Well it looks like the same guy who was making the fake clacks, so at least it's only one source.
I think k3kc is just trolling everyone.
Yeah if there is going to be a thread to discuss this let Bro start it, let's not give that wanker any more free advertisement.
The people on reddit are ridiculous and hypocritical. I know there's a lot of people there, so it's hard to generalize, but.... When the guy makes fake CCs, they are excited and purchase them. Now he says this and they're on him about it? wtg
The people on reddit are ridiculous and hypocritical. I know there's a lot of people there, so it's hard to generalize, but.... When the guy makes fake CCs, they are excited and purchase them. Now he says this and they're on him about it? wtg
remember, vocal minority on reddit. many lurkers, prob more than GH. And im 99% sure people on GH were buying his fauxclacks tooGH has at least 5 times as many lurkers than /r/mechanicalkeyboards
Will someone just firebomb this douchebag already?
its reddit
and really? We're gonna threaten firebomb violence to someone making "fake" goods?
why not just nuke 90% of China out of existence while you're at it.
Wait, isn't what he's doing against reddit t&c? Pretty sure you can't openly admit to breaking the law, even on random sub's...
Least that's what I've been told by people re-streaming sporting events and trying to link it on reddit
Wait, isn't what he's doing against reddit t&c? Pretty sure you can't openly admit to breaking the law, even on random sub's...
Least that's what I've been told by people re-streaming sporting events and trying to link it on reddit
Wait, isn't what he's doing against reddit t&c? Pretty sure you can't openly admit to breaking the law, even on random sub's...
Least that's what I've been told by people re-streaming sporting events and trying to link it on reddit
It's borderline. That said, Bro and CC could do a DMCA takedown request (http://www.reddit.com/wiki/useragreement) to get the links to the counterfeits removed and potentially get him shadowbanned at Reddit.
And MiTo (wherever you are), you should be ashamed. GH made your Pulse set wildly successful and yet here you are, begging for counterfeits and people to rip off the work of others. Shameful.
(http://i.imgur.com/iPLu3bo.png) (http://i.imgur.com/iPLu3bo.png)
Wait, isn't what he's doing against reddit t&c? Pretty sure you can't openly admit to breaking the law, even on random sub's...
Least that's what I've been told by people re-streaming sporting events and trying to link it on reddit
It's borderline. That said, Bro and CC could do a DMCA takedown request (http://www.reddit.com/wiki/useragreement) to get the links to the counterfeits removed and potentially get him shadowbanned at Reddit.
And MiTo (wherever you are), you should be ashamed. GH made your Pulse set wildly successful and yet here you are, begging for counterfeits and people to rip off the work of others. Shameful.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/iPLu3bo.png)
Shameless self plug in hopes that we can spread awareness of why you dont buy knock-off garbage
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2j4sd9/this_is_why_you_say_no_to_cheap_vietnamese/
And MiTo (wherever you are), you should be ashamed. GH made your Pulse set wildly successful and yet here you are, begging for counterfeits and people to rip off the work of others. Shameful.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/iPLu3bo.png)
MITO YOU A ***** BRUH.
who is mito? wtf is pulse?
Shameless self plug in hopes that we can spread awareness of why you dont buy knock-off garbage
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2j4sd9/this_is_why_you_say_no_to_cheap_vietnamese/
Nice. Threw an upvote your way. They really do look like ****.
Where did Bro post those pics?
Nice. Threw an upvote your way. They really do look like ****.
Where did Bro post those pics?
Thanks! He posted them here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49563.msg1499277#msg1499277) in the Bro Caps gallery thread :thumb:
Shameless self plug in hopes that we can spread awareness of why you dont buy knock-off garbage
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Shameless self plug in hopes that we can spread awareness of why you dont buy knock-off garbage
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bu..but, that title hurts :'(
upvoted as well
I support this dude K3 (I didn't buy anything from him, actually) and I hope he comes up with his own designs soon because he has the tooling and logistics to make something decent and available to the masses.
If you want to boycott Cospar, go ahead.
If it weren't for the **** heads on reddit this guy wouldn't have much of a market to begin with. So many of them have the "I don't want to have to wait or do anything other than put my credit card number in a form to get what I want" mentality and they think that justifies buying this copycat ****.
I support this dude K3 (I didn't buy anything from him, actually) and I hope he comes up with his own designs soon because he has the tooling and logistics to make something decent and available to the masses.
If you want to boycott Cospar, go ahead.
Boycotted. If you (or anyone) supports this douchebag k3kc, I will never buy anything you design or sell.
I support this dude K3 (I didn't buy anything from him, actually) and I hope he comes up with his own designs soon because he has the tooling and logistics to make something decent and available to the masses.
If you want to boycott Cospar, go ahead.
Boycotted. If you (or anyone) supports this douchebag k3kc, I will never buy anything you design or sell.
Oh.
It seems I'm late to the party but luckly, I heard the shots being fired.
And hello nubbinator, long time mate. How's Apollo doing?
Regarding the following:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/iPLu3bo.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/BwtqCxw.png)Hack Orange, Mint Gum, Red and PuLSE Blue
About a month ago somebody (I don't actually remember clearly who it was, it's on the PuLSE thread) requested novelties keycaps matching PuLSE colorscheme. Yes, Gasmasks maybe Zombies or Mummies and guess what? Skulls.
I contacted HotKeys and requested partnership and we're looking into that, Gasmasks.
So, now, I'm moving into Zombies, Mummies and again, Skulls.
Note that the word "Skulls" may refer to the famous CCs that everybody knows, but there are thousands of skulls designs that could be used for a resin made keycap.
And I really wanted one matching PuLSE colors because PuLSE/Death/Life/Heartbeat is a theme. And we're close to Halloween and I thought it was a good idea. On October 4th, I contacted this dude K3 to see if he could do anything, and here's his answer:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/q4De87u.png)
That's why on this image, I'm joking by telling that the dude probably uses Google Trsn.Show Image(http://puu.sh/cazM8/3ed5ba8bc2.png)
And here's the rest of the thread, that our buddy nubbinator decided to hide.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3lmxEEG.png)
Do I need to say anything else?
Oh.
And for those who don't know me, yes, I designed PuLSE, yes I'm designing Cospar and yes, I support this dude K3 (I didn't buy anything from him, actually) and I hope he comes up with his own designs soon because he has the tooling and logistics to make something decent and available to the masses.
If you want to boycott Cospar, go ahead.
Don't buy it, troll on it's thread and point out mistakes with it's design.
I'm very impressed by the level of education on it's thread, very impressed.
But I'm brazilian, I'm used to it.
Peace.
EDIT: Added the PuLSE novelties image for clarification.
Oh.
It seems I'm late to the party but luckly, I heard the shots being fired.
And hello nubbinator, long time mate. How's Apollo doing?
Regarding the following:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/iPLu3bo.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/BwtqCxw.png)Hack Orange, Mint Gum, Red and PuLSE Blue
About a month ago somebody (I don't actually remember clearly who it was, it's on the PuLSE thread) requested novelties keycaps matching PuLSE colorscheme. Yes, Gasmasks maybe Zombies or Mummies and guess what? Skulls.
I contacted HotKeys and requested partnership and we're looking into that, Gasmasks.
So, now, I'm moving into Zombies, Mummies and again, Skulls.
Note that the word "Skulls" may refer to the famous CCs that everybody knows, but there are thousands of skulls designs that could be used for a resin made keycap.
And I really wanted one matching PuLSE colors because PuLSE/Death/Life/Heartbeat is a theme. And we're close to Halloween and I thought it was a good idea. On October 4th, I contacted this dude K3 to see if he could do anything, and here's his answer:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/q4De87u.png)
That's why on this image, I'm joking by telling that the dude probably uses Google Trsn.Show Image(http://puu.sh/cazM8/3ed5ba8bc2.png)
And here's the rest of the thread, that our buddy nubbinator decided to hide.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3lmxEEG.png)
Do I need to say anything else?
Oh.
And for those who don't know me, yes, I designed PuLSE, yes I'm designing Cospar and yes, I support this dude K3 (I didn't buy anything from him, actually) and I hope he comes up with his own designs soon because he has the tooling and logistics to make something decent and available to the masses.
If you want to boycott Cospar, go ahead.
Don't buy it, troll on it's thread and point out mistakes with it's design.
I'm very impressed by the level of education on it's thread, very impressed.
But I'm brazilian, I'm used to it.
Peace.
EDIT: Added the PuLSE novelties image for clarification.
I've read some dumb **** on the Internet but this goes to the top of the list.
Go back to Reddit please.
as a comnunity we should decide if we want people like mito to continue posting here. the blatant disrespect shown towards two of our members is incredible.
as a comnunity we should decide if we want people like mito to continue posting here. the blatant disrespect shown towards two of our members is incredible.
So copying is okay as long as it's not your design? You get pissed off because someone does a similar colorway, but are in favor of people blatantly ripping off others' designs and marketing them as "originals"? I think it would be funny if SP decided to tell you to **** off and didn't respect your wishes to only have 1 round of pulse.
good man, i only hope more people feel the same
as a comnunity we should decide if we want people like mito to continue posting here. the blatant disrespect shown towards two of our members is incredible.
So copying is okay as long as it's not your design? You get pissed off because someone does a similar colorway, but are in favor of people blatantly ripping off others' designs and marketing them as "originals"? I think it would be funny if SP decided to tell you to **** off and didn't respect your wishes to only have 1 round of pulse.
Dvoryke is a friend and that was a joke between us.
I sincerely don't really care about people copying "my" stuff since I don't make money with this.
CF himself is the only one who should be looking into this, not you, since it's his business and his sales won't be affected.
As a matter of fact, he should thank K3 because now more people is looking into a real CC - free marketing.
good man, i only hope more people feel the same
Hey Bunny, I thought you were dead.
But seriously, why are you wasting time here?
You've got a lot of work to do, like going to your local post office in order to conclude Penumbra shipping.
Are you by any chance mentally retarded?So copying is okay as long as it's not your design? You get pissed off because someone does a similar colorway, but are in favor of people blatantly ripping off others' designs and marketing them as "originals"? I think it would be funny if SP decided to tell you to **** off and didn't respect your wishes to only have 1 round of pulse.
Dvoryke is a friend and that was a joke between us.
I sincerely don't really care about people copying "my" stuff since I don't make money with this.
CF himself is the only one who should be looking into this, not you, since it's his business and his sales won't be affected.
As a matter of fact, he should thank K3 because now more people is looking into a real CC - free marketing.
good man, i only hope more people feel the same
Hey Bunny, I thought you were dead.
But seriously, why are you wasting time here?
You've got a lot of work to do, like going to your local post office in order to conclude Penumbra shipping.
That's taking a little bit too long.
Thanks for the image, I'll upload it asap.as a comnunity we should decide if we want people like mito to continue posting here. the blatant disrespect shown towards two of our members is incredible.
I'm not the one uneducated here.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/IVxvGBk.png)
as a comnunity we should decide if we want people like mito to continue posting here. the blatant disrespect shown towards two of our members is incredible.
CF himself is the only one who should be looking into this, not you, since it's his business and his sales won't be affected.
As a matter of fact, he should thank K3 because now more people is looking into a real CC - free marketing.
So copying is okay as long as it's not your design? You get pissed off because someone does a similar colorway, but are in favor of people blatantly ripping off others' designs and marketing them as "originals"? I think it would be funny if SP decided to tell you to **** off and didn't respect your wishes to only have 1 round of pulse.
good man, i only hope more people feel the same
Hey Bunny, I thought you were dead.
But seriously, why are you wasting time here?
You've got a lot of work to do, like going to your local post office in order to conclude Penumbra shipping.
That's taking a little bit too long.
Thanks for the image, I'll upload it asap.
I propose we form a small group of members, dedicated to protecting the membership at large, who could review the accounts of people such as the ones you describe, and vote or come to a consensus on whether they should be allowed to continue posting here as members of our community. We would need some way to bring these accounts to the attention of that group, though.
as a comnunity we should decide if we want people like mito to continue posting here. the blatant disrespect shown towards two of our members is incredible.
I propose we form a small group of members, dedicated to protecting the membership at large, who could review the accounts of people such as the ones you describe, and vote or come to a consensus on whether they should be allowed to continue posting here as members of our community. We would need some way to bring these accounts to the attention of that group, though.
So instead of 'bards' we need 'bouncers'. Let's do this.
My job on this thread was to defend myself from the nubbinator's accusations.(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130627183758/austinally/images/e/ef/Peeta_Waving.gif)
I did a little bit more than that already, so it's time for me to go.
I'm on the Cospar thread - peace guys.
as a comnunity we should decide if we want people like mito to continue posting here. the blatant disrespect shown towards two of our members is incredible.
I propose we form a small group of members, dedicated to protecting the membership at large, who could review the accounts of people such as the ones you describe, and vote or come to a consensus on whether they should be allowed to continue posting here as members of our community. We would need some way to bring these accounts to the attention of that group, though.
So instead of 'bards' we need 'bouncers'. Let's do this.
My job on this thread was to defend myself from the nubbinator's accusations.
I did a little bit more than that already, so it's time for me to go.
I'm on the Cospar thread - peace guys.
as a comnunity we should decide if we want people like mito to continue posting here. the blatant disrespect shown towards two of our members is incredible.
I propose we form a small group of members, dedicated to protecting the membership at large, who could review the accounts of people such as the ones you describe, and vote or come to a consensus on whether they should be allowed to continue posting here as members of our community. We would need some way to bring these accounts to the attention of that group, though.
as a comnunity we should decide if we want people like mito to continue posting here. the blatant disrespect shown towards two of our members is incredible.
I propose we form a small group of members, dedicated to protecting the membership at large, who could review the accounts of people such as the ones you describe, and vote or come to a consensus on whether they should be allowed to continue posting here as members of our community. We would need some way to bring these accounts to the attention of that group, though.
even though im not a fan of teams or groups or any of that mess, sure. as long as mkawa has no say in it or else it will be worthless.
as a comnunity we should decide if we want people like mito to continue posting here. the blatant disrespect shown towards two of our members is incredible.
I propose we form a small group of members, dedicated to protecting the membership at large, who could review the accounts of people such as the ones you describe, and vote or come to a consensus on whether they should be allowed to continue posting here as members of our community. We would need some way to bring these accounts to the attention of that group, though.
even though im not a fan of teams or groups or any of that mess, sure. as long as mkawa has no say in it or else it will be worthless.
as a comnunity we should decide if we want people like mito to continue posting here. the blatant disrespect shown towards two of our members is incredible.
I propose we form a small group of members, dedicated to protecting the membership at large, who could review the accounts of people such as the ones you describe, and vote or come to a consensus on whether they should be allowed to continue posting here as members of our community. We would need some way to bring these accounts to the attention of that group, though.
even though im not a fan of teams or groups or any of that mess, sure. as long as mkawa has no say in it or else it will be worthless.
Are you serious? That's a ****ing horrible idea. More moderation is not the answer. I mean good god, this is like something Bill O Riley would propose if he were a member here.
I'm obviously nobody here on GH, or anywhere for that matter, so i never spoke up.
MiTo, i've seen you supporting this guy in making fake CCs and that's not right.
You're not buying them, sure, but that doesnt mean you're any better.
I was interested in the Pulse set but i lost interest after i noticed you were supporting people in purchasing the fakes. Not to mention misinformation (at least i think) stating that you tipped the GB in 2 days when i saw a week later it hadnt. But whatever. I have bad memory.
But i forgot you wanted a fake one, or at least showed you lack respect for CC or even BroCaps.
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You always talk all the BS about "community" this, "community" that "our community". **** you. You're insulting people based off their writing and telling them they have Alzheimer, you support fake CCs and you don't actually give two ****s about anyone and just want someone to think you're being useful.
Like BunnyLake said, you just let everyone do the work for you on the Pulse set and you try and take all the credit, when you had almost absolutely no idea what you were even doing and had to have a never ending discussion in the IC thread and even the GB thread. You didnt even finalize any of the details and were still changing things when people were ordering. What are you in charge of exactly? You chose the colors, make a few pictures and boom, you should get all the credit? If anyone, jdcarpe should get credit since he seemed to always be there to help and hold your hand through it all.
I'm a complete idiot and cant retain any information I read, but even I can see that you're full of ****.
Nobody has to try and twist what you say or hide information to try and make you look like the bad guy. You do it to yourself whenever you open your mouth.
Dont think that anybody is with you. Stop saying people are joining you and start saying "us" when people dont give two ****s about you and just want a keyset they think it's nice. This is in fact a community, but by your actions, it doesnt seem like you want to be a part of it.
i dont like it. i know how it will end. i know who will be in control and i know there will be no community feedback.as a comnunity we should decide if we want people like mito to continue posting here. the blatant disrespect shown towards two of our members is incredible.
I propose we form a small group of members, dedicated to protecting the membership at large, who could review the accounts of people such as the ones you describe, and vote or come to a consensus on whether they should be allowed to continue posting here as members of our community. We would need some way to bring these accounts to the attention of that group, though.
even though im not a fan of teams or groups or any of that mess, sure. as long as mkawa has no say in it or else it will be worthless.
Are you serious? That's a ****ing horrible idea. More moderation is not the answer. I mean good god, this is like something Bill O Riley would propose if he were a member here.
Selling rune scimitar 30k
I'm obviously nobody here on GH, or anywhere for that matter, so i never spoke up.
MiTo, i've seen you supporting this guy in making fake CCs and that's not right.
You're not buying them, sure, but that doesnt mean you're any better.
I was interested in the Pulse set but i lost interest after i noticed you were supporting people in purchasing the fakes. Not to mention misinformation (at least i think) stating that you tipped the GB in 2 days when i saw a week later it hadnt. But whatever. I have bad memory.
But i forgot you wanted a fake one, or at least showed you lack respect for CC or even BroCaps.
(Attachment Link)
You always talk all the BS about "community" this, "community" that "our community". **** you. You're insulting people based off their writing and telling them they have Alzheimer, you support fake CCs and you don't actually give two ****s about anyone and just want someone to think you're being useful.
Like BunnyLake said, you just let everyone do the work for you on the Pulse set and you try and take all the credit, when you had almost absolutely no idea what you were even doing and had to have a never ending discussion in the IC thread and even the GB thread. You didnt even finalize any of the details and were still changing things when people were ordering. What are you in charge of exactly? You chose the colors, make a few pictures and boom, you should get all the credit? If anyone, jdcarpe should get credit since he seemed to always be there to help and hold your hand through it all.
I'm a complete idiot and cant retain any information I read, but even I can see that you're full of ****.
Nobody has to try and twist what you say or hide information to try and make you look like the bad guy. You do it to yourself whenever you open your mouth.
Dont think that anybody is with you. Stop saying people are joining you and start saying "us" when people dont give two ****s about you and just want a keyset they think it's nice. This is in fact a community, but by your actions, it doesnt seem like you want to be a part of it.
Hey bro, yeah, I never heard of you but that doesn't really matters.
Apparently I have a stalker and a fan that loves to see what I'm bringing to /r/MK.
That's awesome! You can continue if you want, bring the "downvote train" right?
That Alzheimer one was another joke, mate. But seriously I don't want to explain because it's going to be way too laborious.
If you lost interest on PuLSE, well, that's lame. Maybe next time.
Also, the GB tipped in 72 hours which is equal to three days but apparently you can't do basic math.
Yes I wanted a fake one, for $25 it's a steal. But I didn't think it was a good idea ordering one because you know, it's fake and it looks kinda bad.
Ordering one would be way too much.
About Bun.. (nevermind, I'm not wasting my time anymore with this crap), but I gave credit to JD on the PuLSE thread and personally put his name on the special "thank you" list. He was a huge part of that GB, with advice.
I did all the design and submitted it to PMK so yes, it was my work.
Nobody else's.
You want to criticize PuLSE GB? Because I had to adjust a few things (added deep dish keys midway) for cruise control?
Go ahead mate. It still sold 1700+ goods (yes, blanks accounted) so you can't bring it down, many people loved it.
I gotta go, too busy.
Selling rune scimitar 30k
I think the halarious part is that k3 has to photoshop/alter the photos of the caps he stole. We saw the photos taken by users who got fakes k3, they aint dat clean jabroni. Not only are you making $$$ off someone else designs you cant even cast a clean cap :))
Selling rune scimitar 30kGot a d long?
[attach=1]blah blah blahHey bro, yeah, I never heard of you but that doesn't really matters.
I'll do you a ddp++ for you?Selling rune scimitar 30kGot a d long?
Wow, I go help my kid with his homework and come back and the forums are on fire!
I have nothing to add, really. Don't like the fakers and hope they get what's coming to them.
What is the most constructive way for us to support CF and Bro, really? I mean the flaming is probably fun, but I'm not sure it really does much. Is there some sort of legal witness we can file against buyers of fake goods? Report them to customs bureau or something?
This k3kc guy or whatever is even worse than pacifist.
At least he didn't make exact clones of others' work
I though r/Mk was bad but I didn't think it was actually something this shameful. Never have I sewn an enthusiast community that supported counterfeit products of their own bros' work
This k3kc guy or whatever is even worse than pacifist.
At least he didn't make exact clones of others' work
I though r/Mk was bad but I didn't think it was actually something this shameful. Never have I sewn an enthusiast community that supported counterfeit products of their own bros' work
he didn't just make a fake
he actually said he was the original and clackfactory copied him
like that seriously scares me that someone that delusional isn't in a mental hospital...but maybe a good posterboy for better mental health funding?
Wow, I go help my kid with his homework and come back and the forums are on fire!
I have nothing to add, really. Don't like the fakers and hope they get what's coming to them.
What is the most constructive way for us to support CF and Bro, really? I mean the flaming is probably fun, but I'm not sure it really does much. Is there some sort of legal witness we can file against buyers of fake goods? Report them to customs bureau or something?
he didn't just make a fake
he actually said he was the original and clackfactory copied him
like that seriously scares me that someone that delusional isn't in a mental hospital...but maybe a good posterboy for better mental health funding?
I don't think that's what he said. I think he was saying that his caps were marked with his mark, and in that way, they can't be confused with other counterfeits, or the original designs. In saying so, he's saying he's not trying to make direct counterfeits and fool people into thinking that they're the true item, but that he's making caps that are blatantly counterfeit and that can be seen as much by his mark.
Not that it makes any difference either way.
he didn't just make a fake
he actually said he was the original and clackfactory copied him
like that seriously scares me that someone that delusional isn't in a mental hospital...but maybe a good posterboy for better mental health funding?
I don't think that's what he said. I think he was saying that his caps were marked with his mark, and in that way, they can't be confused with other counterfeits, or the original designs. In saying so, he's saying he's not trying to make direct counterfeits and fool people into thinking that they're the true item, but that he's making caps that are blatantly counterfeit and that can be seen as much by his mark.
Not that it makes any difference either way.
he didn't just make a fake
he actually said he was the original and clackfactory copied him
like that seriously scares me that someone that delusional isn't in a mental hospital...but maybe a good posterboy for better mental health funding?
I don't think that's what he said. I think he was saying that his caps were marked with his mark, and in that way, they can't be confused with other counterfeits, or the original designs. In saying so, he's saying he's not trying to make direct counterfeits and fool people into thinking that they're the true item, but that he's making caps that are blatantly counterfeit and that can be seen as much by his mark.
Not that it makes any difference either way.
Moose is right
he's never said he wasn't making fakes, he's just convinced his are the best
which they're not
Wow, I go help my kid with his homework and come back and the forums are on fire!
I have nothing to add, really. Don't like the fakers and hope they get what's coming to them.
What is the most constructive way for us to support CF and Bro, really? I mean the flaming is probably fun, but I'm not sure it really does much. Is there some sort of legal witness we can file against buyers of fake goods? Report them to customs bureau or something?
Bro put up a thread where he said he was pursuing the legal angle and for us not to do anything rash.
Wow, I go help my kid with his homework and come back and the forums are on fire!
I have nothing to add, really. Don't like the fakers and hope they get what's coming to them.
What is the most constructive way for us to support CF and Bro, really? I mean the flaming is probably fun, but I'm not sure it really does much. Is there some sort of legal witness we can file against buyers of fake goods? Report them to customs bureau or something?
Bro put up a thread where he said he was pursuing the legal angle and for us not to do anything rash.
Okay. Let's handle this like adults. Everyone keep the clippings from your toenails. Then we will put them in the beds of all the folks who support the crappity crap fakery.
After seeingmythe cheap ripoff brobot, you guys have the Brocap’s GA immediately ;) I think you guys own me oneCompetitionwindow-lickers make customers fall in love
https://ctrlalt.io/bro-caps/bunny-bro-loves-you (https://ctrlalt.io/bro-caps/bunny-bro-loves-you)
After seeing my brobot, you guys have the Brocap’s GA immediately ;) I think you guys own me one
Competition make customers fall in love
https://ctrlalt.io/bro-caps/bunny-bro-loves-you
After seeingmythe cheap ripoff brobot, you guys have the Brocap’s GA immediately ;) I think you guys own me one
Competition make customers fall in love
https://ctrlalt.io/bro-caps/bunny-bro-loves-you (https://ctrlalt.io/bro-caps/bunny-bro-loves-you)
You call the garbage you produce 'competition'? LOL
http://imgur.com/a/fvWj5 (http://imgur.com/a/fvWj5)
holy **** keycaps look like they're covered in chicken grease
After seeing my brobot, you guys have the Brocap’s GA immediately ;) I think you guys own me one
Competition make customers fall in love
https://ctrlalt.io/bro-caps/bunny-bro-loves-you
holy **** keycaps look like they're covered in chicken grease
KFCkeycaps.com
homie sprays them ****s with soul glo before he ships them outShow Image(http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Soul-Glo.jpg)
homie sprays them ****s with soul glo before he ships them outShow Image(http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Soul-Glo.jpg)
Wow, I go help my kid with his homework and come back and the forums are on fire!
I have nothing to add, really. Don't like the fakers and hope they get what's coming to them.
What is the most constructive way for us to support CF and Bro, really? I mean the flaming is probably fun, but I'm not sure it really does much. Is there some sort of legal witness we can file against buyers of fake goods? Report them to customs bureau or something?
Bro put up a thread where he said he was pursuing the legal angle and for us not to do anything rash.
Okay. Let's handle this like adults. Everyone keep the clippings from your toenails. Then we will put them in the beds of all the folks who support the crappity crap fakery.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=64073.0
Linking for reference/sharing.
After seeingmythe cheap ripoff brobot, you guys have the Brocap’s GA immediately ;) I think you guys own me oneCompetitionwindow-lickers make customers fall in love
https://ctrlalt.io/bro-caps/bunny-bro-loves-you (https://ctrlalt.io/bro-caps/bunny-bro-loves-you)
You call the garbage you produce 'competition'? LOL
http://imgur.com/a/fvWj5 (http://imgur.com/a/fvWj5)
I neither support fake bb nor people who sell their genuine bb at premium which is 2 or 3 times of the original price
and that's why I never own one
#fate
After seeing my brobot, you guys have the Brocap’s GA immediately ;) I think you guys own me one
Competition make customers fall in love
https://ctrlalt.io/bro-caps/bunny-bro-loves-you
Wow. Reading through that Cospar thread and then this one is a great introduction to the sort of community this place is. Real friendly. Good thing I'm new and have zero history.
I really do feel like everyone involved in this is acting like a 5 year old. Want to boycott someone because you believe they support counterfeiting, fine. Feel you're being unfairly targeted and it's being misunderstood that you only said that you would support original designs? Fine. But the personal attacks? Sheeesh. Banning everyone who buys Cospar from ever buying from your store again? Aside from being technically impossible - it's childish.
I plan to buy Cospar because I like it. For no other reason. Mito - Grow up. Admit that what you said wasn't appropriate and try apologizing.
If ctrlalt.io has a group buy I want in on, I'll join. For no other reason that I like what they're selling. (I, for one, would love a RainDrop keyset). Trying to ban me from your store if I buy Cospar is a terrible way to treat your potential customers. Grow up and realize that attempting to ban someone like this is a fools errand.
I say all this with the realization that no-one involved will like me much after this. Meh. Hopefully I can go back to ignoring all of this drivel.
Enjoy your weekend.
Trying to ban me from your store if I buy Cospar is a terrible way to treat your potential customers.
Reading through that Cospar thread and then this one is a great introduction to the sort of community this place isyou chose the wrong topics for a first impression. this community is full of fantastic people who have been extremely patient to a noob like myself. i'm aware that lots of drama have occurred over the years (they banned DangWong who created one of the most awesome blogs ever), but i don't concern myself with all the background power play and have no reason to.
But the personal attacks? Sheeesh.yeah the attacks were unnecessary, but i figure it's a "you punch my bros i punch back" kind of thing. i would have preferred seeing them take the moral high ground instead of stooping to MiTo's level (a deplorable individual, anyone who has followed his previous GB should be able to see this), but it's understandable
Trying to ban me from your store if I buy Cospar is a terrible way to treat your potential customers. Grow up and realize that attempting to ban someone like this is a fools errand.speaking as someone who has only attempted to make a purchase from the CtrlAlt store once, it's easily possible for them to do this, even if it requires unwarranted effort. and since we're dealing with handmade artisan caps where the demand way exceeds the supply, i'd say the ability to order a cap is a privilege, not a right. this privilege can easily be taken away from you if they desire
Trying to ban me from your store if I buy Cospar is a terrible way to treat your potential customers. Grow up and realize that attempting to ban someone like this is a fools errand.speaking as someone who has only attempted to make a purchase from the CtrlAlt store once, it's easily possible for them to do this, even if it requires unwarranted effort. and since we're dealing with handmade artisan caps where the demand way exceeds the supply, i'd say the ability to order a cap is a privilege, not a right. this privilege can easily be taken away from you if they desire
Trying to ban me from your store if I buy Cospar is a terrible way to treat your potential customers.
This seems to be a common reaction to hearing that bit of information. Since you may not know, I will just inform you that ctrlalt.io does not operate as a traditional store, with profits. They operate in a very community-minded fashion, often losing personal money to ensure that the keysets reach us in a timely manner. So losing "business" like this really doesn't hurt anyone, except those of you who choose to get banned.
Just thought you might not know that and it would be valuable information.
Those of you who choose to get bannedI didn't choose to get banned. I chose to purchase Cospar before all of this happened. ctrlalt.io chose to ban me because I wanted a particular keyset. Not the other way around. It's unclear to me whether they will follow through with their attempted ban, but if they do I will likely respect it.
I find very funny that some of you refer to me as a "deplorable individual", "ignorant" and other pejorative words without ever talking to me before.
Seriously, most of you don't even know me. You're just hopping on the hate train because some of your "friends" severely disliked my opinion about this K3 dude.
You're taking the pain from individuals that directly exposed, ridiculed and offended me me, on this forum. And if people disrespect me, I'll disrespect them too, simple as that. But that's ok, you can think and support whatever you want.
I already offered help and tried to apologize many times to users that I directly have a problem with.
BunnyLake (came on a high horse on PuLSE's IC demanding that molds should be under somebody's name, even though the legends weren't even decided yet - he also suggested people to boycott PuLSE on his first post ever written to me, it's on the bottom of page 4 of PuLSE's IC thread) never answered and nubbinator (don't know when the hate started, but he asked for help with mockups and I offered it, he never answered, not even my apologizes).
Boycotting Cospar is also a stupid idea, since you're basically boycotting drawings that I submitted to PMK.
They can still sell it if they want, and I won't lose anything if it eventually fails - which is something very unlikely to happen.
Banning people from participating on GBs just because you hate me, Ctrl.Alt?
Go for it, but that won't work.
Also, if anyone wants to apologize for all this stupidity, I'm wide open to it.
I just want to design and share ideas, as I love mechs as all of you do.
Also, if anyone wants to apologize for all this stupidity, I'm wide open to it.
I just want to design and share ideas, as I love mechs as all of you do.
Also, if anyone wants to apologize for all this stupidity, I'm wide open to it.
I just want to design and share ideas, as I love mechs as all of you do.
Were you going to apologize for your disgusting behavior and language over at reddit?
I generally just look at my watched threads and the making stuff section because that is where my interests lie and I don't have the time to browse the rest of the forum or the money to browse the market sections, however I had some time in the last week so I decided to explore the happening in the other sections and it made me go back into my hole. I'm not gonna comment on the fake clacks in particular or ongoing arguments between the various members, however it does hurt to see the direction in which things are going in this community, a community which I believe is one of the most friendly and loving on the internet. Reading lakin.wecker's comment hurt me because of what he perceived of this community on his fairly new visit, however certainly how I would have seen the community, if I came in at such a time, lucky for me I have seen the other side of this forum, the more prominent, positive side.
I'm sure BunnyLake knows I love him, and JDCarpe that I respect him immensely, but that doesn't mean I hate MiTo or even K3KC. I always believe no one is bad, just misunderstood or misguided. Thus I just have the following advice for our new members, hopefully they'll understand what I am trying to say and take it in a positive stride.
MiTo, you have an eye for design and creating good looking sets and and even better talent to sell your goods, I know you aren't selling them on PMK as such, but I mean figuratively, you have good marketing skills. Use them wisely and stick to what you do best. I understand what you meant _initially_ when you said you support K3KC, I really do, and I address this below as well, but when people misunderstood your comments, you took things personally and to your ego. Please calm down and reflect on what you did and where your strengths lie, in making awesome colorways. Understand what BunnyLake and JDCarpe have offered to this community, they have helped so many new members, helped out in numerous GBs, which weren't even organised by themselves. JDCarpe has been always approachable by all, specially when designing new keyboards and beginning their keyboard journey. All this without asking anything in return, I know neither are you.
K3KC, you have the time, logistics and tools to create keycaps, why not put those to good use and create your own designs and art. This community is wide and varied, almost anything you envision and create will find takers as there are so many people with different tastes. Let's say, you come to a creative-block or just can't think of ideas for new caps, turn to the community, find what people would like, or make your service available to those that don't have the setup to create their own keycaps but have ideas. The number of keyboard enthusiasts are so few in this world that any financial retun on keycaps or any keyboard related accessory is hardly enough return for most people's sustenance. At the end of the day we are all in it for our love of keyboards and related stuff. Put them skills and assets to good use. It's not too late to apologise and start over, and trust me this community is so friendly and welcoming, they will accept you and love you more than you can imagine.
Trying to ban me from your store if I buy Cospar is a terrible way to treat your potential customers.
This seems to be a common reaction to hearing that bit of information. Since you may not know, I will just inform you that ctrlalt.io does not operate as a traditional store, with profits. They operate in a very community-minded fashion, often losing personal money to ensure that the keysets reach us in a timely manner. So losing "business" like this really doesn't hurt anyone, except those of you who choose to get banned.
Also, if anyone wants to apologize for all this stupidity, I'm wide open to it.
I just want to design and share ideas, as I love mechs as all of you do.
Were you going to apologize for your disgusting behavior and language over at reddit?
I already have up on that individual since I can't even comprehend what he writes most of the time. I'm not joking, never before have I read comments on the Internet that are so hard to understand like his ones. I don't know if it is that lack of punctuation or the word he uses, but seriously it's always hard for me to read. I tried to apologize to him a couple of months ago and he answered that he was "too busy to think of a proper answer".
Also, he offended me on GeekHack and I replied on Reddit that's all.
Also, if anyone wants to apologize for all this stupidity, I'm wide open to it.
I just want to design and share ideas, as I love mechs as all of you do.
Were you going to apologize for your disgusting behavior and language over at reddit?
I already have up on that individual since I can't even comprehend what he writes most of the time. I'm not joking, never before have I read comments on the Internet that are so hard to understand like his ones. I don't know if it is that lack of punctuation or the word he uses, but seriously it's always hard for me to read. I tried to apologize to him a couple of months ago and he answered that he was "too busy to think of a proper answer".
Also, he offended me on GeekHack and I replied on Reddit that's all.
you are so full of ****, everything that comes out of your mouth is lies or blowing smoke up your own arse, i dont think yo ucan see whats happening, shift your inflated pompous ego to one side, and realise what you are doing to yourself
this all started because i tried to help you, you started threatening and **** talking me, then took all of my advice anyway but from jd and gave him a special thanks, then you turn on him
you have zero ethics/morals or remorse, the only time you show any sign of sincerity about your mistakes and actions is when its in your best interest to do so
you run around the internet bullying me, calling me names, making me out to be the bad guy, but i think if you take a look around here, and the people sticking up for me, there would be a reason for that
you say me banning people will do nothing, ive had tons of pms showing me support, and congratulating me for taking a stand against you, ive even had people cancel their pulse orders to show support
this could have all been very different if you either took the help that was offered to you or graciously declined
your trouble is, you think you are this great social manipulator, rallying people around and making people do all the work for you, the trouble is you cant keep it up, your a sad pathetic little man way out of his depth and struggling to keep control, lashing out at me because you odnt know what else to do
me and many others are starting a petition to have you removed from pmk, i dont think they will want someone saying stuff like this to people they work withShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/gf7SzYA.jpg)
saying things like this to large customers of theirsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/7n1cZWG.jpg)
and being generally rude to their customers
BunnyLake (came on a high horse on PuLSE's IC demanding that molds should be under somebody's name, even though the legends weren't even decided yet - he also suggested people to boycott PuLSE on his first post ever written to me, it's on the bottom of page 4 of PuLSE's IC thread)
Also, if anyone wants to apologize for all this stupidity, I'm wide open to it.
I just want to design and share ideas, as I love mechs as all of you do.
Were you going to apologize for your disgusting behavior and language over at reddit?
I already have up on that individual since I can't even comprehend what he writes most of the time. I'm not joking, never before have I read comments on the Internet that are so hard to understand like his ones. I don't know if it is that lack of punctuation or the word he uses, but seriously it's always hard for me to read. I tried to apologize to him a couple of months ago and he answered that he was "too busy to think of a proper answer".
Also, he offended me on GeekHack and I replied on Reddit that's all.
you are so full of ****, everything that comes out of your mouth is lies or blowing smoke up your own arse, i dont think yo ucan see whats happening, shift your inflated pompous ego to one side, and realise what you are doing to yourself
this all started because i tried to help you, you started threatening and **** talking me, then took all of my advice anyway but from jd and gave him a special thanks, then you turn on him
you have zero ethics/morals or remorse, the only time you show any sign of sincerity about your mistakes and actions is when its in your best interest to do so
you run around the internet bullying me, calling me names, making me out to be the bad guy, but i think if you take a look around here, and the people sticking up for me, there would be a reason for that
you say me banning people will do nothing, ive had tons of pms showing me support, and congratulating me for taking a stand against you, ive even had people cancel their pulse orders to show support
this could have all been very different if you either took the help that was offered to you or graciously declined
your trouble is, you think you are this great social manipulator, rallying people around and making people do all the work for you, the trouble is you cant keep it up, your a sad pathetic little man way out of his depth and struggling to keep control, lashing out at me because you odnt know what else to do
me and many others are starting a petition to have you removed from pmk, i dont think they will want someone saying stuff like this to people they work withShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/gf7SzYA.jpg)
saying things like this to large customers of theirsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/7n1cZWG.jpg)
and being generally rude to their customers
Alright, personal attacks are done on all threads. Enough. You're grown ass men. Walk away from the keyboard, or handle it privately.
Alright, personal attacks are done on all threads. Enough. You're grown ass men. Walk away from the keyboard, or handle it privately.
Why?
People like me would then miss out and not be able to make informed opinions and decisions about people running stores/GB's.
Having this open and in public allows users (like me) to make informed decisions and choices about where my money (and thus support) goes. If this was handled behind closed doors I wouldn't know anything about any of this and be potentially sending money and supporting people I would (have I known all the facts) never want anything to do with.
I generally just look at my watched threads and the making stuff section because that is where my interests lie and I don't have the time to browse the rest of the forum or the money to browse the market sections, however I had some time in the last week so I decided to explore the happening in the other sections and it made me go back into my hole. I'm not gonna comment on the fake clacks in particular or ongoing arguments between the various members, however it does hurt to see the direction in which things are going in this community, a community which I believe is one of the most friendly and loving on the internet. Reading lakin.wecker's comment hurt me because of what he perceived of this community on his fairly new visit, however certainly how I would have seen the community, if I came in at such a time, lucky for me I have seen the other side of this forum, the more prominent, positive side.
I'm sure BunnyLake knows I love him, and JDCarpe that I respect him immensely, but that doesn't mean I hate MiTo or even K3KC. I always believe no one is bad, just misunderstood or misguided. Thus I just have the following advice for our new members, hopefully they'll understand what I am trying to say and take it in a positive stride.
MiTo, you have an eye for design and creating good looking sets and and even better talent to sell your goods, I know you aren't selling them on PMK as such, but I mean figuratively, you have good marketing skills. Use them wisely and stick to what you do best. I understand what you meant _initially_ when you said you support K3KC, I really do, and I address this below as well, but when people misunderstood your comments, you took things personally and to your ego. Please calm down and reflect on what you did and where your strengths lie, in making awesome colorways. Understand what BunnyLake and JDCarpe have offered to this community, they have helped so many new members, helped out in numerous GBs, which weren't even organised by themselves. JDCarpe has been always approachable by all, specially when designing new keyboards and beginning their keyboard journey. All this without asking anything in return, I know neither are you.
K3KC, you have the time, logistics and tools to create keycaps, why not put those to good use and create your own designs and art. This community is wide and varied, almost anything you envision and create will find takers as there are so many people with different tastes. Let's say, you come to a creative-block or just can't think of ideas for new caps, turn to the community, find what people would like, or make your service available to those that don't have the setup to create their own keycaps but have ideas. The number of keyboard enthusiasts are so few in this world that any financial retun on keycaps or any keyboard related accessory is hardly enough return for most people's sustenance. At the end of the day we are all in it for our love of keyboards and related stuff. Put them skills and assets to good use. It's not too late to apologise and start over, and trust me this community is so friendly and welcoming, they will accept you and love you more than you can imagine.
One of the few posts here that is chill for once.
I think everyone needs to stand back for a moment and get a perspective on this from hindsight. That might douse the flames a bit.
Also, if anyone wants to apologize for all this stupidity, I'm wide open to it.
I just want to design and share ideas, as I love mechs as all of you do.
Were you going to apologize for your disgusting behavior and language over at reddit?
I already have up on that individual since I can't even comprehend what he writes most of the time. I'm not joking, never before have I read comments on the Internet that are so hard to understand like his ones. I don't know if it is that lack of punctuation or the word he uses, but seriously it's always hard for me to read. I tried to apologize to him a couple of months ago and he answered that he was "too busy to think of a proper answer".
Also, he offended me on GeekHack and I replied on Reddit that's all.
you are so full of ****, everything that comes out of your mouth is lies or blowing smoke up your own arse, i dont think yo ucan see whats happening, shift your inflated pompous ego to one side, and realise what you are doing to yourself
this all started because i tried to help you, you started threatening and **** talking me, then took all of my advice anyway but from jd and gave him a special thanks, then you turn on him
you have zero ethics/morals or remorse, the only time you show any sign of sincerity about your mistakes and actions is when its in your best interest to do so
you run around the internet bullying me, calling me names, making me out to be the bad guy, but i think if you take a look around here, and the people sticking up for me, there would be a reason for that
you say me banning people will do nothing, ive had tons of pms showing me support, and congratulating me for taking a stand against you, ive even had people cancel their pulse orders to show support
this could have all been very different if you either took the help that was offered to you or graciously declined
your trouble is, you think you are this great social manipulator, rallying people around and making people do all the work for you, the trouble is you cant keep it up, your a sad pathetic little man way out of his depth and struggling to keep control, lashing out at me because you odnt know what else to do
me and many others are starting a petition to have you removed from pmk, i dont think they will want someone saying stuff like this to people they work withShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/gf7SzYA.jpg)
saying things like this to large customers of theirsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/7n1cZWG.jpg)
and being generally rude to their customers
Alright, personal attacks are done on all threads. Enough. You're grown ass men. Walk away from the keyboard, or handle it privately.
Why?
People like me would then miss out and not be able to make informed opinions and decisions about people running stores/GB's.
Having this open and in public allows users (like me) to make informed decisions and choices about where my money (and thus support) goes. If this was handled behind closed doors I wouldn't know anything about any of this and be potentially sending money and supporting people I would (have I known all the facts) never want anything to do with.
When a fight like this happens in real life among my friends, I shriek like a little girl while stomping my feet, and everyone shuts up, takes a step back, reflects; apologies all around and a fun night follows. Wish it were that simple online.
Also, if anyone wants to apologize for all this stupidity, I'm wide open to it.
I just want to design and share ideas, as I love mechs as all of you do.
Were you going to apologize for your disgusting behavior and language over at reddit?
I already have up on that individual since I can't even comprehend what he writes most of the time. I'm not joking, never before have I read comments on the Internet that are so hard to understand like his ones. I don't know if it is that lack of punctuation or the word he uses, but seriously it's always hard for me to read. I tried to apologize to him a couple of months ago and he answered that he was "too busy to think of a proper answer".
Also, he offended me on GeekHack and I replied on Reddit that's all.
you are so full of ****, everything that comes out of your mouth is lies or blowing smoke up your own arse, i dont think yo ucan see whats happening, shift your inflated pompous ego to one side, and realise what you are doing to yourself
this all started because i tried to help you, you started threatening and **** talking me, then took all of my advice anyway but from jd and gave him a special thanks, then you turn on him
you have zero ethics/morals or remorse, the only time you show any sign of sincerity about your mistakes and actions is when its in your best interest to do so
you run around the internet bullying me, calling me names, making me out to be the bad guy, but i think if you take a look around here, and the people sticking up for me, there would be a reason for that
you say me banning people will do nothing, ive had tons of pms showing me support, and congratulating me for taking a stand against you, ive even had people cancel their pulse orders to show support
this could have all been very different if you either took the help that was offered to you or graciously declined
your trouble is, you think you are this great social manipulator, rallying people around and making people do all the work for you, the trouble is you cant keep it up, your a sad pathetic little man way out of his depth and struggling to keep control, lashing out at me because you odnt know what else to do
me and many others are starting a petition to have you removed from pmk, i dont think they will want someone saying stuff like this to people they work withShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/gf7SzYA.jpg)
saying things like this to large customers of theirsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/7n1cZWG.jpg)
and being generally rude to their customers
Alright, personal attacks are done on all threads. Enough. You're grown ass men. Walk away from the keyboard, or handle it privately.
Why?
People like me would then miss out and not be able to make informed opinions and decisions about people running stores/GB's.
Having this open and in public allows users (like me) to make informed decisions and choices about where my money (and thus support) goes. If this was handled behind closed doors I wouldn't know anything about any of this and be potentially sending money and supporting people I would (have I known all the facts) never want anything to do with.
It's not like the information isn't out there. This has just gone on long enough. Every single day, it's the same two people having it out. It's a derailment from the topic at hand, is against ToS, and does not have a place here. Making informed decisions on where to put your money is fine, and in this case, you have more than enough evidence to choose what you do for yourself, thus why I'm ending it now.
I'll never understand how losing money (or time, sanity, etc.) makes an organization heroic, or in some way 'better' than one that operates at a profit.i think what he's saying is that, since CtrlAlt doesn't share the same traditional philosophies regarding profits, they also have different standards concerning how they value their customers. and ultimately, the customer has more to lose by missing out on sales than the store itself. not that they're martyrs for operating at a loss
and giving me a warning without messaging me or giving me any other explanation, i had totally stopped, as requested by a mod i was speaking to about the situation
mito comes back on and starts again, i did what the mod told me, which was to message them and report the post, mito continued, so i replied to his post
so at the very least, i would like an explanation sent to me about why im having moderation action against me
@exitfire
I don't really agree with your stance, but it's pointless to argue/debate with a mod about rules.
I hope when this is shaken out that someone can post the fallout as tracking down all this stuff on Reddit and other sites etc isn't always the easiest thing. And it would be nice to have it archived on here as Mito's GB was run from here (I assume anyway).
@exitfire
I don't really agree with your stance, but it's pointless to argue/debate with a mod about rules.
I hope when this is shaken out that someone can post the fallout as tracking down all this stuff on Reddit and other sites etc isn't always the easiest thing. And it would be nice to have it archived on here as Mito's GB was run from here (I assume anyway).
As I said, there are plenty of examples on here of the way he has acted. You can either look in his post history here, or look in threads for other buys that he has run/had a part in. We're not removing any material at all. It's all still there in plain sight.
@exitfire
I don't really agree with your stance, but it's pointless to argue/debate with a mod about rules.
I hope when this is shaken out that someone can post the fallout as tracking down all this stuff on Reddit and other sites etc isn't always the easiest thing. And it would be nice to have it archived on here as Mito's GB was run from here (I assume anyway).
Also, if anyone wants to apologize for all this stupidity, I'm wide open to it.
I just want to design and share ideas, as I love mechs as all of you do.
Were you going to apologize for your disgusting behavior and language over at reddit?
I already have up on that individual since I can't even comprehend what he writes most of the time. I'm not joking, never before have I read comments on the Internet that are so hard to understand like his ones. I don't know if it is that lack of punctuation or the word he uses, but seriously it's always hard for me to read. I tried to apologize to him a couple of months ago and he answered that he was "too busy to think of a proper answer".
Also, he offended me on GeekHack and I replied on Reddit that's all.
you are so full of ****, everything that comes out of your mouth is lies or blowing smoke up your own arse, i dont think yo ucan see whats happening, shift your inflated pompous ego to one side, and realise what you are doing to yourself
this all started because i tried to help you, you started threatening and **** talking me, then took all of my advice anyway but from jd and gave him a special thanks, then you turn on him
you have zero ethics/morals or remorse, the only time you show any sign of sincerity about your mistakes and actions is when its in your best interest to do so
you run around the internet bullying me, calling me names, making me out to be the bad guy, but i think if you take a look around here, and the people sticking up for me, there would be a reason for that
you say me banning people will do nothing, ive had tons of pms showing me support, and congratulating me for taking a stand against you, ive even had people cancel their pulse orders to show support
this could have all been very different if you either took the help that was offered to you or graciously declined
your trouble is, you think you are this great social manipulator, rallying people around and making people do all the work for you, the trouble is you cant keep it up, your a sad pathetic little man way out of his depth and struggling to keep control, lashing out at me because you odnt know what else to do
me and many others are starting a petition to have you removed from pmk, i dont think they will want someone saying stuff like this to people they work withShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/gf7SzYA.jpg)
saying things like this to large customers of theirsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/7n1cZWG.jpg)
and being generally rude to their customers
Alright, personal attacks are done on all threads. Enough. You're grown ass men. Walk away from the keyboard, or handle it privately.
Why?
People like me would then miss out and not be able to make informed opinions and decisions about people running stores/GB's.
Having this open and in public allows users (like me) to make informed decisions and choices about where my money (and thus support) goes. If this was handled behind closed doors I wouldn't know anything about any of this and be potentially sending money and supporting people I would (have I known all the facts) never want anything to do with.
It's not like the information isn't out there. This has just gone on long enough. Every single day, it's the same two people having it out. It's a derailment from the topic at hand, is against ToS, and does not have a place here. Making informed decisions on where to put your money is fine, and in this case, you have more than enough evidence to choose what you do for yourself, thus why I'm ending it now.
and giving me a warning without messaging me or giving me any other explanation, i had totally stopped, as requested by a mod i was speaking to about the situation
mito comes back on and starts again, i did what the mod told me, which was to message them and report the post, mito continued, so i replied to his post
so at the very least, i would like an explanation sent to me about why im having moderation action against me
youre wasting your time with this top flight security mod. he has a habit of warning with no explanation.
more annoying than magically deleted posts.
youre wasting your time with this top flight security mod. he has a habit of warning with no explanation.
more annoying than magically deleted posts.
I giggled. How many have you had? :)
As I said, there are plenty of examples on here of the way he has acted. You can either look in his post history here, or look in threads for other buys that he has run/had a part in. We're not removing any material at all. It's all still there in plain sight.
youre wasting your time with this top flight security mod. he has a habit of warning with no explanation.
more annoying than magically deleted posts.
I giggled. How many have you had? :)
As I said, there are plenty of examples on here of the way he has acted. You can either look in his post history here, or look in threads for other buys that he has run/had a part in. We're not removing any material at all. It's all still there in plain sight.
false, I saw at least half a dozen posts get nuked from the COSPAR thread
youre wasting your time with this top flight security mod. he has a habit of warning with no explanation.
more annoying than magically deleted posts.
I giggled. How many have you had? :)
deleted posts? i dunno ask photoelectric and mod team account they use hide behind. havent had a warning yet.
btw guys keep to the topic. mods dont give a **** what you think. maybe one or two do(hoff <3), the rest are busy being the very best they can be.
I generally just look at my watched threads and the making stuff section because that is where my interests lie and I don't have the time to browse the rest of the forum or the money to browse the market sections, however I had some time in the last week so I decided to explore the happening in the other sections and it made me go back into my hole. I'm not gonna comment on the fake clacks in particular or ongoing arguments between the various members, however it does hurt to see the direction in which things are going in this community, a community which I believe is one of the most friendly and loving on the internet. Reading lakin.wecker's comment hurt me because of what he perceived of this community on his fairly new visit, however certainly how I would have seen the community, if I came in at such a time, lucky for me I have seen the other side of this forum, the more prominent, positive side.One of the best posts I've ever read. I'm going to print this out and refer back to it on occasion. I agree with MOZ, but his Language skills far surpass mine, and he is able to say what I cannot with a subtlety I yet lack.
I'm sure BunnyLake knows I love him, and JDCarpe that I respect him immensely, but that doesn't mean I hate MiTo or even K3KC. I always believe no one is bad, just misunderstood or misguided. Thus I just have the following advice for our new members, hopefully they'll understand what I am trying to say and take it in a positive stride.
MiTo, you have an eye for design and creating good looking sets and and even better talent to sell your goods, I know you aren't selling them on PMK as such, but I mean figuratively, you have good marketing skills. Use them wisely and stick to what you do best. I understand what you meant _initially_ when you said you support K3KC, I really do, and I address this below as well, but when people misunderstood your comments, you took things personally and to your ego. Please calm down and reflect on what you did and where your strengths lie, in making awesome colorways. Understand what BunnyLake and JDCarpe have offered to this community, they have helped so many new members, helped out in numerous GBs, which weren't even organised by themselves. JDCarpe has been always approachable by all, specially when designing new keyboards and beginning their keyboard journey. All this without asking anything in return, I know neither are you.
K3KC, you have the time, logistics and tools to create keycaps, why not put those to good use and create your own designs and art. This community is wide and varied, almost anything you envision and create will find takers as there are so many people with different tastes. Let's say, you come to a creative-block or just can't think of ideas for new caps, turn to the community, find what people would like, or make your service available to those that don't have the setup to create their own keycaps but have ideas. The number of keyboard enthusiasts are so few in this world that any financial retun on keycaps or any keyboard related accessory is hardly enough return for most people's sustenance. At the end of the day we are all in it for our love of keyboards and related stuff. Put them skills and assets to good use. It's not too late to apologise and start over, and trust me this community is so friendly and welcoming, they will accept you and love you more than you can imagine.
One of the best posts I've ever read. I'm going to print this out and refer back to it on occasion. I agree with MOZ, but his Language skills far surpass mine, and he is able to say what I cannot with a subtlety I yet lack.
This topic is not worthy of such an excellent post.
I know you're trying to bring more levity into this, but my pedant-o-meter is bouncing off the stops...
I'm sure BunnyLake knows I love him, and JDCarpe that I respect him immensely, but that doesn't mean I hate MiTo or even K3KC. I always believe no one is bad, just misunderstood or misguided. Thus I just have the following advice for our new members, hopefully they'll understand what I am trying to say and take it in a positive stride.
One of the best posts I've ever read. I'm going to print this out and refer back to it on occasion. I agree with MOZ, but his Language skills far surpass mine, and he is able to say what I cannot with a subtlety I yet lack.
This topic is not worthy of such an excellent post.
I generally just look at my watched threads and the making stuff section because that is where my interests lie and I don't have the time to browse the rest of the forum or the money to browse the market sections, however I had some time in the last week so I decided to explore the happening in the other sections and it made me go back into my hole. I'm not gonna comment on the fake clacks in particular or ongoing arguments between the various members, however it does hurt to see the direction in which things are going in this community, a community which I believe is one of the most friendly and loving on the internet. Reading lakin.wecker's comment hurt me because of what he perceived of this community on his fairly new visit, however certainly how I would have seen the community, if I came in at such a time, lucky for me I have seen the other side of this forum, the more prominent, positive side.One of the best posts I've ever read. I'm going to print this out and refer back to it on occasion. I agree with MOZ, but his Language skills far surpass mine, and he is able to say what I cannot with a subtlety I yet lack.
I'm sure BunnyLake knows I love him, and JDCarpe that I respect him immensely, but that doesn't mean I hate MiTo or even K3KC. I always believe no one is bad, just misunderstood or misguided. Thus I just have the following advice for our new members, hopefully they'll understand what I am trying to say and take it in a positive stride.
MiTo, you have an eye for design and creating good looking sets and and even better talent to sell your goods, I know you aren't selling them on PMK as such, but I mean figuratively, you have good marketing skills. Use them wisely and stick to what you do best. I understand what you meant _initially_ when you said you support K3KC, I really do, and I address this below as well, but when people misunderstood your comments, you took things personally and to your ego. Please calm down and reflect on what you did and where your strengths lie, in making awesome colorways. Understand what BunnyLake and JDCarpe have offered to this community, they have helped so many new members, helped out in numerous GBs, which weren't even organised by themselves. JDCarpe has been always approachable by all, specially when designing new keyboards and beginning their keyboard journey. All this without asking anything in return, I know neither are you.
K3KC, you have the time, logistics and tools to create keycaps, why not put those to good use and create your own designs and art. This community is wide and varied, almost anything you envision and create will find takers as there are so many people with different tastes. Let's say, you come to a creative-block or just can't think of ideas for new caps, turn to the community, find what people would like, or make your service available to those that don't have the setup to create their own keycaps but have ideas. The number of keyboard enthusiasts are so few in this world that any financial retun on keycaps or any keyboard related accessory is hardly enough return for most people's sustenance. At the end of the day we are all in it for our love of keyboards and related stuff. Put them skills and assets to good use. It's not too late to apologise and start over, and trust me this community is so friendly and welcoming, they will accept you and love you more than you can imagine.
This topic is not worthy of such an excellent post.
I know you're trying to bring more levity into this, but my pedant-o-meter is bouncing off the stops...
Shhhhh (http://www.metalinjection.net/av/between-the-buried-and-me-visited-nasa-and-shot-some-video), hush child (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd3_t2mUrD4).
I'll never understand how losing money (or time, sanity, etc.) makes an organization heroic, or in some way 'better' than one that operates at a profit.i think what he's saying is that, since CtrlAlt doesn't share the same traditional philosophies regarding profits, they also have different standards concerning how they value their customers. and ultimately, the customer has more to lose by missing out on sales than the store itself. not that they're martyrs for operating at a loss
As I said, there are plenty of examples on here of the way he has acted. You can either look in his post history here, or look in threads for other buys that he has run/had a part in. We're not removing any material at all. It's all still there in plain sight.
false, I saw at least half a dozen posts get nuked from the COSPAR thread
Ye me too. But in fairness, hoffy said he would remove it.
Regarding what's been said above, I really don't believe MiTo or K3KC are "douchebags", "slime of ****" or "scums". I am no psychologist or shrink, however from what I understand, and please understand this is my understanding of these people, not subject to objectification of being correct or wrong.
Regarding K3KC, I know he produced fake clacks, but did anyone try to understand why? Beyond the common answer of, making profit? I, when I cam to this forum didn't understand the reason for the extremely high price of CCs and might have even bought keycaps from K3KC at that time, but why? Well many of us, from humble backgrounds don't have the money to buy real CCs, and would just like a cool looking "skull" (Yes the particular CC skull) on our keyboards. The issue is, I didn't understand the "art" value of the keycap, the fact that CC spent time, effort, money and a part of himself to come up with the design of the skull. This can be hard for many to see at first, and once they do, they will understand the true value. Remember when I started the ceamocaps project, i made a very ugly CC replica on acrylic? I was attacked, and that is when I understood what was wrong and the true value of CC. This realization is what K3KC is missing. I'm sure he looks at CC for the mere objects they are and not the art value. I can understand this because in India (At least from where I come from) most people measure the value of a thing from its materialistic cost only, not even the labor cost since it is so cheap here, forget intellectual and art value. And I believe anyone can fall a victim to this. When these fake CCs came to light on geekhack, we acted with hostility, understandably so, because we love our CCs. Then it became more a show of power from K3KC, and he says this himself regarding brobots, he had no initial intention but because Brobot wasn't "friendly" with him, he decided to make them anyway. With reddit, he found a group of like-minded people and he didn't realize that he was feeding off someone else's work. Maybe if we were nice and made him realise his mistake, things wouldn't have gone as far as they have.
MOZ, I have noticed that this forum is quick to condemn those who copy artisan caps. I do agree with you that if we were to try the kind method first, perhaps some of these copycats would change their stripes and become proper artisan keymakers - but that being said, the kind method won't work with everyone, and eventually people on the forums will become fed up with those that willfully copy for profit.
I feel that K3KC is the arrogant type who retaliates at the slightest hint of slight - I think he's more than capable to create custom caps of his own, but due to having felt disrespected, he retaliates against the forum by doing what we don't want him to do. I don't think there is redemption for him at all.
MOZ, I have noticed that this forum is quick to condemn those who copy artisan caps. I do agree with you that if we were to try the kind method first, perhaps some of these copycats would change their stripes and become proper artisan keymakers - but that being said, the kind method won't work with everyone, and eventually people on the forums will become fed up with those that willfully copy for profit.
I feel that K3KC is the arrogant type who retaliates at the slightest hint of slight - I think he's more than capable to create custom caps of his own, but due to having felt disrespected, he retaliates against the forum by doing what we don't want him to do. I don't think there is redemption for him at all.
I agree with your observation of K3KC and how he reacts but please allow me to differ on the prospect of his redemption. I believe he has chance, we just haven't tried hard enough.
MOZ, I have noticed that this forum is quick to condemn those who copy artisan caps. I do agree with you that if we were to try the kind method first, perhaps some of these copycats would change their stripes and become proper artisan keymakers - but that being said, the kind method won't work with everyone, and eventually people on the forums will become fed up with those that willfully copy for profit.
I feel that K3KC is the arrogant type who retaliates at the slightest hint of slight - I think he's more than capable to create custom caps of his own, but due to having felt disrespected, he retaliates against the forum by doing what we don't want him to do. I don't think there is redemption for him at all.
I agree with your observation of K3KC and how he reacts but please allow me to differ on the prospect of his redemption. I believe he has chance, we just haven't tried hard enough.
Your belief that he is still capable of redemption shows that you are a far more patient and forgiving person than I am, and more so than most on this forum. I would not find fault in your belief and I definitely would not deter you nor mock you for it.
I haven't really participate much on this forums despite being on here for some time, but my takeaway from reading your posts is that I should be more active in helping to correct those who either support fake capmakers or those who are new capmakers presenting copied materials. I would say that to remain on-topic to this thread is that I support MOZ's view of doing whatever we can to guide key-copiers away from what they are doing before we condemn them.
MOZ, I have noticed that this forum is quick to condemn those who copy artisan caps. I do agree with you that if we were to try the kind method first, perhaps some of these copycats would change their stripes and become proper artisan keymakers - but that being said, the kind method won't work with everyone, and eventually people on the forums will become fed up with those that willfully copy for profit.
I feel that K3KC is the arrogant type who retaliates at the slightest hint of slight - I think he's more than capable to create custom caps of his own, but due to having felt disrespected, he retaliates against the forum by doing what we don't want him to do. I don't think there is redemption for him at all.
I agree with your observation of K3KC and how he reacts but please allow me to differ on the prospect of his redemption. I believe he has chance, we just haven't tried hard enough.
Your belief that he is still capable of redemption shows that you are a far more patient and forgiving person than I am, and more so than most on this forum. I would not find fault in your belief and I definitely would not deter you nor mock you for it.
I haven't really participate much on this forums despite being on here for some time, but my takeaway from reading your posts is that I should be more active in helping to correct those who either support fake capmakers or those who are new capmakers presenting copied materials. I would say that to remain on-topic to this thread is that I support MOZ's view of doing whatever we can to guide key-copiers away from what they are doing before we condemn them.
You're telling me that a few kind words could have averted what was effectively K3 knowingly throwing blood into the water to create a frenzy? If he was floating this stuff out there he could have done it a lot differently than dropping pics of counterfeits into Clack and Brobot threads throughout the site. He did this to take shots at the artisans knowing full well what the reaction from the majority of the community would be. You apologists are seriously pathetic.
MOZ, I have noticed that this forum is quick to condemn those who copy artisan caps. I do agree with you that if we were to try the kind method first, perhaps some of these copycats would change their stripes and become proper artisan keymakers - but that being said, the kind method won't work with everyone, and eventually people on the forums will become fed up with those that willfully copy for profit.
I feel that K3KC is the arrogant type who retaliates at the slightest hint of slight - I think he's more than capable to create custom caps of his own, but due to having felt disrespected, he retaliates against the forum by doing what we don't want him to do. I don't think there is redemption for him at all.
I agree with your observation of K3KC and how he reacts but please allow me to differ on the prospect of his redemption. I believe he has chance, we just haven't tried hard enough.
Your belief that he is still capable of redemption shows that you are a far more patient and forgiving person than I am, and more so than most on this forum. I would not find fault in your belief and I definitely would not deter you nor mock you for it.
I haven't really participate much on this forums despite being on here for some time, but my takeaway from reading your posts is that I should be more active in helping to correct those who either support fake capmakers or those who are new capmakers presenting copied materials. I would say that to remain on-topic to this thread is that I support MOZ's view of doing whatever we can to guide key-copiers away from what they are doing before we condemn them.
You're telling me that a few kind words could have averted what was effectively K3 knowingly throwing blood into the water to create a frenzy? If he was floating this stuff out there he could have done it a lot differently than dropping pics of counterfeits into Clack and Brobot threads throughout the site. He did this to take shots at the artisans knowing full well what the reaction from the majority of the community would be. You apologists are seriously pathetic.
demik's really got the most posts of anyone on the forum ;)
demik's really got the most posts of anyone on the forum ;)
?
demik has 12854.
SpAmRay has 17338!
Rowdy seems to have 17690, but we won't go in to that ;)
all im getting from this thread is that hoffman should be president of geekhack
demik's really got the most posts of anyone on the forum ;)
?
demik has 12854.
SpAmRay has 17338!
Rowdy seems to have 17690, but we won't go in to that ;)
Yeah but you gotta figure demik's got a few thousand deleted ones! ;)
I take exception with the fact that there is anything other than condemnation being expressed in this thread given the method by which K3 has decided to inform us of his work. The guy is taking potshots at people who make this community what it is, and it's not about him not understanding what he is doing. MOZ should stop trying to absolve him of responsibility for what he has done. His actions are unjustifiable and he is blatantly attacking two artisan crafters in this community while you nod and MOZ tells everyone to have a hug because really, we're all fundamentally good. Kind words do not work when the people you are dealing with have demonstrated a fundamental lack of character.
Frosty, your post is irrelevant. K3 isn't a 12 year old. He has done this twice now. If he didn't learn from the last experience he sure as **** has demonstrated he is unrepentant.
every so often even though we like to think that we have moved on from all that, we always make another **** up, and when that happens we just need to remember that people can change with time and understanding. However people will never change for the better if we try to shoot them down.
I take exception with the fact that there is anything other than condemnation being expressed in this thread given the method by which K3 has decided to inform us of his work. The guy is taking potshots at people who make this community what it is, and it's not about him not understanding what he is doing. MOZ should stop trying to absolve him of responsibility for what he has done. His actions are unjustifiable and he is blatantly attacking two artisan crafters in this community while you nod and MOZ tells everyone to have a hug because really, we're all fundamentally good. Kind words do not work when the people you are dealing with have demonstrated a fundamental lack of character.
Frosty, your post is irrelevant. K3 isn't a 12 year old, your argument is moot.
demik's really got the most posts of anyone on the forum ;)
demik has 12854.
SpAmRay has 17338!
Rowdy seems to have 17690, but we won't go in to that ;)
hoffman should be president of geekhack
demik's really got the most posts of anyone on the forum ;)
demik has 12854.
SpAmRay has 17338!
Rowdy seems to have 17690, but we won't go in to that ;)
As I'm in third place with 13400, I propose to the GH userbase that they write me in as President. I will bribe everyone with ice cream. 2015: The year we beat Hoffman.
I don't think Dyslexic is really dyslexic, because I sure as **** can't get my point across anywhere near as well as he can :P
CBA: Secretary of Dessert
looking past k3's arrogance and blatant disrespect towards other members of this community, there is also the chance that these fakes will find themselves inside the classifieds. Newer members could be taken advantage of thinking they are purchasing a cap with the craftsmanship of Bro/CC. If this member grabs a fake thinking it is genuine and notices how terrible the quality is, Bro/CC could lose a fan/buyer. I would be upset coming to a forum that was flooded with counterfeits, and I would definitely not stick around having been duped spending $50-$100 on a crap keycap thinking its the real deal.
Yes - true, and but in the case of K3, he's specifically tagging the bottom of his caps as K3 instead of BB or CC. We have that to be thankful for, at the least (regardless of his reasoning for it).
Yes - true, and but in the case of K3, he's specifically tagging the bottom of his caps as K3 instead of BB or CC. We have that to be thankful for, at the least (regardless of his reasoning for it).
How can you talk about keycaps at election time? Help me beat the oppressive Hoffman. He likes Culver's and it's obvious that Jeni's and Ben and Jerry's are the one true ice cream.
Yes - true, and but in the case of K3, he's specifically tagging the bottom of his caps as K3 instead of BB or CC. We have that to be thankful for, at the least (regardless of his reasoning for it).
How can you talk about keycaps at election time? Help me beat the oppressive Hoffman. He likes Culver's and it's obvious that Jeni's and Ben and Jerry's are the one true ice cream.
Yes - true, and but in the case of K3, he's specifically tagging the bottom of his caps as K3 instead of BB or CC. We have that to be thankful for, at the least (regardless of his reasoning for it).
Sorry CPT, Hoff's got my vote. Anyone who supports Phil Ken Sebben has me locked down.
sorry CPT while i am a huge supporter of your purple policy,
Hoffman's stance on being proTopre may give him the edge in the race
Sorry CPT, Hoff's got my vote. Anyone who supports Phil Ken Sebben has me locked down.sorry CPT while i am a huge supporter of your purple policy,
Hoffman's stance on being proTopre may give him the edge in the race
I offer you many bribes. Please PM me for more details.
Yes - true, and but in the case of K3, he's specifically tagging the bottom of his caps as K3 instead of BB or CC. We have that to be thankful for, at the least (regardless of his reasoning for it).
He didn't make any markings on the Bro Caps to differentiate them from the pictures we've seen so far. I got the impression that he wasn't going to mark his BB clones to spite BC specifically in an attempt to undermine the reputation his keys have earned.
There's nothing stopping him (other than being dog**** quality) from producing keys without his little k3 scratched into them and there's no guarantee he hasn't been distributing keys like that already.
CPT, I take bribes in artisan caps. Send them my way and you have my vote!
(But don't send me any knock offs :p )
CPT, I take bribes in artisan caps. Send them my way and you have my vote!
(But don't send me any knock offs :p )
Deal. I will send you lots of ice cream.
I don't think Dyslexic is really dyslexic, because I sure as **** can't get my point across anywhere near as well as he can :P
hes a really nice guy to boot
+ jane doe, so im a fan
Deal. I will send you lots of ice cream.
Have the ice cream sent up to BC first. It will melt on its way here, but if the ice cream is exposed to the ambient temperatures of Canadia, then it should stay frozen.
While the ice cream is up there, we can have our Inuits transport it via dog sled to my igloo.
Just wanted to shout out to CPTBadAss: I had the same thought as you when I saw the fake/nasa logo. BTBAM appropriated it and that's the way I like it! Now time to turn on Live at the Fidelitorium.
Deal. I will send you lots of ice cream.
Have the ice cream sent up to BC first. It will melt on its way here, but if the ice cream is exposed to the ambient temperatures of Canadia, then it should stay frozen.
While the ice cream is up there, we can have our Inuits transport it via dog sled to my igloo.
Wow, such luxury. You have delivery ice cream and you get to pet dogs after they bring it to you. I am truly jealous of the Great White North.Just wanted to shout out to CPTBadAss: I had the same thought as you when I saw the fake/nasa logo. BTBAM appropriated it and that's the way I like it! Now time to turn on Live at the Fidelitorium.
I love love *love* Live at Fideltorium. That's the national anthem I'll be running under in my campaign against Hoff!
I'm rewatching it for the 8th or 9th time now and I've only had it just over a week. This **** is masterful. I don't know if I enjoyed seeing them on the Parallax II tour or watching this more.
I don't think Dyslexic is really dyslexic, because I sure as **** can't get my point across anywhere near as well as he can :P
hes a really nice guy to boot
+ jane doe, so im a fan
I appreciate the kind words -- in true hipster fashion, the name is ironic. I read and write, a lot.
Just wanted to shout out to CPTBadAss: I had the same thought as you when I saw the fake/nasa logo. BTBAM appropriated it and that's the way I like it! Now time to turn on Live at the Fidelitorium.
damn i nominate hoff and don't even get a mention.
captain's ice creambribethank you is looking REAL nice right about now.
**** the nominations. Let's just have anarchy, instead.
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Apparently I'm running for President against CBA. I have not prepared a speech for such an occasion.
Instead, I offer my finest cheeses to all that may be swayed by such an offer.
Also, beer for everyone!!
Also also, thanks to my early supporters. Phil Ken Sebben and Topre are two very important things to me. :thumb:
/me just remembered the title of this thread.
Only a little bit off topic. :P
Apparently I'm running for President against CBA. I have not prepared a speech for such an occasion.
Instead, I offer my finest cheeses to all that may be swayed by such an offer.
Also, beer for everyone!!
Also also, thanks to my early supporters. Phil Ken Sebben and Topre are two very important things to me. :thumb:
/me just remembered the title of this thread.
Only a little bit off topic. :P
Apparently I'm running for President against CBA. I have not prepared a speech for such an occasion.
Instead, I offer my finest cheeses to all that may be swayed by such an offer.
Also, beer for everyone!!
Also also, thanks to my early supporters. Phil Ken Sebben and Topre are two very important things to me. :thumb:
/me just remembered the title of this thread.
Only a little bit off topic. :P
If only you'd offered me some of those big hot dogs you like...
Apparently I'm running for President against CBA. I have not prepared a speech for such an occasion.
Instead, I offer my finest cheeses to all that may be swayed by such an offer.
Also, beer for everyone!!
Also also, thanks to my early supporters. Phil Ken Sebben and Topre are two very important things to me. :thumb:
/me just remembered the title of this thread.
Only a little bit off topic. :P
If only you'd offered me some of those big hot dogs you like...
Good point, free brats for everyone!!
**** the two party system!! The one true leader is the almighty girlshark and any "president" is just a puppet for the shark anyway!
King Klaxon who does not recognize the girlshark.
**** the two party system!! The one true leader is the almighty girlshark and any "president" is just a puppet for the shark anyway!
Kings get slaughtered!!**** the two party system!! The one true leader is the almighty girlshark and any "president" is just a puppet for the shark anyway!
Except the power of King Klaxon who does not recognize the girlshark.
**** the two party system!! The one true leader is the almighty girlshark and any "president" is just a puppet for the shark anyway!
Kings get slaughtered!!**** the two party system!! The one true leader is the almighty girlshark and any "president" is just a puppet for the shark anyway!
Except the power of King Klaxon who does not recognize the girlshark.
Kings get slaughtered!!**** the two party system!! The one true leader is the almighty girlshark and any "president" is just a puppet for the shark anyway!
Except the power of King Klaxon who does not recognize the girlshark.
They also slaughter dissidents.
Kings get slaughtered!!**** the two party system!! The one true leader is the almighty girlshark and any "president" is just a puppet for the shark anyway!
Except the power of King Klaxon who does not recognize the girlshark.
They also slaughter dissidents.
Human beings in a mob
What's a mob to a king? What's a king to a God?
What's a God to a non-believer who don't believe in anything?
And what's a cookie without a little milk? Am I right?Kings get slaughtered!!**** the two party system!! The one true leader is the almighty girlshark and any "president" is just a puppet for the shark anyway!
Except the power of King Klaxon who does not recognize the girlshark.
They also slaughter dissidents.
Human beings in a mob
What's a mob to a king? What's a king to a God?
What's a God to a non-believer who don't believe in anything?
Kings get slaughtered!!**** the two party system!! The one true leader is the almighty girlshark and any "president" is just a puppet for the shark anyway!
Except the power of King Klaxon who does not recognize the girlshark.
They also slaughter dissidents.
Human beings in a mob
What's a mob to a king? What's a king to a God?
What's a God to a non-believer who don't believe in anything?
still a god
Kings get slaughtered!!**** the two party system!! The one true leader is the almighty girlshark and any "president" is just a puppet for the shark anyway!
Except the power of King Klaxon who does not recognize the girlshark.
They also slaughter dissidents.
Human beings in a mob
What's a mob to a king? What's a king to a God?
What's a God to a non-believer who don't believe in anything?
still a god
Gods have no power when they aren't recognized.
Kings get slaughtered!!**** the two party system!! The one true leader is the almighty girlshark and any "president" is just a puppet for the shark anyway!
Except the power of King Klaxon who does not recognize the girlshark.
They also slaughter dissidents.
Human beings in a mob
What's a mob to a king? What's a king to a God?
What's a God to a non-believer who don't believe in anything?
still a god
Gods have no power when they aren't recognized.
reported
reported
Nope.
reported
Nope.
**** the nominations. Let's just have anarchy, instead.
remove the s in https and it'll work
And I like it.Show Image(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7idbfJcFi1ryj6qoo1_500.gif)
**** the nominations. Let's just have anarchy, instead.
Bro Caps, true or not?: k3kc is the original inventor of Bro Caps, and you counterfeited them from him.
Not sure what to make of this, other than I'm disappointed with the extremely childish way it was handled on both sides. I joined GeekHack thinking this community was above that level of petty bickering and schoolyard name-calling. I guess I was wrong.
Some of you could use a lesson in economics. When you force exclusivity on a product you create an abundance of demand. When the demand reaches a threshold, knockoffs will inevitably appear to satisfy it. This is not to say I support knockoffs. But if you want your clacks/brobots/gasmasks/whatever to remain limited and "special", then you should prepare for there to be knockoffs. Because people want to buy them and somebody, somewhere is going to seize that opportunity. Welcome to Economics 101.
It's also somewhat hypocritical to vehemently defend GH Maker keycaps and in the very next breath, run off to GMK to beg for your copyrighted images to be printed/subbed onto caps and buy them by the shipping container. Guess what, that image/icon/logo belongs to somebody too -- maybe a big, faceless, corporate somebody who doesn't post on GeekHack, but still somebody interested in defending his copyright and his intellectual property. Is it only totally cool to steal someone's work when they aren't GH members? Where do you draw the line?
What a mess.
run off to GMK to beg for your copyrighted images to be printed/subbed onto caps and buy them by the shipping container. Guess what, that image/icon/logo belongs to somebody too
Some of you could use a lesson in economics. When you force exclusivity on a product you create an abundance of demand. When the demand reaches a threshold, knockoffs will inevitably appear to satisfy it. This is not to say I support knockoffs. But if you want your clacks/brobots/gasmasks/whatever to remain limited and "special", then you should prepare for there to be knockoffs. Because people want to buy them and somebody, somewhere is going to seize that opportunity. Welcome to Economics 101.
Some of you could use a lesson in economics. When you force exclusivity on a product you create an abundance of demand. When the demand reaches a threshold, knockoffs will inevitably appear to satisfy it. This is not to say I support knockoffs. But if you want your clacks/brobots/gasmasks/whatever to remain limited and "special", then you should prepare for there to be knockoffs. Because people want to buy them and somebody, somewhere is going to seize that opportunity. Welcome to Economics 101.
I can't say just how many times I hear this, and how many times I have to reply with 'I am one ****ing person, I make as many as I can possibly make in the time I have'. There's no 'exclusivity' or 'purposefully limiting production'. Cop-out excuses like this are the norm lately. It doesn't give anyone license to make fakes just because the original creator can't produce them on a large scale.
This is a small community, and I cater to that. I am not catering to mass produced parts. Nor do I have the ability or desire to do so.
Your argument is that we should be OK with it, and move on. If it directly affected you, I guarantee you wouldn't have the same attitude. So you can sit comfortable from your uninvolved bystanders position and spit out opinions on the matter, but until you actually experience on the level of affecting you in a personal way, you really have no opinion.
+1 and den sum... :thumb:
Some of you could use a lesson in economics. When you force exclusivity on a product you create an abundance of demand. When the demand reaches a threshold, knockoffs will inevitably appear to satisfy it. This is not to say I support knockoffs. But if you want your clacks/brobots/gasmasks/whatever to remain limited and "special", then you should prepare for there to be knockoffs. Because people want to buy them and somebody, somewhere is going to seize that opportunity. Welcome to Economics 101.
I can't say just how many times I hear this, and how many times I have to reply with 'I am one ****ing person, I make as many as I can possibly make in the time I have'. There's no 'exclusivity' or 'purposefully limiting production'. Cop-out excuses like this are the norm lately. It doesn't give anyone license to make fakes just because the original creator can't produce them on a large scale.
This is a small community, and I cater to that. I am not catering to mass produced parts. Nor do I have the ability or desire to do so.
Your argument is that we should be OK with it, and move on. If it directly affected you, I guarantee you wouldn't have the same attitude. So you can sit comfortable from your uninvolved bystanders position and spit out opinions on the matter, but until you actually experience on the level of affecting you in a personal way, you really have no opinion.
run off to GMK to beg for your copyrighted images to be printed/subbed onto caps and buy them by the shipping container. Guess what, that image/icon/logo belongs to somebody too
Could you be more specific here? What do you mean? I've never heard of GMK printing anything it doesn't have rights to? thanks.
Some of you could use a lesson in economics. When you force exclusivity on a product you create an abundance of demand. When the demand reaches a threshold, knockoffs will inevitably appear to satisfy it. This is not to say I support knockoffs. But if you want your clacks/brobots/gasmasks/whatever to remain limited and "special", then you should prepare for there to be knockoffs. Because people want to buy them and somebody, somewhere is going to seize that opportunity. Welcome to Economics 101.
I can't say just how many times I hear this, and how many times I have to reply with 'I am one ****ing person, I make as many as I can possibly make in the time I have'. There's no 'exclusivity' or 'purposefully limiting production'. Cop-out excuses like this are the norm lately. It doesn't give anyone license to make fakes just because the original creator can't produce them on a large scale.
This is a small community, and I cater to that. I am not catering to mass produced parts. Nor do I have the ability or desire to do so.
Your argument is that we should be OK with it, and move on. If it directly affected you, I guarantee you wouldn't have the same attitude. So you can sit comfortable from your uninvolved bystanders position and spit out opinions on the matter, but until you actually experience on the level of affecting you in a personal way, you really have no opinion.
The limited availability of Bro Caps (as well as other artisan keycaps) is part of the appeal.
If you were to make an unlimited number of them at rock bottom prices so that everyone could have as many as they wanted, you might as well send the design to Tai Hao and commission them to make 104 key sets of Bro Caps so everyone can have a keyboard full.
guess im the only one that hates limited ****.
but blaming brocaps or cc because they dont make enough and thats the reason for fakes is retarded. like brocaps said, hes only one person and can only do so much.
run off to GMK to beg for your copyrighted images to be printed/subbed onto caps and buy them by the shipping container. Guess what, that image/icon/logo belongs to somebody too
Could you be more specific here? What do you mean? I've never heard of GMK printing anything it doesn't have rights to? thanks.
Dude, no offense. Don't mistake my intention. I understand that you produce what you're able to and I don't fault you for that. But surely you must realize how that creates exclusivity in your product, don't you? And while you clearly don't like it, some here enjoy the rarity and the minigame behind acquiring your caps. Have you seen what they sell for second-hand? I mean, come on...
Some of you could use a lesson in economics. When you force exclusivity on a product you create an abundance of demand. When the demand reaches a threshold, knockoffs will inevitably appear to satisfy it. This is not to say I support knockoffs. But if you want your clacks/brobots/gasmasks/whatever to remain limited and "special", then you should prepare for there to be knockoffs. Because people want to buy them and somebody, somewhere is going to seize that opportunity. Welcome to Economics 101.
I can't say just how many times I hear this, and how many times I have to reply with 'I am one ****ing person, I make as many as I can possibly make in the time I have'. There's no 'exclusivity' or 'purposefully limiting production'. Cop-out excuses like this are the norm lately. It doesn't give anyone license to make fakes just because the original creator can't produce them on a large scale.
This is a small community, and I cater to that. I am not catering to mass produced parts. Nor do I have the ability or desire to do so.Again, NOT asking you to do more. It's not necessary for you to change a single thing. That is light years from my point.
Your argument is that we should be OK with it, and move on.Yes and no. I think you're intelligent enough to understand how the world works. I think you have every right to defend your product and your IP -- and should. I also know that you're not going to win every single battle. I also think you should be confident enough in your work that the quality of an authentic Bro Cap will stand up against all imitators, and that in the absence of Bro Cap availability, understand that some will turn to knockoffs to get what they want.
If it directly affected you, I guarantee you wouldn't have the same attitude. So you can sit comfortable from your uninvolved bystanders position and spit out opinions on the matter, but until you actually experience on the level of affecting you in a personal way, you really have no opinion.
I'm NOT picking on Ivan, this isn't about him, his were just the most convenient examples.
(Sorry Ivan!)
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50935.0
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58198.0
The first one was run through GMK.
run off to GMK to beg for your copyrighted images to be printed/subbed onto caps and buy them by the shipping container. Guess what, that image/icon/logo belongs to somebody too
Could you be more specific here? What do you mean? I've never heard of GMK printing anything it doesn't have rights to? thanks.
I'm NOT picking on Ivan, this isn't about him, his were just the most convenient examples.
(Sorry Ivan!)
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50935.0
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58198.0
run off to GMK to beg for your copyrighted images to be printed/subbed onto caps and buy them by the shipping container. Guess what, that image/icon/logo belongs to somebody too
Could you be more specific here? What do you mean? I've never heard of GMK printing anything it doesn't have rights to? thanks.
I'm NOT picking on Ivan, this isn't about him, his were just the most convenient examples.
(Sorry Ivan!)
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50935.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50935.0)
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58198.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58198.0)
The first one was run through GMK. The second, I don't know if Ivan ever stated who did the dye sub on those. It may not have been GMK, and I don't mean to imply that it was, but my point still stands: Geekhackers line up in droves for novelty keys with copyrighted images.
Nothing against GMK or any other shop, here. I'm only pointing out the hypocrisy and reinforcing the idea that market forces take over when demand is high.
And as someone else already mentioned, IMSTO might be a better example.Dude, no offense. Don't mistake my intention. I understand that you produce what you're able to and I don't fault you for that. But surely you must realize how that creates exclusivity in your product, don't you? And while you clearly don't like it, some here enjoy the rarity and the minigame behind acquiring your caps. Have you seen what they sell for second-hand? I mean, come on...
Some of you could use a lesson in economics. When you force exclusivity on a product you create an abundance of demand. When the demand reaches a threshold, knockoffs will inevitably appear to satisfy it. This is not to say I support knockoffs. But if you want your clacks/brobots/gasmasks/whatever to remain limited and "special", then you should prepare for there to be knockoffs. Because people want to buy them and somebody, somewhere is going to seize that opportunity. Welcome to Economics 101.
I can't say just how many times I hear this, and how many times I have to reply with 'I am one ****ing person, I make as many as I can possibly make in the time I have'. There's no 'exclusivity' or 'purposefully limiting production'. Cop-out excuses like this are the norm lately. It doesn't give anyone license to make fakes just because the original creator can't produce them on a large scale.QuoteThis is a small community, and I cater to that. I am not catering to mass produced parts. Nor do I have the ability or desire to do so.Again, NOT asking you to do more. It's not necessary for you to change a single thing. That is light years from my point.QuoteYour argument is that we should be OK with it, and move on.Yes and no. I think you're intelligent enough to understand how the world works. I think you have every right to defend your product and your IP -- and should. I also know that you're not going to win every single battle. I also think you should be confident enough in your work that the quality of an authentic Bro Cap will stand up against all imitators, and that in the absence of Bro Cap availability, understand that some will turn to knockoffs to get what they want.QuoteIf it directly affected you, I guarantee you wouldn't have the same attitude. So you can sit comfortable from your uninvolved bystanders position and spit out opinions on the matter, but until you actually experience on the level of affecting you in a personal way, you really have no opinion.
I don't make key caps, so I can't speak to that specifically, but I have had my worked "ripped off" at times and while it doesn't feel great, if it didn't directly impact my ability to make a living (and in no such case did it), then I just shrugged it off and considered it a lesson learned. I've done graphic design work for communities and charity and even organized a few group buys, all of it pro bono "hobby"-type stuff, so I'm no stranger to people "liberally re-using" my work (and doing it poorly).
Sorry for the wall of text.
Dude, no offense. Don't mistake my intention. I understand that you produce what you're able to and I don't fault you for that. But surely you must realize how that creates exclusivity in your product, don't you? And while you clearly don't like it, some here enjoy the rarity and the minigame behind acquiring your caps. Have you seen what they sell for second-hand? I mean, come on...I do my best to ensure the second hand market stays fair (I cover this in my FAQ). I of course, can't control what happens in PM's or behind closed doors. But most people on here are honest folks (I would like to believe), and do what they think is fair.
Yes and no. I think you're intelligent enough to understand how the world works. I think you have every right to defend your product and your IP -- and should. I also know that you're not going to win every single battle. I also think you should be confident enough in your work that the quality of an authentic Bro Cap will stand up against all imitators, and that in the absence of Bro Cap availability, understand that some will turn to knockoffs to get what they want.
I don't make key caps, so I can't speak to that specifically, but I have had my worked "ripped off" at times and while it doesn't feel great, if it didn't directly impact my ability to make a living (and in no such case did it), then I just shrugged it off and considered it a lesson learned. I've done graphic design work for communities and charity and even organized a few group buys, all of it pro bono "hobby"-type stuff, so I'm no stranger to people "liberally re-using" my work (and doing it poorly).
I'm sorry that this is happening Bro Caps, sincerely. Not sure what can be done. :-[
Narrowing down a quote to create better context is always helpful. But what do I know? This comment with this quote is out of context.
I don't think you need to worry about walls of text, as people can easily scroll with their mouse wheel :)
But to your point:QuoteDude, no offense. Don't mistake my intention. I understand that you produce what you're able to and I don't fault you for that. But surely you must realize how that creates exclusivity in your product, don't you? And while you clearly don't like it, some here enjoy the rarity and the minigame behind acquiring your caps. Have you seen what they sell for second-hand? I mean, come on...I do my best to ensure the second hand market stays fair (I cover this in my FAQ). I of course, can't control what happens in PM's or behind closed doors. But most people on here are honest folks (I would like to believe), and do what they think is fair.QuoteYes and no. I think you're intelligent enough to understand how the world works. I think you have every right to defend your product and your IP -- and should. I also know that you're not going to win every single battle. I also think you should be confident enough in your work that the quality of an authentic Bro Cap will stand up against all imitators, and that in the absence of Bro Cap availability, understand that some will turn to knockoffs to get what they want.
I understand that I can't control every instance of fakes, but this person in particular is exceptionally under-handed and despicable. He is literally coming to these forums and taunting. He has no scruples, no respect for the community and obviously no morals regarding the community or the artists involved. That's the only reason I am particularly going after this dude with such ferocity. I have seen his quality, and it's pretty trashy. So I am not worried about people mistaking his stuff for mine. On top of that, he has proven he doesn't really have the ability to be creative. Being able to make a mold of something doesn't make you talented, it just means you can follow directions he found in the many 'making stuff together' resources he found here.QuoteI don't make key caps, so I can't speak to that specifically, but I have had my worked "ripped off" at times and while it doesn't feel great, if it didn't directly impact my ability to make a living (and in no such case did it), then I just shrugged it off and considered it a lesson learned. I've done graphic design work for communities and charity and even organized a few group buys, all of it pro bono "hobby"-type stuff, so I'm no stranger to people "liberally re-using" my work (and doing it poorly).
I don't think the people that appreciate my work would ever buy from him, and the people that would buy from him are not the people I cater to anyways, so it's really not about that. It's more about how much of a **** this guy is being about it. He is making it extremely personal.
I'm NOT picking on Ivan, this isn't about him, his were just the most convenient examples.
(Sorry Ivan!)
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50935.0
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58198.0
The first one was run through GMK.
Just to be clear. The GMK caps in that set was an *add-on* to PBT dyesubs that Ivan had IMSTO or another manufacturer in China made. (I think Ivan may go through PLUM as well but I'm not 100% sure).
run off to GMK to beg for your copyrighted images to be printed/subbed onto caps and buy them by the shipping container. Guess what, that image/icon/logo belongs to somebody too
Could you be more specific here? What do you mean? I've never heard of GMK printing anything it doesn't have rights to? thanks.
I'm NOT picking on Ivan, this isn't about him, his were just the most convenient examples.
(Sorry Ivan!)
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50935.0
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58198.0
That PBT was done through Imsto, GMK only does Cherry doubleshots & ABS (as far as I know). Just want to be clear on that.
Some of you could use a lesson in economics. When you force exclusivity on a product you create an abundance of demand. When the demand reaches a threshold, knockoffs will inevitably appear to satisfy it. This is not to say I support knockoffs. But if you want your clacks/brobots/gasmasks/whatever to remain limited and "special", then you should prepare for there to be knockoffs. Because people want to buy them and somebody, somewhere is going to seize that opportunity. Welcome to Economics 101.
Some of you could use a lesson in economics. When you force exclusivity on a product you create an abundance of demand. When the demand reaches a threshold, knockoffs will inevitably appear to satisfy it. This is not to say I support knockoffs. But if you want your clacks/brobots/gasmasks/whatever to remain limited and "special", then you should prepare for there to be knockoffs. Because people want to buy them and somebody, somewhere is going to seize that opportunity. Welcome to Economics 101.
This isn't about understanding economics. We all understand that a limited production product will starve the market and open gaps for fakes. No one here is confused as to why this happened.
We're reacting to our friend and fellow community member having his work ripped off, regardless of the reason. If he pumped out a million units a year, we'd still be mad that someone copied his work illegally. We might also be confused as to why someone did that, but that's not the point. The point is that this is not related to economics. This is related to ethics and morals.
Some of you could use a lesson in economics. When you force exclusivity on a product you create an abundance of demand. When the demand reaches a threshold, knockoffs will inevitably appear to satisfy it. This is not to say I support knockoffs. But if you want your clacks/brobots/gasmasks/whatever to remain limited and "special", then you should prepare for there to be knockoffs. Because people want to buy them and somebody, somewhere is going to seize that opportunity. Welcome to Economics 101.
This isn't about understanding economics. We all understand that a limited production product will starve the market and open gaps for fakes. No one here is confused as to why this happened.
We're reacting to our friend and fellow community member having his work ripped off, regardless of the reason. If he pumped out a million units a year, we'd still be mad that someone copied his work illegally. We might also be confused as to why someone did that, but that's not the point. The point is that this is not related to economics. This is related to ethics and morals.
Well said, Hoff. Couldn't have said it any better myself.
Does that mean it's time for you to lock this thread?
We really need the ability to like posts... esoomenona hitting it out of the park today... damn
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5bG0Ohq.png)
Looks like this fuker is still up to no good.
A reminder that vietnamese=/= fake artisans supporter.
So now instead of just casting copies using the original, he is just biting designs and sculpting based off pictures and trying to beat Bro to market? Ugh.
So now instead of just casting copies using the original, he is just biting designs and sculpting based off pictures and trying to beat Bro to market? Ugh.
If he sculpted that, then he magically gained sculpting talent overnight. His would looks like a retarded finger puppet, so there's no way he did that.
It's getting to the point where you need verified provenance of each cap before trading.
So now instead of just casting copies using the original, he is just biting designs and sculpting based off pictures and trying to beat Bro to market? Ugh.
If he sculpted that, then he magically gained sculpting talent overnight. His would looks like a retarded finger puppet, so there's no way he did that.
It's getting to the point where you need verified provenance of each cap before trading.
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5bG0Ohq.png)
Looks like this fuker is still up to no good.
A reminder that vietnamese=/= fake artisans supporter.
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5bG0Ohq.png)
Looks like this fuker is still up to no good.
A reminder that vietnamese=/= fake artisans supporter.
K3's thought process in this:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/j8XCn1G.png)
Well, at least he isnt trying to sculpt things by himself anymore. Wouldn't want overweight rat caps infesting the market.
One thing is clear, though:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/uB3m1EF.jpg)
Yo those jacks look better than the clackvent bs jack hahaha. Dude is stepping up his cloning.
NOW DO BLANKS AND FNs ffs.
Are theses new ones k3 making them or someone else now? :x because there was that photo not long ago with a load of trans ones too :XShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/5bG0Ohq.png)
Looks like this fuker is still up to no good.
A reminder that vietnamese=/= fake artisans supporter.
K3's thought process in this:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/j8XCn1G.png)
Well, at least he isnt trying to sculpt things by himself anymore. Wouldn't want overweight rat caps infesting the market.
One thing is clear, though:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/uB3m1EF.jpg)
with so many Jacks, now there's more to worry when one pops up in the market. I sure hope he keeps to his ****ty k3 logo at the bottom!He prolly will, he still considers his work "art".
Yo those jacks look better than the clackvent bs jack hahaha. Dude is stepping up his cloning.
NOW DO BLANKS AND FNs ffs.
aaaaaaaaaaaay
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/BpS3Q4z.jpg)
Do people really knowingly support this guy enough to keep up his bull****. Maybe its because I'm to on reddit as much as I used to be and rarely pay attention to any of the other keyboard forums besides DTA and GH but I rarely see anbody mention this asshat or see any of his so called work.....Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5bG0Ohq.png)
Looks like this fuker is still up to no good.
A reminder that vietnamese=/= fake artisans supporter.
Do people really knowingly support this guy enough to keep up his bull****. Maybe its because I'm to on reddit as much as I used to be and rarely pay attention to any of the other keyboard forums besides DTA and GH but I rarely see anbody mention this asshat or see any of his so called work.....Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5bG0Ohq.png)
Looks like this fuker is still up to no good.
A reminder that vietnamese=/= fake artisans supporter.
Lol if this is a pic of k3 he should worry less about keycaps and more about protein :eek: Somebody give this mofo a sammich he looks hungry...
Ya, ok.. didn't know there was replicas out there of brobots until I saw this https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/5wrhds/caon_h_vea_artisans_ramage_etf_lost_keys_suk_kk/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/5wrhds/caon_h_vea_artisans_ramage_etf_lost_keys_suk_kk/) .. so now I am concerned that maybe mine are fakes? how to detect a fake brobot???? anyone?
Just recently bought a liberator set and there is no id behind them- its just blank
Thank you for your help! I feel alot better now :thumb:
Yea he seem reputable - he had alot of them and many trades on reddit. It was this sale : https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/5vkp1c/usia_h_artisans_bros_hws_w_paypal/
I should of done more research before buying them, tbh there isn't much on brocaps authenticity but found alot on clack factory. I don't want to pm bro he probably has way to much messages daily so posted it here.
Xiro doesn't buy or sell fakes.I would bet he's one of the best about identifying fakes
I was/am concerned about this as well. Generally speaking, if you buy from a reputable collector (like Xiro or Ace) who has been around on mm or gh, you will be fine.
However, there have been a few fakes sold on mm recently (as fakes), and who knows whether they will fall into less honest hands.
I actually ordered one myself to see if I could find a way to tell if it's fake. Will post any findings.
I was/am concerned about this as well. Generally speaking, if you buy from a reputable collector (like Xiro or Ace) who has been around on mm or gh, you will be fine.
However, there have been a few fakes sold on mm recently (as fakes), and who knows whether they will fall into less honest hands.
I actually ordered one myself to see if I could find a way to tell if it's fake. Will post any findings.
i think he atleast not copiying the makers stamp inside the cap(i might be wrong), just for the reason that he wants to advertise himself instead.