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Title: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 23 September 2014, 10:40:54
I'm sorry if this appears as a rant and what not, but i'm just a little bit frustrated really.

Everyone thinks they're a special snowflake that is better than everyone else. "Well I deserve this because it's me, but that other guy, no, he doesn't deserve what I deserve", "Thinks didn't go my way, I'm going to complain about it to make myself feel better", "I'm always right, never in the wrong", "I'm so smart, other people are dumbies", "I did something moderately well, everyone should praise me on how well I did"
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: sobe on Tue, 23 September 2014, 10:41:48
I lol'd

But seriously, that was a dumb thread IMO. Noone forces anyone to buy an overpriced brand and get half of what you'd get elsewhere for a cheaper price.

He just needs to wait it out for that one person to bid his price, all there is to it.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: Fragil1ty on Tue, 23 September 2014, 10:42:51
Oh look at this, looks as if I'm becoming something of a celebrity around these parts, well this is ****ing cute.

Glorify me, worship me, I am your god, your superior.

I am the omega.

I lol'dBut seriously, that was a dumb thread IMO. Noone forces anyone to buy an overpriced brand and get half of what you'd get elsewhere for a cheaper price.He just needs to wait it out for that one person to bid his price, all there is to it.

The fanboyism is real.WINDUWS IS BEBST 4eva heueueueu
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 23 September 2014, 10:43:18
I lol'd

But seriously, that was a dumb thread IMO. Noone forces anyone to buy an overpriced brand and get half of what you'd get elsewhere for a cheaper price.

He just needs to wait it out for that one person to bid his price, all there is to it.

To what thread are you referring to? I must be out of the loop
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: sobe on Tue, 23 September 2014, 10:44:31
LOL, I suppose severe coincidence with the title?
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 23 September 2014, 10:44:53
yo beast how bout some switch tools?
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: Badwrench on Tue, 23 September 2014, 10:45:08
It's only going to get worse.  The first batch of high-schoolers to graduate from the "no-one left behind" rules are now trying to get into college and are blaming their teachers that they can't pass the basic entrance exams. 
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: Fragil1ty on Tue, 23 September 2014, 10:46:10
It's only going to get worse.  The first batch of high-schoolers to graduate from the "no-one left behind" rules are now trying to get into college and are blaming their teachers that they can't pass the basic entrance exams.


Evidently you did not pass high school either, with that piss poor sentence structure.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 23 September 2014, 10:46:19
I lol'd

But seriously, that was a dumb thread IMO. Noone forces anyone to buy an overpriced brand and get half of what you'd get elsewhere for a cheaper price.

He just needs to wait it out for that one person to bid his price, all there is to it.

To what thread are you referring to? I must be out of the loop


Evidently you must be a cum loving ****, 10/10.

That's not nice
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: engicoder on Tue, 23 September 2014, 10:47:41
I think it started whenever this change occurred.

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Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 September 2014, 10:49:15
um...

Man is wholly selfish.. this is by design..  you are made to be an independent little system..


Now.. whether or NOT you will decide to adopt the outward appearance of cooperative attitude depends on your need for it..

Beautiful woman.. why do so many of these have attitude issues...  Well, it's cuz their value as breeding stock is far greater than their value as conversationalists ...


There fore...  we allow, everyone allows them to simply think and say whatever, as long as the elegible male gets good children out of her..


The same could happen for a man, but less likely so, because of the nature and resource type distribution when it comes to breeding. 
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: azhdar on Tue, 23 September 2014, 10:49:48
I think it started whenever this change occurred.

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so much this
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 23 September 2014, 10:50:44
Attention mods, situation on isle 11. Well now that that's taken care of...

Frag, seriously, stop. You're only making it worse for yourself, and making it all the more entertaining to the rest of us.

Take a step back, calm the **** down, and try having an open mind. Reassess, and come back when you can post something that isn't blatantly disrespectful.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: heedpantsnow on Tue, 23 September 2014, 10:51:01
Wow. In before lock.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: Fire Brand on Tue, 23 September 2014, 10:51:49
I'm sorry if this appears as a rant and what not, but i'm just a little bit frustrated really.

Everyone thinks they're a special snowflake that is better than everyone else. "Well I deserve this because it's me, but that other guy, no, he doesn't deserve what I deserve", "Thinks didn't go my way, I'm going to complain about it to make myself feel better", "I'm always right, never in the wrong", "I'm so smart, other people are dumbies", "I did something moderately well, everyone should praise me on how well I did"

I'll admit I act like an entitled butt most of the time, and would love to say I don't but I'm pretty sure I do :/

I personally think with how I was raised I didn't get everything I wanted as my parents where very good about making me earns things, but I do think with how people are raised now with getting all these gizmos and what not most will be more and more annoying.

But what context is this to be put in just people in general?
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 September 2014, 10:53:41
I'm sorry if this appears as a rant and what not, but i'm just a little bit frustrated really.

Everyone thinks they're a special snowflake that is better than everyone else. "Well I deserve this because it's me, but that other guy, no, he doesn't deserve what I deserve", "Thinks didn't go my way, I'm going to complain about it to make myself feel better", "I'm always right, never in the wrong", "I'm so smart, other people are dumbies", "I did something moderately well, everyone should praise me on how well I did"

I'll admit I act like an entitled butt most of the time, and would love to say I don't but I'm pretty sure I do :/

I personally think with how I was raised I didn't get everything I wanted as my parents where very good about making me earns things, but I do think with how people are raised now with getting all these gizmos and what not most will be more and more annoying.

But what context is this to be put in just people in general?

It comes down to economics..

THe average standard of living has continued to rise..   THUS people have time for stuff OTHER than base survival..


between  base survival,,  and the seek for intellectual enlightenment..

THe miDDle  is when you whine about lots  of stuff you don't understand...



Natural progression.. !!
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 23 September 2014, 10:57:14
I'm sorry if this appears as a rant and what not, but i'm just a little bit frustrated really.

Everyone thinks they're a special snowflake that is better than everyone else. "Well I deserve this because it's me, but that other guy, no, he doesn't deserve what I deserve", "Thinks didn't go my way, I'm going to complain about it to make myself feel better", "I'm always right, never in the wrong", "I'm so smart, other people are dumbies", "I did something moderately well, everyone should praise me on how well I did"

I'll admit I act like an entitled butt most of the time, and would love to say I don't but I'm pretty sure I do :/

I personally think with how I was raised I didn't get everything I wanted as my parents where very good about making me earns things, but I do think with how people are raised now with getting all these gizmos and what not most will be more and more annoying.

But what context is this to be put in just people in general?

People in general. I'm student teaching at a school. If a student doesn't get something right away, they put up their hand and ask me. Which is fine. However, one student in particular, "Mr. Beast, I don't know what to do" "(me), Well, did you read the instructions" "(them) Well, no, but I still don't know what to do"

It's annoying to be asked to read something that's right in front of them AND have had the teacher explain what to do 5 minutes earlier.

And, no, I don't have a problem with students asking questions. But the whole "no question is dumb" is kinda a farce.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 September 2014, 11:00:44
I'm sorry if this appears as a rant and what not, but i'm just a little bit frustrated really.

Everyone thinks they're a special snowflake that is better than everyone else. "Well I deserve this because it's me, but that other guy, no, he doesn't deserve what I deserve", "Thinks didn't go my way, I'm going to complain about it to make myself feel better", "I'm always right, never in the wrong", "I'm so smart, other people are dumbies", "I did something moderately well, everyone should praise me on how well I did"

I'll admit I act like an entitled butt most of the time, and would love to say I don't but I'm pretty sure I do :/

I personally think with how I was raised I didn't get everything I wanted as my parents where very good about making me earns things, but I do think with how people are raised now with getting all these gizmos and what not most will be more and more annoying.

But what context is this to be put in just people in general?

People in general. I'm student teaching at a school. If a student doesn't get something right away, they put up their hand and ask me. Which is fine. However, one student in particular, "Mr. Beast, I don't know what to do" "(me), Well, did you read the instructions" "(them) Well, no, but I still don't know what to do"

It's annoying to be asked to read something that's right in front of them AND have had the teacher explain what to do 5 minutes earlier.

And, no, I don't have a problem with students asking questions. But the whole "no question is dumb" is kinda a farce.


THis is why you're a ****ty teacher..


Has it ever occured to you that   kids need to LEARN how TO- LEARN.


given how poorly funded public education is...  it's not a wonder why some kids were left behind.. even in the most basic sense..


Indeed no dumb question is a dumb question..   ONLY a good teacher (not you, YET)   would know the right answer may not necessarily be a direct implication,  rather a step back to address fundamental misgivings..



for example many kids who do poorly in calculus  actually suck at algebra..   they don't need help with calculus,   they need help with algebra..


Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 23 September 2014, 11:05:45
I'm sorry if this appears as a rant and what not, but i'm just a little bit frustrated really.

Everyone thinks they're a special snowflake that is better than everyone else. "Well I deserve this because it's me, but that other guy, no, he doesn't deserve what I deserve", "Thinks didn't go my way, I'm going to complain about it to make myself feel better", "I'm always right, never in the wrong", "I'm so smart, other people are dumbies", "I did something moderately well, everyone should praise me on how well I did"

I'll admit I act like an entitled butt most of the time, and would love to say I don't but I'm pretty sure I do :/

I personally think with how I was raised I didn't get everything I wanted as my parents where very good about making me earns things, but I do think with how people are raised now with getting all these gizmos and what not most will be more and more annoying.

But what context is this to be put in just people in general?

People in general. I'm student teaching at a school. If a student doesn't get something right away, they put up their hand and ask me. Which is fine. However, one student in particular, "Mr. Beast, I don't know what to do" "(me), Well, did you read the instructions" "(them) Well, no, but I still don't know what to do"

It's annoying to be asked to read something that's right in front of them AND have had the teacher explain what to do 5 minutes earlier.

And, no, I don't have a problem with students asking questions. But the whole "no question is dumb" is kinda a farce.


THis is why you're a ****ty teacher..


Has it ever occured to you that   kids need to LEARN how TO- LEARN.


given how poorly funded public education is...  it's not a wonder why some kids were left behind.. even in the most basic sense..


Indeed no dumb question is a dumb question..   ONLY a good teacher (not you, YET)   would know the right answer may not necessarily be a direct implication,  rather a step back to address fundamental misgivings..

Your response is laughable considering I doubt you know anything about education.

This kid is extremely smart, but he doesn't apply himself. It seems like he expect me to stand there, read instructions to him as he does his work. It's very basic reading and researching/finding answers. I doubt this kid is "left behind"
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: The Mad Professor on Tue, 23 September 2014, 11:08:32
As I posted elsewhere:

The world owes you absolutely jack ****. I firmly believe that you should fight for everything you want and ****ing earn it.

Nobody give a flying monkey's **** if you are a special snowflake. The workforce will not cater to your namby-pamby sensitive nature or to your special skills. They don't care if you're a genius or an idiot. They don't care if you're a bachelor or married with three kids and a fourth on the way. You either do the ****ing job, or you're out on your ass. Period.

Also, when you have bills to pay and/or a family to feed, there is no goddamned job that is beneath you.

Life WILL throw obstacles into your path. That is the nature of things. It's up to you to suck it up and decide whether those obstacles will be roadblocks or stepping stones.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: Signature on Tue, 23 September 2014, 11:09:01
I miss Paicrai  :'(
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 23 September 2014, 11:09:44
Thread should be titled "Are people too stupid nowadays?"

And the answer is yes. Unfortunately, as a species we have no qualifications testing for breeding rights, so the problem perpetuates itself.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 September 2014, 11:09:58
I'm sorry if this appears as a rant and what not, but i'm just a little bit frustrated really.

Everyone thinks they're a special snowflake that is better than everyone else. "Well I deserve this because it's me, but that other guy, no, he doesn't deserve what I deserve", "Thinks didn't go my way, I'm going to complain about it to make myself feel better", "I'm always right, never in the wrong", "I'm so smart, other people are dumbies", "I did something moderately well, everyone should praise me on how well I did"

I'll admit I act like an entitled butt most of the time, and would love to say I don't but I'm pretty sure I do :/

I personally think with how I was raised I didn't get everything I wanted as my parents where very good about making me earns things, but I do think with how people are raised now with getting all these gizmos and what not most will be more and more annoying.

But what context is this to be put in just people in general?

People in general. I'm student teaching at a school. If a student doesn't get something right away, they put up their hand and ask me. Which is fine. However, one student in particular, "Mr. Beast, I don't know what to do" "(me), Well, did you read the instructions" "(them) Well, no, but I still don't know what to do"

It's annoying to be asked to read something that's right in front of them AND have had the teacher explain what to do 5 minutes earlier.

And, no, I don't have a problem with students asking questions. But the whole "no question is dumb" is kinda a farce.


THis is why you're a ****ty teacher..


Has it ever occured to you that   kids need to LEARN how TO- LEARN.


given how poorly funded public education is...  it's not a wonder why some kids were left behind.. even in the most basic sense..


Indeed no dumb question is a dumb question..   ONLY a good teacher (not you, YET)   would know the right answer may not necessarily be a direct implication,  rather a step back to address fundamental misgivings..

Your response is laughable considering I doubt you know anything about education.

This kid is extremely smart, but he doesn't apply himself. It seems like he expect me to stand there, read instructions to him as he does his work. It's very basic reading and researching/finding answers. I doubt this kid is "left behind"

there are many forms of left behind...

the specific thing I'm talking about is  teaching kids HOW to learn, and also importantly WHY they need to learn THIS WAY..


You can throw a bunch of legos  at some kid...  but my point is ...  simply throwing a bunch of stuff at him is not enough..

you gotta show him that..   hey this is a toy,  you play with it.. <-  this is missing from much of the education system..



HERE do math...   look, solve like this... < this is all they give kids..

How it should be..

Ferrari costs 2.5 million,   you have this much time in your life to earn enough to afford one,  once you buy it,  You will get THIS MUCH ****...



Want some motivation to do math??
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: frosty on Tue, 23 September 2014, 11:11:55
I'm sorry but I imagined this community to have a strong bond between members.

I still really don't get why this kind of things happen. Sorry for my ignorance but I myself am pretty passive so I wouldn't know much.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 September 2014, 11:13:51
I'm sorry but I imagined this community to have a strong bond between members.

I still really don't get why this kind of things happen. Sorry for my ignorance but I myself am pretty passive so I wouldn't know much.


Dude.. kids man.. they do this.. let them do this..  they will do this enough, then find that it is NOT the optimal solution to their appeal,  and Change for the better..

(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/happy-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862507)
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: Fire Brand on Tue, 23 September 2014, 11:16:03
I'm sorry if this appears as a rant and what not, but i'm just a little bit frustrated really.

Everyone thinks they're a special snowflake that is better than everyone else. "Well I deserve this because it's me, but that other guy, no, he doesn't deserve what I deserve", "Thinks didn't go my way, I'm going to complain about it to make myself feel better", "I'm always right, never in the wrong", "I'm so smart, other people are dumbies", "I did something moderately well, everyone should praise me on how well I did"

I'll admit I act like an entitled butt most of the time, and would love to say I don't but I'm pretty sure I do :/

I personally think with how I was raised I didn't get everything I wanted as my parents where very good about making me earns things, but I do think with how people are raised now with getting all these gizmos and what not most will be more and more annoying.

But what context is this to be put in just people in general?

People in general. I'm student teaching at a school. If a student doesn't get something right away, they put up their hand and ask me. Which is fine. However, one student in particular, "Mr. Beast, I don't know what to do" "(me), Well, did you read the instructions" "(them) Well, no, but I still don't know what to do"

It's annoying to be asked to read something that's right in front of them AND have had the teacher explain what to do 5 minutes earlier.

And, no, I don't have a problem with students asking questions. But the whole "no question is dumb" is kinda a farce.

Ahh right now I understand, I have to say I myself am guilty of doing this, I'm not sure what you would be able to do just telling them to read the instructions and ignoring them is out of the question I honestly don't think there would be much I could say, although my opinion of what to do would be to ask them to try to do what they think is right, then just drop hints on what to do without doing what he wants you to which would be babying him and telling him what to do :/

Also going off on a tangent if your name is Mr Beast, best, School, Teacher, Name, EVER "Ohh what class you got today, ohh you know (Insert class) with Mr Beast!" :)
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 23 September 2014, 11:18:18
You can throw a bunch of legos  at some kid...  but my point is ...  simply throwing a bunch of stuff at him is not enough..

you gotta show him that..   hey this is a toy,  you play with it.. <-  this is missing from much of the education system..

Teaching people how to think is a dangerous game, you have to leave room for imagination (in your lego scenario). Kids are NOT dumb, throw legos at them, they'll figure out their own way to play with them.

If you really want to debate education, learn some facts about it instead of using off hand "knowledge" you overheard on a bus.

How it should be..

Ferrari costs 2.5 million,   you have this much time in your life to earn enough to afford one,  once you buy it,  You will get THIS MUCH ****...

**** like this, makes you look so ****ing stupid, it's unreal. No teacher in there right mind is going to teach kids, "buy a Ferrari, get ****"
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 September 2014, 11:22:37
You can throw a bunch of legos  at some kid...  but my point is ...  simply throwing a bunch of stuff at him is not enough..

you gotta show him that..   hey this is a toy,  you play with it.. <-  this is missing from much of the education system..

Teaching people how to think is a dangerous game, you have to leave room for imagination (in your lego scenario). Kids are NOT dumb, throw legos at them, they'll figure out their own way to play with them.

If you really want to debate education, learn some facts about it instead of using off hand "knowledge" you overheard on a bus.

My teaching experience comes from predominantly Piano. I've also taught english to geriatric Chinese immigrants to pass their citizenship exams.


At every corner.. They were missing fundamentals....

Kids whose parents push them to play the basic Fur Elise..  and they can't do it..   I get this kid,  oh he can't read sheet music or at all understand time signatures..    wonder why he couldn't play Fur Elise..


You see.. the parents THREW the piano at this kid, luckily he didn't die.. but there's a threshold for how much you can FIGURE OUT without guidance..
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 September 2014, 11:23:37

**** like this, makes you look so ****ing stupid, it's unreal. No teacher in there right mind is going to teach kids, "buy a Ferrari, get ****"


Maybe they fvking Should..  because that's the Primary if not ONLY purpose of a Ferrari over say a BMW, and they sell really really well. 
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 23 September 2014, 11:25:17
I'm sorry if this appears as a rant and what not, but i'm just a little bit frustrated really.

Everyone thinks they're a special snowflake that is better than everyone else. "Well I deserve this because it's me, but that other guy, no, he doesn't deserve what I deserve", "Thinks didn't go my way, I'm going to complain about it to make myself feel better", "I'm always right, never in the wrong", "I'm so smart, other people are dumbies", "I did something moderately well, everyone should praise me on how well I did"

I'll admit I act like an entitled butt most of the time, and would love to say I don't but I'm pretty sure I do :/

I personally think with how I was raised I didn't get everything I wanted as my parents where very good about making me earns things, but I do think with how people are raised now with getting all these gizmos and what not most will be more and more annoying.

But what context is this to be put in just people in general?

People in general. I'm student teaching at a school. If a student doesn't get something right away, they put up their hand and ask me. Which is fine. However, one student in particular, "Mr. Beast, I don't know what to do" "(me), Well, did you read the instructions" "(them) Well, no, but I still don't know what to do"

It's annoying to be asked to read something that's right in front of them AND have had the teacher explain what to do 5 minutes earlier.

And, no, I don't have a problem with students asking questions. But the whole "no question is dumb" is kinda a farce.

Ahh right now I understand, I have to say I myself am guilty of doing this, I'm not sure what you would be able to do just telling them to read the instructions and ignoring them is out of the question I honestly don't think there would be much I could say, although my opinion of what to do would be to ask them to try to do what they think is right, then just drop hints on what to do without doing what he wants you to which would be babying him and telling him what to do :/

Also going off on a tangent if your name is Mr Beast, best, School, Teacher, Name, EVER "Ohh what class you got today, ohh you know (Insert class) with Mr Beast!" :)

I don't ignore them, I ask them to read or reread the instructions and if it's still unclear, raise your hand and I'll do my very best to explain what it is they should be doing. In fact, after asking them to read/reread the instructions, I've never had to go back and explain what to do. Simply reading the instructions was enough to tell them what they should be doing.


Honestly, I think they're just expecting me to answer questions they could find in 2 minutes of reading, and I refuse to blatantly hand out answers to things that can easily be found.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: strict on Tue, 23 September 2014, 11:33:40
THis is why you're a ****ty teacher..


Has it ever occured to you that   kids need to LEARN how TO- LEARN.


given how poorly funded public education is...  it's not a wonder why some kids were left behind.. even in the most basic sense..


Indeed no dumb question is a dumb question..   ONLY a good teacher (not you, YET)   would know the right answer may not necessarily be a direct implication,  rather a step back to address fundamental misgivings..

Your response is laughable considering I doubt you know anything about education.

This kid is extremely smart, but he doesn't apply himself. It seems like he expect me to stand there, read instructions to him as he does his work. It's very basic reading and researching/finding answers. I doubt this kid is "left behind"

tp4 = word vomit machine
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 September 2014, 11:34:28
THis is why you're a ****ty teacher..


Has it ever occured to you that   kids need to LEARN how TO- LEARN.


given how poorly funded public education is...  it's not a wonder why some kids were left behind.. even in the most basic sense..


Indeed no dumb question is a dumb question..   ONLY a good teacher (not you, YET)   would know the right answer may not necessarily be a direct implication,  rather a step back to address fundamental misgivings..

Your response is laughable considering I doubt you know anything about education.

This kid is extremely smart, but he doesn't apply himself. It seems like he expect me to stand there, read instructions to him as he does his work. It's very basic reading and researching/finding answers. I doubt this kid is "left behind"

tp4 = word vomit machine


But it's good vomit.. (http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/vomiting-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862523)
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: Lurch on Tue, 23 September 2014, 11:38:15

Honestly, I think they're just expecting me to answer questions they could find in 2 minutes of reading, and I refuse to blatantly hand out answers to things that can easily be found.

This is the pain I go through with my job every day. I usually have to hand out those answers regardless...
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 23 September 2014, 11:39:01
Thread should be titled "Are people too stupid nowadays?"

And the answer is yes. Unfortunately, as a species we have no qualifications testing for breeding rights, so the problem perpetuates itself.

My sentiments exactly. Spoken like a truly logical being. :thumb:
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: heedpantsnow on Tue, 23 September 2014, 11:39:12
I've done a bit of teaching, mainly specialized skills in BSA, a bit of university seminars, and some other venues. It does seem like as time goes on students expect more and more that the answer or paradigm will be simply given to them, without any effort on their part. It's particularly potent with those born after 1989-90 (sorry if that offends anyone). Many times I've asked a student what they think about a concept, and they reply "I don't know just tell me the answer".  It's worrisome to say the least.

No need to call each other names, maybe it's better if we have a calm, honest discussion about this?
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: hcry4 on Tue, 23 September 2014, 11:40:52

Honestly, I think they're just expecting me to answer questions they could find in 2 minutes of reading, and I refuse to blatantly hand out answers to things that can easily be found.

This is the pain I go through with my job every day. I usually have to hand out those answers regardless...

Yea, I've had that experience as well.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: slip84 on Tue, 23 September 2014, 11:42:13
I won't lie. I've not read through this thread yet. Does anyone mind summing it up for me?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 23 September 2014, 11:42:53

I've done a bit of teaching, mainly specialized skills in BSA, a bit of university seminars, and some other venues. It does seem like as time goes on students expect more and more that the answer or paradigm will be simply given to them, without any effort on their part. It's particularly potent with those born after 1989-90 (sorry if that offends anyone). Many times I've asked a student what they think about a concept, and they reply "I don't know just tell me the answer".  It's worrisome to say the least.

No need to call each other names, maybe it's better if we have a calm, honest discussion about this?

Aww couldn't you have picked 91 as your cut off year?  :(

:P
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: heedpantsnow on Tue, 23 September 2014, 11:42:57

I won't lie. I've not read through this thread yet. Does anyone mind summing it up for me?

Thanks.

Lol
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 23 September 2014, 11:43:30

I won't lie. I've not read through this thread yet. Does anyone mind summing it up for me?

Thanks.

LOL I like you.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: paicrai on Tue, 23 September 2014, 11:44:31
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Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: Fire Brand on Tue, 23 September 2014, 11:45:23
I won't lie. I've not read through this thread yet. Does anyone mind summing it up for me?

Thanks.

Not going to lie you got me then.

I see what you did there

I see
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 23 September 2014, 11:45:34
I won't lie. I've not read through this thread yet. Does anyone mind summing it up for me?

Thanks.

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: saturnotaku on Tue, 23 September 2014, 11:47:14
given how poorly funded public education is...

Tell that to my property tax bill.

The school district I live in spends more than $10,000/year per student, whereas the local private and parochial schools cost a fraction of that yet they consistently kick the public school to the curb in testing.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 23 September 2014, 11:50:15
I won't lie. I've not read through this thread yet. Does anyone mind summing it up for me?

Thanks.

You're my new favorite student


^___^
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 September 2014, 11:51:05
I've done a bit of teaching, mainly specialized skills in BSA, a bit of university seminars, and some other venues. It does seem like as time goes on students expect more and more that the answer or paradigm will be simply given to them, without any effort on their part. It's particularly potent with those born after 1989-90 (sorry if that offends anyone). Many times I've asked a student what they think about a concept, and they reply "I don't know just tell me the answer".  It's worrisome to say the least.

No need to call each other names, maybe it's better if we have a calm, honest discussion about this?

Teachers exist before the birth of the students..


So, if you're a teacher, and you find that a student sucks,  it's the fault of EVERY teacher that student had before you had him..

and those teacher's failures are of the teacher's teacher's failures..

It goes on forever...

UNTIL SOMEONE TODAY...   stops and says OK,  let's go back, let me teach you some basics.. you missed it..


SO FEW teachers are willing to do this.. (****ty pay) I get it..    but come here and whine about students,  you're freaking adults..  do something about it that isn't just you being every bit an entitled Brat as the student you're pointing at..

Looking at you -beast
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 23 September 2014, 11:56:30
I've done a bit of teaching, mainly specialized skills in BSA, a bit of university seminars, and some other venues. It does seem like as time goes on students expect more and more that the answer or paradigm will be simply given to them, without any effort on their part. It's particularly potent with those born after 1989-90 (sorry if that offends anyone). Many times I've asked a student what they think about a concept, and they reply "I don't know just tell me the answer".  It's worrisome to say the least.

No need to call each other names, maybe it's better if we have a calm, honest discussion about this?

Teachers exist before the birth of the students..


So, if you're a teacher, and you find that a student sucks,  it's the fault of EVERY teacher that student had before you had him..

and those teacher's failures are of the teacher's teacher's failures..

It goes on forever...

UNTIL SOMEONE TODAY...   stops and says OK,  let's go back, let me teach you some basics.. you missed it..


SO FEW teachers are willing to do this.. (****ty pay) I get it..    but come here and whine about students,  you're freaking adults..  do something about it that isn't just you being every bit an entitled Brat as the student you're pointing at..

Looking at you -beast

How can you teacher a student who just doesn't care. The most amazing teacher won't be able to reach that student.

Half of what you're saying is untrue. I'll admit, not all teachers are great, but that can  be said about any profession. HOWEVER, a lot of teachers do reflect on their lesson plans. "hey, this didn't work with my students, what would make it better"


tp, stfu about stuff you don't know about. Stop arguing for arguments sake.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: saturnotaku on Tue, 23 September 2014, 11:58:43
(****ty pay) I get it.. 

Uh-huh (http://www.suntimes.com/data/14314316-666/database-search-for-illinois-teacher-and-administrator-salaries.html?appSession=862473800736949).

When these folks retire, their pensions will be 70% of their salaries.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 23 September 2014, 12:02:56
tp, stfu about stuff you don't know about. Stop arguing for arguments sake.

Take everything tp says with a pound of salt. He's basically a moron with a large vocabulary and narcissistic tendencies...
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 September 2014, 12:05:07
I've done a bit of teaching, mainly specialized skills in BSA, a bit of university seminars, and some other venues. It does seem like as time goes on students expect more and more that the answer or paradigm will be simply given to them, without any effort on their part. It's particularly potent with those born after 1989-90 (sorry if that offends anyone). Many times I've asked a student what they think about a concept, and they reply "I don't know just tell me the answer".  It's worrisome to say the least.

No need to call each other names, maybe it's better if we have a calm, honest discussion about this?

Teachers exist before the birth of the students..


So, if you're a teacher, and you find that a student sucks,  it's the fault of EVERY teacher that student had before you had him..

and those teacher's failures are of the teacher's teacher's failures..

It goes on forever...

UNTIL SOMEONE TODAY...   stops and says OK,  let's go back, let me teach you some basics.. you missed it..


SO FEW teachers are willing to do this.. (****ty pay) I get it..    but come here and whine about students,  you're freaking adults..  do something about it that isn't just you being every bit an entitled Brat as the student you're pointing at..

Looking at you -beast

How can you teacher a student who just doesn't care. The most amazing teacher won't be able to reach that student.

Half of what you're saying is untrue. I'll admit, not all teachers are great, but that can  be said about any profession. HOWEVER, a lot of teachers do reflect on their lesson plans. "hey, this didn't work with my students, what would make it better"


tp, stfu about stuff you don't know about. Stop arguing for arguments sake.

have you asked.. why doesn't that student care...  no one has reached him.. why is that...


You're the type of teacher that's the problem with America..  It's never your fault.. always someone elses.


My point is, it's not relevant to discuss whose fault it is....  what can we DO about the situation at hand..


I know enough about teaching, having gone through primary education with teachers JUST LIKE YOU..


-Dispassionate to say the least

(http://a.deviantart.net/avatars/k/y/kyleoniplz.gif?1)


Beast.. I respect you as a great member of our KB community.. but your attitude towards students, i find consistent with the unaccountability that I've experienced from nearly ALL my compulsory education teachers with the exception of very few professors in cledge
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 23 September 2014, 12:06:44
(****ty pay) I get it.. 

Uh-huh (http://www.suntimes.com/data/14314316-666/database-search-for-illinois-teacher-and-administrator-salaries.html?appSession=862473800736949).

When these folks retire, their pensions will be 70% of their salaries.

Depends on the area, cost of living and a few other factors.

From that list, quite a few of the higher wages have masters. Also have to factor in that everyone on that list (from what I saw) is teaching in Chicago, which I can't image is cheap to live in.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 September 2014, 12:07:41
tp, stfu about stuff you don't know about. Stop arguing for arguments sake.

Take everything tp says with a pound of salt. He's basically a moron with a large vocabulary and narcissistic tendencies...

Only a moron would think himself wise..   I've made no such serious claim ever (only in jest)..  I've always only been a learner.. and that I shall remain.


The hypocrisy and unaccountability that plagues all of mankind is what this thread is about..


and all youS people are Full of it.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 23 September 2014, 12:09:20
I've done a bit of teaching, mainly specialized skills in BSA, a bit of university seminars, and some other venues. It does seem like as time goes on students expect more and more that the answer or paradigm will be simply given to them, without any effort on their part. It's particularly potent with those born after 1989-90 (sorry if that offends anyone). Many times I've asked a student what they think about a concept, and they reply "I don't know just tell me the answer".  It's worrisome to say the least.

No need to call each other names, maybe it's better if we have a calm, honest discussion about this?

Teachers exist before the birth of the students..


So, if you're a teacher, and you find that a student sucks,  it's the fault of EVERY teacher that student had before you had him..

and those teacher's failures are of the teacher's teacher's failures..

It goes on forever...

UNTIL SOMEONE TODAY...   stops and says OK,  let's go back, let me teach you some basics.. you missed it..


SO FEW teachers are willing to do this.. (****ty pay) I get it..    but come here and whine about students,  you're freaking adults..  do something about it that isn't just you being every bit an entitled Brat as the student you're pointing at..

Looking at you -beast

How can you teacher a student who just doesn't care. The most amazing teacher won't be able to reach that student.

Half of what you're saying is untrue. I'll admit, not all teachers are great, but that can  be said about any profession. HOWEVER, a lot of teachers do reflect on their lesson plans. "hey, this didn't work with my students, what would make it better"


tp, stfu about stuff you don't know about. Stop arguing for arguments sake.

have you asked.. why doesn't that student care...  no one has reached him.. why is that...


You're the type of teacher that's the problem with America..  It's never your fault.. always someone elses.


My point is, it's not relevant to discuss whose fault it is....  what can we DO about the situation at hand..


I know enough about teaching, having gone through primary education with teachers JUST LIKE YOU..


-Dispassionate to say the least

Show Image
(http://a.deviantart.net/avatars/k/y/kyleoniplz.gif?1)



Beast.. I respect you as a great member of our KB community.. but your attitude towards students, i find consistent with the unaccountability that I've experienced from nearly ALL my compulsory education teachers with the exception of very few professors.

Grasp for straw more, I'm done. I feel dumb for indulging you in the first place.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 23 September 2014, 12:10:54
You're the type of teacher that's the problem with America..

Holy crap, can we cut this **** out?  This is just such a terrible conclusion to draw from a single forum post.  You don't even know his teaching style.  All you know is that he doesn't like reading the instructions to the students and would rather have them read for themselves (since they can do that).  And you think that that is the biggest problem with our education system.

I know that you like to argue in sweeping generalizations, and I hope you know the problem with that.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 September 2014, 12:13:26
I've done a bit of teaching, mainly specialized skills in BSA, a bit of university seminars, and some other venues. It does seem like as time goes on students expect more and more that the answer or paradigm will be simply given to them, without any effort on their part. It's particularly potent with those born after 1989-90 (sorry if that offends anyone). Many times I've asked a student what they think about a concept, and they reply "I don't know just tell me the answer".  It's worrisome to say the least.

No need to call each other names, maybe it's better if we have a calm, honest discussion about this?

Teachers exist before the birth of the students..


So, if you're a teacher, and you find that a student sucks,  it's the fault of EVERY teacher that student had before you had him..

and those teacher's failures are of the teacher's teacher's failures..

It goes on forever...

UNTIL SOMEONE TODAY...   stops and says OK,  let's go back, let me teach you some basics.. you missed it..


SO FEW teachers are willing to do this.. (****ty pay) I get it..    but come here and whine about students,  you're freaking adults..  do something about it that isn't just you being every bit an entitled Brat as the student you're pointing at..

Looking at you -beast

How can you teacher a student who just doesn't care. The most amazing teacher won't be able to reach that student.

Half of what you're saying is untrue. I'll admit, not all teachers are great, but that can  be said about any profession. HOWEVER, a lot of teachers do reflect on their lesson plans. "hey, this didn't work with my students, what would make it better"


tp, stfu about stuff you don't know about. Stop arguing for arguments sake.

have you asked.. why doesn't that student care...  no one has reached him.. why is that...


You're the type of teacher that's the problem with America..  It's never your fault.. always someone elses.


My point is, it's not relevant to discuss whose fault it is....  what can we DO about the situation at hand..


I know enough about teaching, having gone through primary education with teachers JUST LIKE YOU..


-Dispassionate to say the least

Show Image
(http://a.deviantart.net/avatars/k/y/kyleoniplz.gif?1)



Beast.. I respect you as a great member of our KB community.. but your attitude towards students, i find consistent with the unaccountability that I've experienced from nearly ALL my compulsory education teachers with the exception of very few professors.

Grasp for straw more, I'm done. I feel dumb for indulging you in the first place.

what you should /feels  is how to ignore blaming everything else, and spend the energy instead on what you can actually affect.

Beast.. I'm not trying to be uber-negative , I realize my wordage has come across that way, but I firmly believe the responsibility ping-pong game is by far the least productive..

and You've directly blamed the student.

(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/pretty-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862516)
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: Grim Fandango on Tue, 23 September 2014, 12:13:47
Most of the time I enioy posting on this forum.  Some of the time I feel like someone should burn it to the ground.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 September 2014, 12:15:21
You're the type of teacher that's the problem with America..

Holy crap, can we cut this **** out?  This is just such a terrible conclusion to draw from a single forum post.  You don't even know his teaching style.  All you know is that he doesn't like reading the instructions to the students and would rather have them read for themselves (since they can do that).  And you think that that is the biggest problem with our education system.

I know that you like to argue in sweeping generalizations, and I hope you know the problem with that.

Ur right hoff..  I 'd like to apologize to the Beast for my choice of words and tone with the exception of content and message ..

Srry -Beast (http://www.clubtuzki.com/emoticons/tuzki_007.gif)
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 23 September 2014, 12:36:35
and You've directly blamed the student.

Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/pretty-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862516)


The student has to have some responsibility in the learning process.


Why the **** am I even replying. It's like talking to a brick wall. But I guess it's better than someone thinking tp4 opinions are right, when they are just wrong and/or misinformed for the sake of inciting an emotional response from me/others to get them to reply to tp4 sad game of "please look at me" type posts.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: Signature on Tue, 23 September 2014, 12:39:07
and You've directly blamed the student.

Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/pretty-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862516)


The student has to have some responsibility in the learning process.


Why the **** am I even replying. It's like talking to a brick wall. But I guess it's better than someone thinking tp4 opinions are right, when they are just wrong and/or misinformed for the sake of inciting an emotional response from me/others to get them to reply to tp4 sad game of "please look at me" type posts.
Can we all just be friends? :(
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 September 2014, 12:43:05
and You've directly blamed the student.

Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/pretty-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862516)


The student has to have some responsibility in the learning process.


Why the **** am I even replying. It's like talking to a brick wall. But I guess it's better than someone thinking tp4 opinions are right, when they are just wrong and/or misinformed for the sake of inciting an emotional response from me/others to get them to reply to tp4 sad game of "please look at me" type posts.


hmm.. I don't expressly engineer ALL posts ^^^ that way..   The ones I've made in "this" thread are NOT part of my light-content series posts.

The posts I've made in this thread are genuine views I have about the education system...



You can NOT blame the students..  blame is not productive.. it also only serves to make YOU (the beast, the teachers) feel better for either not having tried, or averse to trying (to help the students)...

Just push the cattle through...  a few good ones make it,  mission accomplished.. 





Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 23 September 2014, 12:43:10
/me hugs geekhack
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 23 September 2014, 12:45:44
/me hugs geekhack

/me reciprocates
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 23 September 2014, 12:47:52
Hmn... I almost say point proven about entitlement and people being thin skinned since this thread has been reported about 2 dozen times now. The report thread feature is not to be used for things you simply disagree with please.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: IPT on Tue, 23 September 2014, 12:48:13
tp, stfu about stuff you don't know about. Stop arguing for arguments sake.

Take everything tp says with a pound of salt. He's basically a moron with a large vocabulary and narcissistic tendencies...

Only a moron would think himself wise..   I've made no such serious claim ever (only in jest)..  I've always only been a learner.. and that I shall remain.


The hypocrisy and unaccountability that plagues all of mankind is what this thread is about..


and all youS people are Full of it.
(https://33.media.tumblr.com/7dc372758652593bda23bd67ec3d28fb/tumblr_nbmu6zszZW1qg0tmzo1_500.png)
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: demik on Tue, 23 September 2014, 12:48:26
and You've directly blamed the student.

Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/pretty-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862516)


The student has to have some responsibility in the learning process.


Why the **** am I even replying. It's like talking to a brick wall. But I guess it's better than someone thinking tp4 opinions are right, when they are just wrong and/or misinformed for the sake of inciting an emotional response from me/others to get them to reply to tp4 sad game of "please look at me" type posts.

Im rather disappointed you fell for his bait. Youve been here long enough to notice his posting pattern. Block and move on like the rest.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 23 September 2014, 12:50:01
Hmn... I almost say point proven about entitlement and people being thin skinned since this thread has been reported about 2 dozen times now. The report thread feature is not to be used for things you simply disagree with please.

(http://onthefiredotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/greatsuccess.gif?w=536)
Title: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: heedpantsnow on Tue, 23 September 2014, 12:50:28
It's interesting, so many people these days see themselves simply as a product of their environment. Through this they are able to dodge responsibility for just about anything they wish and put that on parents, upbringing, government, and yes teachers. Bigotry, terrorism, laziness, etc can all be blame-shifted to someone/thing else. It's so sad. When someone has that mindset, it's impossible for them to see it any other way. Because of this I really don't see the point in keeping this thread going. I won't be posting in it anymore. Over and out bros.

Edit: I should also reiterate how disappointed the name-calling is. I really love GH, but this kind of thing just makes me so sad.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 23 September 2014, 12:51:46
Can we have a Thread of Peace now?
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: paicrai on Tue, 23 September 2014, 13:02:21

/me hugs geekhack
/me enjoys the warm embrace
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 September 2014, 13:07:24

/me hugs geekhack
/me enjoys the warm embrace


it's all fun n games till someone discovers wet-spots..


/ damn

i don't have a good hugs emoticon
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: baldgye on Tue, 23 September 2014, 13:07:32
I think that this has mostly been the way, as someone who worked in customer service I got this alot, I think we are just open to it alot more because we are all connected and talking all the time. MGS2 IS REAL
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 23 September 2014, 13:08:25

/me hugs geekhack
/me enjoys the warm embrace


it's all fun n games till someone discovers wet-spots..

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 September 2014, 13:09:48
I think that this has mostly been the way, as someone who worked in customer service I got this alot, I think we are just open to it alot more because we are all connected and talking all the time. MGS2 IS REAL

Metal gear solid 2 ?
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 September 2014, 13:12:10

/me hugs geekhack
/me enjoys the warm embrace


it's all fun n games till someone discovers wet-spots..

(Attachment Link)

[attachimg=1]

Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: saturnotaku on Tue, 23 September 2014, 15:17:39
Depends on the area, cost of living and a few other factors.

From that list, quite a few of the higher wages have masters. Also have to factor in that everyone on that list (from what I saw) is teaching in Chicago, which I can't image is cheap to live in.

It's more affordable than New York, Boston, anywhere in California, and many other big cities. Residency is not a requirement, so you can teach in the city while living in the cheaper suburbs. Speaking strictly about Illinois, many school districts, at least in the Chicago area anyway, offer some form of compensation for pursuing master's degrees, and tenure is granted after five years.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 23 September 2014, 15:21:20
Depends on the area, cost of living and a few other factors.

From that list, quite a few of the higher wages have masters. Also have to factor in that everyone on that list (from what I saw) is teaching in Chicago, which I can't image is cheap to live in.

It's more affordable than New York, Boston, anywhere in California, and many other big cities. Residency is not a requirement, so you can teach in the city while living in the cheaper suburbs. Speaking strictly about Illinois, many school districts, at least in the Chicago area anyway, offer some form of compensation for pursuing master's degrees, and tenure is granted after five years.

*Note to self, should have been a school teacher.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 23 September 2014, 15:26:22
/me hugs geekhack

/me grinds
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: C5Allroad on Tue, 23 September 2014, 15:28:23
(http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/pile_of_****.gif)
This thread....


Anyone mind telling what the hell happened? Did someone offend someone?
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: Signature on Tue, 23 September 2014, 15:40:28
Show Image
(http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/pile_of_****.gif)

This thread....


Anyone mind telling what the hell happened? Did someone offend someone?
Here we go again...
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 23 September 2014, 15:42:19
Show Image
(http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/pile_of_****.gif)

This thread....


Anyone mind telling what the hell happened? Did someone offend someone?

Something about a selfie.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 September 2014, 15:44:36
Show Image
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This thread....


Anyone mind telling what the hell happened? Did someone offend someone?
Here we go again...

Beast was ragin bout how his students suck and whine alot.. (kids righ?)

Then I said, hey, kids be kids, you're not a good teacher if you don't accept that and try to help them..

Beast rages m0re...  says, kids are responsible for part of their education..

Then I said, it's not useful to push responsibility around, we should instead discuss possible actions to help these kids..


the Beast Rages m0re,  yells at me, and tells me about how I don't understand education..



and Hoff hugs it out..  because apparently that's the solution to everything..


Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: C5Allroad on Tue, 23 September 2014, 16:20:48
Thanks Tp. :)
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 23 September 2014, 16:23:44
Thanks Tp. :)

>2014
>believing tp4's deluded version of reality

ishygddt
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: C5Allroad on Tue, 23 September 2014, 16:26:02
Thanks Tp. :)

>2014
>believing tp4's deluded version of reality

ishygddt
Well... I don't want to read a whole argument...
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 September 2014, 16:26:32
Thanks Tp. :)

>2014
>believing tp4's deluded version of reality

ishygddt

like I said.. you need Troll +30 to play.. go practice .. (http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/relax1-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862517)
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 23 September 2014, 16:41:36
Let's take a look into the deluded mind of the child known as tp4tissue:

Watch as he says he has never claimed to be wise, and uses the word "hypocrisy".
Only a moron would think himself wise..   I've made no such serious claim ever (only in jest)..  I've always only been a learner.. and that I shall remain.

The hypocrisy and unaccountability that plagues all of mankind is what this thread is about..

Now, let's try to learn what hypocrisy means to him. It obviously doesn't mean to say one thing and then say another thing opposite to that, based purely on these quotes:
Again, I hope I am getting through to you...  I genuinely try to help people..  but I can see you are rigid..
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=63081.msg1478641#msg1478641

Thread locked, so our back and forth is done there. But your goal is to whine about me whining about whiners, and you call me a hypocrite? And you understand the meaning of the word, correct?

No no.. you misunderstand ,  I -responded- to you whining about whiners to alert you as to your hypocritical nature..

I am not at all distraught or uneased by the fact that you ARE a hypocrite and that you whine..

Whine away as much as you like..   remember TP4 is here to let you see the error of your ways..

You're welcome..

(Extra line breaks and ridiculous emoticons removed courtesy of me)

Thanks for watching. Join us next time on "The Deluded Reality of tp4tissue".
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 September 2014, 16:48:34
LOL.. you followed it all the way in here just to get the Last-Word on a thread you lost to me in?

Esoo, I don't know what you're trying to prove..


You want to say , hey , recognize, "Esoo is da best troll"..

Why...   and what would such recognition bring..


Also.. such a title can not come from all the whining you do..  You have be able to instigate..

This you've not yet mastered..


All of your posts come off as whining, where you do not make a point..  or take a stance.

Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 23 September 2014, 16:51:46
Oh, look. Episode two of the hit show is already under way.

I'm the one looking for recognition? I'm the one who never makes a point or takes a stance?
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: noisyturtle on Tue, 23 September 2014, 16:54:11
Yes. Younger people are generally softer, more easily offended, and generally ****fied these days. I really started to notice it in the mid 2000's and it's become more and more prevalent. Pretty sure it's due to overprotective parenting, but something has definitely made today's youth much softer.

I think it's just the way it goes as next generations have less and less impactful/global issues affecting them as their worlds become smaller through technology, so every following generation has it easier and therefore pettier problems than the generation before them so they seem like little whiny *****es in comparison.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 September 2014, 17:26:24
Yes. Younger people are generally softer, more easily offended, and generally ****fied these days. I really started to notice it in the mid 2000's and it's become more and more prevalent. Pretty sure it's due to overprotective parenting, but something has definitely made today's youth much softer.

I think it's just the way it goes as next generations have less and less impactful/global issues affecting them as their worlds become smaller through technology, so every following generation has it easier and therefore pettier problems than the generation before them so they seem like little whiny *****es in comparison.

exactly.. esoo is probably offended for something I didn't even intend ..  I know he's mad at me about something.. i just can't remember what..
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 23 September 2014, 17:31:20
Show Image
(http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/pile_of_****.gif)

This thread....


Anyone mind telling what the hell happened? Did someone offend someone?
Here we go again...

Beast was ragin bout how his students suck and whine alot.. (kids righ?)

Then I said, hey, kids be kids, you're not a good teacher if you don't accept that and try to help them..

Beast rages m0re...  says, kids are responsible for part of their education..

Then I said, it's not useful to push responsibility around, we should instead discuss possible actions to help these kids..


the Beast Rages m0re,  yells at me, and tells me about how I don't understand education..



and Hoff hugs it out..  because apparently that's the solution to everything..




They don't "suck". Some just don't apply themselves, think for themselves and expect help at every turn. If teachers taught with your philosophy, we'd end up with dependent, non applying students who expect answers at every turn without even trying.

I never said I don't help them. I simply ask that they think for themselves first before seeking outside (my or my cooperating teacher) help.

Students are responsible for there education, a teacher can only motivate a student so much.

You really don't understand education, in my opinion. You have no professional bases or training in the field. You're using off hand comments and opinions that aren't based in fact.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: C5Allroad on Tue, 23 September 2014, 17:45:25


Let's take a look into the deluded mind of the child known as tp4tissue:

Watch as he says he has never claimed to be wise, and uses the word "hypocrisy".
Only a moron would think himself wise..   I've made no such serious claim ever (only in jest)..  I've always only been a learner.. and that I shall remain.

The hypocrisy and unaccountability that plagues all of mankind is what this thread is about..

Now, let's try to learn what hypocrisy means to him. It obviously doesn't mean to say one thing and then say another thing opposite to that, based purely on these quotes:
Again, I hope I am getting through to you...  I genuinely try to help people..  but I can see you are rigid..
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=63081.msg1478641#msg1478641

Thread locked, so our back and forth is done there. But your goal is to whine about me whining about whiners, and you call me a hypocrite? And you understand the meaning of the word, correct?

No no.. you misunderstand ,  I -responded- to you whining about whiners to alert you as to your hypocritical nature..

I am not at all distraught or uneased by the fact that you ARE a hypocrite and that you whine..

Whine away as much as you like..   remember TP4 is here to let you see the error of your ways..

You're welcome..

(Extra line breaks and ridiculous emoticons removed courtesy of me)

Thanks for watching. Join us next time on "The Deluded Reality of tp4tissue".

Hey, I like the emoticons... (http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_053_XD.gif)
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: strict on Tue, 23 September 2014, 17:51:49
...
You have no professional bases or training in the field. You're using off hand comments and opinions that aren't based in fact.

That is a very apt summation tp4 in general. He's like Tigger from Winnie the Pooh ... non-stop, bouncing-off-the-walls non-sense and he couldn't be happier with himself about it.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: demik on Tue, 23 September 2014, 18:21:25
...
You have no professional bases or training in the field. You're using off hand comments and opinions that aren't based in fact.

That is a very apt summation tp4 in general. He's like Tigger from Winnie the Pooh ... non-stop, bouncing-off-the-walls non-sense and he couldn't be happier with himself about it.

How dare you insult tigger!
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 September 2014, 19:40:27
...
You have no professional bases or training in the field. You're using off hand comments and opinions that aren't based in fact.

That is a very apt summation tp4 in general. He's like Tigger from Winnie the Pooh ... non-stop, bouncing-off-the-walls non-sense and he couldn't be happier with himself about it.

How dare you insult tigger!

I must admit.. I am happy 99% of the time..   the other 1% I'm just  too tired... from drinking.. usually.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 September 2014, 19:49:04
Show Image
(http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/pile_of_****.gif)

This thread....


Anyone mind telling what the hell happened? Did someone offend someone?
Here we go again...

Beast was ragin bout how his students suck and whine alot.. (kids righ?)

Then I said, hey, kids be kids, you're not a good teacher if you don't accept that and try to help them..

Beast rages m0re...  says, kids are responsible for part of their education..

Then I said, it's not useful to push responsibility around, we should instead discuss possible actions to help these kids..


the Beast Rages m0re,  yells at me, and tells me about how I don't understand education..



and Hoff hugs it out..  because apparently that's the solution to everything..




They don't "suck". Some just don't apply themselves, think for themselves and expect help at every turn. If teachers taught with your philosophy, we'd end up with dependent, non applying students who expect answers at every turn without even trying.

I never said I don't help them. I simply ask that they think for themselves first before seeking outside (my or my cooperating teacher) help.

Students are responsible for there education, a teacher can only motivate a student so much.

You really don't understand education, in my opinion. You have no professional bases or training in the field. You're using off hand comments and opinions that aren't based in fact.

This thread is you complaining about the kids.. correct?

and I said.. hey teach, it's not productive to blame the kids, they are what they are..

and you said they're responsible for their own education..   

then I said,  that is true, but emphasis should be to MAKE THEM know that they're responsible and to do that, you should tell them the Exact reason why they need to study hard..   so they can purchase sex and fund procreation in the future. 


And you raged.. because I disagree with the fact that you're raging against the kids is at all a useful discussion..


Admittedly, I chose some bad wording, and put you on the offensive,  THIS is my fault, and I apologized for that..


But the contention is firm...  you're whining about whiny kids,    this has been the literal purpose of the thread... 

Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: noisyturtle on Tue, 23 September 2014, 20:03:09
Hello, I am currently 15 years old and I want to become a walrus. I know there’s a million people out there just like me, but I promise you I’m different. On December 14th, I’m moving to Antartica; home of the greatest walruses. I’ve already cut off my arms, and now slide on my stomach everywhere I go as training. I may not be a walrus yet, but I promise you if you give me a chance and the support I need, I will become the greatest walrus.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: Novus on Tue, 23 September 2014, 21:01:38
Don't forget noppoo, keycool and blackwidow.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: bueller on Tue, 23 September 2014, 21:54:20
Yep. Take a look at every GMK GB ever.

"Oh I won't buy it unless I get *insert random cap that no one ever uses*, it's a dealbreaker"
"I'm out because it has Windows 8 logos"

GTFO.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: tbc on Tue, 23 September 2014, 22:22:44


Aww couldn't you have picked 91 as your cut off year?  :(

:P

we're actually the same age?
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: iri on Wed, 24 September 2014, 01:09:39
every **** loves cum.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: Signature on Wed, 24 September 2014, 01:25:22
Hello, I am currently 15 years old and I want to become a walrus. I know there’s a million people out there just like me, but I promise you I’m different. On December 14th, I’m moving to Antartica; home of the greatest walruses. I’ve already cut off my arms, and now slide on my stomach everywhere I go as training. I may not be a walrus yet, but I promise you if you give me a chance and the support I need, I will become the greatest walrus.
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Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 24 September 2014, 02:10:24
every **** loves cum.

I now a lot of women who do and some men folk as well  8) .
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: iri on Wed, 24 September 2014, 02:52:48
I was talking about genitals
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: jacobolus on Wed, 24 September 2014, 04:13:45
For what it’s worth, I think tp4tissue is full of **** about 95% of the time, but in this thread he’s got it right (at least on general principle; I’m sure The_Beast is a great teacher in person, however easy it is to take his online rants out of context).

They don't "suck". Some just don't apply themselves, think for themselves and expect help at every turn. If teachers taught with your philosophy, we'd end up with dependent, non applying students who expect answers at every turn without even trying.
I think you’re very much misunderstanding what tp4tissue is saying here. That is, he isn’t saying you should do the students’ work for them, or read every little instruction they could read themselves, or whatever. What he’s saying (and this is absolutely correct) is that if the students aren’t doing what they’re supposed to, then blaming them for it (e.g. calling them whiny) is totally counterproductive, and a breakdown of empathy.

I know a lot of smart kids who don’t apply themselves. You know why? Because for the most part school is a big pile of bull**** rules that are being imposed from outside, and it’s not clear to most students why they should care, other than just as a way to appease society / get people off their case.

The only way to fix this is to get kids excited about what they’re learning, and the best way to do that is to figure out what they’re interested in and get them working on *that*, or else show them why the subjects they’re supposed to be studying are actually fascinating and wonderful.

If a student really applies him- or herself (that is, is passionate about it, focuses, has some support, and does the damn work), they are plenty capable of covering everything taught in a regular school in 1/10 the time the school spends on it (or probably less even). And yes, that goes for all the students, even the “dumb” ones. Once you get them on a healthy diet, well rested, with enough exercise, not stressed out of their minds, and working on something they think is important and relevant, nearly all people are curious and clever and amazing learners. Schools are unbelievably inefficient compared to maximum human potential. Unfortunately, most students aren’t taught how to do the work, or more importantly why to care. As a result they drift along. Some kids, the so-called “gifted kids” (who have more preparation in intellectual thought) are often bored out of their skulls trying to avoid **** they are being forced to do that seems totally trivial and pointless. Some of the other kids have terrible anxiety, their bodies constantly flooded with stress hormones, because they have been convinced that they “suck” at math, or reading, or whatever, and their brains are simply not in an emotional state to focus on doing work. The “good” kids are mostly ones who have learned that the best way to fit in and be praised by their teachers and parents is to sit down, do whatever is asked, and conform.

Students *are* ultimately responsible for their own educations, in the sense that no one else in the world, even their parents, ultimately can direct their lives or mental energy. However, many many students have not been taught properly how to follow their own curiosity, make their own discoveries, put the puzzle pieces together, or sit and focus on a problem until it’s completed. This is a real tragedy, because these students then get judged as incapable (lazy, entitled, incompetent, whatever) when their teachers and environment is just as much to blame.

We live in a shockingly individualistic society, and we’re really bad at understanding systemic social effects, or empathizing with each other. All the best teachers I had went way above and beyond the call of duty to try to understand what their students were thinking and feeling, and meet them on their own terms.

Don’t think I blame schools or teachers here though. Teaching 30 underprepared, poorly fed, sleep deprived, stressed out, hormone-fuelled kids, with plenty of personal problems at home and at school, who don’t give a **** about the subject under discussion, with insufficient staff, school materials, and physical infrastructure is a devilishly difficult problem. Teachers aren’t given sufficient pay, respect, or personal development time. Schools have mandates up the wazoo from state and federal curricula, and careerist administrators pile all kinds of bull**** on teachers. Even in the best run schools with the best teachers and the best administrators, lots of money and intellectual freedom, teaching is hard. In many American schools it’s more of a nightmare.

[FWIW, my mother was a career elementary school teacher, many of my friends are teachers, I have enormous respect for teachers and the public education system, and I have spent lots of time teaching people 1-on-1 and in small groups about various subjects, but I have never been a full-time classroom teacher myself.]

About lectures, etc. in a college setting:

Or about what high school is about and what it should be:
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: paicrai on Wed, 24 September 2014, 04:16:25
every **** loves cum.

I was talking about genitals

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Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: Novus on Wed, 24 September 2014, 05:25:40
You know I really don't get this community sometimes.
You guys can tolerate people who don't bother to use the search button, make new threads excessively and ask the same old questions in the keyboards section.
You guys can tolerate people who join up and don't bother to research.
You guys can tolerate 5 simultaneous noppoo threads, a stupidly long back and forth razer thread and a half dozen HHKB threads per 2-3 pages.
You guys can indulge all this crap but yet you can't seem to tolerate fragility venting a little bit.

Now as for this thread.
You guys say you want to foster a community and encourage learning but you make a thread like this openly mocking a member.
You mute fragility and then you let this charade go on.
Threads like these encourage dangerous mob mentalities and subject people like fragility to unwarranted verbal abuse and harassment.
You mods and admins should have locked this as soon as you saw this thread instead of encouraging this dangerous and disparaging precedence (well I doubt this is the first)
and don't you dare say that nobody has openly written anything truly disparaging about fragility in this thread or that this thread is just "good fun" - you're not that dense and you know exactly the sort of vindictive crap you're participating in.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 24 September 2014, 05:47:37
Oh ****...

He's right.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: paicrai on Wed, 24 September 2014, 05:57:49
You know I really don't get this community sometimes.
You guys can tolerate people who don't bother to use the search button, make new threads excessively and ask the same old questions in the keyboards section.
You guys can tolerate people who join up and don't bother to research.
You guys can tolerate 5 simultaneous noppoo threads, a stupidly long back and forth razer thread and a half dozen HHKB threads per 2-3 pages.
You guys can indulge all this crap but yet you can't seem to tolerate fragility venting a little bit.

Now as for this thread.
You guys say you want to foster a community and encourage learning but you make a thread like this openly mocking a member.
You mute fragility and then you let this charade go on.
Threads like these encourage dangerous mob mentalities and subject people like fragility to unwarranted verbal abuse and harassment.
You mods and admins should have locked this as soon as you saw this thread instead of encouraging this dangerous and disparaging precedence (well I doubt this is the first)
and don't you dare say that nobody has openly written anything truly disparaging about fragility in this thread or that this thread is just "good fun" - you're not that dense and you know exactly the sort of vindictive crap you're participating in.
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Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: osi on Wed, 24 September 2014, 06:10:47
yes - people are too whiny nowadays.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 24 September 2014, 06:27:35
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I understand the relevance of your posts less and less every day. Why not just post ink blots and let folks just guess what you're trying to say?
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: Signature on Wed, 24 September 2014, 07:46:11
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I understand the relevance of your posts less and less every day. Why not just post ink blots and let folks just guess what you're trying to say?

Orly

Hello, I am currently 15 years old and I want to become a walrus. I know there’s a million people out there just like me, but I promise you I’m different. On December 14th, I’m moving to Antartica; home of the greatest walruses. I’ve already cut off my arms, and now slide on my stomach everywhere I go as training. I may not be a walrus yet, but I promise you if you give me a chance and the support I need, I will become the greatest walrus.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 24 September 2014, 07:53:38
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I understand the relevance of your posts less and less every day. Why not just post ink blots and let folks just guess what you're trying to say?

Orly

Hello, I am currently 15 years old and I want to become a walrus. I know there’s a million people out there just like me, but I promise you I’m different. On December 14th, I’m moving to Antartica; home of the greatest walruses. I’ve already cut off my arms, and now slide on my stomach everywhere I go as training. I may not be a walrus yet, but I promise you if you give me a chance and the support I need, I will become the greatest walrus.
well I still not have seen a revelent paicrai post .
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: paicrai on Wed, 24 September 2014, 07:59:01
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I understand the relevance of your posts less and less every day. Why not just post ink blots and let folks just guess what you're trying to say?

Orly

Hello, I am currently 15 years old and I want to become a walrus. I know there’s a million people out there just like me, but I promise you I’m different. On December 14th, I’m moving to Antartica; home of the greatest walruses. I’ve already cut off my arms, and now slide on my stomach everywhere I go as training. I may not be a walrus yet, but I promise you if you give me a chance and the support I need, I will become the greatest walrus.
well I still not have seen a revelent paicrai post .
and there we have it, the question has been answered. the answer is yes.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 24 September 2014, 08:14:30
Aww couldn't you have picked 91 as your cut off year?  :(

:P

we're actually the same age?

If you were born in 91, then yes.  ;)
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 24 September 2014, 09:17:31
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I understand the relevance of your posts less and less every day. Why not just post ink blots and let folks just guess what you're trying to say?

This would require Double decoding..  Paicrai has to first understand and connect with said inkblot..

THEN, WE also have to understand the inkblot..

The potential for miscommunication is too great..
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: iri on Wed, 24 September 2014, 09:33:08
Aww couldn't you have picked 91 as your cut off year?  :(

:P

we're actually the same age?

If you were born in 91, then yes.  ;)
wow, so big and so little.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: yasuo on Wed, 24 September 2014, 09:37:03
because of different intake with the old people.cmiiw
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: Altis on Wed, 24 September 2014, 11:21:14
I found this to be the most confusing thread to follow. I really have no idea what's going on anymore.

But to OP, I do think people are not only too whiny, but too sensitive to everything and used to getting their own way when they do whine. SJWs can often be the worst offenders.

That's why I hang out places like this, and indulge in some pleasant hobbies.

The best thing that you can be in life is happy. Life's too short to focus too much on negativity.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: demik on Wed, 24 September 2014, 17:31:06
I found this to be the most confusing thread to follow. I really have no idea what's going on anymore.

But to OP, I do think people are not only too whiny, but too sensitive to everything and used to getting their own way when they do whine. SJWs can often be the worst offenders.

That's why I hang out places like this, and indulge in some pleasant hobbies.

The best thing that you can be in life is happy. Life's too short to focus too much on negativity.

SJW are by far the most annoying people.

Luckily they live on tumblr only.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 24 September 2014, 18:24:18
I found this to be the most confusing thread to follow. I really have no idea what's going on anymore.

But to OP, I do think people are not only too whiny, but too sensitive to everything and used to getting their own way when they do whine. SJWs can often be the worst offenders.

That's why I hang out places like this, and indulge in some pleasant hobbies.

The best thing that you can be in life is happy. Life's too short to focus too much on negativity.

SJW are by far the most annoying people.

Luckily they live on tumblr only.

What's SJW stand for? Sexy Jewish Widows?
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: strict on Wed, 24 September 2014, 18:33:01
What's SJW stand for? Sexy Jewish Widows?

Social justice warriors
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: paicrai on Wed, 24 September 2014, 18:46:14
well then just dont work then gh
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: paicrai on Wed, 24 September 2014, 18:52:13
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shiny jamie mcdonald will fix this
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: jacobolus on Wed, 24 September 2014, 18:54:57
Quote from: noisyturtle link=topic=63080.msg1480586#msg1480586
What's SJW stand for? Sexy Jewish Widows?
God I can’t stand those sexy jewish widows, always whining about everything in such a sexy way.

Also can’t stand entitled 15-25 year-old white men who have no problem spewing all kinds of bull**** but get real mad when anyone calls them out.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: paicrai on Wed, 24 September 2014, 18:56:41
Quote from: noisyturtle link=topic=63080.msg1480586#msg1480586
What's SJW stand for? Sexy Jewish Widows?
Also can’t stand entitled 15-25 year-old white men who have no problem spewing all kinds of bull**** but get real mad when anyone calls them out.
what, 99% of the ****ing internet
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: Fragil1ty on Wed, 24 September 2014, 18:59:36
I was banned for 24 hours, but now I'm back mother****ers.

Representin'
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: paicrai on Wed, 24 September 2014, 19:01:21
I was banned for 24 hours, but now I'm back mother****ers.

Representin'
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Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 24 September 2014, 19:01:58
I was banned for 24 hours, but now I'm back mother****ers.

Representin'
Great..

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Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: billnye on Wed, 24 September 2014, 19:02:56
I was banned for 24 hours, but now I'm back mother****ers.

Representin'

Mods whyyyy (http://deskthority.net/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif)(http://deskthority.net/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif)
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: clacktalk on Wed, 24 September 2014, 19:07:28
Quote from: noisyturtle link=topic=63080.msg1480586#msg1480586
What's SJW stand for? Sexy Jewish Widows?
God I can’t stand those sexy jewish widows, always whining about everything in such a sexy way.

Also can’t stand entitled 15-25 year-old white men who have no problem spewing all kinds of bull**** but get real mad when anyone calls them out.

Don't forget the privileged and those that are oblivious to how privileged they are. Either that or people who are aware and are okay with the bull**** since it's the norm and hip as ****. Actually, complacency is way more annoying than blatant *******s.

bottom line is: i p much hate every1 on the internet 5reals
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 24 September 2014, 19:07:52
Just so we're clear, a mute is not a ban.  You were muted for 24 hours.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: Fragil1ty on Wed, 24 September 2014, 19:09:46
Just so we're clear, a mute is not a ban.  You were muted for 24 hours.


A mute is a ban to me, but thanks bro.



Representin'
 
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 24 September 2014, 21:08:16
I was banned for 24 hours, but now I'm back mother****ers.

Representin'

Mods whyyyy
Show Image
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I just noticed J-Roc and the Roc Pile.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 25 September 2014, 00:00:39
I was banned for 24 hours, but now I'm back mother****ers.

Representin'

Mods whyyyy
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I just noticed J-Roc and the Roc Pile.  :thumb:

what are those?
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: noisyturtle on Thu, 25 September 2014, 00:29:47
I was banned for 24 hours, but now I'm back mother****ers.

Representin'

Mods whyyyy
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I just noticed J-Roc and the Roc Pile.  :thumb:

what are those?

From a TV show called Trailer Park Boys. It's on Netflix, and it's ****ing great!
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: jameslr on Thu, 25 September 2014, 08:27:37
Don't forget noppoo, keycool and blackwidow.

and HHKB Type S
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: strict on Thu, 25 September 2014, 09:06:17
From a TV show called Trailer Park Boys. It's on Netflix, and it's ****ing great!

QFT ... the ****in way she goes
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: keyton on Thu, 25 September 2014, 09:33:52
You know I really don't get this community sometimes.
You guys can tolerate people who don't bother to use the search button, make new threads excessively and ask the same old questions in the keyboards section.
You guys can tolerate people who join up and don't bother to research.
You guys can tolerate 5 simultaneous noppoo threads, a stupidly long back and forth razer thread and a half dozen HHKB threads per 2-3 pages.
You guys can indulge all this crap but yet you can't seem to tolerate fragility venting a little bit.

Now as for this thread.
You guys say you want to foster a community and encourage learning but you make a thread like this openly mocking a member.
You mute fragility and then you let this charade go on.
Threads like these encourage dangerous mob mentalities and subject people like fragility to unwarranted verbal abuse and harassment.
You mods and admins should have locked this as soon as you saw this thread instead of encouraging this dangerous and disparaging precedence (well I doubt this is the first)
and don't you dare say that nobody has openly written anything truly disparaging about fragility in this thread or that this thread is just "good fun" - you're not that dense and you know exactly the sort of vindictive crap you're participating in.

Yet you are an ******* here:

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62495.msg1461873#msg1461873
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: paicrai on Thu, 25 September 2014, 13:29:09
You know I really don't get this community sometimes.
You guys can tolerate people who don't bother to use the search button, make new threads excessively and ask the same old questions in the keyboards section.
You guys can tolerate people who join up and don't bother to research.
You guys can tolerate 5 simultaneous noppoo threads, a stupidly long back and forth razer thread and a half dozen HHKB threads per 2-3 pages.
You guys can indulge all this crap but yet you can't seem to tolerate fragility venting a little bit.

Now as for this thread.
You guys say you want to foster a community and encourage learning but you make a thread like this openly mocking a member.
You mute fragility and then you let this charade go on.
Threads like these encourage dangerous mob mentalities and subject people like fragility to unwarranted verbal abuse and harassment.
You mods and admins should have locked this as soon as you saw this thread instead of encouraging this dangerous and disparaging precedence (well I doubt this is the first)
and don't you dare say that nobody has openly written anything truly disparaging about fragility in this thread or that this thread is just "good fun" - you're not that dense and you know exactly the sort of vindictive crap you're participating in.

Yet you are an ******* here:

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62495.msg1461873#msg1461873
rofl youre still mad about a joke
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 25 September 2014, 13:29:59
You know I really don't get this community sometimes.
You guys can tolerate people who don't bother to use the search button, make new threads excessively and ask the same old questions in the keyboards section.
You guys can tolerate people who join up and don't bother to research.
You guys can tolerate 5 simultaneous noppoo threads, a stupidly long back and forth razer thread and a half dozen HHKB threads per 2-3 pages.
You guys can indulge all this crap but yet you can't seem to tolerate fragility venting a little bit.

Now as for this thread.
You guys say you want to foster a community and encourage learning but you make a thread like this openly mocking a member.
You mute fragility and then you let this charade go on.
Threads like these encourage dangerous mob mentalities and subject people like fragility to unwarranted verbal abuse and harassment.
You mods and admins should have locked this as soon as you saw this thread instead of encouraging this dangerous and disparaging precedence (well I doubt this is the first)
and don't you dare say that nobody has openly written anything truly disparaging about fragility in this thread or that this thread is just "good fun" - you're not that dense and you know exactly the sort of vindictive crap you're participating in.

Yet you are an ******* here:

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62495.msg1461873#msg1461873
rofl youre still mad about a joke

You should make a thread..    are people too-mad nowadays..
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: keyton on Thu, 25 September 2014, 20:44:40
You know I really don't get this community sometimes.
You guys can tolerate people who don't bother to use the search button, make new threads excessively and ask the same old questions in the keyboards section.
You guys can tolerate people who join up and don't bother to research.
You guys can tolerate 5 simultaneous noppoo threads, a stupidly long back and forth razer thread and a half dozen HHKB threads per 2-3 pages.
You guys can indulge all this crap but yet you can't seem to tolerate fragility venting a little bit.

Now as for this thread.
You guys say you want to foster a community and encourage learning but you make a thread like this openly mocking a member.
You mute fragility and then you let this charade go on.
Threads like these encourage dangerous mob mentalities and subject people like fragility to unwarranted verbal abuse and harassment.
You mods and admins should have locked this as soon as you saw this thread instead of encouraging this dangerous and disparaging precedence (well I doubt this is the first)
and don't you dare say that nobody has openly written anything truly disparaging about fragility in this thread or that this thread is just "good fun" - you're not that dense and you know exactly the sort of vindictive crap you're participating in.

Yet you are an ******* here:

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62495.msg1461873#msg1461873
rofl youre still mad about a joke

Ha ha.  ****er.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 25 September 2014, 20:58:41
You know I really don't get this community sometimes.
You guys can tolerate people who don't bother to use the search button, make new threads excessively and ask the same old questions in the keyboards section.
You guys can tolerate people who join up and don't bother to research.
You guys can tolerate 5 simultaneous noppoo threads, a stupidly long back and forth razer thread and a half dozen HHKB threads per 2-3 pages.
You guys can indulge all this crap but yet you can't seem to tolerate fragility venting a little bit.

Now as for this thread.
You guys say you want to foster a community and encourage learning but you make a thread like this openly mocking a member.
You mute fragility and then you let this charade go on.
Threads like these encourage dangerous mob mentalities and subject people like fragility to unwarranted verbal abuse and harassment.
You mods and admins should have locked this as soon as you saw this thread instead of encouraging this dangerous and disparaging precedence (well I doubt this is the first)
and don't you dare say that nobody has openly written anything truly disparaging about fragility in this thread or that this thread is just "good fun" - you're not that dense and you know exactly the sort of vindictive crap you're participating in.

Yet you are an ******* here:

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62495.msg1461873#msg1461873
rofl youre still mad about a joke

Ha ha.  ****er.

br0's mad.. chillax..
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: tbc on Thu, 25 September 2014, 21:23:26
Aww couldn't you have picked 91 as your cut off year?  :(

:P

we're actually the same age?

If you were born in 91, then yes.  ;)

nope.  i'm a 90er

respect yo elders son! :p
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: demik on Thu, 25 September 2014, 22:12:41
I found this to be the most confusing thread to follow. I really have no idea what's going on anymore.

But to OP, I do think people are not only too whiny, but too sensitive to everything and used to getting their own way when they do whine. SJWs can often be the worst offenders.

That's why I hang out places like this, and indulge in some pleasant hobbies.

The best thing that you can be in life is happy. Life's too short to focus too much on negativity.

SJW are by far the most annoying people.

Luckily they live on tumblr only.

What's SJW stand for? Sexy Jewish Widows?

exactly those.

can't just do stuff in a normal NOT sexy way??
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: Fragil1ty on Thu, 25 September 2014, 22:21:09
You know I really don't get this community sometimes.
You guys can tolerate people who don't bother to use the search button, make new threads excessively and ask the same old questions in the keyboards section.
You guys can tolerate people who join up and don't bother to research.
You guys can tolerate 5 simultaneous noppoo threads, a stupidly long back and forth razer thread and a half dozen HHKB threads per 2-3 pages.
You guys can indulge all this crap but yet you can't seem to tolerate fragility venting a little bit.

Now as for this thread.
You guys say you want to foster a community and encourage learning but you make a thread like this openly mocking a member.
You mute fragility and then you let this charade go on.
Threads like these encourage dangerous mob mentalities and subject people like fragility to unwarranted verbal abuse and harassment.
You mods and admins should have locked this as soon as you saw this thread instead of encouraging this dangerous and disparaging precedence (well I doubt this is the first)
and don't you dare say that nobody has openly written anything truly disparaging about fragility in this thread or that this thread is just "good fun" - you're not that dense and you know exactly the sort of vindictive crap you're participating in.

I appreciate the sentiment dude, I don't let it get to me in all honesty, It's fine. But thank you for writing what you wrote, I thought it was going to be another bash at me to be honest, but as I read it, I was wow'd a little.

I just assume a lot of the members are children or whatever, but heh, although I may have said some unruly things and was a bit aggressive and what not, the initial thought process behind my rant thread, was exactly that. Obviously with internet forums, your message can be skewed and misinterpreted and that's always a downside to things like this.

A lot of your points I do agree with, the fact that threads are allowed to continue yet I would be subject to being muted and my threads being deleted/locked, but ah well, it is what it is I suppose. Maybe new moderators should be assigned or maybe more stricter rules should be enforced, but hey ho!

Thanks though dude, appreciate it.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: epzy on Thu, 25 September 2014, 22:43:07
I was banned for 24 hours, but now I'm back mother****ers.

Representin'

lel, idiot
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 25 September 2014, 22:55:17
I was banned for 24 hours, but now I'm back mother****ers.

Representin'

lel, idiot

At least he didn't stupidly give in to weeaboos and pay $200+ for a mediocre keyboard that's the HHKB..


See, I could be mean too for no reason...   

Chillax people... 


epzy, see you on the battlefield.. !!

(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/hehe-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862507)
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: epzy on Thu, 25 September 2014, 22:58:47
I was banned for 24 hours, but now I'm back mother****ers.

Representin'

lel, idiot

At least he didn't stupidly give in to weeaboos and pay $200+ for a mediocre keyboard that's the HHKB..


See, I could be mean too for no reason...   

Chillax people... 


epzy, see you on the battlefield.. !!

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yeah you could, but you prefer to be annoying for no reason

pz
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 25 September 2014, 23:02:46
I was banned for 24 hours, but now I'm back mother****ers.

Representin'

lel, idiot

At least he didn't stupidly give in to weeaboos and pay $200+ for a mediocre keyboard that's the HHKB..


See, I could be mean too for no reason...   

Chillax people... 


epzy, see you on the battlefield.. !!

Show Image
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yeah you could, but you prefer to be annoying for no reason

pz

oh.. oh oh.. buh..  no I have no comeback for that...  it's too true.. (http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/073.gif)
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 26 September 2014, 08:00:40
I appreciate the sentiment dude, I don't let it get to me in all honesty, It's fine. But thank you for writing what you wrote, I thought it was going to be another bash at me to be honest, but as I read it, I was wow'd a little.

I just assume a lot of the members are children or whatever, but heh, although I may have said some unruly things and was a bit aggressive and what not, the initial thought process behind my rant thread, was exactly that. Obviously with internet forums, your message can be skewed and misinterpreted and that's always a downside to things like this.

A lot of your points I do agree with, the fact that threads are allowed to continue yet I would be subject to being muted and my threads being deleted/locked, but ah well, it is what it is I suppose. Maybe new moderators should be assigned or maybe more stricter rules should be enforced, but hey ho!

Thanks though dude, appreciate it.


I know it's probably real fun to play the victim here, but let's be honest.  You attacked multiple members personally, you sent threatening PMs to at least three members, and you think someone else is at fault?  Also, FYI, you weren't the only person that was warned for that ordeal, so no one's singling you out.

If you'd like to discuss the matter in a calm and civilized manner, please feel free to PM me and I'd be happy to explain what happened.

Just, maybe, avoid telling me to "go ****ing hang [my]self" this time, mmkay?  ;)
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: absyrd on Fri, 26 September 2014, 09:09:24
Can I get in on this whining about people whining?
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 26 September 2014, 11:34:57
I appreciate the sentiment dude, I don't let it get to me in all honesty, It's fine. But thank you for writing what you wrote, I thought it was going to be another bash at me to be honest, but as I read it, I was wow'd a little.

I just assume a lot of the members are children or whatever, but heh, although I may have said some unruly things and was a bit aggressive and what not, the initial thought process behind my rant thread, was exactly that. Obviously with internet forums, your message can be skewed and misinterpreted and that's always a downside to things like this.

A lot of your points I do agree with, the fact that threads are allowed to continue yet I would be subject to being muted and my threads being deleted/locked, but ah well, it is what it is I suppose. Maybe new moderators should be assigned or maybe more stricter rules should be enforced, but hey ho!

Thanks though dude, appreciate it.


I know it's probably real fun to play the victim here, but let's be honest.  You attacked multiple members personally, you sent threatening PMs to at least three members, and you think someone else is at fault?  Also, FYI, you weren't the only person that was warned for that ordeal, so no one's singling you out.

If you'd like to discuss the matter in a calm and civilized manner, please feel free to PM me and I'd be happy to explain what happened.

Just, maybe, avoid telling me to "go ****ing hang [my]self" this time, mmkay?  ;)


No one's absolutely in the right Hoff...


Fragi responded how he responded partly due to a history of internet gang violence over the course of several threads.


I hesitate to use the word Victim.. because this is the internet, and being a victim equates to about as much as a paper cut AFK..

My point is...  he has legit reasons to be mad-br0.. paper cuts are itchy and sometimes sting a little.


Couple of closer gh circle types ganged up on him...


Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 26 September 2014, 12:13:24
tp4tissue, would you shut your ****ing **** mouth when you don't understand the entire scenario? You don't understand ****, as is evident every time you put your fingers to a keyboard.

Let me tell you a story. Sit down, shut up, listen, and learn.



One day, a guy posts on the internet. (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47669.msg1017391#msg1017391) He says he bid too much money on a keyboard, and was upset that he won and had to pay what he agreed to pay. People disagree with him. (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47669.msg1017393#msg1017393) In a reasonable manner, mind you. The guy gets upset because people don't agree with him. (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47669.msg1017399#msg1017399) He responds in a negative and unnecessary manner, belittling those who say he is wrong in the situation.

At this point in time, when you choose to respond in a certain manner, you should expect the same from the people you're talking to. So that's what happened, as you can see in posts after that.

Fast forward in time. (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=63059.msg1478175#msg1478175) He posts again. Once again, people disagree with his views. I, having a high memory retention, remember his past indiscretions, (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=63059.msg1478179#msg1478179) and post a simple, what could be viewed as humorous, remark. His own memory is not so great. (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=63059.msg1478528#msg1478528) So, someone takes it upon them to remind him. (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=63059.msg1478535#msg1478535) That person did nothing but make a simple explanation to his question. He responds negatively to this person (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=63059.msg1478557#msg1478557), as well as begins to belittle and disregard those who don't agree with him, which you can see throughout that thread. I, being the person I am, don't take kindly to people acting ignorant, or attacking my friends (and I know you'll focus on this little tidbit, so just don't), and decide to try to help the guy (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=63059.msg1478559#msg1478559), in a manner reflecting his own.

The thread is locked, after he attacks my intelligence. (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=63059.msg1478565#msg1478565) He then proceeds to take it a step further, PMing me and others, threatening them, and saying things that shouldn't be said, even jokingly (though we know they weren't jokes). This thread is created as a response to him. But that's irrelevant, as it evolved into something else entirely and created certain discussion that could be seen as thought provoking.

I created a thread in response to his remarks and attacks against me. The guy got muted, I got warned, and the thread got locked for "personal attacking".

End of story, right? No. You decide to jump in and run your mouth when you have zero idea of what's going on. I know you do it solely for the sake of attention-seeking and arguing for no reason, but there are tons of other threads, so **** off.
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: paicrai on Fri, 26 September 2014, 12:46:07
can you just shut up and relax for a sec
Title: Re: Are people too whiny nowadays?
Post by: exitfire401 on Fri, 26 September 2014, 12:51:09
Welp, that's enough of this thread...