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Title: paypal changes
Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 07 October 2014, 18:19:01
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And last but not least, you'll see some updates to our User Agreement that go into effect November 18, 2014. If you're interested in all the details, take a look at our Policy Updates Page. Here are the highlights:

• We're increasing the time for buyers to file merchandise disputes (Item Not Received and Significantly Not as Described) from 45 days to 180 days.
• We're extending buyer protection to include item not received claims for custom made products.
• Because PayPal Seller Protection and Buyer Protection policies may vary from country to country, we're adding language to clarify which country's policy applies when a seller makes a sale to a buyer outside of the U.S.

I think the increase from 45 days to 180 is a good move.
Title: Re: paypal changes
Post by: paicrai on Tue, 07 October 2014, 18:25:28
and theyre not selling your dogs to russians for beastiality sex trade rings
Title: Re: paypal changes
Post by: Belfong on Tue, 07 October 2014, 18:37:53
Niceeeee! Thanks PayPal!
Title: Re: paypal changes
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 07 October 2014, 18:43:55
I think I like these.

I misread the first one, I definitely like these.
Title: Re: paypal changes
Post by: Sent on Tue, 07 October 2014, 18:52:22
Much needed change. 
Title: Re: paypal changes
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Tue, 07 October 2014, 18:55:59
My girlfriend mentioned this the other day.

Pretty great change.
Title: Re: paypal changes
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 07 October 2014, 19:22:26
and theyre not selling your dogs to russians for beastiality sex trade rings

that totally is not a real thing..  russians have their won dogs..
Title: Re: paypal changes
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 07 October 2014, 19:55:38
I think the increase from 45 days to 180 is a good move.

I disagree.

As someone who has sold more than I have bought, I have consequently been screwed by dishonest buyers more times than I have been helped when I had a legitimate complaint.

45 days is plenty of time. There is nothing, anywhere, that takes longer than a month and a half via any delivery service.

Title: Re: paypal changes
Post by: Belfong on Tue, 07 October 2014, 20:00:05
International shipment does take that long, especially if customs come into the picture. But you are right, if this is a Conus only transaction, then the window is just too long for people to change their mind and file a claim.
Title: Re: paypal changes
Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 07 October 2014, 20:02:58
I think the increase from 45 days to 180 is a good move.

I disagree.

As someone who has sold more than I have bought, I have consequently been screwed by dishonest buyers more times than I have been helped when I had a legitimate complaint.

45 days is plenty of time. There is nothing, anywhere, that takes longer than a month and a half via any delivery service.

This is probably meant as much for rule change number 2 than normal transactions.  But I can see someone breaking what they bought within 180 days and then saying "item significantly different than described", too.  I would be unsurprised if there wasn't an escalation chain that would start based off of date received to help prevent that from being a real nuisance, though.


International shipment does take that long, especially if customs come into the picture. But you are right, if this is a Conus only transaction, then the window is just too long for people to change their mind and file a claim.

int'l claims could already be made within 180 days.
Title: Re: paypal changes
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 07 October 2014, 21:55:41

But I can see someone breaking what they bought within 180 days and then saying "item significantly different than described", too. 


There are plenty of things that I could easily wear out in far less than 180 days of normal use.
Title: Re: paypal changes
Post by: jsquared on Tue, 07 October 2014, 22:17:26
I think the increase from 45 days to 180 is a good move.

I disagree.

As someone who has sold more than I have bought, I have consequently been screwed by dishonest buyers more times than I have been helped when I had a legitimate complaint.

45 days is plenty of time. There is nothing, anywhere, that takes longer than a month and a half via any delivery service.

Agreed, I see a lot of buyers taking advantage of this in a system where they already have the advantage in any dispute.
Title: Re: paypal changes
Post by: StylinGreymon on Tue, 07 October 2014, 23:27:34
As someone who commissions clothing and things that are made by order, and from artists  who have backlogs and such, I quite like this change.

I've never had anything sketchy happen, but considering the timescales I'm usually working with, only having 45 days to file a complaint was gonna lead to heartache eventually.