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Title: Macbook evaluation
Post by: Fragil1ty on Sat, 27 September 2014, 07:45:19
With the downpour of negativity of my last thread, I was just wondering if any of you that are Mac enthusiasts or just use them or are involved with Mac updates and all that jazz able to give me an idea of what YOU would pay for:

2013" Macbook Pro w/

4 months of warranty left and the traditional specs:


I've dropped it all the way from £750 to £650 /w 15 shipping but I still seem to be getting a lot of users wanting it for around 585 + shipping, so do you think it's still a tad too high or are Macbook pros just as valuable anymore?

If anyone has any insight, I would love your input as I'm in a bit of a tight situation at the moment (financially) and I need to sell this on, so I can manage other things and get them sorted.

Thanks
Title: Re: Macbook evaluation
Post by: paicrai on Sat, 27 September 2014, 08:09:27
blaze it
Title: Re: Macbook evaluation
Post by: Fragil1ty on Sat, 27 September 2014, 08:11:31
blaze it


420?
Title: Re: Macbook evaluation
Post by: paicrai on Sat, 27 September 2014, 08:22:11

blaze it


420?
damn straight
Title: Re: Macbook evaluation
Post by: slip84 on Sat, 27 September 2014, 08:53:03
I recently sold a 2010 Macbook Pro on Craigslist here and got a mess of seriously lowball offers. I finally found someone to buy it at my asking price after about three weeks. I knew what I wanted to get based on the specs (it was high-end at the time and I had replaced the drive and RAM) and just kept at it. I dropped the price a few times from my original buffer price to get down to where someone would finally offer me.

As for your 2013 Macbook Pro (it looks like a 2012 based on the specs you put forward, though), I would guess that 700 - 800$ USD (~500£ according to Google on the high end) would probably be normal for the US. I don't know how to adjust for England, honestly. It does look like you can get a similarly spec'ed model directly from Apple for £759.00 (http://store.apple.com/uk/product/FD101B/A/refurbished-133-inch-macBook-pro-25ghz-dual-core-intel-i5), so I would imagine you could nudge your price north a bit closer to that, but you're not going to get that since you're not Apple; the same model is $929 in the US (http://store.apple.com/us/product/FD101LL/A/refurbished-133-inch-macBook-pro-25ghz-dual-core-intel-i5).

For example, here is a sold listing for a very similar Macbook to yours, but with more memory: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Macbook-Pro-13-inch-2013-Mavericks-plus-extras-/131248448762?pt=Apple_Laptops&hash=item1e8f0464fa
Title: Re: Macbook evaluation
Post by: baldgye on Sat, 27 September 2014, 09:03:46
£585 sounds like a fair price.
Title: Re: Macbook evaluation
Post by: Input Nirvana on Sat, 27 September 2014, 09:20:04
I'm not an expert buyer/seller Mac expert even though I'm a Mac guy, but from what I've seen, Macs seem to rarely get "fire sale" pricing, though it can happen.

As for lowball offers, that happens with everything all the time, so don't consider/pay attention to them. We all know approximately what it's worth.

I know I'm not much help, just trying to reinforce you in your time of need.
Title: Re: Macbook evaluation
Post by: Fragil1ty on Sat, 27 September 2014, 09:26:48
I recently sold a 2010 Macbook Pro on Craigslist here and got a mess of seriously lowball offers. I finally found someone to buy it at my asking price after about three weeks. I knew what I wanted to get based on the specs (it was high-end at the time and I had replaced the drive and RAM) and just kept at it. I dropped the price a few times from my original buffer price to get down to where someone would finally offer me.

As for your 2013 Macbook Pro (it looks like a 2012 based on the specs you put forward, though), I would guess that 700 - 800$ USD (~500£ according to Google on the high end) would probably be normal for the US. I don't know how to adjust for England, honestly. It does look like you can get a similarly spec'ed model directly from Apple for £759.00 (http://store.apple.com/uk/product/FD101B/A/refurbished-133-inch-macBook-pro-25ghz-dual-core-intel-i5 (http://store.apple.com/uk/product/FD101B/A/refurbished-133-inch-macBook-pro-25ghz-dual-core-intel-i5)), so I would imagine you could nudge your price north a bit closer to that, but you're not going to get that since you're not Apple; the same model is $929 in the US (http://store.apple.com/us/product/FD101LL/A/refurbished-133-inch-macBook-pro-25ghz-dual-core-intel-i5 (http://store.apple.com/us/product/FD101LL/A/refurbished-133-inch-macBook-pro-25ghz-dual-core-intel-i5)).

For example, here is a sold listing for a very similar Macbook to yours, but with more memory: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Macbook-Pro-13-inch-2013-Mavericks-plus-extras-/131248448762?pt=Apple_Laptops&hash=item1e8f0464fa (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Macbook-Pro-13-inch-2013-Mavericks-plus-extras-/131248448762?pt=Apple_Laptops&hash=item1e8f0464fa)


Yeah it's the 2012 model but it was bought in 2013 as they hadn't done any refreshes and the only refresh was that of the Retina, so maybe that was the actual refresh?


I'm not an expert buyer/seller Mac expert even though I'm a Mac guy, but from what I've seen, Macs seem to rarely get "fire sale" pricing, though it can happen.

As for lowball offers, that happens with everything all the time, so don't consider/pay attention to them. We all know approximately what it's worth.

I know I'm not much help, just trying to reinforce you in your time of need.
 

Yeah I've begun to notice that.

So all in all, what you think? maybe lower it down to 585/600 GBP? You think that's a more reasonable price?
Title: Re: Macbook evaluation
Post by: Input Nirvana on Sat, 27 September 2014, 09:46:00
I recently sold a 2010 Macbook Pro on Craigslist here and got a mess of seriously lowball offers. I finally found someone to buy it at my asking price after about three weeks. I knew what I wanted to get based on the specs (it was high-end at the time and I had replaced the drive and RAM) and just kept at it. I dropped the price a few times from my original buffer price to get down to where someone would finally offer me.

As for your 2013 Macbook Pro (it looks like a 2012 based on the specs you put forward, though), I would guess that 700 - 800$ USD (~500£ according to Google on the high end) would probably be normal for the US. I don't know how to adjust for England, honestly. It does look like you can get a similarly spec'ed model directly from Apple for £759.00 (http://store.apple.com/uk/product/FD101B/A/refurbished-133-inch-macBook-pro-25ghz-dual-core-intel-i5 (http://store.apple.com/uk/product/FD101B/A/refurbished-133-inch-macBook-pro-25ghz-dual-core-intel-i5)), so I would imagine you could nudge your price north a bit closer to that, but you're not going to get that since you're not Apple; the same model is $929 in the US (http://store.apple.com/us/product/FD101LL/A/refurbished-133-inch-macBook-pro-25ghz-dual-core-intel-i5 (http://store.apple.com/us/product/FD101LL/A/refurbished-133-inch-macBook-pro-25ghz-dual-core-intel-i5)).

For example, here is a sold listing for a very similar Macbook to yours, but with more memory: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Macbook-Pro-13-inch-2013-Mavericks-plus-extras-/131248448762?pt=Apple_Laptops&hash=item1e8f0464fa (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Macbook-Pro-13-inch-2013-Mavericks-plus-extras-/131248448762?pt=Apple_Laptops&hash=item1e8f0464fa)


Yeah it's the 2012 model but it was bought in 2013 as they hadn't done any refreshes and the only refresh was that of the Retina, so maybe that was the actual refresh?


I'm not an expert buyer/seller Mac expert even though I'm a Mac guy, but from what I've seen, Macs seem to rarely get "fire sale" pricing, though it can happen.

As for lowball offers, that happens with everything all the time, so don't consider/pay attention to them. We all know approximately what it's worth.

I know I'm not much help, just trying to reinforce you in your time of need.
 

Yeah I've begun to notice that.

So all in all, what you think? maybe lower it down to 585/600 GBP? You think that's a more reasonable price?

How about trying to contact others selling similar and seeing what they are open to discussing (selling at?). You can be bold because you're not actually buying. It's worth 2 hours of your time to do some poking around..

I'm not really sure what is reasonable where you are. Geographics play a small part in pricing.
Title: Re: Macbook evaluation
Post by: Fragil1ty on Sat, 27 September 2014, 10:02:08
I recently sold a 2010 Macbook Pro on Craigslist here and got a mess of seriously lowball offers. I finally found someone to buy it at my asking price after about three weeks. I knew what I wanted to get based on the specs (it was high-end at the time and I had replaced the drive and RAM) and just kept at it. I dropped the price a few times from my original buffer price to get down to where someone would finally offer me.

As for your 2013 Macbook Pro (it looks like a 2012 based on the specs you put forward, though), I would guess that 700 - 800$ USD (~500£ according to Google on the high end) would probably be normal for the US. I don't know how to adjust for England, honestly. It does look like you can get a similarly spec'ed model directly from Apple for £759.00 (http://store.apple.com/uk/product/FD101B/A/refurbished-133-inch-macBook-pro-25ghz-dual-core-intel-i5 (http://store.apple.com/uk/product/FD101B/A/refurbished-133-inch-macBook-pro-25ghz-dual-core-intel-i5)), so I would imagine you could nudge your price north a bit closer to that, but you're not going to get that since you're not Apple; the same model is $929 in the US (http://store.apple.com/us/product/FD101LL/A/refurbished-133-inch-macBook-pro-25ghz-dual-core-intel-i5 (http://store.apple.com/us/product/FD101LL/A/refurbished-133-inch-macBook-pro-25ghz-dual-core-intel-i5)).

For example, here is a sold listing for a very similar Macbook to yours, but with more memory: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Macbook-Pro-13-inch-2013-Mavericks-plus-extras-/131248448762?pt=Apple_Laptops&hash=item1e8f0464fa (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Macbook-Pro-13-inch-2013-Mavericks-plus-extras-/131248448762?pt=Apple_Laptops&hash=item1e8f0464fa)


Yeah it's the 2012 model but it was bought in 2013 as they hadn't done any refreshes and the only refresh was that of the Retina, so maybe that was the actual refresh?


I'm not an expert buyer/seller Mac expert even though I'm a Mac guy, but from what I've seen, Macs seem to rarely get "fire sale" pricing, though it can happen.

As for lowball offers, that happens with everything all the time, so don't consider/pay attention to them. We all know approximately what it's worth.

I know I'm not much help, just trying to reinforce you in your time of need.
 

Yeah I've begun to notice that.

So all in all, what you think? maybe lower it down to 585/600 GBP? You think that's a more reasonable price?

How about trying to contact others selling similar and seeing what they are open to discussing (selling at?). You can be bold because you're not actually buying. It's worth 2 hours of your time to do some poking around..

I'm not really sure what is reasonable where you are. Geographics play a small part in pricing.


Well I bought it for 999GBP last December, they're 899.99GBP now so I wasn't sure where to start and what not really, but if everyone seems to be selling them for 550-650, then why not go for the middle, as I've had to relist this twice already, as obviously my prices didn't suit the needs of others and what not.
Title: Re: Macbook evaluation
Post by: Input Nirvana on Sat, 27 September 2014, 10:06:11
I recently sold a 2010 Macbook Pro on Craigslist here and got a mess of seriously lowball offers. I finally found someone to buy it at my asking price after about three weeks. I knew what I wanted to get based on the specs (it was high-end at the time and I had replaced the drive and RAM) and just kept at it. I dropped the price a few times from my original buffer price to get down to where someone would finally offer me.

As for your 2013 Macbook Pro (it looks like a 2012 based on the specs you put forward, though), I would guess that 700 - 800$ USD (~500£ according to Google on the high end) would probably be normal for the US. I don't know how to adjust for England, honestly. It does look like you can get a similarly spec'ed model directly from Apple for £759.00 (http://store.apple.com/uk/product/FD101B/A/refurbished-133-inch-macBook-pro-25ghz-dual-core-intel-i5 (http://store.apple.com/uk/product/FD101B/A/refurbished-133-inch-macBook-pro-25ghz-dual-core-intel-i5)), so I would imagine you could nudge your price north a bit closer to that, but you're not going to get that since you're not Apple; the same model is $929 in the US (http://store.apple.com/us/product/FD101LL/A/refurbished-133-inch-macBook-pro-25ghz-dual-core-intel-i5 (http://store.apple.com/us/product/FD101LL/A/refurbished-133-inch-macBook-pro-25ghz-dual-core-intel-i5)).

For example, here is a sold listing for a very similar Macbook to yours, but with more memory: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Macbook-Pro-13-inch-2013-Mavericks-plus-extras-/131248448762?pt=Apple_Laptops&hash=item1e8f0464fa (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Macbook-Pro-13-inch-2013-Mavericks-plus-extras-/131248448762?pt=Apple_Laptops&hash=item1e8f0464fa)


Yeah it's the 2012 model but it was bought in 2013 as they hadn't done any refreshes and the only refresh was that of the Retina, so maybe that was the actual refresh?


I'm not an expert buyer/seller Mac expert even though I'm a Mac guy, but from what I've seen, Macs seem to rarely get "fire sale" pricing, though it can happen.

As for lowball offers, that happens with everything all the time, so don't consider/pay attention to them. We all know approximately what it's worth.

I know I'm not much help, just trying to reinforce you in your time of need.
 

Yeah I've begun to notice that.

So all in all, what you think? maybe lower it down to 585/600 GBP? You think that's a more reasonable price?

How about trying to contact others selling similar and seeing what they are open to discussing (selling at?). You can be bold because you're not actually buying. It's worth 2 hours of your time to do some poking around..

I'm not really sure what is reasonable where you are. Geographics play a small part in pricing.


Well I bought it for 999GBP last December, they're 899.99GBP now so I wasn't sure where to start and what not really, but if everyone seems to be selling them for 550-650, then why not go for the middle, as I've had to relist this twice already, as obviously my prices didn't suit the needs of others and what not.

I'm mostly a buyer, very little selling. But do what you need to do to get it sold, maybe throw in something that you don't need/want that could possible make it more desirable? Use pictures, use a lot of words/description, anything to attract more fish to the hook...it all increases your odds of a higher sale price.
Title: Re: Macbook evaluation
Post by: Fragil1ty on Sat, 27 September 2014, 10:20:22
I recently sold a 2010 Macbook Pro on Craigslist here and got a mess of seriously lowball offers. I finally found someone to buy it at my asking price after about three weeks. I knew what I wanted to get based on the specs (it was high-end at the time and I had replaced the drive and RAM) and just kept at it. I dropped the price a few times from my original buffer price to get down to where someone would finally offer me.

As for your 2013 Macbook Pro (it looks like a 2012 based on the specs you put forward, though), I would guess that 700 - 800$ USD (~500£ according to Google on the high end) would probably be normal for the US. I don't know how to adjust for England, honestly. It does look like you can get a similarly spec'ed model directly from Apple for £759.00 (http://store.apple.com/uk/product/FD101B/A/refurbished-133-inch-macBook-pro-25ghz-dual-core-intel-i5 (http://store.apple.com/uk/product/FD101B/A/refurbished-133-inch-macBook-pro-25ghz-dual-core-intel-i5)), so I would imagine you could nudge your price north a bit closer to that, but you're not going to get that since you're not Apple; the same model is $929 in the US (http://store.apple.com/us/product/FD101LL/A/refurbished-133-inch-macBook-pro-25ghz-dual-core-intel-i5 (http://store.apple.com/us/product/FD101LL/A/refurbished-133-inch-macBook-pro-25ghz-dual-core-intel-i5)).

For example, here is a sold listing for a very similar Macbook to yours, but with more memory: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Macbook-Pro-13-inch-2013-Mavericks-plus-extras-/131248448762?pt=Apple_Laptops&hash=item1e8f0464fa (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Macbook-Pro-13-inch-2013-Mavericks-plus-extras-/131248448762?pt=Apple_Laptops&hash=item1e8f0464fa)


Yeah it's the 2012 model but it was bought in 2013 as they hadn't done any refreshes and the only refresh was that of the Retina, so maybe that was the actual refresh?


I'm not an expert buyer/seller Mac expert even though I'm a Mac guy, but from what I've seen, Macs seem to rarely get "fire sale" pricing, though it can happen.

As for lowball offers, that happens with everything all the time, so don't consider/pay attention to them. We all know approximately what it's worth.

I know I'm not much help, just trying to reinforce you in your time of need.
 

Yeah I've begun to notice that.

So all in all, what you think? maybe lower it down to 585/600 GBP? You think that's a more reasonable price?

How about trying to contact others selling similar and seeing what they are open to discussing (selling at?). You can be bold because you're not actually buying. It's worth 2 hours of your time to do some poking around..

I'm not really sure what is reasonable where you are. Geographics play a small part in pricing.


Well I bought it for 999GBP last December, they're 899.99GBP now so I wasn't sure where to start and what not really, but if everyone seems to be selling them for 550-650, then why not go for the middle, as I've had to relist this twice already, as obviously my prices didn't suit the needs of others and what not.

I'm mostly a buyer, very little selling. But do what you need to do to get it sold, maybe throw in something that you don't need/want that could possible make it more desirable? Use pictures, use a lot of words/description, anything to attract more fish to the hook...it all increases your odds of a higher sale price.


I recently threw in a FREE Apple Magic Mouse as an incentive, so hopefully that will attract the buyers and what not, I might add a few more pictures, as everyone loves pictures right?

I think it should be gone relatively soon with the 600 pound price tag to be honest.

Thanks dude.
Title: Re: Macbook evaluation
Post by: frosty on Sat, 27 September 2014, 10:42:44
I'll value it 550-600£, since I sold my own macbook a couple of months back (2010 summer edition 13') I kinda have a bit of grasp on how much which macbooks can go.
Title: Re: Macbook evaluation
Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 27 September 2014, 12:49:52
With the downpour of negativity of my last thread, I was just wondering if any of you that are Mac enthusiasts or just use them or are involved with Mac updates and all that jazz able to give me an idea of what YOU would pay for:

2013" Macbook Pro w/

4 months of warranty left and the traditional specs:

  • 2.5GHz dual-core Intel Core i5
  • Turbo Boost up to 3.1GHz
  • 4GB 1600MHz memory
  • 500GB 5400-rpm hard drive1
  • Intel HD Graphics 4000
  • Built-in battery (7 hours)2

I've dropped it all the way from £750 to £650 /w 15 shipping but I still seem to be getting a lot of users wanting it for around 585 + shipping, so do you think it's still a tad too high or are Macbook pros just as valuable anymore?

If anyone has any insight, I would love your input as I'm in a bit of a tight situation at the moment (financially) and I need to sell this on, so I can manage other things and get them sorted.

Thanks


is that the baseline MD101**/A? If so it's relatively old hardware (mid 2012) and significantly slower / worse than apple's other offerings. Maybe the GBP isn't doing so hot 'cause you can get that brand new with full apple limeted warranty for $999 here in the US (for students. Retail is $100 more I believe). In actuality apple just requires a student ID # and .edu e-mail address.

Why even list turbo boost? just list the processor model number (intel 3210M) and call it good. It will save serious buyers some time
RAM, HDD are all lowest-end stuff. Can be upgraded but won't help your price.

Here's the deal as I see it: It's not even got applecare, it's really old, and it's the lowest end mac you can buy. If it had higher specs (like the 15" pre-retinas did with the GPU and CPU offerings, mainly due to them shoehorning a second fan in there) then it'd probably have kept it's value a lot more. Only cheapskates want the baseline so they can have the apple experience at low cost and such people will lowball you until they get a cheap deal. Apple fans usually shell out for better hardware.

anyway, that's my theory. I got a much better computer, running an OS I prefer, for much cheaper recently, so I'm quite happy. It seems the market for "not-well-used" machines isn't strong. or perhaps low-end business machines like your MBP and my HP just go for cheap. Before I sold it for $150 to a friend, I had offers of $500 for my mac pro 1,1 workstation from 2006. It's some of the first intel hardware apple made and still performs well with today's computers. It has dual xeon processors and 8*1gb RAM which was pretty impressive at the time. Even now it ran games fine with a modern GPU. I think the market for high end stuff will always be stronger than the market for low.

Knowing this, I think it's a good idea to buy used for lower end stuff and buy new for higher (unless your friend is giving you a good deal on some hardware).

according to ebay, these seem to go for about $650 for a decent one with some exceptions at about $800. That's 400 - 500 gbp. I think the rest of the difference is between the pricicng structure of apple It seems they price their computers a lot higher in the UK.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=md101ll%2Fa&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=0&LH_Sold=1&_udlo=&_udhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_fsradio2=%26LH_PrefLoc%3D99&_sadis=15&_stpos=&_fspt=1&_sargn=-1%26saslc%3D1&_salic=1&_sanli=1&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=50&LH_Complete=1

Anyway, best of luck with your sale. I do hope you get good money for it, but I think there's some obstacles in the market that will make it harder, unfortunately.