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Title: Which Capslock legend do you prefer and why?
Post by: Karura on Mon, 13 October 2014, 11:17:16

Hi, little edit, I would like to rephrase the question: Do you prefer the Capslock, Padlock, or Downarrow legend for caps lock?

Hey just wondering how do people like the down arrow caps lock legend?

I love how symmetric it looks with the shift key. How come it isn't more common?

Would you like to have it on your keyboard instead of "Caps lock" if it were an option?

(http://deskthority.net/w/images/1/15/G80-9013_209.jpg)
(http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/lysol8086/DSC01671_zps2eb788d4.jpg)

Title: Re: Any love for Down-Arrow Capslock?
Post by: TopreFan333 on Mon, 13 October 2014, 12:58:04

Seems counterintuitive to me. If "shift" is up, why would "shift lock" (or caps lock) be down? I could see some kind of double-arrow pointing up, though.

Title: Re: Any love for Down-Arrow Capslock?
Post by: jacobolus on Mon, 13 October 2014, 13:15:31

The caps lock key should be abolished altogether; it’s not worth worrying about its legend.

(Putting shift on a thumb key makes it easy enough to type extended passages in all caps when necessary, but better still is to have a command to capitalize the selected text, and just type normally, then at the end select and capitalize any extended block of text that needs to be all caps.)

If you really need a caps lock key, the little lock symbol is cute, or the up arrow with an extra rectangle at the bottom is fine ⇪ or ⇬.

In general though, just say no to modes.

Title: Re: Any love for Down-Arrow Capslock?
Post by: TopreFan333 on Mon, 13 October 2014, 13:23:44

Eh. I still find a reason to use it every once in a while and don't always feel like digging up whatever command is required to all-cap it in software. I agree it's in way too prominent a spot on the keyboard, though.

I might switch my own for something else, but then I'd be constantly adjusting to the other two keyboards (my laptop and work) that I can't swap keys on...

Title: Re: Any love for Down-Arrow Capslock?
Post by: bazh on Mon, 13 October 2014, 13:56:19

I love arrow, in a bag.

(http://i.imgur.com/4bPBX6W.jpg)

Title: Re: Any love for Down-Arrow Capslock?
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 13 October 2014, 13:58:28

Quote from: bazh on Mon, 13 October 2014, 13:56:19

I love arrow, in a bag.

Show Image

(http://i.imgur.com/4bPBX6W.jpg)

That one is great, but Shift Lock is still my favorite.

Title: Re: Any love for Down-Arrow Capslock?
Post by: 0100010 on Mon, 13 October 2014, 14:32:28

Quote from: bazh on Mon, 13 October 2014, 13:56:19

I love arrow, in a bag.

Show Image

(http://i.imgur.com/4bPBX6W.jpg)

Arrow in a bag - that's funny.  Yes, I prefer the up arrow in a lock myself.

Title: Re: Any love for Down-Arrow Capslock?
Post by: Findecanor on Mon, 13 October 2014, 14:45:05

How about the capital letter A on a padlock? That symbol is quite common next to the Caps Lock light.

Title: Re: Any love for Down-Arrow Capslock?
Post by: Karura on Mon, 13 October 2014, 17:11:53

This sure got derailed quick lol...

Title: Re: Any love for Down-Arrow Capslock?
Post by: jacobolus on Mon, 13 October 2014, 17:24:56

Quote from: Karura on Mon, 13 October 2014, 17:11:53

This sure got derailed quick lol...

How did it get derailed? We’re talking about preferred legends for caps lock.

Okay, I’ll give you a point-by-point:

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Hey just wondering how do people like the down arrow caps lock legend?

I don’t think it makes any sense

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I love how symmetric it looks with the shift key. How come it isn't more common?

It isn’t more common because it’s confusing. I’m pretty sure the down arrow was originally used on IBM data entry keyboards to mean something different. In any event, the lock, the double up arrow, and text legends are all much easier to interpret.

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Would you like to have it on your keyboard instead of "Caps lock" if it were an option?

No.

But again, it’s kind of irrelevant: caps lock is a total waste of a good key location, for a totally unnecessary function. If someone really needs caps lock, they should implement it via some mechanism like: (a) press and release one shift key and only the following character gets capitalized, (b) hold down a shift key and everything typed while shift is depressed gets capitalized, (c) press and release both shift keys and it turns on caps lock, with a press of either shift key turning it back off again. That way the function is available for someone who really needs it, but doesn’t waste a key.

Title: Re: Any love for Down-Arrow Capslock?
Post by: Karura on Mon, 13 October 2014, 17:31:23

Jacob, fair enough, your point by point clears it up!

I just thought you were going on hating the caps lock for some reason but it makes sense upon reading it more.

I was just more curious about how the Down-arrow came to existence, what it means, and how people actually like/dislike the legend itself.

Title: Re: Any love for Down-Arrow Capslock?
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 13 October 2014, 17:32:55

I vote yes to both the down-arrow AND the Caps Lock key in general.

Anybody else here code in SQL?  Caps lock is damn convenient for that stuff.

Code: [Select]

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Inner Join Queues ON Tickets.Queue = Queues.id
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AND
        Tickets.Subject NOT LIKE '%ACKNOWLEDGEMENT%'
AND
Tickets.Status NOT LIKE 'rejected'
AND
Tickets.Created >=  '2014-10-13 02:00:00'
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Tickets.Created <   '2014-10-20 02:00:00'
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 - Ron | samwisekoi

p.s.  I say NO to purses on my keyboard!

Title: Re: Which Capslock legend do you prefer and why?
Post by: bazh on Tue, 14 October 2014, 00:17:52

Yes, I always use it as control keys, such a waste with the capslock

Title: Re: Which Capslock legend do you prefer and why?
Post by: yasuo on Tue, 14 October 2014, 00:22:05

i like Keylock legend or "A" symbol
and LED on capslock nice too

Title: Re: Which Capslock legend do you prefer and why?
Post by: davkol on Tue, 14 October 2014, 06:34:10

Underlined arrow up (Apple, TypeMatrix), followed by arrow down (Cherry).

I don't have such a key on my keyboard though, and when I do, it's remapped to Backspace or Control.

Title: Re: Which Capslock legend do you prefer and why?
Post by: bueller on Tue, 14 October 2014, 07:00:38

Whichever one is on that particular GMK/Cherry set and I'm happy. In an ideal world I'd have a CTRL key in that spot but I don't ever see that happening with GMK's MOQ.

Title: Re: Which Capslock legend do you prefer and why?
Post by: oscillik on Tue, 14 October 2014, 08:00:15

I prefer this capslock legend

(http://i.imgur.com/ZVTKzg6.jpg)

Title: Re: Which Capslock legend do you prefer and why?
Post by: samwisekoi on Tue, 14 October 2014, 09:16:48

Quote from: oscillik on Tue, 14 October 2014, 08:00:15

I prefer this capslock legend

Show Image

(http://i.imgur.com/ZVTKzg6.jpg)

That is a really nice layout and keycap set -- what is it from?

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.

Title: Re: Which Capslock legend do you prefer and why?
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 14 October 2014, 09:21:49

Quote from: samwisekoi on Tue, 14 October 2014, 09:16:48

Quote from: oscillik on Tue, 14 October 2014, 08:00:15

I prefer this capslock legend

Show Image

(http://i.imgur.com/ZVTKzg6.jpg)

That is a really nice layout and keycap set -- what is it from?

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.

HHKB with their holiday set or whatever it was called.

Title: Re: Which Capslock legend do you prefer and why?
Post by: 3Love on Wed, 15 October 2014, 12:36:02

Nice lock

Title: Re: Which Capslock legend do you prefer and why?
Post by: Karura on Wed, 15 October 2014, 14:58:44

Okay, I guess judging from the feels in this thread, I must say the only solution is that.. CONTROL key for Capslock should be an option for more keysets!!

Another question for you Control-capslock loving people!!

Do you prefer a full-sized capslock-location Control, or do you prefer a stepped-half-size Control for it?

Title: Re: Which Capslock legend do you prefer and why?
Post by: pichu23 on Wed, 15 October 2014, 15:01:23

Dot in a bag ? R1 Raindrop had it. I think it's really nice looking.

Title: Re: Which Capslock legend do you prefer and why?
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 15 October 2014, 16:59:43

I still prefer the plain old "caps lock" caps lock

Title: Re: Which Capslock legend do you prefer and why?
Post by: oscillik on Wed, 15 October 2014, 17:21:27

Quote from: Karura on Wed, 15 October 2014, 14:58:44

Okay, I guess judging from the feels in this thread, I must say the only solution is that.. CONTROL key for Capslock should be an option for more keysets!!

Another question for you Control-capslock loving people!!

Do you prefer a full-sized capslock-location Control, or do you prefer a stepped-half-size Control for it?

I definitely prefer a full size keycap. can't be dealing with a stepped one. HHKB PC Master Race.

Title: Re: Which Capslock legend do you prefer and why?
Post by: epzy on Wed, 15 October 2014, 17:25:13

I prefer stepped caps locks with the 'caps lock' legend. Anything goes, though. :)

Title: Re: Which Capslock legend do you prefer and why?
Post by: user 18 on Wed, 15 October 2014, 17:26:32

Text legends. Always text legends.

Title: Re: Any love for Down-Arrow Capslock?
Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 15 October 2014, 18:15:28

Quote from: jacobolus on Mon, 13 October 2014, 13:15:31

If you really need a caps lock key, the little lock symbol is cute, or the up arrow with an extra rectangle at the bottom is fine ⇪ or ⇬.

+1

 :thumb:

Title: Re: Which Capslock legend do you prefer and why?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 16 October 2014, 10:22:21

They're all good.
(http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/lysol8086/DSC01644_zps08ee3778.jpg)

Title: Re: Which Capslock legend do you prefer and why?
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 16 October 2014, 10:49:13

Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 16 October 2014, 10:22:21

They're all good.

Show Image

(http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/lysol8086/DSC01644_zps08ee3778.jpg)

Oooo!  I like the Caps Lock/Shift Lock keycap.  That is a solution we rarely see,  Perfect for cartoon cursing!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.

Title: Re: Which Capslock legend do you prefer and why?
Post by: Cherry1990 on Thu, 16 October 2014, 14:16:13

I prefer the "Caps Lock" written. The clearest. ;)

Title: Re: Which Capslock legend do you prefer and why?
Post by: Karura on Fri, 17 October 2014, 05:21:09

Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 16 October 2014, 10:22:21

They're all good.

Show Image

(http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/lysol8086/DSC01644_zps08ee3778.jpg)

Gotta love the diversity.

Do you actually have any complete sets that utilize the shift lock? It's one that we really don't see so often.

Title: Re: Which Capslock legend do you prefer and why?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 17 October 2014, 11:36:46

Yes I do (or used to at one point) have all the sets those caps lock caps belonged to. I also have a few others that are not shown in that photo.

Title: Re: Which Capslock legend do you prefer and why?
Post by: engicoder on Fri, 17 October 2014, 11:56:00

I don't like caps lock at all, seems like a waste of a key...borrowing from some games, I would prefer double tap shift for caps lock and tap shift again to cancel.

Title: Re: Which Capslock legend do you prefer and why?
Post by: _PixelNinja on Fri, 17 October 2014, 12:24:47

I am with those who think that the Caps Lock key is not very useful. That being said, I prefer the legend to be in text, no logo.

Title: Re: Which Capslock legend do you prefer and why?
Post by: yasuo on Sat, 18 October 2014, 00:28:51

Quote from: engicoder on Fri, 17 October 2014, 11:56:00

I don't like caps lock at all, seems like a waste of a key...borrowing from some games, I would prefer double tap shift for caps lock and tap shift again to cancel.

em...datahand :rolleyes:

Title: Re: Which Capslock legend do you prefer and why?
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 18 October 2014, 03:10:36

For me the legend or icon is less important than having the colour that matches the rest of the modifiers.

Title: Re: Which Capslock legend do you prefer and why?
Post by: keyton on Sat, 18 October 2014, 09:38:47

Capslock