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geekhack Marketplace => Interest Checks => Topic started by: GhostofHarry on Thu, 04 September 2014, 11:34:46
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inquiring taihao about producing cherry profile keycaps
their reply is that its technically possible
but there are too many standard of keycap profile within cherry products (i think they do not understand the definition of cherry profile among ourselves)
other than the enter key, all of their keycaps should be able to be produced in cherry profile
so if possible, can someone provide me one specification of cherry profile keycaps?
so that we can produced cherry profile taihao keycaps next time :p
It has been nearly 5 months since last IC
New products and colour of taihao keycaps has poped up
before finishing the current GB and start a new one, lets have an IC again to see which colour set we want
TO THE POLL
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/15lcC1quXx5daKKKY2YPupQ92hzJQSx9OH697YtEotaA/viewform
Pink; Sakura; Orange; Lavender
(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=58110.0;attach=76244;image)
red and white mix (red alert?)
(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=58110.0;attach=76271;image)
green and white mix (CCnG?)
(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=58110.0;attach=76273;image)
yellow; red; black; green; blue; pink; orange; lavender; blue on white; red on white; black on white; green on white;
(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=58110.0;attach=76275;image)
Azure
(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm207/GhostofHarry/6E5B85CD8272-2.jpg)
Apple Green
(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm207/GhostofHarry/860B679C7DA0-1.jpg)
Purple
(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm207/GhostofHarry/7D2B8272-1.jpg)
Olivette
(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm207/GhostofHarry/6DF78272A85CD5B576DFA707093756DF170709375.jpg)
Dolch
(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm207/GhostofHarry/6DF78272B767D5B578ECD7DA093759ED19375.jpg)
Granite
(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm207/GhostofHarry/6DF78272C767D5B577070767D937585CD9ED19375.jpg)
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Voted for orange. Bring on the orange!
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pics aren't loading for me :eek:
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pics aren't loading for me :eek:
Me either :(
Oh GH, why hast thou forsaken me with thy non-loading pictures?
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pics aren't loading for me :eek:
Me either :(
Oh GH, why hast thou forsaken me with thy non-loading pictures?
Same.
OP: Use Imgur. Photobucket is poop.
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pics aren't loading for me :eek:
Me either :(
Oh GH, why hast thou forsaken me with thy non-loading pictures?
Same.
OP: Use Imgur. Photobucket is poop.
Actually the photobucket ones have already loaded for me. It is the GH attachments that won't load.
I have wget running in a separate window trying to download one of them - it is up to its 17th try still without luck.
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Voted for all the reverse Round 1 (from Elton) sets like RedOnWhite etc.
Plus Lavender and Azure :)
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can't see pic, can't vote :-X help ..
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can't see pic, can't vote :-X help ..
not even the images hosted in photobucket? or just the first three
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I can see the photobucket ones, just not the ones hosted on GH.
Earlier today I could see the GH ones - for a few fleeting moments the forum was running well. There are problems, mkawa is looking in to it.
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Sakura + purple.
And orange, too.
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Perhaps we can get Alps caps this time around? I'd love a set in Sakura or pink....or that nice light purple.
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Yes it would be nice to list some Alps options.
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Taihao's respond to alps keycaps 5 months ago is 500MOQ
i can ask if they would lower the MOQ to a more reasonable range
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Anyone want to fill a swimming pool with Alps keycaps with me? :))
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Taihao's respond to alps keycaps 5 months ago is 500MOQ
i can ask if they would lower the MOQ to a more reasonable range
Is it 500 MOQ per color or could you mix and match getting to MOQ with multiple sets?
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How about translucent legends for LED backlit keyboards?
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Recently manufactured TH keycap samples with two-tone style: red on white and blue on white
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Watching closely, the color of white keycap would be white with ivory or light ivory rather than pure white.
For blue one, I prefer to this kind of blue color because it is similar to RAINDROP.
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Voted and where can I buy some of those clam shells???
EDIT: Nevermind, I see EK sells them.
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I already voted, but I just realized that there are simply too many color choices to have a meaningful result.
Most likely the winning color will only have ~10 more votes than the 5th popular color and so on...
In my opinion you should eliminate the color options from your current GB and Elton's first Tai Hao GB and those that are pretty similar like either purple or sakura (I'd keep sakura because purple is readily available on originative).
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Recently manufactured TH keycap samples with two-tone style: red on white and blue on white
(Attachment Link)
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Watching closely, the color of white keycap would be white with ivory or light ivory rather than pure white.
For blue one, I prefer to this kind of blue color because it is similar to RAINDROP.
I voted for the blue and white mix. Love that rain drop look!
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Maybe we can do it like how they decide which city to hold the Olympics - hold a round 2/3 vote among those which are the most popular from the previous round. ;D
I already voted, but I just realized that there are simply too many color choices to have a meaningful result.
Most likely the winning color will only have ~10 more votes than the 5th popular color and so on...
In my opinion you should eliminate the color options from your current GB and Elton's first Tai Hao GB and those that are pretty similar like either purple or sakura (I'd keep sakura because purple is readily available on originative).
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Voted. Very interested in sakura and orange, would most likely pick up lavender too.
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I don't actually want 6 but I would buy the **** out of sakura and purple.
Thanks harry.
edit: didnt realize originative had purple [actually i forgot, i saw it a couple weeks ago] thanks lechner!
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I registered and voted because of pink and purple (also sakura)...
I hope this will push through. :pray:
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Orange for me!
That would match perfectly with the powdered aluminum orange case TJ sold me ;P
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voted!
am glad your experience wasn't so bad that you don't want to run group buys anymore, Harry!
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sakura, orange, azure, apple green, and purple are among the most popular so far!
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So will you do a second vote with only these colors now?
Will you run 3 color schemes in Round 2 again?
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So will you do a second vote with only these colors now?
Will you run 3 color schemes in Round 2 again?
is it necessary? sets are at good price trough gb, he should run them all, I know ill order 1 of each for sure.
EDIT: I would choose one between sakura and purple cause they are very similar and give the free space to Pink when the GB starts, just an opinion. Its time for TH Manly Unicorn set :-*
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So will you do a second vote with only these colors now?
Will you run 3 color schemes in Round 2 again?
is it necessary? sets are at good price trough gb, he should run them all, I know ill order 1 of each for sure.
You mean 1 of each in an eventual group buy where you have 4 to choose from, or 1 of each in the poll where there are over 10 options?
(just wondering how fanatical geekhackers are about their keycaps)
In any case I am not putting in an order again, but stand ready to help out with a max of 4 purchases should the usual [insert unflattering adjectives of your choice] folks back out.
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so you think if they are many options its unlikely for them to reach moq because people cant decide and a lot of them back out? we can have the same scenario even with 1 set running in the gb, I was just saying the colors look nice, very vibrant, chance to create somewhat handerbeit replica from TH, and prices are way better then any where else there is TH sale + we have the extra keys that no one has. Price is just too good and looks like it will be much better this time because these are not 2 tones, 1 tone color + some of them wont require reaching high moq cause they have been in production already and they have left overs.
It makes all the sense to run GB for all the colors they are popular, and if someone backs out like what happened in the last GB, well there is nothing we can do.... only thing to do is hope that it wont happen again.
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if someone backs out like what happened in the last GB, well there is nothing we can do.... only thing to do is hope that it wont happen again.
Everything you said made sense, except for this line.
Reneging on group buy commitments is probably the most common grouse on geekhack.
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then maybe we should do the most favorable colors in 2 gb, since they are 6 we should do 3 colors per each GB. was thinking for all 6 since you pay shipping once, price is right and sets look nice. We should leave it up to OP to decide.
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theres much to be learnt by me....
especially at how to handle paypal...
i think it will be safe to get 3 colours at the first round, just like the dolch taihao round
as long as we have finish gathering order of the first 3 colour in a short period of time, we can move forward to next stage like last time
the main reason we had to vote again only because it has been too long since last poll
things might have changed rite? :p
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I doubt, youll get the same response because those are the only colors that never went into any sort of GB here, expect the same results. I wish pink/salmon made the vote.... But maybe we can have pink/salmon and Classic set with black legends in the 4th GB if ur not burned out offcourse, Classic is same as the one we have now, just black legends, highly doable :)
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Didn't vote: nice colors, not so nice plastic.
Hey manufacturers, listen up: we prefer PBT and POM keycaps!
Nice colors alone is not enough for me to consider purchasing a keycap set.
Quality, in my view, comes first and looks second.
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you do realize the price of the sets and the extra layouts that comes with them right? SP DCS is just about same as TH, and set like this would cost you around $100-$120 for the same set that TH has for us at GB price of around $17-18....
I have 5 sets from the 1st GB and quality of the keys are amazing, not GMK but SP standard of quality, cant beat it for the price and layout expandability, tons of mix and match options!!!! Sorry u missed out on the first gb
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Didn't vote: nice colors, not so nice plastic.
Hey manufacturers, listen up: we prefer PBT and POM keycaps!
Nice colors alone is not enough for me to consider purchasing a keycap set.
Quality, in my view, comes first and looks second.
What makes you think you can speak for every keyboard enthusiast out there?
On Geekhack you'll find just as many people who prefer ABS as there are people who prefer PBT.
In the end it's just personal preference...
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As most people should know, I am a big supporter of Harry's TaiHao group buys.
I believe this is the best value for money keycaps there is. Simple as that.
If you want to spend $1000 on a set of keycaps, you could get Scarface metal. Great quality; they'll probably keep for long past your death.
You'll also spend, what, 30-40 times as much for Tai Hao.
Tai Hao ABS and Signature Plastics ABS - what's the difference? As a guy who has ploughed through thousands of SP keycaps in the past few months (see my selling thread in classifieds; I'm not thick skinned enough to link directly.) I don't believe SP is any superior to Tai Hao.
If you really want to buy SP, I recommend buying their SA profile. These are really solid keycaps. Otherwise SP DCS is no better than TH.
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Didn't vote: nice colors, not so nice plastic.
Hey manufacturers, listen up: we prefer PBT and POM keycaps!
Nice colors alone is not enough for me to consider purchasing a keycap set.
Quality, in my view, comes first and looks second.
What makes you think you can speak for every keyboard enthusiast out there?
On Geekhack you'll find just as many people who prefer ABS as there are people who prefer PBT.
In the end it's just personal preference...
Sorry, I spoke for myself.
I do realize that you may go with whatever you desire, why not?
And relax, please, will you? you seem kind of "jumpy" to me.
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the Red on White mix would be great with my Red Scarf II... any updates on that front GoH?
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LOVE Sakura. Sakura with Toxic Green font - or at least Apple Green (I know it's not possible, just saying!) would have been amazing....
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Any possibility of pink on white with white on pink mods?
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in for sakura if this becomes a thing again
i sketched out last time and i should've stayed
i guess orange is pretty cool too
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Is there classic beige? I just can't stand the blue on olivette (sorry olivette lovers!)
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are also inquiring taihao about producing cherry profile keycaps
their reply is that its technically possible
but there are too many standard of keycap profile within cherry products (i think they do not understand the definition of cherry profile among ourselves)
other than the enter key, all of their keycaps should be able to be produced in cherry profile
so if possible, can someone provide me one specification of cherry profile keycaps?
so that we can produced cherry profile taihao keycaps next time :p
btw for new colours, there will be a need of 500 MOQ for production or otherwise the price will be much higher :)
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Is there anywhere that we can see the results of this poll?
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are also inquiring taihao about producing cherry profile keycaps
their reply is that its technically possible
but there are too many standard of keycap profile within cherry products (i think they do not understand the definition of cherry profile among ourselves)
other than the enter key, all of their keycaps should be able to be produced in cherry profile
so if possible, can someone provide me one specification of cherry profile keycaps?
so that we can produced cherry profile taihao keycaps next time :p
btw for new colours, there will be a need of 500 MOQ for production or otherwise the price will be much higher :)
Harry then maybe we should do the 3 colors that are common and just add the orange and hope that the Orange will meet moq? we already have the purple and we should leave the purple alike for the next GB and stick with the orange, orange seems lot popular and might hit 500 MOQ.
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Is it very unlikely that the extras will include a Tsangan layout and a 6.5x spacebar as the G710+ has an irregular bottom layout :/
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Is it very unlikely that the extras will include a Tsangan layout and a 6.5x spacebar as the G710+ has an irregular bottom layout :/
Really? you do know that those sets came with Tsangan minus the x7 space bar... Don't say ur ANSI only user and want to grab as cheap as possible, news flash without the add on the GB will fail, lots of people will back out and good luck then.
Don't be cheap and selfish.
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Speaking as someone that bought a blue aluminum case the dolche and granite look pretty tight.
Any chance of add on keys for Colemak? I've reached the decision that despite the fact that my typing speed is going to be reduced and colemak is unlikely to increase my maximum speed I am still going to fritter useless time learning an irrelevant and barely used keyboard layout.
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Is it very unlikely that the extras will include a Tsangan layout and a 6.5x spacebar as the G710+ has an irregular bottom layout :/
Really? you do know that those sets came with Tsangan minus the x7 space bar... Don't say ur ANSI only user and want to grab as cheap as possible, news flash without the add on the GB will fail, lots of people will back out and good luck then.
Don't be cheap and selfish.
I was just wondering if they would have a special order for 6.5x spacebars. I just got started on keyboard keycaps so I would want to try out the caps that are available out there before considering spending money on a higher quality with better designs and keycaps with a 6.5x spacebar as don't have much money to spend on keycaps currently. I apologize if my message was interpreted as selfish.
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Cherry profile!!!
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Before I vote... How much are these sets likely to cost?
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Before I vote... How much are these sets likely to cost?
pretty cheap considering they are DS
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i'm just looking for a pink cherry profile spacebar so... pink pls :thumb:
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are also inquiring taihao about producing cherry profile keycaps
their reply is that its technically possible
but there are too many standard of keycap profile within cherry products (i think they do not understand the definition of cherry profile among ourselves)
other than the enter key, all of their keycaps should be able to be produced in cherry profile
so if possible, can someone provide me one specification of cherry profile keycaps?
so that we can produced cherry profile taihao keycaps next time :p
btw for new colours, there will be a need of 500 MOQ for production or otherwise the price will be much higher :)
Harry, I have some feedback to add.
Recently I discovered that many people really like DSA. I suspect it is for their ergodox, and also for Colemak and other custom layouts that require flat profiles.
May I suggest going for DSA with Tai Hao? Also the fact that the keycaps are all the same dimensions should make it a lot easier for Tai Hao and reduce their tooling costs (ie also reduce our costs). I had buyers competing over the same limited DSA keycaps which weren't even complete sets. I really hope to see anyone who needs DSA to get his DSA at a modest and affordable price.
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So will you do a second vote with only these colors now?
Will you run 3 color schemes in Round 2 again?
is it necessary? sets are at good price trough gb, he should run them all, I know ill order 1 of each for sure.
EDIT: I would choose one between sakura and purple cause they are very similar and give the free space to Pink when the GB starts, just an opinion. Its time for TH Manly Unicorn set :-*
I would buy both because I'm not sure which purple I would like more in real life.
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Found this post again.
Are sakura caps going to be GB'ed in the future?
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I personally think we should keep the profile that TH is having as standard, we already have GMK and SP DCS that run about the same profile and there is no doubt you cant compare SP caps with the GMK. I actually like the TH profile and would be nice if we have the color sets in this GB to be able to mix and match from the 1st GB solid colors we had and create somewhat Handerbeit replica with TH profile.
No matter how much you want to imitate it, BSP and GMK on a whole other level when it comes to keycaps, but that's why they cost more, TH profile as it is is unique just look at the stepped Caps, so unusual and attractive. TH will never be GMK no matter what, same goes for SP DCS
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I personally think we should keep the profile that TH is having as standard, we already have GMK and SP DCS that run about the same profile and there is no doubt you cant compare SP caps with the GMK. I actually like the TH profile and would be nice if we have the color sets in this GB to be able to mix and match from the 1st GB solid colors we had and create somewhat Handerbeit replica with TH profile.
No matter how much you want to imitate it, BSP and GMK on a whole other level when it comes to keycaps, but that's why they cost more, TH profile as it is is unique just look at the stepped Caps, so unusual and attractive. TH will never be GMK no matter what, same goes for SP DCS
That's a good point. While I strongly prefer Cherry profile it wouldn't be the same if Tai Hao can't recreate the thickness.
Nevertheless I am in favor of doing a "test run" just out of curiosity. Maybe a classic beige set in Tai Hao Cherry profile would be nice, to check what they came up with!
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I would get any of the grey ones. They look awesome.
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New product from Taihao!
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Cool!
Not a fan of the rubber, but cool to see something new :)
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Awesome!! I guess I can stop experiment sugru for now :D
(http://i.imgur.com/zrbfjZS.jpg)
Can't wait that groupbuy :D
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Yes it would be nice to list some Alps options.
+1 Alps FTW! Any serious thought to this OP?
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Yes it would be nice to list some Alps options.
+1 Alps FTW! Any serious thought to this OP?
sorry to break it down, but in no way alps keys will make MOQ, not enough peeps with alps boards and exactly why I haven't join any IC so far for Alps boards, nor ordered anything from Matias, its a headache for finding keys for alps boards.
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Yes it would be nice to list some Alps options.
+1 Alps FTW! Any serious thought to this OP?
sorry to break it down, but in no way alps keys will make MOQ, not enough peeps with alps boards and exactly why I haven't join any IC so far for Alps boards, nor ordered anything from Matias, its a headache for finding keys for alps boards.
You lack faith. If the set was nice, I'd get three to five at Tai Hao prices. I know you could easily hit MOQ for Alps with Tai Hao pricing with a good looking set.
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Yes it would be nice to list some Alps options.
+1 Alps FTW! Any serious thought to this OP?
sorry to break it down, but in no way alps keys will make MOQ, not enough peeps with alps boards and exactly why I haven't join any IC so far for Alps boards, nor ordered anything from Matias, its a headache for finding keys for alps boards.
You lack faith. If the set was nice, I'd get three to five at Tai Hao prices. I know you could easily hit MOQ for Alps with Tai Hao pricing with a good looking set.
As would I with MK backing this one up...what is the quoted MOQ from Tao Hao?
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Yes it would be nice to list some Alps options.
+1 Alps FTW! Any serious thought to this OP?
sorry to break it down, but in no way alps keys will make MOQ, not enough peeps with alps boards and exactly why I haven't join any IC so far for Alps boards, nor ordered anything from Matias, its a headache for finding keys for alps boards.
You lack faith. If the set was nice, I'd get three to five at Tai Hao prices. I know you could easily hit MOQ for Alps with Tai Hao pricing with a good looking set.
As would I with MK backing this one up...what is the quoted MOQ from Tao Hao?
i think earlier in the thread said 500 MOQ
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i think earlier in the thread said 500 MOQ
No, 500 MOQ for a certain color of Cherry MX. Alps would be a much higher MOQ, and would be more in the line of what the CaptBA said about it as in swimming a pool filled with them since that is what it will take. 1,000 sounds more like it.
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Voted for Green&White (but I prefer a darker, less emerald/vivid green), Dolch and Granite.
I did not understand if they are made in ABS o PBT. I don't buy ABS keycaps. PBT absolutely for me.
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Voted!
Green and white
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Red and White
Please!
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Voted for Green&White (but I prefer a darker, less emerald/vivid green), Dolch and Granite.
I did not understand if they are made in ABS o PBT. I don't buy ABS keycaps. PBT absolutely for me.
ABS Doubleshot. unfortunately in your case. But, they don't feel bad. I have a set of the red and white on the work kb and even though I'm PBT guy, these are a close textured second IMHO.
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i think earlier in the thread said 500 MOQ
No, 500 MOQ for a certain color of Cherry MX. Alps would be a much higher MOQ, and would be more in the line of what the CaptBA said about it as in swimming a pool filled with them since that is what it will take. 1,000 sounds more like it.
Yikes, that would require very serious levels of vendor support. Sounds like the Delta Blues keyset (http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/delta-blues-alps-dcs-set/) (go vote if you want Alps caps) might be more likely to succeed for now.