Really, I'd rather keep the full layout and get rid of the "lock" keys.
I never use the numpad area for anything other than numbers, so I don't see the need for Numlock.
Caps Lock...well, why is it there?
Scroll Lock... How often do you need to stop the text from scrolling in a terminal?
I just don't like compact boards...:ohwell:
capslock should be taken out back and shot. I mean seriously, there should be nationwide conferences by all major computer manufacturers on the topic of the capslock and how to collectively agree on moving it out of its prime real estate its taking up.
capslock should be taken out back and shot. I mean seriously, there should be nationwide conferences by all major computer manufacturers on the topic of the capslock and how to collectively agree on moving it out of its prime real estate its taking up.
I totally agree that arrow clusters should be either squished in with alphabet cluster like on laptops or integrated into home row like hhkb. They're a complete waste of resources and material, like the jonas brothers. (;-D )
numpads should remain I think, and slimmed down a bit and moved to the left side (or avail as modular so you can choose which side to put them)
Agree about the useless jonas brothers! Ever considered one of these (http://www.datadesktech.com/desktop_lbb_start.html)?
Discussions like this are why I'm going to be hanging on to my Model Ms until I'm in my grave. I'm a mainframe programmer and a touch typist (old school trained on a manual typewriter back in 7th grade). I navigate my 3270 session using arrow and PF keys and the 'Insert-Home-Delete-End' keys, the mouse and the scroll wheel don't work in that world and I don't want to have to look at the arrow keys to use them.
Damn kids, get off my lawn!
I used to think that getting rid of the arrow cluster and replacing them with a numpad only was a good idea. Then I used my Model F for 6 months. It's not undoable, but it's kinda awkward and unnecessary.
The Model F is news to me. What's with the huge keys that only have a tiny actual pressing surface? Trying to avoid accidentally pressing the '0' key?
... No!
I do tons of programming, I'd die without the editing block and arrow keys. Using home/end, page up/down, and ctrl+arrow keys is way easier to navigate/edit code than using a mouse. In fact, I wont even consider any keyboard which has a non-standard configuration of these keys. They're just way too useful the way they are.
Not sure what you mean? The keys are the same size as the ones on the Model M. Unless you are reffering to the backspace, but you can adapt to that quite easily.
EDIT: Oh wait, I get it... You are looking at the wrong one. There are two major versions of the Model F, the Original PC (http://www.clickykeyboard.com/2006/jun142006/jun142006-001.jpg) version and the PC/AT (http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/5552/img3281yc2.jpg) version. I have the latter. The original PC one won't even work with a modern PC unless you build a special adaptor for it.
... No!
I do tons of programming, I'd die without the editing block and arrow keys. Using home/end, page up/down, and ctrl+arrow keys is way easier to navigate/edit code than using a mouse. In fact, I wont even consider any keyboard which has a non-standard configuration of these keys. They're just way too useful the way they are.
... No!I think shrap suggested using the numpad in cursor mode and only switch to number mode on rare occasions.
I do tons of programming, I'd die without the editing block and arrow keys. Using home/end, page up/down, and ctrl+arrow keys is way easier to navigate/edit code than using a mouse. In fact, I wont even consider any keyboard which has a non-standard configuration of these keys. They're just way too useful the way they are.
I write SQL for a living (among many other things), so I need/use the CapsLock key for that.
I thought SQL wasn't case sensitive?
Personally I'd just move the number and arrow keys over to the left hand side like on my current 'left handed' keyboard, it's a far better place than the standard position and the numpad/arrow layout itself is pretty sensible (although the Page Up/Page Down block should be flipped in the new position).
I ask, why are we getting rid of the numeric keypad and leaving the quaint arrow keys and home/end/pageup/pagedown cluster, when we can remove the latter and have a keyboard with the width of a tenkeyless (ok, it's one key wider) and still have a numeric keypad, thus getting the best of both worlds? Has any keyboard manufacturer tried this and had it fail miserably?
It isn't. Its standard practice to capitalize the SQL keywords, though.
Even when writing SQL, I still can't stand Caps Lock.
... No!
I do tons of programming, I'd die without the editing block and arrow keys. Using home/end, page up/down, and ctrl+arrow keys is way easier to navigate/edit code than using a mouse. In fact, I wont even consider any keyboard which has a non-standard configuration of these keys. They're just way too useful the way they are.
Not saying they're not useful, just arranged differently on the number pad. Kill two birds with one stone instead of duplicating those keys in two locations. My brain has already mapped to the number pad "corners" configuration.
I have a friend at work who only uses caps lock. I **** you not. Doesn't touch shift at all...
The third one had a 9" screen - the perfect netbook if it didn't weigh 28 lbs.
Didn't know that. My hands were probably numb from carrying the beast.
I think they were the boring type of capactive switch which felt like foam/foil boards as opposed to the cool ones like the Topre or Model F.
does anyone find the nipples on the f and j keys not perky enough? It's hard for me to get a comfortable touch on it. Is there a way to make them bigger or more noticeable?
type in the cold?
does anyone find the nipples on the f and j keys not perky enough? It's hard for me to get a comfortable touch on it. Is there a way to make them bigger or more noticeable?
does anyone find the nipples on the f and j keys not perky enough? It's hard for me to get a comfortable touch on it. Is there a way to make them bigger or more noticeable?
Compared to the numpad I never touch, mine have worn down over time. I've read in another thread about putting some glue or something over them to make them bigger.
The goal is to be able to get rid of them eventually anyway as you become "one with the keyboard".
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The IBM Selectric has NONE of the little nubs. Millions of admins NEVER complained about their nubs. NO dirty cracks puleez.....
Why not the Hooleon Nubile, Nubian, Nubblie, Nubbie nubs?
The goal is to be able to get rid of them eventually anyway as you become "one with the keyboard".
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The IBM Selectric has NONE of the little nubs. Millions of admins NEVER complained about their nubs. NO dirty cracks puleez.....