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Title: Ducky Thick PBT White Keycaps(blank) are ugly
Post by: maculol on Fri, 05 September 2014, 09:47:09

Hello

Just recieved Ducky Thick PBT White Keycaps(blank) from http://overclockers.co.uk/

On the top of them (i.e. where you put your fingers), there are clear marks of the cross where you fit them to your switch. (EDIT: Like either a 0.1mm'ish plateau / valley, barely able to feel it, yet it makes an ugly shadow.)

Is that normal? Looks very bad compared to my stock filco, is that the standard of pbt?


Thanks in advance

Title: Re: Ducky Thick PBT White Keycaps(blank) are ugly
Post by: spookymikal on Fri, 05 September 2014, 10:24:00

I don't suppose you have a camera of high enough quality to show some pictures of what you're talking about do you?

I'm considering getting ducky blanks in black and really hope they don't have this problem.

Title: Re: Ducky Thick PBT White Keycaps(blank) are ugly
Post by: Rewind on Fri, 05 September 2014, 10:34:37

I have a few sets of ducky pbt blanks and never ran into this problem. Are you sure they are actual ducky caps?

Title: Re: Ducky Thick PBT White Keycaps(blank) are ugly
Post by: cherpalla on Fri, 05 September 2014, 13:53:01

Sounds like fakes. Mine don't have that issue (I have 4 sets).

Title: Re: Ducky Thick PBT White Keycaps(blank) are ugly
Post by: pbtforever on Fri, 05 September 2014, 14:27:53

Quote

Is that normal? Looks very bad compared to my stock filco, is that the standard of pbt?

Yes

Title: Re: Ducky Thick PBT White Keycaps(blank) are ugly
Post by: Hyde on Fri, 05 September 2014, 20:37:12

Typically more common on longer keys such as Shift or Spacebar.  Poker II's thick PBT has them and some of the imsto PBT has them too.

I suspect it's from the shrinkage from what PBT cools down.  It's not unheard of just not sure how common it actually is.

Title: Re: Ducky Thick PBT White Keycaps(blank) are ugly
Post by: devalli on Sat, 06 September 2014, 09:59:32

I have the same issue with my Ducky THICK PBT (green w/ whites) laser engraved I got from massdrop on my Filco.
Notice the uneven surface of the white keycaps (sorry for the low quality pic).
Keycap 8 seems to be dented, and keycap J seems to have slight bump. The green keycaps that came with this set doesn't have this issue though.

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5555/14970163840_aee575e584_b.jpg)

Title: Re: Ducky Thick PBT White Keycaps(blank) are ugly
Post by: ryhanson on Sat, 06 September 2014, 10:12:38

I have the Gray/Blue etched Ducky PBT's and this is only noticeable on the spacebar. I also noticed it on the stock PBT spacebar of my Poker II as well. I've never seen this happen on ABS caps though.

Title: Re: Ducky Thick PBT White Keycaps(blank) are ugly
Post by: aicrono on Sat, 06 September 2014, 10:16:28

It also happens on ABS keys. These are some (terrible) pictures of a stock Rosewill set. They are fairly used and it wasn't just the key I took pictures of that had the issue.


(http://i.imgur.com/AJr3Nmo.gif)
(http://i.imgur.com/QkcA9PV.jpg)

Title: Re: Ducky Thick PBT White Keycaps(blank) are ugly
Post by: maculol on Sat, 06 September 2014, 13:07:16

EDIT: The defects are probably visible on 90% of the keycaps, yet the spacebar is quite nice actually.

Some pictures, not the best lightning nor post-processing(wide gamut screen keeps deleting its colour profile)

Old stock ABS filcos
(http://i.imgur.com/w6TWn0s.jpg)

New thick white ducky
(http://i.imgur.com/XcI61vP.jpg)


Now for the defects:
(http://i.imgur.com/sQvk9Zx.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/xOOCaio.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/KlQLtFK.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/TqdB9iz.jpg)

Title: Re: Ducky Thick PBT White Keycaps(blank) are ugly
Post by: Lastpilot on Sat, 06 September 2014, 13:08:51

Oh man, thanks for pointing these out, I was about to go hunting for think white PBT blanks.

Title: Re: Ducky Thick PBT White Keycaps(blank) are ugly
Post by: ynrozturk on Sat, 06 September 2014, 16:20:56

Well you don't see that often. Thanks for the heads up.

Title: Re: Ducky Thick PBT White Keycaps(blank) are ugly
Post by: oscillik on Sat, 06 September 2014, 16:22:41

I bought my first set of PBT keycaps for Cherry MX - Leopold thick 1.5mm PBT, and they're great
(http://i.imgur.com/pEu1ELY.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Uof6mVq.jpg)

also, my previous experience with PBT keycaps is with the legendary HHKB. I have two
(http://i.imgur.com/JaWBPql.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Xx4Otik.jpg)

either I've been very lucky with PBT keycaps coming out perfectly, or those Ducky keycaps are godawful.

Title: Re: Ducky Thick PBT White Keycaps(blank) are ugly
Post by: strict on Sat, 06 September 2014, 16:54:31

Quote from: maculol on Sat, 06 September 2014, 13:07:16

EDIT: The defects are probably visible on 90% of the keycaps, yet the spacebar is quite nice actually.

Some pictures, not the best lightning nor post-processing(wide gamut screen keeps deleting its colour profile)

Old stock ABS filcos

Show Image

(http://i.imgur.com/w6TWn0s.jpg)

New thick white ducky

Show Image

(http://i.imgur.com/XcI61vP.jpg)

Now for the defects:

Show Image

(http://i.imgur.com/sQvk9Zx.jpg)

Show Image

(http://i.imgur.com/xOOCaio.jpg)

Show Image

(http://i.imgur.com/KlQLtFK.jpg)

Show Image

(http://i.imgur.com/TqdB9iz.jpg)

Wow, that's disappointing. Even my el-cheapo blank white PBTs from BangGood don't look anything like that. Thank you for sharing, I know to avoid Ducky PBT now!

Title: Re: Ducky Thick PBT White Keycaps(blank) are ugly
Post by: tbc on Sat, 06 September 2014, 17:37:12

care to show some non photoshopped pics?

Title: Re: Ducky Thick PBT White Keycaps(blank) are ugly
Post by: oscillik on Sat, 06 September 2014, 17:46:50

Quote from: tbc on Sat, 06 September 2014, 17:37:12

care to show some non photoshopped pics?

whose are supposedly the shooped pics?

Title: Re: Ducky Thick PBT White Keycaps(blank) are ugly
Post by: ryhanson on Sat, 06 September 2014, 17:47:15

Wow those really are bad. Even the little bit that I have noticed on the spacebars aren't nearly that bad at all. I'm sorry man.

Title: Re: Ducky Thick PBT White Keycaps(blank) are ugly
Post by: ynrozturk on Sat, 06 September 2014, 18:39:53

Good to hear about the Leopold caps - mine should be arriving soon.

Title: Re: Ducky Thick PBT White Keycaps(blank) are ugly
Post by: tbc on Sat, 06 September 2014, 18:55:31

Quote from: oscillik on Sat, 06 September 2014, 17:46:50

Quote from: tbc on Sat, 06 September 2014, 17:37:12

care to show some non photoshopped pics?

whose are supposedly the shooped pics?

maculol

he said he PPed them.