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Title: what's your favorite keyboard and what do you hate about it?
Post by: demik on Sat, 04 October 2014, 21:43:12
hhkb is my fav board.

i dislike that it's 45g and case mounted.

55g plate mounted would make this board 110% better.
Title: Re: what's your favorite keyboard and what do you hate about it?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 04 October 2014, 21:53:08
ducky shine 2 with stock clears

it sucks I can't buy another one
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Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 04 October 2014, 21:53:19
KUL

it's not a GON
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Post by: FrostyToast on Sat, 04 October 2014, 21:56:44
Kishaver
It's not in my hands...
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Post by: Sent on Sat, 04 October 2014, 21:57:56
22Mini-EX. All the switches are upside down so the LED's are up top. Bothers the **** out of me. Not sure why Kaliet did a bunch of the 22's this way. None of my other boards from him were like this.
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Post by: Jotokun on Sat, 04 October 2014, 22:02:57
IBM Model F 122, ANSI Modded.

The size. This thing is so big that I get shoulder pain if I try to use my mouse to the right like other keyboards. Chop off the numberpad, slim the bezels and this thing would be perfect.

Such a beast almost exists, too... the Unsaver, as well as the Kishsaver's 77-key sibling. Those are rather hard to find though, and still have the thick bezels.
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Post by: dustinhxc on Sat, 04 October 2014, 22:10:31
Happy Hacking Professional JP 45G
It doesn't have an aluminum case.
It doesn't have a steel plate.
It doesn't have a HASU Controller.
Title: Re: what's your favorite keyboard and what do you hate about it?
Post by: demik on Sat, 04 October 2014, 22:15:07
IBM Model F 122, ANSI Modded.

The size. This thing is so big that I get shoulder pain if I try to use my mouse to the right like other keyboards. Chop off the numberpad, slim the bezels and this thing would be perfect.

Such a beast almost exists, too... the Unsaver, as well as the Kishsaver's 77-key sibling. Those are rather hard to find though, and still have the thick bezels.

this is one thing i don't like about older keyboards.

i love the SSK, but the huge case makes me not want to use it. just takes up too much space and it's tall as hell. granted, i'm used to my hhkb and anything bigger than it looks huge but still.
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Post by: Elocutive on Sat, 04 October 2014, 22:16:08
Duck orion

I can't buy one :(
Title: Re: what's your favorite keyboard and what do you hate about it?
Post by: dante on Sat, 04 October 2014, 22:16:43
Matias Tactile Pro 4.

Hate: Mac specific, Cheap looking glossy plastic, tall typing profile, still moves around too easily (needs more rubber on the bottom.)

60% Alps gravy train can't get here soon enough!

... People are also listing keyboards they can't afford/obtain - make mine the KingSaver.  :'(
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Post by: demik on Sat, 04 October 2014, 22:52:15
Matias Tactile Pro 4.

Hate: Mac specific, Cheap looking glossy plastic, tall typing profile, still moves around too easily (needs more rubber on the bottom.)

60% Alps gravy train can't get here soon enough!

... People are also listing keyboards they can't afford/obtain - make mine the KingSaver.  :'(

yeah and i wish they didn't.
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Post by: yasuo on Sat, 04 October 2014, 22:54:17
uTRON i hate because expensive *sorry weak reason :))
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Post by: Photekq on Sat, 04 October 2014, 22:56:10
IBM 3278

Too tall... It's really uncomfortable without some kind of rest.
Not standard ANSI layout :(
Doesn't have a converter installed yet

Honestly, those first two might kill it for me once I have it converted. In which case, 360c will be my favourite. Only thing I hate about the 360c is that it isn't beamspring switches :))
Title: Re: what's your favorite keyboard and what do you hate about it?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 04 October 2014, 23:40:50
My favourite keyboard is my kishsaver and I hate that I can't use it at work.

My other favourite board is the hhkb and I hate that I need a custom controller to have a delete key on the base layer.
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Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 04 October 2014, 23:57:48
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Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 04 October 2014, 23:59:42
456 GT and the fact I don't have it ;)
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Post by: The_Beast on Sun, 05 October 2014, 00:02:25
My favourite keyboard is my kishsaver and I hate that I can't use it at work.

My other favourite board is the hhkb and I hate that I need a custom controller to have a delete key on the base layer.

Quit your job and look for another one. Before hiring, put in your contract that you require the tinsaver as part of the job.
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Post by: jonathanyu on Sun, 05 October 2014, 00:07:26
456gt
it doesn't produced in blue  :-[
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Post by: Rodgaroon on Sun, 05 October 2014, 01:49:13
My Poker II with Green on White ABS Double Shots.

My Tex Case and Granite R2 are still in production.
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Post by: ComradeSniper on Sun, 05 October 2014, 02:03:19
HHKB
There's no black Type-S
Title: Re: what's your favorite keyboard and what do you hate about it?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 05 October 2014, 10:39:54

My favourite keyboard is my kishsaver and I hate that I can't use it at work.

My other favourite board is the hhkb and I hate that I need a custom controller to have a delete key on the base layer.

Perhaps you should ask how your fellow mods have their keyboards setup, because their delete keys work exceptionally well.

There are no dip switches that allow delete to work without pushing a function key beforehand. I want delete on the base layer rather than a function layer. I would be ecstatic to be proven wrong though.  :D
Title: Re: what's your favorite keyboard and what do you hate about it?
Post by: Lurch on Sun, 05 October 2014, 10:44:09
Kishaver
It's not in my hands...

This.
Title: Re: what's your favorite keyboard and what do you hate about it?
Post by: radio_killah on Sun, 05 October 2014, 10:45:56
Absolutely in love with my hhkb but I wish keycaps were more widely available for them.
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Post by: _PixelNinja on Sun, 05 October 2014, 10:52:25
– My favorite keyboard: FILCO Ninja TKL MX Red.
– What I hate about it: no Micro-USB detachable cable.
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Post by: esoomenona on Sun, 05 October 2014, 11:02:15
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Title: Re: what's your favorite keyboard and what do you hate about it?
Post by: Grim Fandango on Sun, 05 October 2014, 11:11:37
Realforce 87u

What I hate about it ?

The price.
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Post by: Hypersphere on Sun, 05 October 2014, 11:25:14
HHKB Pro 2.

It's not a Type-S 55g with a black case and steel plate (not sure I really want the steel plate, however).
Title: Re: what's your favorite keyboard and what do you hate about it?
Post by: Belfong on Sun, 05 October 2014, 11:26:35
I kinda like the Realforce and hate that it doesn't have volume control!
Title: Re: what's your favorite keyboard and what do you hate about it?
Post by: demik on Sun, 05 October 2014, 11:31:48
There are no dip switches that allow delete to work without pushing a function key beforehand. I want delete on the base layer rather than a function layer. I would be ecstatic to be proven wrong though.  :D

Although you seem to have missed my point... I will help you. With dipswitch #3 turned to the OFF position, where one would usually find \| would be Delete, without the use of a Fn key, on the base layer. Pressing Fn + this key should be Backspace. Flipping dipswitch #3 to the ON position changes that key to Backspace on the base layer, and moves Delete to the Fn layer, on the `~ key. Is this not your experience?

edit: It should be noted that I think this doesn't work properly when dipswitch #2 is turned ON with #1 turned OFF (Mac mode). Try keeping #1 and #2 off, and see what happens. And then try #1 ON and see what happens. Also, you must unplug before changing the switch, then replug it in for the changes to take effect.

my guess is that he wants both on thr base layer.

same thing nubs was complaining about.
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Post by: Tasker on Sun, 05 October 2014, 11:32:16
The only mechanical keyboard I've owned is my Corsair K70 and I love it!!

But... it really could do with a few more function buttons in my opinion. I got used to an old dell keyboard I had with buttons for launching things like the browser, "My Computer", calculator etc.
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Post by: ksm123 on Sun, 05 October 2014, 11:33:31
Ergodox, its not buckling spring.
Title: Re: what's your favorite keyboard and what do you hate about it?
Post by: berserkfan on Sun, 05 October 2014, 11:43:54
My Tipro.

My jailhouse blues on the Tipro, which are still not fully consistent.
Title: Re: what's your favorite keyboard and what do you hate about it?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 05 October 2014, 11:47:33

There are no dip switches that allow delete to work without pushing a function key beforehand. I want delete on the base layer rather than a function layer. I would be ecstatic to be proven wrong though.  :D

Although you seem to have missed my point... I will help you. With dipswitch #3 turned to the OFF position, where one would usually find \| would be Delete, without the use of a Fn key, on the base layer. Pressing Fn + this key should be Backspace. Flipping dipswitch #3 to the ON position changes that key to Backspace on the base layer, and moves Delete to the Fn layer, on the `~ key. Is this not your experience?

edit: It should be noted that I think this doesn't work properly when dipswitch #2 is turned ON with #1 turned OFF (Mac mode). Try keeping #1 and #2 off, and see what happens. And then try #1 ON and see what happens. Also, you must unplug before changing the switch, then replug it in for the changes to take effect.

my guess is that he wants both on thr base layer.

same thing nubs was complaining about.

Yep. I should have clarified that I want the backspace in the superior spot and delete on the base layer in the upper right. I don't have it in front of me right now, but IIRC the delete key doesn't even have a use on the base layer, just the function layer. But I'm not positive. Anyway, I've accepted the fact that I will need a custom controller and that's fine.  :thumb:
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Post by: esoomenona on Sun, 05 October 2014, 11:54:09
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Post by: Tiramisuu on Sun, 05 October 2014, 11:58:01
Time to plug that nice teensy into the hhkb and make it your slave.
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Post by: jonathanyu on Sun, 05 October 2014, 12:35:39
Ergodox, its not buckling spring.
than you will need a m15
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Post by: jonathanyu on Sun, 05 October 2014, 12:36:45
another favorite keyboard is utron.
The price  :-\
Title: Re: what's your favorite keyboard and what do you hate about it?
Post by: Hypersphere on Sun, 05 October 2014, 13:21:09
I kinda like the Realforce and hate that it doesn't have volume control!
Yes, just noticed that you are correct. I alternate between a HHKB Pro 2 black and RF 87 ub black on my Mac. The HHKB Pro 2 has volume controls in the Fn layer, and when remapping my RF with Karabiner remapping software, I had automatically set up volume controls and didn't even notice they were not intrinsically present. The Rf is such a great keyboard, I can forgive its lack of a built-in volume control. :)
Title: Re: what's your favorite keyboard and what do you hate about it?
Post by: demik on Sun, 05 October 2014, 13:33:41
no volume control? no problem!

get yourself a griffin powermate. they have both a usb version (windows/mac) and a bluetooth version (mac only)

handy little things imo
Title: Re: what's your favorite keyboard and what do you hate about it?
Post by: exitfire401 on Sun, 05 October 2014, 13:35:08
My Kingsaver and HHKB are tied for my favorite. Hate that there are no Artisan caps for the Kingsaver, and hate that I can't get an Alu case for my HHKB.
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Post by: Premonition on Sun, 05 October 2014, 13:35:20
HHKB Type-S. I hate that it slides around so much.
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Post by: pr0ximity on Sun, 05 October 2014, 13:35:34
My Realforce would be perfect if it had a detachable USB. I can't bring myself to defile it with a dremel just yet.
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Post by: demik on Sun, 05 October 2014, 13:51:26
My Realforce would be perfect if it had a detachable USB. I can't bring myself to defile it with a dremel just yet.
digilog case! or whatever its called
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Post by: HipsterPunks on Sun, 05 October 2014, 14:20:07
my FC660C

i hate that the mods arent standard sizes and im basically screwed swapping out some stock mod keys with anything else. However the new dyestubs are of fantastic quality so its really no biggie.

(http://i.imgur.com/O5pJovC.jpg)
Title: Re: what's your favorite keyboard and what do you hate about it?
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 05 October 2014, 18:54:40

IBM Model F 122, ANSI Modded.

The size.
Chop off the numberpad, slim the bezels and this thing would be perfect.


Oh no!

The numpad is the entire reason that I got started on these behemoths.

Now that I am accustomed to it (again), the left side function keys rule.



HHKB Type-S. I hate that it slides around so much.


One of my EPDM keyboard mats will help with that quite a bit.

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59308.0
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Post by: Fragil1ty on Sun, 05 October 2014, 19:09:10
Noppoo Choc Mini.

That they break far too easily and don't have a very high QoS rate, they are mass manufacturer in China and because of this, a lot of them break after a good few months and that's what I hate, I find myself spending $100 every 6 months because it has began to show signs of wear and tear.
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Post by: pr0ximity on Sun, 05 October 2014, 19:17:03
My Realforce would be perfect if it had a detachable USB. I can't bring myself to defile it with a dremel just yet.
digilog case! or whatever its called

My body is ready but my wallet isn't quite yet.
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Post by: MahBoi on Sun, 05 October 2014, 19:47:15
My favorite keyboard is the SIIG MiniTouch with the blue SMK switches.

I hate that the PgUp, PgDn, Home, and End keys require the Fn key.
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Post by: Elocutive on Sun, 05 October 2014, 19:55:17
My Realforce would be perfect if it had a detachable USB. I can't bring myself to defile it with a dremel just yet.
digilog case! or whatever its called

My body is ready but my wallet isn't quite yet.
Where does one even buy a digilog case nowadays?
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Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 05 October 2014, 21:01:23
My Realforce would be perfect if it had a detachable USB. I can't bring myself to defile it with a dremel just yet.
digilog case! or whatever its called

My body is ready but my wallet isn't quite yet.
Where does one even buy a digilog case nowadays?
Are they not on eBay anymore?
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Post by: demik on Sun, 05 October 2014, 21:05:14
im ron burgundy?
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Post by: Elocutive on Sun, 05 October 2014, 21:05:34
My Realforce would be perfect if it had a detachable USB. I can't bring myself to defile it with a dremel just yet.
digilog case! or whatever its called

My body is ready but my wallet isn't quite yet.
Where does one even buy a digilog case nowadays?
Are they not on eBay anymore?
Don't see it.
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Post by: Flyersfan1 on Sun, 05 October 2014, 21:05:46
My Realforce would be perfect if it had a detachable USB. I can't bring myself to defile it with a dremel just yet.
digilog case! or whatever its called

My body is ready but my wallet isn't quite yet.
Where does one even buy a digilog case nowadays?
Are they not on eBay anymore?
They're still available.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Full-Aluminum-Keyboard-Housing-with-USB-2-0-HUB-for-Topre-Realforce-87-86-89-/161380487771?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item259306d25b (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Full-Aluminum-Keyboard-Housing-with-USB-2-0-HUB-for-Topre-Realforce-87-86-89-/161380487771?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item259306d25b)
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Post by: noisyturtle on Sun, 05 October 2014, 21:45:03
My favorite keyboard is my customized Filco, and the only thing I don't like about it is that the aluminum case is so freaking heavy. It sucks because it gives the board the stability and zero flex I want, but a modern TKL that weighs 7+lbs is ridiculous. But what can you do? You want that feel and stability you have a metal case, and aluminum is the lightest material cases are available in.
Maybe someone will make a carbon fiber TKL case.
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Post by: Karura on Mon, 06 October 2014, 01:21:31
My favorite keyboard is my customized Filco, and the only thing I don't like about it is that the aluminum case is so freaking heavy. It sucks because it gives the board the stability and zero flex I want, but a modern TKL that weighs 7+lbs is ridiculous. But what can you do? You want that feel and stability you have a metal case, and aluminum is the lightest material cases are available in.
Maybe someone will make a carbon fiber TKL case.
Do you have a build thread or photos? I love seeing modded filcos.
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Post by: Oobly on Mon, 06 October 2014, 01:30:36
My DIY ergo board.. I hate that I used such poor plugs / sockets on the connecting cable between the halves, I have to make sure they're seated every time I adjust the position of the board. Definitely using RJ11 plugs on my next version.

2nd favourite is my KBT Pure Limited with Hammer plate and modded ErgoClears with white LED's. I hate that it doesn't have GMK Dolch keycaps on yet, but only a few weeks to wait now.... drool....
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Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 06 October 2014, 01:43:12
My favorite keyboard is my customized Filco, and the only thing I don't like about it is that the aluminum case is so freaking heavy. It sucks because it gives the board the stability and zero flex I want, but a modern TKL that weighs 7+lbs is ridiculous. But what can you do? You want that feel and stability you have a metal case, and aluminum is the lightest material cases are available in.
Maybe someone will make a carbon fiber TKL case.
Do you have a build thread or photos? I love seeing modded filcos.

Here are some older photos, it hasn't changed too much though. I still use her every single day ;)
https://imgur.com/a/2VpaN (https://imgur.com/a/2VpaN)
https://i.imgur.com/X3cx7Ns.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/X3cx7Ns.jpg)
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Post by: Morwrath on Mon, 06 October 2014, 01:47:18
My Ducky Mini nordic :)
Wish I had gone for a different switch than brown since I had brown on my old noppoo.
Really want to test out clears.
Title: Re: what's your favorite keyboard and what do you hate about it?
Post by: saturnotaku on Mon, 06 October 2014, 08:45:14
My Realforce would be perfect if it had a detachable USB. I can't bring myself to defile it with a dremel just yet.

Mimic (http://www.mimic-cables.com/collections/sleeved-cables/products/custom-usb-cable) can make a USB cable with the Realforce connector. I think those are going to be next on my shopping list.

I love both my Realforce keyboards, but I wish they had a DIP switch to swap the Windows and Alt keys to create a proper Mac layout. On the variable silent, it would be nice if the home row were all 45g. Methinks it's time for some modding to take care of that.
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Post by: MahBoi on Tue, 07 October 2014, 10:48:08
My favorite keyboard is my customized Filco, and the only thing I don't like about it is that the aluminum case is so freaking heavy. It sucks because it gives the board the stability and zero flex I want, but a modern TKL that weighs 7+lbs is ridiculous. But what can you do? You want that feel and stability you have a metal case, and aluminum is the lightest material cases are available in.
Maybe someone will make a carbon fiber TKL case.
Do you have a build thread or photos? I love seeing modded filcos.

Here are some older photos, it hasn't changed too much though. I still use her every single day ;)
https://imgur.com/a/2VpaN (https://imgur.com/a/2VpaN)
https://i.imgur.com/X3cx7Ns.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/X3cx7Ns.jpg)

Man, that's a beautiful board. I love the keycaps in the first picture with it.
And I agree, I'd be willing to drop some dough for a carbon fiber case on my Filco.
Title: Re: what's your favorite keyboard and what do you hate about it?
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 October 2014, 10:50:40
My favourite keyboard is my kishsaver and I hate that I can't use it at work.

My other favourite board is the hhkb and I hate that I need a custom controller to have a delete key on the base layer.

Quit your job and look for another one. Before hiring, put in your contract that you require the tinsaver as part of the job.

I have the same problem. Can't 6019284 at work. :(



Other than that, I love my Kingsaver with Complicated Blue Alps switches but hate that it doesn't seem to be grounded correctly. Or that it doesn't play nicely with my apartment's electrical system. And that its impossible to get fun colors for the keycaps nor are there many novelties for Alps switches.