment information from apple's iCloud --- not only would apple being paying THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS in fines, just imagine how many people would potentially stop using apple services.
Theft is theft, no matter if the item is a digital picture or credit card info. Both items are personal and supposedly locked down under a decent security policy. Companies generally don't care if personal information is stolen as long as the company does not suffer any repercussions from the loss.
Until more strict rules are placed on the storage of "personal and private" data AND fines imposed for giants like Apple who fail to implement proper protocol in securing the user's data, you can bet on more of this stuff happening in the future
I'm not disagreeing with you at all. I totally agree and when credit card information is stolen its a huge deal and **** goes down (as it is now). But that's just money, not really your privacy and you don't really have an option to not upload your credit card details to the internet or through some sort of internet connection becasue of the world we live in.
But with private images you take you have an option. And in the age of revenge porn, even if your not famous you still need to very super hyper careful what you do with images like that and 'control' is key to that, which is why I think sexting is dumb and stupid and shouldn't be encouraged BECAUSE of the dangers of people you don't want, seeing those images, due to, the lack of control you have over said images.
There is risk involved in sending a picture of that tone, sure, but that doesn't negate the fact that the data was supposedly secure in the first place. It is not illegal NOR wrong to posses these types of pictures.
Pictures should be secure as anything-- just as your address (Physical), geo-location data from pictures, e-mail addresses and anything else personally identifiable that is stored in the cloud.
How many users opt to enter their credit card data every time an app purchase is to be made? I'm guessing a minority--we trust the app store(and android market, etc) in keeping our info safe. This trust is then extended to other areas such as keeping address info, tax information, e-mail address information, PICTURES...
So it is OK for an attacker to steal my address info, pictures etc just because I had the audacity to store them online with everything else in my phone??
The flip side of this predicament is the unreasonably high pedestal that nudity is place upon..
Shame of one's own nakedness is a victorian invention..
From this fabricated shame, we've also created faux modesty.. and from there, began the forbidden allure that is today's prevailing view of nudity..
So... this technological fall out is again, a re-balancing of our value system with respect to acceptable human image and behavior..
This has nothing to do with modesty. I had someone from World of Warcraft hack me through Skype and steal photos of me and post them on Imgur and link them all over Twitch. It was the violation of my privacy. I took those pictures for ONE person to see and instead hundreds of thousands of people saw them.
I am not ashamed of my body in the least. I don't care about being "slut" shamed over taking nude photographs for my boyfriend.
I care about 1) my family seeing me naked in a sexual way, 2) my privacy being invaded and then subsequently shared with the world.
I would feel the same way about a stranger peeping through my window. VIOLATED.
Were you able to get the pictures taken down? You knew the guy who did it? Did you press charges?
Sorry if this is nosy I'm just curious.
Yes, eventually, but the guy who hacked me had also written a program that automatically reuploaded the photos when the service returned a 404 response to the images. Fortunately for me, he had directly linked the album to someone in my WoW guild, who was underage, and I used that as leverage with the police to take me seriously and help. The guy ended up disappearing, but he did shut down the program and imgur removed all of the photos he had uploaded (there were only a few photos, but he had uploaded them hundreds of times). That was about two years ago, and for a while there was residual damage, people posting links having reuploaded them themselves and I would have to contact Imgur to get them removed, but it died out after a few months. No one even brings it up on Twitch anymore, I'm pretty sure it's long forgotten now.
I'm sorry, that sucks. What was the guys motivation?
Attention. Some of my friends are huge streamers on Twitch and several of their female friends were targeted. I was just one of a few. He wanted to be known as the guy with the access to all the "Twitch BB" nudes.
So you leverage your boobage and troll the internet via Twitch.tv..
THis goes back.. how is it NOT somewhat your fault for seducing young hackers to steal your pictures...
The big bad wolf, vs little red riding hood... RED CAPE + Woods = Wolf bite.
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAA :D
also **** off
Baldgye--we still love you bro.Ha cheers, I hadn't stop replying because I thought the reply to my post wasn't worth replying, is simply gone to sleep.
<3 for all
Keyboards unite :D
Baldgye--we still love you bro.Ha cheers, I hadn't stop replying because I thought the reply to my post wasn't worth replying, is simply gone to sleep.
<3 for all
Keyboards unite :D
But good for you not using online banking systems and not having a credit card. Though I still don't agree with your points or general argument, which is fine.
I'm pretty tired of posting on geekhack, either you hold the thoughts of the majority or your attacked and berated repeatedly. If anyone still wishes to discuss this with me pm me or add me to Steam.
slight update 4 u peeps: the leakers/distributors complain about their privacy.
TIL apparently justin bieber leaked the nudes.
thread open again if u want to discuss this
jokeslight update 4 u peeps: the leakers/distributors complain about their privacy.
TIL apparently justin bieber leaked the nudes.
thread open again if u want to discuss this
Justin bieber was the hacker?
The Verge wrote a really good piece about this latest development, worth a read.
The Verge wrote a really good piece about this latest development, worth a read.assume everything you type, search or save on your iphone or icloud account is being viewed by the entire world. Because it is.
Aubrey Plaza was a nice surprise though.
Nothing from Alison Brie, so it never could have been that amazing a leak in the first place.
Aubrey Plaza was a nice surprise though.
Keep it up hackers, I salute you (but not with my hands) :thumb:
Aubrey Plaza was a nice surprise though.
Indeed it was.
Of course, we all know who the Holy Grail is when it comes to the search for leaked photos...
Jennifer Love Hewitt.
Nothing from Alison Brie, so it never could have been that amazing a leak in the first place.
Aubrey Plaza was a nice surprise though.
Keep it up hackers, I salute you (but not with my hands) :thumb:Aubrey Plaza was a nice surprise though.
Indeed it was.
Of course, we all know who the Holy Grail is when it comes to the search for leaked photos...
Jennifer Love Hewitt.
/puke
wait reallyThe Verge wrote a really good piece about this latest development, worth a read.assume everything you type, search or save on your iphone or icloud account is being viewed by the entire world. Because it is.
This is an overstatement. Most of the crap people write and save isn't even worth looking at to most people, including the government. Think of the amount time and resources that would have to be devoted to that. I have 3,000+ images on my phone, and plenty of them are pictures of cats, accidental screenshots of my home screen and food.
The stuff people are looking for in those places is very specific. Information they can use to make money; personal information, secrets, nude photos of famous people or very attractive people and financial information.
Nothing from Alison Brie, so it never could have been that amazing a leak in the first place.**** off
Aubrey Plaza was a nice surprise though.
Keep it up hackers, I salute you (but not with my hands) :thumb:
*finishes puking*Aubrey Plaza was a nice surprise though.
Indeed it was.
Of course, we all know who the Holy Grail is when it comes to the search for leaked photos...
Jennifer Love Hewitt.
Nothing from Alison Brie, so it never could have been that amazing a leak in the first place.
Aubrey Plaza was a nice surprise though.
Keep it up hackers, I salute you (but not with my hands) :thumb:Aubrey Plaza was a nice surprise though.
Indeed it was.
Of course, we all know who the Holy Grail is when it comes to the search for leaked photos...
Jennifer Love Hewitt.
/puke
Suppose if it were Ryan Gosling, Zac Efron, and Chris Hemsworth nudes leaked it'd be fine to discuss who we all find attractive? I love double standards.
wait reallyThe Verge wrote a really good piece about this latest development, worth a read.assume everything you type, search or save on your iphone or icloud account is being viewed by the entire world. Because it is.
This is an overstatement. Most of the crap people write and save isn't even worth looking at to most people, including the government. Think of the amount time and resources that would have to be devoted to that. I have 3,000+ images on my phone, and plenty of them are pictures of cats, accidental screenshots of my home screen and food.
The stuff people are looking for in those places is very specific. Information they can use to make money; personal information, secrets, nude photos of famous people or very attractive people and financial information.
pretty sure most of your stuff is yours and safe on ur storage thingNothing from Alison Brie, so it never could have been that amazing a leak in the first place.**** off
Aubrey Plaza was a nice surprise though.
Keep it up hackers, I salute you (but not with my hands) :thumb:
*pukes**finishes puking*Aubrey Plaza was a nice surprise though.
Indeed it was.
Of course, we all know who the Holy Grail is when it comes to the search for leaked photos...
Jennifer Love Hewitt.
**** off you too
wait reallyThe Verge wrote a really good piece about this latest development, worth a read.assume everything you type, search or save on your iphone or icloud account is being viewed by the entire world. Because it is.
This is an overstatement. Most of the crap people write and save isn't even worth looking at to most people, including the government. Think of the amount time and resources that would have to be devoted to that. I have 3,000+ images on my phone, and plenty of them are pictures of cats, accidental screenshots of my home screen and food.
The stuff people are looking for in those places is very specific. Information they can use to make money; personal information, secrets, nude photos of famous people or very attractive people and financial information.
pretty sure most of your stuff is yours and safe on ur storage thing
today is the daywait reallyThe Verge wrote a really good piece about this latest development, worth a read.assume everything you type, search or save on your iphone or icloud account is being viewed by the entire world. Because it is.
This is an overstatement. Most of the crap people write and save isn't even worth looking at to most people, including the government. Think of the amount time and resources that would have to be devoted to that. I have 3,000+ images on my phone, and plenty of them are pictures of cats, accidental screenshots of my home screen and food.
The stuff people are looking for in those places is very specific. Information they can use to make money; personal information, secrets, nude photos of famous people or very attractive people and financial information.
pretty sure most of your stuff is yours and safe on ur storage thingNothing from Alison Brie, so it never could have been that amazing a leak in the first place.**** off
Aubrey Plaza was a nice surprise though.
Keep it up hackers, I salute you (but not with my hands) :thumb:
*pukes**finishes puking*Aubrey Plaza was a nice surprise though.
Indeed it was.
Of course, we all know who the Holy Grail is when it comes to the search for leaked photos...
Jennifer Love Hewitt.
**** off you too
go back to tumblr with that ****
oh i dont use icloud lolwait reallyThe Verge wrote a really good piece about this latest development, worth a read.assume everything you type, search or save on your iphone or icloud account is being viewed by the entire world. Because it is.
This is an overstatement. Most of the crap people write and save isn't even worth looking at to most people, including the government. Think of the amount time and resources that would have to be devoted to that. I have 3,000+ images on my phone, and plenty of them are pictures of cats, accidental screenshots of my home screen and food.
The stuff people are looking for in those places is very specific. Information they can use to make money; personal information, secrets, nude photos of famous people or very attractive people and financial information.
pretty sure most of your stuff is yours and safe on ur storage thing
Wrong. I use an iPhone. I back it up to the iCloud. Plenty of goodies able to be stolen there, including nudes. However, I'm not a celebrity, so at the moment, I don't have to worry about a group of hackers stealing my naughty bits. It's not worth their time.
stop trolling for attention
if you're this upset about it, you wouldn't have unlocked the thread
you're loving the attention this is getting. you def supported the hacking and are hoping to keep this discussion going when elsewhere online its pretty much gone away.
face it, this is last week's news, we're on #gamergate now.
stop trolling for attentionwell if it isnt tompty nompty, sitting on top of a collapsing wall like some clueless egg ****
if you're this upset about it, you wouldn't have unlocked the thread
you're loving the attention this is getting. you def supported the hacking and are hoping to keep this discussion going when elsewhere online its pretty much gone away.
face it, this is last week's news, we're on #gamergate now.