Post by: xxghostxx on Fri, 03 October 2014, 13:51:58
Post by: xxghostxx on Fri, 03 October 2014, 13:52:40
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 03 October 2014, 13:56:19
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 03 October 2014, 13:57:35
I've always heard they were overhyped and the premium cost was due to marketing.
Post by: Coreda on Fri, 03 October 2014, 13:59:26
Post by: xxghostxx on Fri, 03 October 2014, 14:00:02
Post by: pichu23 on Fri, 03 October 2014, 14:02:09
Tbh, it's not REALLY that comfortable plus it's breaking apart lately.
I'm looking for a replacement atm. :D
Btw, here's a video. Sorta like a review thing.
Post by: slip84 on Fri, 03 October 2014, 14:02:32
I've always heard they were overhyped and the premium cost was due to marketing.Correction: profit margin.
Post by: baldgye on Fri, 03 October 2014, 14:06:07
Post by: baldgye on Fri, 03 October 2014, 14:06:22
Post by: slip84 on Fri, 03 October 2014, 14:09:11
Post by: baldgye on Fri, 03 October 2014, 14:14:04
Care to elaborate? It was Dre and Iovine to the best of my knowledge. And now they have ****loads of cash.
Basically Monster, (the company responsible for trying to sue a guy who said you can't tell the difference between their $20,000 hdmi cable and a random $50 hdmi cable) spent millions designing and pitching the beats headphones to people and dre and his buddie managed to get all the rights and make all the money while monster get nothing and are left with the r&d bill... it's pretty amazing
Post by: xxghostxx on Fri, 03 October 2014, 14:14:58
Post by: xxghostxx on Fri, 03 October 2014, 14:18:01
Post by: The Mad Professor on Fri, 03 October 2014, 14:27:38
Care to elaborate? It was Dre and Iovine to the best of my knowledge. And now they have ****loads of cash.
Basically Monster, (the company responsible for trying to sue a guy who said you can't tell the difference between their $20,000 hdmi cable and a random $50 hdmi cable) spent millions designing and pitching the beats headphones to people and dre and his buddie managed to get all the rights and make all the money while monster get nothing and are left with the r&d bill... it's pretty amazing
And yet, they're still no better than $50 headphones you can buy at Walmart...
I guess that after all the double crossing and bill-sticking, it was the consumers who got rightly ****ed in the ass.
Post by: baldgye on Fri, 03 October 2014, 14:28:55
it was the consumers who got rightly ****ed in the ass.
Only those who chose to buy them... even then, they are more of a fashion statement than pure headphones in the traditional sense...
Post by: slip84 on Fri, 03 October 2014, 14:31:21
Care to elaborate? It was Dre and Iovine to the best of my knowledge. And now they have ****loads of cash.
Basically Monster, (the company responsible for trying to sue a guy who said you can't tell the difference between their $20,000 hdmi cable and a random $50 hdmi cable) spent millions designing and pitching the beats headphones to people and dre and his buddie managed to get all the rights and make all the money while monster get nothing and are left with the r&d bill... it's pretty amazing
Fun twist is that I have heard (though not sampled myself because I love my Sennheiser/Grado/HiFiMan situation) their headphones aren't all that bad.
I had totally forgotten about them jumping ship from Monster. I don't blame them, though. I don't exactly have a positive impression of Monster as a whole. I used to work at Best Buy and had a hard time recommending their $80 HDMI over one that was $20.
I mean, they're no AudioQuest after all: http://www.amazon.com/AudioQuest-Diamond-2m-Braided-Cable/dp/B003CT2A2M
Post by: Lanx on Fri, 03 October 2014, 14:34:58
it's ****, just like Bose is ****.
Post by: demik on Fri, 03 October 2014, 14:47:39
I've seen triple thread posts before, but quadruple and with identical first replies? Impressive :cool:
How do you think ray gets his post count up?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 03 October 2014, 14:57:43
I've seen triple thread posts before, but quadruple and with identical first replies? Impressive 8)
How do you think ray gets his post count up?
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How do you get it up demik??
Post by: RED-404 on Fri, 03 October 2014, 15:03:47
I think I will stick with my Shure SRH840 and Alessandro MS1i headphones for now until I can get the HiFiMAN HE-400 or HE-400i headphones.
As for cleaning, I just use alcohol wipes and change out the pads if needed or during a re-cable. Grado & Alessandro need the most mantanance if you have long hair or a full beard/sidberns you will probly need some tweazers for hair cleanup on them.
Post by: noisyturtle on Fri, 03 October 2014, 19:04:42
Post by: sobe on Fri, 03 October 2014, 20:49:06
For $250 you can get something that would, in essence, decimate anything Beats by Dre has. Hell, a $70 pair of CAL! (Denon 1001) will blow them away, unless of course you like poor sound quality mixed with over the top bass/sub-bass.
Post by: mogo on Fri, 03 October 2014, 21:02:26
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How do you get it up demik??
12k posts. Jesus. Congrats on that man :O
Post by: demik on Fri, 03 October 2014, 21:09:39
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How do you get it up demik??
12k posts. Jesus. Congrats on that man :O
don't encourage him >.>
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Fri, 03 October 2014, 21:39:19
Even the newer beats are lousy and the newest version of the studios has such a hiss >.> it's worse than a set of low impedence IEMs (most likely so that people who buy them can crank the volume up)
Coincidently, it seems nowadays people judge the quality of headphones based on how loud they get from turning the headphones to max on their phones which would make a lot of sense with what beats has done with all their headphones (made them ridiculously sensitive so literally a potato can power them)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 04 October 2014, 01:49:33
Oh come on I don't post nearly as much as I used to.
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How do you get it up demik??
12k posts. Jesus. Congrats on that man :O
don't encourage him >.>
Post by: demik on Sat, 04 October 2014, 01:54:28
i've been here for 3 and have under 10k.
granted i've been banned and muted more times than you, but still. your only rival is your aussie twin
Post by: katushkin on Sat, 04 October 2014, 08:16:19
Post by: xxghostxx on Sat, 04 October 2014, 20:56:49
Post by: demik on Sat, 04 October 2014, 21:46:11
Post by: davkol on Wed, 08 October 2014, 13:51:04
Post by: notsonerd on Wed, 08 October 2014, 14:20:08
Go to Head-Fi if you wanna get flamed for asking about Beats. Any "best headphone" Google search result will give you plenty of great options that trump Beats by Dre.
If you still wanna get Beats, get them for the brand and build quality--not for the sound.
Post by: davkol on Wed, 08 October 2014, 14:29:33
Post by: demik on Wed, 08 October 2014, 14:34:37
Beats will do a better job than your $20 budget headphones, but not much better than that.
Go to Head-Fi if you wanna get flamed for asking about Beats. Any "best headphone" Google search result will give you plenty of great options that trump Beats by Dre.
If you still wanna get Beats, get them for the brand and build quality--not for the sound.
man you sure do talk out of your ass a lot
Post by: notsonerd on Wed, 08 October 2014, 14:51:55
man you sure do talk out of your ass a lot
If there's a way to talk out of my rear end, I don't know it. Farts, maybe?
I got a pair of Beats as a present. I own a decent pair of $20 headphones. The $20 pair was better.
There, now I spoke from experience.
Post by: Signature on Wed, 08 October 2014, 14:52:52
Beats will do a better job than your $20 budget headphones, but not much better than that.The build quality of beats are the best, said no one ever...
Go to Head-Fi if you wanna get flamed for asking about Beats. Any "best headphone" Google search result will give you plenty of great options that trump Beats by Dre.
If you still wanna get Beats, get them for the brand and build quality--not for the sound.
Post by: demik on Wed, 08 October 2014, 14:56:43
so you say beats do a better job than 20 dollar headphones, but not by much. then you say your 20 dollar headphones are better than your beats. going to make up your mind on that one?man you sure do talk out of your ass a lot
If there's a way to talk out of my rear end, I don't know it. Farts, maybe?
I got a pair of Beats as a present. I own a decent pair of $20 headphones. The $20 pair was better.
There, now I spoke from experience.
build quality on solos were horrible. head band was constantly snapping due to crap design and plastics used.
Post by: notsonerd on Wed, 08 October 2014, 14:57:16
Beats will do a better job than your $20 budget headphones, but not much better than that.The build quality of beats are the best, said no one ever...
Go to Head-Fi if you wanna get flamed for asking about Beats. Any "best headphone" Google search result will give you plenty of great options that trump Beats by Dre.
If you still wanna get Beats, get them for the brand and build quality--not for the sound.
No one has to say anything. Their studio line is physically built well. The sound just isn't up-to-par.
@demik: Did I say that they beat my $20 budget headphones? Re-read the original post. I said "your."
Post by: pichu23 on Wed, 08 October 2014, 14:57:47
Post by: JinDesu on Wed, 08 October 2014, 14:58:20
Cheapo Sennheisers (like the 428/429) will be as good audio-wise as any of the Beats/Bose. Lighter and better ergonomics too. Alternatively, Audio Technica, Brainwavz, Sony, etc all make $100 headphones that are better than any of the Beats in quality. So you're paying for brand and look (which is what Bose is also).
Post by: pichu23 on Wed, 08 October 2014, 15:02:56
It's true though. I've compared similar priced Beats headphones to Bose headphones in stores, and the Bose headphones are always better than the Beats. And that's knowing that Bose headphones are overpriced also. Most of the Beats headphones I've tried are too heavy/too clampy, the earpads aren't as comfortable as some cheaper alternatives (I had a Sennheiser 428 that is amaaaaazing~), and the sound is geared towards heavy bass.
Cheapo Sennheisers (like the 428/429) will be as good audio-wise as any of the Beats/Bose. Lighter and better ergonomics too. Alternatively, Audio Technica, Brainwavz, Sony, etc all make $100 headphones that are better than any of the Beats in quality. So you're paying for brand and look (which is what Bose is also).
Ehh, the Bose SoundTrue I tried on was pretty good. Comfy as well. :)
Post by: demik on Wed, 08 October 2014, 15:04:39
Beats will do a better job than your $20 budget headphones, but not much better than that.The build quality of beats are the best, said no one ever...
Go to Head-Fi if you wanna get flamed for asking about Beats. Any "best headphone" Google search result will give you plenty of great options that trump Beats by Dre.
If you still wanna get Beats, get them for the brand and build quality--not for the sound.
No one has to say anything. Their studio line is physically built well. The sound just isn't up-to-par.
@demik: Did I say that they beat my $20 budget headphones? Re-read the original post. I said "your."
so your generalizations dont even make sense. either stick with what you say or be more specific since you have "experience".
Post by: notsonerd on Wed, 08 October 2014, 15:06:38
Beats will do a better job than your $20 budget headphones, but not much better than that.The build quality of beats are the best, said no one ever...
Go to Head-Fi if you wanna get flamed for asking about Beats. Any "best headphone" Google search result will give you plenty of great options that trump Beats by Dre.
If you still wanna get Beats, get them for the brand and build quality--not for the sound.
No one has to say anything. Their studio line is physically built well. The sound just isn't up-to-par.
@demik: Did I say that they beat my $20 budget headphones? Re-read the original post. I said "your."
so your generalizations dont even make sense. either stick with what you say or be more specific since you have "experience".
Or you can keep up.
Post by: demik on Wed, 08 October 2014, 15:12:23
Beats will do a better job than your $20 budget headphones, but not much better than that.The build quality of beats are the best, said no one ever...
Go to Head-Fi if you wanna get flamed for asking about Beats. Any "best headphone" Google search result will give you plenty of great options that trump Beats by Dre.
If you still wanna get Beats, get them for the brand and build quality--not for the sound.
No one has to say anything. Their studio line is physically built well. The sound just isn't up-to-par.
@demik: Did I say that they beat my $20 budget headphones? Re-read the original post. I said "your."
so your generalizations dont even make sense. either stick with what you say or be more specific since you have "experience".
Or you can keep up.
keep up with what? your constant position changing?
its pretty simple you said, beats are sightly better than 20 dollar headphones. in another reply you say your 20 dollar headphones are better. so, obviously that voids your first statement. am i suppose to guess your future replies before i reply to you or what?
Post by: Signature on Wed, 08 October 2014, 15:15:57
THe build quality is not good for a 300+$ headphone. Just built out of plastic and aren't durable at all, expecially in Sweden where temperature goes below -10C (14.000ºF)Beats will do a better job than your $20 budget headphones, but not much better than that.The build quality of beats are the best, said no one ever...
Go to Head-Fi if you wanna get flamed for asking about Beats. Any "best headphone" Google search result will give you plenty of great options that trump Beats by Dre.
If you still wanna get Beats, get them for the brand and build quality--not for the sound.
No one has to say anything. Their studio line is physically built well. The sound just isn't up-to-par.
@demik: Did I say that they beat my $20 budget headphones? Re-read the original post. I said "your."
Post by: notsonerd on Wed, 08 October 2014, 15:20:01
Beats will do a better job than your $20 budget headphones, but not much better than that.The build quality of beats are the best, said no one ever...
Go to Head-Fi if you wanna get flamed for asking about Beats. Any "best headphone" Google search result will give you plenty of great options that trump Beats by Dre.
If you still wanna get Beats, get them for the brand and build quality--not for the sound.
No one has to say anything. Their studio line is physically built well. The sound just isn't up-to-par.
@demik: Did I say that they beat my $20 budget headphones? Re-read the original post. I said "your."
so your generalizations dont even make sense. either stick with what you say or be more specific since you have "experience".
Or you can keep up.
keep up with what? your constant position changing?
its pretty simple you said, beats are sightly better than 20 dollar headphones. in another reply you say your 20 dollar headphones are better. so, obviously that voids your first statement. am i suppose to guess your future replies before i reply to you or what?
I'm sorry if I threw you off with my shift in positions regarding $20 headphones vs Beats.
No, you don't have to guess the point I'm trying to make before you decide to reply. I guess for some that did seem unclear. Mixed in with my own bias towards Beats what I stated was purely my own opinion.
What I should have said is that for $20 the pair of headphones I choose to use over Beats does a much better job at its price-point than Beats in its own price range. However, the Beats do still win-out.
Again, I apologize if I offended you or anyone else reading my posts.
Post by: Signature on Wed, 08 October 2014, 15:23:43
Just cause we disagree on an opinion doesn´t mean we are offended, we just have different opinionsBeats will do a better job than your $20 budget headphones, but not much better than that.The build quality of beats are the best, said no one ever...
Go to Head-Fi if you wanna get flamed for asking about Beats. Any "best headphone" Google search result will give you plenty of great options that trump Beats by Dre.
If you still wanna get Beats, get them for the brand and build quality--not for the sound.
No one has to say anything. Their studio line is physically built well. The sound just isn't up-to-par.
@demik: Did I say that they beat my $20 budget headphones? Re-read the original post. I said "your."
so your generalizations dont even make sense. either stick with what you say or be more specific since you have "experience".
Or you can keep up.
keep up with what? your constant position changing?
its pretty simple you said, beats are sightly better than 20 dollar headphones. in another reply you say your 20 dollar headphones are better. so, obviously that voids your first statement. am i suppose to guess your future replies before i reply to you or what?
I'm sorry if I threw you off with my shift in positions regarding $20 headphones vs Beats.
No, you don't have to guess the point I'm trying to make before you decide to reply. I guess for some that did seem unclear. Mixed in with my own bias towards Beats what I stated was purely my own opinion.
What I should have said is that for $20 the pair of headphones I choose to use over Beats does a much better job at its price-point than Beats in its own price range. However, the Beats do still win-out.
Again, I apologize if I offended you or anyone else reading my posts.
Post by: JinDesu on Wed, 08 October 2014, 15:29:10
It's true though. I've compared similar priced Beats headphones to Bose headphones in stores, and the Bose headphones are always better than the Beats. And that's knowing that Bose headphones are overpriced also. Most of the Beats headphones I've tried are too heavy/too clampy, the earpads aren't as comfortable as some cheaper alternatives (I had a Sennheiser 428 that is amaaaaazing~), and the sound is geared towards heavy bass.
Cheapo Sennheisers (like the 428/429) will be as good audio-wise as any of the Beats/Bose. Lighter and better ergonomics too. Alternatively, Audio Technica, Brainwavz, Sony, etc all make $100 headphones that are better than any of the Beats in quality. So you're paying for brand and look (which is what Bose is also).
Ehh, the Bose SoundTrue I tried on was pretty good. Comfy as well. :)
I gotta admit, I generalize a bit on Bose products based on the ones available in store locally. Haven't tried the SoundTrue to compare.
Post by: notsonerd on Wed, 08 October 2014, 15:31:22