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Title: [IC] GMK Olivetti - R.I.P(canceled)
Post by: jonathanyu on Mon, 13 October 2014, 15:26:54
How many of you will be interested in Olivetti set?
Basically just like the set that sold by Originative in the past.
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Included:
Winkey Set
Winkey less modifier
ISO keys
1.75x shift
~`, |\ in modifiers color
Extra spacebar ;)

Depend on interest:
Blue on white F5-F8
A profile bottom row
Comparison of A profile and B profile:
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The one on the right hand side is A profile, the one on the left hand side is B profile

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I don't have the original Olivetti doubleshot, so I can't compare the original Olivetti doubleshot and the GMK Olivetti doubleshot.  But the color between the GMK Olivetti doubleshot and the original Olivetti PBT is quite different.  Which one do you guys like better?  (I am not sure GMK have the original one's color or not)
GMK color will be V4 on L9 for the alpha keys, and V4 on U9 for the modifiers keys.
Original color will be the color of original doubleshot. 
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(https://i.imgur.com/sXAxyeY.jpg)


Color comparison :
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Examples of original doubleshot:

(http://i.imgur.com/u7oSE.jpg)

(picture belongs to Tsangan)

(http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/lysol8086/olivetti_zpsab286e5a.jpg)

(Picture found on Google)

Sorry for the potatoes, I don't have a nice camera so I took these potatoes with my phone


And do you guys want windowed Caps Lock, Scroll Lock, and Num Lock?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti
Post by: feizor on Mon, 13 October 2014, 15:28:58
Yes!!!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 13 October 2014, 15:29:35
Any interested in this?

Me!  Is someone else planning it, though?  I thought I heard rumours, but maybe I'm going crazy.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti
Post by: bazh on Mon, 13 October 2014, 15:30:21
please slow down with all the GMK ****


my wallet can't take it :'(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti
Post by: scubaste on Mon, 13 October 2014, 15:32:09
I'm still bummed I missed out on the GMK Dolch, I'm not missing out on this. Count me in.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 13 October 2014, 15:32:21
GMK ****

Poor word choice!!  :P  :))
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti
Post by: jonathanyu on Mon, 13 October 2014, 15:33:23
Any interested in this?

Me!  Is someone else planning it, though?  I thought I heard rumours, but maybe I'm going crazy.
I have this idea for few months, but I have never heard someone else is planning it  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 13 October 2014, 15:34:34
Any interested in this?

Me!  Is someone else planning it, though?  I thought I heard rumours, but maybe I'm going crazy.
I have this idea for few months, but I have never heard someone else is planning it  :rolleyes:

I didn't mean to accuse!  I was just hoping that we wouldn't have conflicting GBs being planned.   :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti
Post by: Lastpilot on Mon, 13 October 2014, 15:37:09
I never say no to more GMK blue things.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti
Post by: bazh on Mon, 13 October 2014, 15:38:34
if you're planning a blue mods pack to go along with the traditional white/beige, I'm all over it, I'm still dreaming about GMK Raindrop everyday :p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti
Post by: Sent on Mon, 13 October 2014, 15:41:28
if you're planning a blue mods pack to go along with the traditional white/beige, I'm all over it, I'm still dreaming about GMK Raindrop everyday :p

This, so much.  I've always wanted a GMK Olivetti but seriously...we need to start spacing these buys out.  This is getting painful. :'(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti
Post by: bazh on Mon, 13 October 2014, 15:47:00
if you're planning a blue mods pack to go along with the traditional white/beige, I'm all over it, I'm still dreaming about GMK Raindrop everyday :p

This, so much.  I've always wanted a GMK Olivetti but seriously...we need to start spacing these buys out.  This is getting painful. :'(

I'm still wondering whether to go for feng's Cyan or wait for Ivan's Inverted Beige :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti
Post by: Wildcard on Mon, 13 October 2014, 15:50:02
As long as the tab key looks better, then I'm definitely in.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti
Post by: Flamingchook on Mon, 13 October 2014, 16:12:07
Well I'd definitely be in. I've got a  classifieds thread looking for a set right now.

Also white on blue mods would be incredible!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti
Post by: Orca on Mon, 13 October 2014, 16:21:19
imma in~  ;D

original~
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti
Post by: naasfu on Mon, 13 October 2014, 16:24:02
Definitely yes, please!

Does anyone have any pics of boards with the PBT version?  I think I prefer the lighter Originative GMK version, but it would be great to see some pics of these sets on boards for comparison.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti
Post by: jonathanyu on Mon, 13 October 2014, 16:31:15
Definitely yes, please!

Does anyone have any pics of boards with the PBT version?  I think I prefer the lighter Originative GMK version, but it would be great to see some pics of these sets on boards for comparison.

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This is the PBT version.

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti
Post by: ComradeSniper on Mon, 13 October 2014, 16:33:49
Totally in. I'd love a short right shift and 1x \| key for my Viper also.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti
Post by: bazh on Mon, 13 October 2014, 16:35:16
and also the CTRL keys
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti
Post by: jonathanyu on Mon, 13 October 2014, 16:46:56
Totally in. I'd love a short right shift and 1x \| key for my Viper also.
1x \| is in R3?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti
Post by: jonathanyu on Mon, 13 October 2014, 16:49:29
and also the CTRL keys
And Alt Gr right?  :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti
Post by: naasfu on Mon, 13 October 2014, 16:51:55
This is the PBT version.

edit:

Compare

Thanks!  I'm digging the beige of the GMK Originative mods much more than the normal grey PBT mods, and I also prefer GMK Originative's higher contrast difference between the alphas and mods.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti
Post by: tjweir on Mon, 13 October 2014, 17:31:57
Interested.

A white on blue Esc and Enter would be rad.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: TBone on Mon, 13 October 2014, 17:45:59
Would there be any color packs? Like inverted mods or something? That would be so awesome.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: pichu23 on Mon, 13 October 2014, 17:57:03
Another GMK...... My wallet... halp  :( :'(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: jonathanyu on Mon, 13 October 2014, 17:58:07
Would there be any color packs? Like inverted mods or something? That would be so awesome.
Something like raindrop mods?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 13 October 2014, 17:58:55
Would there be any color packs? Like inverted mods or something? That would be so awesome.

I don't think the same way. I prefer Olivetti as nothing more than blue on white. If you do weird color stuff to it, I start to hate it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: yicaoyimu on Mon, 13 October 2014, 18:22:31
If this happens, I'm in for at least two sets. Also, what white color are you planning using for this set? The originative set uses a white color with colder tone while the classic beige set is a warmer milky white. I prefer the milky white personally.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: Sent on Mon, 13 October 2014, 18:24:00
If this happens, I'm in for at least two sets. Also, what white color are you planning using for this set? The originative set uses a white color with colder tone while the classic beige set is a warmer milky white. I prefer the milky white personally.

I don't think the color's been decided yet.  Both of those options are in the IC form so you can choose what you want or enter another color option, I believe.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: phoenix1234 on Mon, 13 October 2014, 18:28:47
Yes, definitely Yes. I may need 2 sets.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: dante on Mon, 13 October 2014, 18:30:20
I'm still bummed I missed out on the GMK Dolch, I'm not missing out on this. Count me in.

I know I'm probably in the minority but I am so sick of seeing Dolch!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 13 October 2014, 18:33:44
I know I'm probably in the minority but I am so sick of seeing Dolch!
I'm wit' you
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: yicaoyimu on Mon, 13 October 2014, 18:34:59
If this happens, I'm in for at least two sets. Also, what white color are you planning using for this set? The originative set uses a white color with colder tone while the classic beige set is a warmer milky white. I prefer the milky white personally.

I don't think the color's been decided yet.  Both of those options are in the IC form so you can choose what you want or enter another color option, I believe.

I see. I need to read OP more carefully.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: jonathanyu on Mon, 13 October 2014, 18:38:52
If this happens, I'm in for at least two sets. Also, what white color are you planning using for this set? The originative set uses a white color with colder tone while the classic beige set is a warmer milky white. I prefer the milky white personally.
For the "GMK color", alpha keys would be V4 on L9, modifier keys would be V4 on U9
And I haven't decided the color for the "original color" yet
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: 3Love on Mon, 13 October 2014, 18:41:26
I think I have waited too long time. Is that true? :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 13 October 2014, 18:41:55
Would there be any color packs? Like inverted mods or something? That would be so awesome.

I don't think the same way. I prefer Olivetti as nothing more than blue on white. If you do weird color stuff to it, I start to hate it.

I prefer more options like Raindrop had, but I also want the buy to succeed, and I think the best way for that to happen is for minimal fragmentation.  If we make it real simple with one set we should have much better luck getting it to production.   :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: dante on Mon, 13 October 2014, 18:42:39
Does anyone know if GMK charges significantly less for blank keycaps?  I'm just curious how "low you can go" on a set of 60%/87 blanks.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 13 October 2014, 18:47:34
I had some plans on starting a GMK buy early next year and Olivetti was on the list of possible colour combos with both old and new W8 logos. Didn't want to start it late in the year since I know Christmas season is when everyone gets wallethacked. Didn't start anything yet, so no worries.

Does anyone know if GMK charges significantly less for blank keycaps?  I'm just curious how "low you can go" on a set of 60%/87 blanks.

Blanks & windowed keys have a minimum MOQ of 400 each to be produced. Don't ask me why for blanks, but that's how it is.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: dante on Mon, 13 October 2014, 18:49:46
Does anyone know if GMK charges significantly less for blank keycaps?  I'm just curious how "low you can go" on a set of 60%/87 blanks.

Blanks & windowed keys have a minimum MOQ of 400 each to be produced. Don't ask me why for blanks, but that's how it is.



Well that's silly!  But to my original question is there a big price decrease on blanks?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: naasfu on Mon, 13 October 2014, 18:54:43
And dumb question:  If we want this set to match other mod kits such as from the purple and CMYW GBs, we should vote No for "A Profile" for Question #2, right?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 13 October 2014, 18:55:43
And dumb question:  If we want this set to match other mod kits such as from the purple and CMYW GBs, we should vote No for "A Profile" for Question #2, right?
Correct.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: jonathanyu on Mon, 13 October 2014, 18:58:37
And dumb question:  If we want this set to match other mod kits such as from the purple and CMYW GBs, we should vote No for "A Profile" for Question #2, right?
That's right , purple amd CMYW mods have B profile bottom row
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: naasfu on Mon, 13 October 2014, 19:00:06
Great.  Thanks, guys.  I've filled out the form. :)

Please vote no on Proposition "A", haha.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: feizor on Mon, 13 October 2014, 19:00:42
space bars, we need lots of space bars!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: naasfu on Mon, 13 October 2014, 19:01:38
space bars, we need lots of space bars!

Yeah, we don't need to see people putting tape on their spacebars.  Ugh, terrible.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: jonathanyu on Mon, 13 October 2014, 19:11:58
space bars, we need lots of space bars!

Yeah, we don't need to see people putting tape on their spacebars.  Ugh, terrible.

Thanks for the reminder.  :p  I almost forgot that
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: bianco on Mon, 13 October 2014, 19:18:20
interested. submitted form.
hopefully, this gmk gb will have a symmetrical option for the ~` and |\ keys having the same color as the modifiers.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: Sent on Mon, 13 October 2014, 19:30:49
space bars, we need lots of space bars!

Every single time I join a GB now...I always order far more space bars than I'll ever need.  I didn't before and have regretted it forever.  Now, I'm paranoid as ****. :))
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti
Post by: ComradeSniper on Mon, 13 October 2014, 19:38:54
Totally in. I'd love a short right shift and 1x \| key for my Viper also.
1x \| is in R3?

It'd be on the number row, so that's R1 I think?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: Den441 on Mon, 13 October 2014, 19:42:51
I voted for simple modifiers, I think that and a color pack would be enough to differentiate it from past replica Olivetti sets. If that happens, I might be onboard.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: TBone on Mon, 13 October 2014, 19:48:46
Would there be any color packs? Like inverted mods or something? That would be so awesome.

I don't think the same way. I prefer Olivetti as nothing more than blue on white. If you do weird color stuff to it, I start to hate it.

I guess I'd be worried about fragmentation in the buy. We want MOQ. So I guess just an optional color pack would help, like in Dolch. That was a huge success and doesn't detract from the original set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: Sent on Mon, 13 October 2014, 19:54:24
Yup, optional color pack is what I suggested, as well.  Just a little something extra for those that want it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: bueller on Mon, 13 October 2014, 19:58:29
I really wish we could start doing some new stuff out of GMK instead of just repeating all the sets that Sherry has produced. There are so many options and all anyone ever talks about is re-pro's, am I the only one that wants to see GMK Red Alert of RainDrop? Or like 5 million other awesome combos.

*sigh*
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: Sent on Mon, 13 October 2014, 20:01:09
I really wish we could start doing some new stuff out of GMK instead of just repeating all the sets that Sherry has produced. There are so many options and all anyone ever talks about is re-pro's, am I the only one that wants to see GMK Red Alert of RainDrop? Or like 5 million other awesome combos.

*sigh*

You can look forward to GMK Hyperfuse, at least.  I agree, though.  I'm not even touching my Dolch set anymore because it's been beaten to death. :( 
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: bueller on Mon, 13 October 2014, 20:02:27
I really wish we could start doing some new stuff out of GMK instead of just repeating all the sets that Sherry has produced. There are so many options and all anyone ever talks about is re-pro's, am I the only one that wants to see GMK Red Alert of RainDrop? Or like 5 million other awesome combos.

*sigh*

You can look forward to GMK Hyperfuse, at least.  I agree, though.  I'm not even touching my Dolch set anymore because it's been beaten to death. :( 

That I am looking forward to. Will finally have a decent set of alphas to go with my purple mods!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 13 October 2014, 20:27:42
I really wish we could start doing some new stuff out of GMK instead of just repeating all the sets that Sherry has produced. There are so many options and all anyone ever talks about is re-pro's, am I the only one that wants to see GMK Red Alert of RainDrop? Or like 5 million other awesome combos.

*sigh*

My LZ needs GMK Red Alert...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: Elocutive on Mon, 13 October 2014, 20:37:46
I really wish we could start doing some new stuff out of GMK instead of just repeating all the sets that Sherry has produced. There are so many options and all anyone ever talks about is re-pro's, am I the only one that wants to see GMK Red Alert of RainDrop? Or like 5 million other awesome combos.

*sigh*
Completely agree. I think these look rather boring. Making something new and exciting.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: bueller on Mon, 13 October 2014, 20:51:33
I think this would struggle to meet MOQ as well, the Olivetti set was one of the least popular sets Sherry sold. I remember there still being sets of them available long after he sold out of his first run of Dolch and Classic Beige.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: phoenix1234 on Mon, 13 October 2014, 21:04:36
I think this would struggle to meet MOQ as well, the Olivetti set was one of the least popular sets Sherry sold. I remember there still being sets of them available long after he sold out of his first run of Dolch and Classic Beige.

I think otherwise. The set from Originative was selling slowly because it has a defect.
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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 13 October 2014, 21:16:06
sherry did a bunch of dumb things to his olivetti set, that's why nobody wanted it

if this was run with the proper legends it would probably do fine
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: bueller on Mon, 13 October 2014, 21:37:09
I think this would struggle to meet MOQ as well, the Olivetti set was one of the least popular sets Sherry sold. I remember there still being sets of them available long after he sold out of his first run of Dolch and Classic Beige.

I think otherwise. The set from Originative was selling slowly because it has a defect.
(Attachment Link)
The Classic Beige had the same problem and they still sold out well before the Olivetti.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 13 October 2014, 21:39:48
Wallet is die...
no....
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: phoenix1234 on Mon, 13 October 2014, 21:50:19
The Classic Beige had the same problem and they still sold out well before the Olivetti.
I think it is because the Classic Beige Tab (BOW Double shot) is easy to find the replacement so people don't mind to get the defect one and replace the ridiculous Tab with the one they have.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: Karura on Mon, 13 October 2014, 21:59:43
sherry did a bunch of dumb things to his olivetti set, that's why nobody wanted it

if this was run with the proper legends it would probably do fine

Just wondering, since I'm not so familliar with his set, what were the things he changed? Just so we don't make the same mistake.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: Karura on Mon, 13 October 2014, 22:00:10
I'm definitely in if you included Raindrop style modifiers.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: pmh1410 on Mon, 13 October 2014, 22:38:28
me too, i will take 2 sets if you made it ;)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: bazh on Tue, 14 October 2014, 00:13:50
I really wish we could start doing some new stuff out of GMK instead of just repeating all the sets that Sherry has produced. There are so many options and all anyone ever talks about is re-pro's, am I the only one that wants to see GMK Red Alert of RainDrop? Or like 5 million other awesome combos.

*sigh*

My LZ needs GMK Red Alert...

My LZ CE needs GMK Ragnarok :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: jonathanyu on Tue, 14 October 2014, 00:36:37
sherry did a bunch of dumb things to his olivetti set, that's why nobody wanted it

if this was run with the proper legends it would probably do fine

Just wondering, since I'm not so familliar with his set, what were the things he changed? Just so we don't make the same mistake.

(http://i.imgur.com/u7oSE.jpg)

(picture belongs to Tsangan)
This is the original ANSI doubleshot.  As you can see, Sherry/Orginative changed the Tab, Control, Print Screen, and Pause.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: jonathanyu on Tue, 14 October 2014, 00:52:52
I want this set happen in three pack, which is the base set, color pack, and spacebar.  Basically just like the recent GMK DOLCH.
The base set will be white alpha, beige/grey mods, blue legend.  Include Winkey Set, Winkey less modifier, ISO support keys, 1.75x shift.  Depend on interest, Blue on white F5-F8, and A profile bottom may be included.
Color pack I haven't decided the color and which keys yet.

Raindrop mods is not impossible but I think the only way to reach the MOQ is adding it to the base set, but the price will probably increase a lot.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: justnits on Tue, 14 October 2014, 01:27:22
i find that the colour combination of N5 on L9 and U9 seems more vibrant and pleasing to the eyes compared to V4.
but maybe because i'm personally hoping for this to change to GMK Raindrop and N5 is the best colour option for that  :p

also, the mods are going to be text or icon?
the following is my ideal modifier setup;-

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 14 October 2014, 01:40:19
interested. submitted form.
hopefully, this gmk gb will have a symmetrical option for the ~` and |\ keys having the same color as the modifiers.


+1

I also prefer the symmetrical look and I think many others do as well. Two extra keys shouldn't increase the costs of the set too much.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: user 18 on Tue, 14 October 2014, 01:41:14
Potentially interested.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: feizor on Tue, 14 October 2014, 01:51:45
Does the originative set use n5 or v4? Having a legend color too vibrant can lead to a loss of contrast. But I think the originative set got it just right.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: jonathanyu on Tue, 14 October 2014, 01:53:00
i find that the colour combination of N5 on L9 and U9 seems more vibrant and pleasing to the eyes compared to V4.
but maybe because i'm personally hoping for this to change to GMK Raindrop and N5 is the best colour option for that  :p

also, the mods are going to be text or icon?
the following is my ideal modifier setup;-
  • Icon mods - Tab, Capslock, Backspace, Enter, Winkey (Win8  :p :p :p)
  • Icon and/or text mod - Shift
  • Text mods - all the others

I actually haven't decided which blue for the legend yet.  V4 on L9 and U9 is the color combination of the GMK set that sold by Originative.  And N5 is the color of the blue enter, shift, arrow set, control, alt, and wasd that sold by elitekeyboards.  N5 is a lighter blue, which I think is closer to the original color.  But again, I don't have the original doubleshot, so I can't compare them

The mods will depend on the interest.  Winkey would probably be win 98 logo.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: jonathanyu on Tue, 14 October 2014, 01:57:30
Does the originative set use n5 or v4? Having a legend color too vibrant can lead to a loss of contrast. But I think the originative set got it just right.
Originative set use V4
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: justnits on Tue, 14 October 2014, 02:13:24
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i don't know what colour does the blue esc that i have is using (made by gmk) but it sure does looks like N5 to me and the Alt looks like V4.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: jonathanyu on Tue, 14 October 2014, 02:27:30
(Attachment Link)

i don't know what colour does the blue esc that i have is using (made by gmk) but it sure does looks like N5 to me and the Alt looks like V4.
You are right the blue Esc in your picture is N5 and alt is V4.  And the RGBY is using V4.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: whentheclouds on Tue, 14 October 2014, 03:31:47
...GMK Raindrop and N5 is the best colour option for that  :p
surely you mean V4? N5 is a very weak blue, whereas the Raindrop set looks just like V4 blue

(http://i.imgur.com/MbfLpDC.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: naasfu on Tue, 14 October 2014, 03:58:33
In case anyone is interested, I found a couple of good quality pics of the previous Originative Olivetti set.

Pics by Hyde (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44299.0)
Pics by DanGWanG (http://dangwang.wordpress.com/2013/06/16/originative-american/)

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: feizor on Tue, 14 October 2014, 04:12:09
How did Sherry price his GMK sets so much lower than the GB prices we are seeing now? His sets $95+shipping? Now GMK GBs are priced around $110-$120.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: justnits on Tue, 14 October 2014, 04:31:00
...GMK Raindrop and N5 is the best colour option for that  :p
surely you mean V4? N5 is a very weak blue, whereas the Raindrop set looks just like V4 blue

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/MbfLpDC.png)


N5 is very close to a darker shade of royal blue.
i think raindrop is in between N5 and V4, picture quality and monitor calibration can be deceiving.
i don't have my raindrop with me at my office. when i get home, i'll put them side by side for comparison :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: lionblinds on Tue, 14 October 2014, 05:40:49
I may need 2 sets.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 14 October 2014, 05:41:02
How did Sherry price his GMK sets so lower than the GB prices we are seeing now? His sets $95+shipping? Now GMK GBs are priced around $110-$120.


Because you only get a TKL set for 95$.

Ivan's GB for example includes a numpad, a Tsangan kit and full ISO support.

If you buy all these keys from Sherry you'll pay ~160$.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: justnits on Tue, 14 October 2014, 06:02:53
(Attachment Link)
...GMK Raindrop and N5 is the best colour option for that  :p
surely you mean V4? N5 is a very weak blue, whereas the Raindrop set looks just like V4 blue

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/MbfLpDC.png)




i don't know what colour does the blue esc that i have is using (made by gmk) but it sure does looks like N5 to me and the Alt looks like V4.
You are right the blue Esc in your picture is N5 and alt is V4.  And the RGBY is using V4.

as promised, here's a comparison picture of the different shades of blue.
(http://i.imgur.com/jJ2JAfBl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/jJ2JAfB.jpg)
From left: GMK Blue ESC (N5), SP Raindrop R2 (BFP), GMK Blue RGB Alt (V4)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: whentheclouds on Tue, 14 October 2014, 06:16:28
thanks for the photo. you're right, N5 is a lot closer tonally to the Raindrop blue than the V4, which veers towards a dark blue/purple shade
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: Photekq on Tue, 14 October 2014, 06:21:01
I think you're gonna have problems doing A profile in the main set. Some people will want B-profile 1.5 keys too, so you'd have to do :

full 1.25x b-profile bottom row
1.5x + 1x b-profile keys
full 1.5x/1x a-profile bottom row

That's a lot of keys if you include ISO, windowed locks, 1.75x etc.

I think it's best to do a 'main set' and an 'extra set'. Just my thoughts :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: feizor on Tue, 14 October 2014, 06:30:02
How did Sherry price his GMK sets so lower than the GB prices we are seeing now? His sets $95+shipping? Now GMK GBs are priced around $110-$120.


Because you only get a TKL set for 95$.

Ivan's GB for example includes a numpad, a Tsangan kit and full ISO support.

If you buy all these keys from Sherry you'll pay ~160$.

Touche
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: Jokrik on Tue, 14 October 2014, 07:16:49
Any chance for extra caps for 1800 layout?
like 1x "0" and the 1x "+" , I really need GMK stuff for my lightsaver and I know some people too
I've never seen GMK stuff for that though
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: bazh on Tue, 14 October 2014, 08:16:26
If I remember right Ivan's Dolch has 1x 0 key
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 14 October 2014, 09:11:32
If I remember right Ivan's Dolch has 1x 0 key

It does.  1x 0, 1x 00, 2x 0.   :thumb: 
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: Lurch on Tue, 14 October 2014, 09:13:50
GMK? I'm in.

Formed filled out! So many questions! :confused: :p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: jonathanyu on Tue, 14 October 2014, 10:17:34
I think you're gonna have problems doing A profile in the main set. Some people will want B-profile 1.5 keys too, so you'd have to do :

full 1.25x b-profile bottom row
1.5x + 1x b-profile keys
full 1.5x/1x a-profile bottom row

That's a lot of keys if you include ISO, windowed locks, 1.75x etc.

I think it's best to do a 'main set' and an 'extra set'. Just my thoughts :cool:
That's what I am thinking too, because included A profile in the main set would probably bring up the price a lot.  But I am afraid it couldn't reach the moq if separate it from the main set.  But yeah, it will depend on the price
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 14 October 2014, 10:25:14
Any hhkb support?

Will text be included on the enter, backspace, and shift keys?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: radio_killah on Tue, 14 October 2014, 10:41:26
Filled out an interest check!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: jonathanyu on Tue, 14 October 2014, 10:41:49
Any hhkb support?

Will text be included on the enter, backspace, and shift keys?
HHKB layout need 2 1x r4,  1.75 right shift, and 1 1x r3 right?

The legend on the modifiers keys will depend on the interest
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 14 October 2014, 10:52:28
I think if do a repro, should do full repro with the original all caps legends, all white function row, and etc.
As far as A profile, well there is minimal extra needed for that. You would need an extra 3 arrows and numpad 0 numpad enter. 1.5 mods only in A and that would be a must if using the all caps CTRL since it is only available in A.
Proper colors would be N5/CP N5/U9.
Have an extra color pack for the N5/U9 4 F keys, ~` and \| then maybe some other select keys in CP/V4 like wasd, cursors, or whatever.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: geniekid on Tue, 14 October 2014, 11:18:54
Any hhkb support?

Will text be included on the enter, backspace, and shift keys?
HHKB layout need 2 1x r4,  1.75 right shift, and 1 1x r3 right?

The legend on the modifiers keys will depend on the interest

HHKB will need:
The bottom row of the HHKB is somewhat ambiguous due to the number of ways it can be configured via dip switches.  I think as long as you have some semblance of a Tsangan kit people will deal.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: Blackehart on Tue, 14 October 2014, 11:39:23
interested!

Form filled!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 14 October 2014, 11:40:29
Any hhkb support?

Will text be included on the enter, backspace, and shift keys?
HHKB layout need 2 1x r4,  1.75 right shift, and 1 1x r3 right?

The legend on the modifiers keys will depend on the interest

HHKB will need:
  • R1 1x \|
  • R2 1.5x Del/Bksp
  • R3 1.75x Ctrl
  • R4 1.75x R-shift and 1x Fn
The bottom row of the HHKB is somewhat ambiguous due to the number of ways it can be configured via dip switches.  I think as long as you have some semblance of a Tsangan kit people will deal.
^ This.

Hopefully, enough people agree.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: dakuzo on Tue, 14 October 2014, 11:44:57
I'm in for this. Form has been filled.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: jonathanyu on Tue, 14 October 2014, 11:56:38
added aome pictue for comparison
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: TBone on Tue, 14 October 2014, 13:33:46
I think if do a repro, should do full repro with the original all caps legends, all white function row, and etc.
As far as A profile, well there is minimal extra needed for that. You would need an extra 3 arrows and numpad 0 numpad enter. 1.5 mods only in A and that would be a must if using the all caps CTRL since it is only available in A.
Proper colors would be N5/CP N5/U9.
Have an extra color pack for the N5/U9 4 F keys, ~` and \| then maybe some other select keys in CP/V4 like wasd, cursors, or whatever.

^^^ This!  :D I think if we're not doing an entirely original set, let's actually do a replica (minus the A row unless that's an add-on pack).

Color pack: N5/U9 4 F row, ~`, \|, and windows 7/8 keys. CP/V4 Esc and Enter. Also maybe N5/U9 or CP/V4 CODE or some unique double shot keys, similar to Ivan's JOKER key with Dolch. Also maybe include F and J keys with nubs here (will keep cost down on base). Also V4 space bars?  :p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 14 October 2014, 13:37:55
After seeing the comparison pics I strongly prefer the Original PBT color combination over Sherry's GMK set.

Please change my vote if you can :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: findingthelimit on Tue, 14 October 2014, 16:12:16
Does winkey mean it will include 1.25 modifiers?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: Vintage on Tue, 14 October 2014, 17:04:37
Very cool. Interested!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: TBone on Tue, 14 October 2014, 17:09:59
The mods will depend on the interest.  Winkey would probably be win 98 logo.

Will this be pad printed or double-shot? And what color(s)?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 14 October 2014, 17:28:43
I think if do a repro, should do full repro with the original all caps legends, all white function row, and etc.
As far as A profile, well there is minimal extra needed for that. You would need an extra 3 arrows and numpad 0 numpad enter. 1.5 mods only in A and that would be a must if using the all caps CTRL since it is only available in A.
Proper colors would be N5/CP N5/U9.
Have an extra color pack for the N5/U9 4 F keys, ~` and \| then maybe some other select keys in CP/V4 like wasd, cursors, or whatever.

Is that really the original Cherry Olivetti DS colour codes?

I'm looking at this picture, and it looks closer to 2B/V4 & 2M/V4
(http://cdn.keypuller.com/2014/07/olivetti.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: jonathanyu on Tue, 14 October 2014, 19:03:45
I think if do a repro, should do full repro with the original all caps legends, all white function row, and etc.
As far as A profile, well there is minimal extra needed for that. You would need an extra 3 arrows and numpad 0 numpad enter. 1.5 mods only in A and that would be a must if using the all caps CTRL since it is only available in A.
Proper colors would be N5/CP N5/U9.
Have an extra color pack for the N5/U9 4 F keys, ~` and \| then maybe some other select keys in CP/V4 like wasd, cursors, or whatever.
Thank you Ivan  :)
Actually most people voted for original color and yes for A profile, but I will wait till this weekend or the next weekend to see the interest of it. 
Adding A profile would be additional 19 keys(7 1.25x, 4 1.5x, 1 2x, 1 enter 6 1x for winkey, arrows, and .(del) )  Do you know how much would that increase the price?
From what I see from difference pictures, I think the color for the modifiers keys are closer to 2B or CC.  But I don't have the original one, so I can't get a good comparison.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 14 October 2014, 19:10:00
I think if do a repro, should do full repro with the original all caps legends, all white function row, and etc.
As far as A profile, well there is minimal extra needed for that. You would need an extra 3 arrows and numpad 0 numpad enter. 1.5 mods only in A and that would be a must if using the all caps CTRL since it is only available in A.
Proper colors would be N5/CP N5/U9.
Have an extra color pack for the N5/U9 4 F keys, ~` and \| then maybe some other select keys in CP/V4 like wasd, cursors, or whatever.
Thank you Ivan  :)
Actually most people voted for original color and yes for A profile, but I will wait till this weekend or the next weekend to see the interest of it. 
Adding A profile would be additional 19 keys(7 1.25x, 4 1.5x, 1 2x, 1 enter 6 1x for winkey, arrows, and .(del) )  Do you know how much would that increase the price?
From what I see from difference pictures, I think the color for the modifiers keys are closer to 2B or CC.  But I don't have the original one, so I can't get a good comparison.

I was also on the fence with 2B or CC for modifiers, but from the pictures I saw, I think it's 2B. Still hard to tell without having the real thing on hand.

Here's the picture I took of the following keys. Attempted at making the colours as accurate as possible, so the pad printed letters look funny. V4 Blue's hard to capture correctly, since lighting can have a really big difference on the appearance.
(http://puu.sh/ccyNs/72b65943fe.png)

Blah, I can't make up my mind. Hard to tell which keys are which, especially when the alphas seem to yellow overtime. Tsangan's pic makes it look like 3K+V4 and a mix of CC/2B :s
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: jonathanyu on Tue, 14 October 2014, 19:10:41
I think if do a repro, should do full repro with the original all caps legends, all white function row, and etc.
As far as A profile, well there is minimal extra needed for that. You would need an extra 3 arrows and numpad 0 numpad enter. 1.5 mods only in A and that would be a must if using the all caps CTRL since it is only available in A.
Proper colors would be N5/CP N5/U9.
Have an extra color pack for the N5/U9 4 F keys, ~` and \| then maybe some other select keys in CP/V4 like wasd, cursors, or whatever.

Is that really the original Cherry Olivetti DS colour codes?

I'm looking at this picture, and it looks closer to 2B/V4 & 2M/V4
Show Image
(http://cdn.keypuller.com/2014/07/olivetti.jpg)

This looks like V4/CC or 2B, and V4/CP or 3K or 2M or L9.... Can't really tell which one.


(http://i.imgur.com/u7oSE.jpg)

But in this picture, it looks like N5/U9 or 2B and N5/2M or L9
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: jonathanyu on Tue, 14 October 2014, 19:13:01
The mods will depend on the interest.  Winkey would probably be win 98 logo.

Will this be pad printed or double-shot? And what color(s)?
Win 98 logo will be pad printed.  Color will be blue(color of legend) on beige/grey(color of modifiers)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: jonathanyu on Tue, 14 October 2014, 19:14:22
Does winkey mean it will include 1.25 modifiers?
Winkey includes 1.25x modifiers, and Winkeyless includes 1.5x modifiers
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: jonathanyu on Tue, 14 October 2014, 20:22:40
I think if do a repro, should do full repro with the original all caps legends, all white function row, and etc.
As far as A profile, well there is minimal extra needed for that. You would need an extra 3 arrows and numpad 0 numpad enter. 1.5 mods only in A and that would be a must if using the all caps CTRL since it is only available in A.
Proper colors would be N5/CP N5/U9.
Have an extra color pack for the N5/U9 4 F keys, ~` and \| then maybe some other select keys in CP/V4 like wasd, cursors, or whatever.
Thank you Ivan  :)
Actually most people voted for original color and yes for A profile, but I will wait till this weekend or the next weekend to see the interest of it. 
Adding A profile would be additional 19 keys(7 1.25x, 4 1.5x, 1 2x, 1 enter 6 1x for winkey, arrows, and .(del) )  Do you know how much would that increase the price?
From what I see from difference pictures, I think the color for the modifiers keys are closer to 2B or CC.  But I don't have the original one, so I can't get a good comparison.

I was also on the fence with 2B or CC for modifiers, but from the pictures I saw, I think it's 2B. Still hard to tell without having the real thing on hand.

Here's the picture I took of the following keys. Attempted at making the colours as accurate as possible, so the pad printed letters look funny. V4 Blue's hard to capture correctly, since lighting can have a really big difference on the appearance.
Show Image
(http://puu.sh/ccyNs/72b65943fe.png)


Blah, I can't make up my mind. Hard to tell which keys are which, especially when the alphas seem to yellow overtime. Tsangan's pic makes it look like 3K+V4 and a mix of CC/2B :s

Thanks for the color comparison!  :)  Will you able to take picture of N5 next to 2B and 2M too?

(http://i.imgur.com/RJWhk.jpg)
(Picture belongs to Tsangan)

The bottom of the keycaps should be no yellow or shine.  I think the alpha would be L9/2M, and the legend would be N5.  I am not sure about the modifiers color, but it doesn't look like U9 to me.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 15 October 2014, 00:57:40
If you make set like how I did Dolch, the A profile stuff would only be maybe a few EUR more since you only 'need' 1 set of 1.5 mods... then you need the 6 (or 8 if you want 1x extras for winkeys) bottom row in A for the cursors and numpad. Only 1, 1.5 and 2 are available in A so anything else is a non issue.

It's defineatly not CC since that is Dolch alphas color. 2B is a colder shade... I suppose you could go either way colder or warmer U9. 2M is definitely too cold, Olivetti doulbeshots alphas are much warmer 'white'. None of GMK stock colors are probably perfect, they don't have as large of palette as Cherry used to offer. So it's down to picking the best choice of what is available.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: DzyDzyDino on Wed, 15 October 2014, 10:45:35
Yes, I'd love this. (And a Beige/two-tone set ;))
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: Karura on Thu, 16 October 2014, 01:29:09
Just deducing from what Ivan said, I'm wondering if space bars only have one profile, and it's all the other keys that have the choice between A and B?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: jonathanyu on Thu, 16 October 2014, 02:08:47
If you make set like how I did Dolch, the A profile stuff would only be maybe a few EUR more since you only 'need' 1 set of 1.5 mods... then you need the 6 (or 8 if you want 1x extras for winkeys) bottom row in A for the cursors and numpad. Only 1, 1.5 and 2 are available in A so anything else is a non issue.

It's defineatly not CC since that is Dolch alphas color. 2B is a colder shade... I suppose you could go either way colder or warmer U9. 2M is definitely too cold, Olivetti doulbeshots alphas are much warmer 'white'. None of GMK stock colors are probably perfect, they don't have as large of palette as Cherry used to offer. So it's down to picking the best choice of what is available.
From the picture GMK just sent me, I think U9 is the closest color to the original one.  L9 looks like the "warmest white" GMK offer, but not as "warm" as the original.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form
Post by: jonathanyu on Thu, 16 October 2014, 02:14:32
Just deducing from what Ivan said, I'm wondering if space bars only have one profile, and it's all the other keys that have the choice between A and B?
As far as I know, space bars have only one profile.  Only bottom row will have A or B profile.  FYI, A profile bottom is the profile of OG Cherry dyesub, old Cherry doubleshot, BSP pbt.  B profile is the profile of most modern keyboard.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: findingthelimit on Fri, 24 October 2014, 18:28:01
The interest for this set is much lower than I expected :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: jonathanyu on Fri, 24 October 2014, 22:57:28
The interest for this set is much lower than I expected :(
:( yeah, it is much lower than I expected too, there are less than 100 people filled out the interest from  :'(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: dakuzo on Fri, 24 October 2014, 23:07:37
The interest for this set is much lower than I expected :(
:( yeah, it is much lower than I expected too, there are less than 100 people filled out the interest from  :'(

ouch  :'(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: feizor on Sat, 25 October 2014, 03:59:06
Guess it's not happening?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: bazh on Sat, 25 October 2014, 04:13:46
that was kind of normal with a GMK group buy, it takes months to meet the MoQ..
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: phearboner on Sat, 25 October 2014, 08:26:14
What's the moq usually I'm so interested in this set :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: Signature on Sat, 25 October 2014, 08:28:41
What's the moq usually I'm so interested in this set :(
I think around 250
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 25 October 2014, 08:43:16
The interest for this set is much lower than I expected :(
:( yeah, it is much lower than I expected too, there are less than 100 people filled out the interest from  :'(

I don't think 100 people filling out the form is too bad.

People are lazy and might skip this part, others don't even check the IC forum.

I think you should just start the GB and see what happens. Go with Ivans example for a fullsize kit and add the "`~" and "\|" keys in both colors so people can chose between classic and symmetrical look.

(http://i.imgur.com/QbptGG8.png)

The only real question is whether to go with icon only mods or the icon + text mods (I prefer the latter)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: radio_killah on Sat, 25 October 2014, 09:47:58
Would it be a problem though that Feng is also running a GMK buy right now? The white and cyan one? That could be a possible reason why people are holding off on the olivetti. Feng is also running the buy in China so his MOQ here is only 50 as well.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: terrpn on Sat, 25 October 2014, 10:27:40
filled out form.............

windowed keys would be nice
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 25 October 2014, 12:45:07
I'll also be launching a new one in the next couple week. Maybe we need to all start working together and make some kind of release schedule so there isn't too many happening in the same period.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: geniekid on Sat, 25 October 2014, 12:46:02
Maybe we need to all start working together and make some kind of release schedule so there isn't too many happening in the same period.

 :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: whentheclouds on Sat, 25 October 2014, 13:32:33
quick recap: when Feng's GB ends this month, Ivan's reverse beige and CtrlAlt's GMK Hyperfuse will start. then we have the currently ongoing Olivetti and Klaxon ICs, along with the unannounced set from CtrlAlt. not to mention the manly unicorn IC, or the guy who posted two Olivetti designs here last week (what happened to him anyway?)

as cool as the possibility of choices are, i think at one point overlap will occur for sure
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 25 October 2014, 13:43:12
Sure some overlap is OK from time to time. I'm mostly just meaning so there isn't 5 sets launching at once so none of them make MOQ. There are only so many members which have bank accounts big enough for that kind of madness. Having each one start a month or two apart would probably be best for most people.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: radio_killah on Sat, 25 October 2014, 14:12:20
I'll also be launching a new one in the next couple week. Maybe we need to all start working together and make some kind of release schedule so there isn't too many happening in the same period.
That would be wonderful.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: phearboner on Sat, 25 October 2014, 14:34:26
I agree with Ivan. I'm interested in fengs, Ivan's and your GB!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: jonathanyu on Sun, 26 October 2014, 15:35:45
Sure some overlap is OK from time to time. I'm mostly just meaning so there isn't 5 sets launching at once so none of them make MOQ. There are only so many members which have bank accounts big enough for that kind of madness. Having each one start a month or two apart would probably be best for most people.
I agree, I think one month between every group buy would be good.  GMK said they will ship the color ring to me in few weeks, so I think I will probably start the group buy in end of December or January depend on other groupbuy's time
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: yicaoyimu on Tue, 28 October 2014, 11:33:26
I agree with Ivan too. And reverse beige is happening? I'm super excited! I can finally get a new BoW complete set and put my used G80-1838HPU away. Well, if we meet MOQ, of course.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: radio_killah on Tue, 28 October 2014, 12:46:16
So I really want a GMK set that can fit a HHKB layout.. Would that be possible? Most importantly the 1.5 delete and the 1.75 control.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: Motan22 on Wed, 29 October 2014, 03:08:18
So I really want a GMK set that can fit a HHKB layout.. Would that be possible? Most importantly the 1.5 delete and the 1.75 control.


Ivan's Dolch set includes a 1.5 delete and 1.75 control in the colour pack, providing you don't mind the splash of cyan and backspace symbol used.

I would most certainly like to see more GMK sets include these two keys though. I think the additional interest and help in meeting the MOQ from including these would probably outweigh the cost of two extra keys. Especially at a time were a lot of people are receiving their Duck Viper in the post.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: bueller on Wed, 29 October 2014, 03:27:58
Can I ask why you are set on pushing this to a GB stage when you haven't even got 100 people interested? Having so many GMK GB's all happening around the same time is going to hurt all of the GB's, it fragments the buyers and then none of them meet MOQ.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: radio_killah on Wed, 29 October 2014, 11:36:14
So I really want a GMK set that can fit a HHKB layout.. Would that be possible? Most importantly the 1.5 delete and the 1.75 control.


Ivan's Dolch set includes a 1.5 delete and 1.75 control in the colour pack, providing you don't mind the splash of cyan and backspace symbol used.

I would most certainly like to see more GMK sets include these two keys though. I think the additional interest and help in meeting the MOQ from including these would probably outweigh the cost of two extra keys. Especially at a time were a lot of people are receiving their Duck Viper in the post.

Only if I could get a set! I would buy one in a heart beat!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: Blackehart on Wed, 29 October 2014, 13:12:01
Well, at least I now know where my Xmas bonus is going: GMK!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: bazh on Wed, 29 October 2014, 13:33:29
quick recap: when Feng's GB ends this month, Ivan's reverse beige and CtrlAlt's GMK Hyperfuse will start. then we have the currently ongoing Olivetti and Klaxon ICs, along with the unannounced set from CtrlAlt. not to mention the manly unicorn IC, or the guy who posted two Olivetti designs here last week (what happened to him anyway?)

as cool as the possibility of choices are, i think at one point overlap will occur for sure

I really doubt the Manly Unicorn would make it anyway
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: Motan22 on Wed, 29 October 2014, 16:47:59
So I really want a GMK set that can fit a HHKB layout.. Would that be possible? Most importantly the 1.5 delete and the 1.75 control.


Ivan's Dolch set includes a 1.5 delete and 1.75 control in the colour pack, providing you don't mind the splash of cyan and backspace symbol used.

I would most certainly like to see more GMK sets include these two keys though. I think the additional interest and help in meeting the MOQ from including these would probably outweigh the cost of two extra keys. Especially at a time were a lot of people are receiving their Duck Viper in the post.

Only if I could get a set! I would buy one in a heart beat!

Don't quote me on this, but I would imagine that Ctrl Alt's GMK Hyperfuse will likely have the required keys for HHKB layout so that is one for you to look out for.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: radio_killah on Wed, 29 October 2014, 16:58:54
So I really want a GMK set that can fit a HHKB layout.. Would that be possible? Most importantly the 1.5 delete and the 1.75 control.


Ivan's Dolch set includes a 1.5 delete and 1.75 control in the colour pack, providing you don't mind the splash of cyan and backspace symbol used.

I would most certainly like to see more GMK sets include these two keys though. I think the additional interest and help in meeting the MOQ from including these would probably outweigh the cost of two extra keys. Especially at a time were a lot of people are receiving their Duck Viper in the post.

Only if I could get a set! I would buy one in a heart beat!

Don't quote me on this, but I would imagine that Ctrl Alt's GMK Hyperfuse will likely have the required keys for HHKB layout so that is one for you to look out for.
Already planning on getting that either way haha. But yeah I'm sure ctrl alt with come through to cover any layout. It just will cost a bit more.

But I want this set too I'm just hoping I can get the required keys for that hhkb layout. Either way I'll be down for this gb.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: whentheclouds on Wed, 29 October 2014, 17:11:30
did jonathan clarify whether this will be Raindrop or Olivetti? i like both but Raindrop seems to have a better chance of making MOQ imo
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: b7ad on Wed, 29 October 2014, 18:24:03
If this would be a set as complete as Ivan's Dolch I'd be in for at least 2 sets
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: Karura on Wed, 29 October 2014, 18:53:10
did jonathan clarify whether this will be Raindrop or Olivetti? i like both but Raindrop seems to have a better chance of making MOQ imo

+1
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: jonathanyu on Thu, 30 October 2014, 17:13:35
did jonathan clarify whether this will be Raindrop or Olivetti? i like both but Raindrop seems to have a better chance of making MOQ imo

+1
Olivetti

Can I ask why you are set on pushing this to a GB stage when you haven't even got 100 people interested? Having so many GMK GB's all happening around the same time is going to hurt all of the GB's, it fragments the buyers and then none of them meet MOQ.

Right now there are a little above 100 people filled out the interested form, and just like what LechnerDE said, I think many people don't fill in the interest form and don't check the interest checks forum often.  And for the time of the groupbuy of this set, it will all depend on other GMK group buy, so the overlap of this group buy and other  GMK group buy will be as little as possible, so it will have less affect to other group buy.

So I really want a GMK set that can fit a HHKB layout.. Would that be possible? Most importantly the 1.5 delete and the 1.75 control.

This two keys would probably in the color pack. I want to keep the base set as simple as possible.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: findingthelimit on Thu, 30 October 2014, 17:36:51
Honestly, I think the optimal way to keep everyone interested is to stick to the original layout (i.e. text modifiers, white f5-f8, etc).

I personally prefer unconventional layouts, but I believe that people like me would buy the set even if the layout is traditional, whereas perfectionists may stray away from Olivetti if it does not look like "original Olivetti".
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: radio_killah on Thu, 30 October 2014, 18:16:43
did jonathan clarify whether this will be Raindrop or Olivetti? i like both but Raindrop seems to have a better chance of making MOQ imo

+1
Olivetti

Can I ask why you are set on pushing this to a GB stage when you haven't even got 100 people interested? Having so many GMK GB's all happening around the same time is going to hurt all of the GB's, it fragments the buyers and then none of them meet MOQ.

Right now there are a little above 100 people filled out the interested form, and just like what LechnerDE said, I think many people don't fill in the interest form and don't check the interest checks forum often.  And for the time of the groupbuy of this set, it will all depend on other GMK group buy, so the overlap of this group buy and other  GMK group buy will be as little as possible, so it will have less affect to other group buy.

So I really want a GMK set that can fit a HHKB layout.. Would that be possible? Most importantly the 1.5 delete and the 1.75 control.

This two keys would probably in the color pack. I want to keep the base set as simple as possible.
That's no problem! As long as those keys are in a set offered by this group buy I'm in.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: geniekid on Fri, 31 October 2014, 13:06:30
So I really want a GMK set that can fit a HHKB layout.. Would that be possible? Most importantly the 1.5 delete and the 1.75 control.

This two keys would probably in the color pack. I want to keep the base set as simple as possible.
:thumb: Please also keep in mind that a 1x R1 \| is needed for the HHKB layout.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: Sygaldry on Tue, 11 November 2014, 18:36:47
Filled out interest form. Need keys for my HHKB layout board but I'm not sure what row these keys are...

1.75u Control to replace standard CapsLock
1.75u Right Shift to replace standard 2.75u Right Shift
1.5u BS/Del to replace ANSI \| key
1u \| key to replace standard ANSI BS key
1u `~ key to replace standard ANSI BS key
1u FN key to place next to 1.75u Right Shift
1u Alt key for bottom row
1.5u Super key for bottom row

Will buy if all are made available!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: Karura on Wed, 12 November 2014, 05:49:17
Filled out interest form. Need keys for my HHKB layout board but I'm not sure what row these keys are...

1.75u Control to replace standard CapsLock
1.75u Right Shift to replace standard 2.75u Right Shift
1.5u BS/Del to replace ANSI \| key
1u \| key to replace standard ANSI BS key
1u `~ key to replace standard ANSI BS key
1u FN key to place next to 1.75u Right Shift
1u Alt key for bottom row
1.5u Super key for bottom row

Will buy if all are made available!
Don't 1u `~ come in normal sets already? It's in the top left.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 12 November 2014, 06:23:35
1u Alt key for bottom row
1.5u Super key for bottom row
Do you, as someone who will be using HHKB layout, think these two are necessary? I'm not a HHKB guy so I'm curious. Would 1x winkeys + 1.5x controls/alts not be good enough?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: margo baggins on Wed, 12 November 2014, 06:41:49
1u Alt key for bottom row
1.5u Super key for bottom row
Do you, as someone who will be using HHKB layout, think these two are necessary? I'm not a HHKB guy so I'm curious. Would 1x winkeys + 1.5x controls/alts not be good enough?

Depends how much you want the correct legend on the keycap
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 14 November 2014, 16:48:20
1u Alt key for bottom row
1.5u Super key for bottom row
Do you, as someone who will be using HHKB layout, think these two are necessary? I'm not a HHKB guy so I'm curious. Would 1x winkeys + 1.5x controls/alts not be good enough?

Depends how much you want the correct legend on the keycap

Yep.  :P

Personally, I'd rather have blank caps on the bottom row than to have them be swapped.  Normally I prefer legends of some sort to a random blank key, but in this case it would just make the entire bottom row blank which is pretty okay.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: radio_killah on Fri, 14 November 2014, 17:44:03
Well how much more expensive would it be to have that hhkb layout compatibility?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: tribade on Fri, 14 November 2014, 18:13:02
Definitely interested.  Would really like HHKB compatibility as well.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 15 November 2014, 10:45:28
Having a pair each of 1, 1.25 and 1.5 blank wouldn't be bad. Those can be useful stand in for other thing like Fn, Caps Lock (if there is row C Control), Command, etc. 1u Ctrl and Alt/Alt Gr could be useful for some other keyboards too.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: sorijealut on Sun, 16 November 2014, 20:58:55
I'm really hoping I could buy this set as my first keycap set!

So please let this happen! :))
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: cooldiscretion on Thu, 04 December 2014, 01:23:43
I'm in
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: rpeterclark on Thu, 04 December 2014, 06:54:27
Very interested! Filled out the form.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: cooldiscretion on Fri, 05 December 2014, 12:10:37
This may have been asked before, but can someone educate me more on the A profile bottom row?  Is there some merit to having a slightly
taller keycap?  Also, did the recent GMK Dolch keyset have an A-Profile bottom row?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 05 December 2014, 12:17:53
This may have been asked before, but can someone educate me more on the A profile bottom row?  Is there some merit to having a slightly
taller keycap?  Also, did the recent GMK Dolch keyset have an A-Profile bottom row?

GMK dolch has always been BBCDEE

ABCDEE is weird IMO. No like.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 05 December 2014, 13:58:11
ABCDEE is weird IMO. No like.
ABCDEE is greatest.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 05 December 2014, 15:12:02
Wrong ABCDEF is the greatest.  :p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: Cherry1990 on Sat, 06 December 2014, 17:28:15
GMK means always ABS?
Real misfortune... PBT is forever, like the original one... :( Otherwise I would like to buy one set!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 06 December 2014, 17:46:11
GMK means always ABS?
Real misfortune... PBT is forever, like the original one... :( Otherwise I would like to buy one set!

Bruh

GMK ABS is the bomb

you're missing out
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: renne on Sun, 07 December 2014, 18:24:49
any update?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: jonathanyu on Sun, 07 December 2014, 20:12:26
any update?
still waiting color ring from GMK
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: swornxin on Sun, 07 December 2014, 20:20:44
Filled out the form. If they layout is the same or similar to Ivan's Dolch or 85/15 then I will be in for sure regardless of colour choice.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: TBone on Sun, 07 December 2014, 20:39:40
Filled out the form. If they layout is the same or similar to Ivan's Dolch or 85/15 then I will be in for sure regardless of colour choice.

I hope it's not like 85/15 because I'm not really a fan of the !@#$%^... layout. All of those special keys aren't in their regular places. It would bug me to have a keyboard with caps that don't represent the correct key strokes or, even worse as a software engineer, re-map these keys.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: radio_killah on Sun, 07 December 2014, 23:27:49
Filled out the form. If they layout is the same or similar to Ivan's Dolch or 85/15 then I will be in for sure regardless of colour choice.

I hope it's not like 85/15 because I'm not really a fan of the !@#$%^... layout. All of those special keys aren't in their regular places. It would bug me to have a keyboard with caps that don't represent the correct key strokes or, even worse as a software engineer, re-map these keys.

As long as it has the same layout of keys it should be good. I don't think that those keycap legends would work well with olivetti.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: swornxin on Mon, 08 December 2014, 00:39:13

Filled out the form. If they layout is the same or similar to Ivan's Dolch or 85/15 then I will be in for sure regardless of colour choice.

I hope it's not like 85/15 because I'm not really a fan of the !@#$%^... layout. All of those special keys aren't in their regular places. It would bug me to have a keyboard with caps that don't represent the correct key strokes or, even worse as a software engineer, re-map these keys.
You're right. I should have just said Dolch. That set was perfect for me.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: Cherry1990 on Wed, 10 December 2014, 19:33:47
GMK ABS is the bomb
you're missing out
Original one was made in PBT, if I am not wrong...
I have an original double shot Cherry set from 1990... It is greasy... :-X
Anyway the set is beautiful and colours very nice, I like it! ;)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: jonathanyu on Wed, 10 December 2014, 20:34:09
GMK ABS is the bomb
you're missing out
Original one was made in PBT, if I am not wrong...
I have an original double shot Cherry set from 1990... It is greasy... :-X
Anyway the set is beautiful and colours very nice, I like it! ;)
You mean original Olivetti?  There are both abs doubleshot version and pbt dyesub version
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: deci on Sat, 13 December 2014, 19:52:37
Can't wait for this set.

Really hope we can get the blue on whit f5 - f8 as well.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: findingthelimit on Sun, 14 December 2014, 04:19:05
what's the status on this interest check? Does this become a group buy if we reach a certain number of people filling out the form?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: quochung1989 on Sun, 14 December 2014, 06:19:19

what's the status on this interest check? Does this become a group buy if we reach a certain number of people filling out the form?

any update?
still waiting color ring from GMK
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: frostylove on Wed, 17 December 2014, 19:18:18
Can't wait to get a Olivetti set! :p
Blue F5~F8 is not necessary for me please don't replace the original white ones  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: TLSC.wipeOut on Thu, 18 December 2014, 00:51:37
Interested in one set~! =)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: Digitize on Thu, 18 December 2014, 01:04:13
Cross my fingers and pray to the keyboard gods that this group buy will happen.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: taylordcraig on Thu, 18 December 2014, 11:21:41
just wanted to throw my two cents in
L9 is too creamy and the beige used in originatives mods was too much of a red hue; careful that the grey is cool, not warm.

source: i have the gmk colors in front of me.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: gravenshard on Thu, 18 December 2014, 11:36:56
Cross my fingers and pray to the keyboard gods that this group buy will happen.

Hell yeah :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: zhihuichan on Sat, 20 December 2014, 09:22:45
N5 on L9 for the alpha keys, and N5 on U9 for the modifiers keys,I think light font font color will be better.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: radio_killah on Sat, 20 December 2014, 19:55:03
Are you planning on text or symbol mods with this set?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: jonathanyu on Sat, 20 December 2014, 20:20:46
Are you planning on text or symbol mods with this set?
text with symbol
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: quochung1989 on Sat, 20 December 2014, 21:15:37
Are you planning on text or symbol mods with this set?
text with symbol

I like this :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: renne on Sun, 21 December 2014, 01:13:21
Are you planning on text or symbol mods with this set?
text with symbol
Great.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: zhihuichan on Wed, 24 December 2014, 21:22:10
When will the group be organized? I'm in!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
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Id be very interested in this set! Filled out the survey
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: jameslr on Tue, 30 December 2014, 13:00:33
Finally - this is my endgame set. Bring the olivetti GMK goodness
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: renne on Tue, 30 December 2014, 16:06:17
FYI, someone in China has ordered 250 sets of GMK Olivetti and will be able to sell them by the end of Jan, 2015.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 30 December 2014, 16:16:30
FYI, someone in China has ordered 250 sets of GMK Olivetti and will be able to sell them by the end of Jan, 2015.

What is this post supposed to tell us?!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: radio_killah on Tue, 30 December 2014, 18:13:54
FYI, someone in China has ordered 250 sets of GMK Olivetti and will be able to sell them by the end of Jan, 2015.
Any other info?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: renne on Tue, 30 December 2014, 20:46:02
FYI, someone in China has ordered 250 sets of GMK Olivetti and will be able to sell them by the end of Jan, 2015.

What is this post supposed to tell us?!
Prepare enough money for it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: renne on Tue, 30 December 2014, 20:46:53
FYI, someone in China has ordered 250 sets of GMK Olivetti and will be able to sell them by the end of Jan, 2015.
Any other info?
Nope. I'm still waiting.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 31 December 2014, 02:22:50
FYI, someone in China has ordered 250 sets of GMK Olivetti and will be able to sell them by the end of Jan, 2015.

What is this post supposed to tell us?!
Prepare enough money for it.

Oh ok, I thought crossing out the post meant that the information turned out to be wrong.

I wonder how much this chinese guy will charge for a set. If the markup isn't too bad, he chose text + icon legends and has all the necessary keys I am definitely interested.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: renne on Wed, 31 December 2014, 19:25:15
FYI, someone in China has ordered 250 sets of GMK Olivetti and will be able to sell them by the end of Jan, 2015.

What is this post supposed to tell us?!
Prepare enough money for it.

Oh ok, I thought crossing out the post meant that the information turned out to be wrong.

I wonder how much this chinese guy will charge for a set. If the markup isn't too bad, he chose text + icon legends and has all the necessary keys I am definitely interested.
I crossed it because I don't have much detail information about it.

It's a full set, includes almost everything you need.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: yicaoyimu on Thu, 01 January 2015, 06:10:23
The information is correct and those caps will arrive in China this month with no doubt (together with the same set with red legend). But I don't know how plan to sell them. They have to be authorized vendor to sell them here.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 12 January 2015, 14:22:44
Hope this isn't taken as me derailing this IC in any way, but right now you can get PBT Olivetti for $80: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=66550.0
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: shawn24 on Sat, 17 January 2015, 20:19:43
FYI, someone in China has ordered 250 sets of GMK Olivetti and will be able to sell them by the end of Jan, 2015.

What is this post supposed to tell us?!
Prepare enough money for it.

Oh ok, I thought crossing out the post meant that the information turned out to be wrong.

I wonder how much this chinese guy will charge for a set. If the markup isn't too bad, he chose text + icon legends and has all the necessary keys I am definitely interested.
no less than $180, prob $200+ on GH if he's allowed to sell
anyway I'm in if this post turns to GB
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: renne on Sat, 17 January 2015, 23:57:17
FYI, someone in China has ordered 250 sets of GMK Olivetti and will be able to sell them by the end of Jan, 2015.

What is this post supposed to tell us?!
Prepare enough money for it.

Oh ok, I thought crossing out the post meant that the information turned out to be wrong.

I wonder how much this chinese guy will charge for a set. If the markup isn't too bad, he chose text + icon legends and has all the necessary keys I am definitely interested.
no less than $180, prob $200+ on GH if he's allowed to sell
anyway I'm in if this post turns to GB
around $185 for a set with a display case and a resin cap. that's what ive heard.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: quochung1989 on Sun, 18 January 2015, 02:47:31
I heard from my friend. Exactly is 1150 ¥
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: radio_killah on Sun, 18 January 2015, 11:36:02
I heard from my friend. Exactly is 1150 ¥

That's not including shipping though right?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: quochung1989 on Sun, 18 January 2015, 19:25:00
I heard from my friend. Exactly is 1150 ¥

That's not including shipping though right?

Yeah right.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: 3Love on Mon, 19 January 2015, 03:43:56
I heard from my friend. Exactly is 1150 ¥

That's not including shipping though right?

Yeah right.
You guys are correct! New GMK olivetee will arrive in China by the end of Jan. And begin to shipping all keycaps out by the beginning of February. The price is ¥1150=$185.
Just prepare the money. :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: quochung1989 on Mon, 19 January 2015, 06:27:08
But I think it's expensive with mockup like below picture.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: WinterIsle on Mon, 19 January 2015, 07:35:45
Just a ridiculous hijack price, nothing special with the colors.
GLHF
(http://puu.sh/eJt59.jpg)

Btw windowed keycaps with pad printing just look awfully bad and not matching well when putting together with doubleshot ones. I had them inspected in real life, they just sucks coz only look good in pictures.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: swornxin on Sat, 24 January 2015, 15:12:41
But I think it's expensive with mockup like below picture
:eek:

This is my endgame set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: tjweir on Sun, 25 January 2015, 08:03:10

But I think it's expensive with mockup like below picture

I would love both the red and blue sets.

Shame about the prices :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 25 January 2015, 09:21:12
whoops... posted in wrong thread.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: Pieminister on Thu, 05 February 2015, 14:05:39
Where in line is this group buy? I understand on GH you usually only have one/two GMK group buys at a time. I reckon the TA and Cyan ones are up there.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: radio_killah on Thu, 05 February 2015, 14:26:33
Where in line is this group buy? I understand on GH you usually only have one/two GMK group buys at a time. I reckon the TA and Cyan ones are up there.

Last I heard we didn't even come close to 250 on the interest check form.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: Karura on Fri, 06 February 2015, 02:51:27
After looking at the pictures comparing the Originative Olivetti (N5 blue) vs the new Chinese Olivetti (V4 blue), I'm going to say definitely go with the N5.

N5 is a lighter blue, but it'll translate to a lot vibrant and beautiful looking set, since V4 is way too dark and therefore looks dull.

I have actual V4 and N5 keycaps infront me as well as GMK's colour ring, so I am not basing my thoughts off photos, but of actual keycaps.

Another reason would be to diversify from the Chinese GB, which isn't a bad thing.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: bueller on Fri, 06 February 2015, 03:50:33
Where in line is this group buy? I understand on GH you usually only have one/two GMK group buys at a time. I reckon the TA and Cyan ones are up there.

Last I heard we didn't even come close to 250 on the interest check form.
Yeah I hate to be a downer but I just can't see this getting there. Lacklustre response AND there is another Olivetti set already available through the Chinese forums and Taobao.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: quochung1989 on Fri, 06 February 2015, 07:47:58
After looking at the pictures comparing the Originative Olivetti (N5 blue) vs the new Chinese Olivetti (V4 blue), I'm going to say definitely go with the N5.

N5 is a lighter blue, but it'll translate to a lot vibrant and beautiful looking set, since V4 is way too dark and therefore looks dull.

I have actual V4 and N5 keycaps infront me as well as GMK's colour ring, so I am not basing my thoughts off photos, but of actual keycaps.

Another reason would be to diversify from the Chinese GB, which isn't a bad thing.
Do you have real picture about Chinese Olivetti? I want compare.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: bueller on Fri, 06 February 2015, 07:51:13
After looking at the pictures comparing the Originative Olivetti (N5 blue) vs the new Chinese Olivetti (V4 blue), I'm going to say definitely go with the N5.

N5 is a lighter blue, but it'll translate to a lot vibrant and beautiful looking set, since V4 is way too dark and therefore looks dull.

I have actual V4 and N5 keycaps infront me as well as GMK's colour ring, so I am not basing my thoughts off photos, but of actual keycaps.

Another reason would be to diversify from the Chinese GB, which isn't a bad thing.
Do you have real picture about Chinese Olivetti? I want compare.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.90.6f5sdR&id=43524388551&ns=1&abbucket=18#detail
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: FrostyToast on Fri, 06 February 2015, 07:56:01
With that one Chinese guy, neone23 I believe, who bought 250 RA and 250 Olivetti, this pretty much a dead idea.
The sets are of course jacked up in price since he bought them himself, but the point is that this set has already happened and it would be damaging to the guy to take away from his sales. This wouldn't be very equitable, especially with that risk he took.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: quochung1989 on Fri, 06 February 2015, 08:05:04
Thanks your link, bueller  :thumb:
Chinese Olivetti seems similar original Olivetti than Originative one.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: ideus on Fri, 06 February 2015, 08:34:11
I think the thread starter should state what he thinks about the comments on the Chinese option and also about how many people are really interested in this GB or if they would prefer to source their sets somewhere else.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: shawn24 on Sun, 08 February 2015, 12:47:15
no need to talk about the other one, just focus this IC and try to make it
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: whentheclouds on Sun, 08 February 2015, 13:34:35
no need to talk about the other one, just focus this IC and try to make it
it's a very big deal because GMK sets struggle to reach the MOQ. a competitor in the form of a readily available set that looks similar to the one being proposed will dramatically hurt its chances of achieving that magical 250 number
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: ideus on Sun, 08 February 2015, 14:55:25
no need to talk about the other one, just focus this IC and try to make it

I agree, the problem is that someone opened the discussion of the other right here. I think that was like thread crapping this IC.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: jonathanyu on Sun, 08 February 2015, 20:40:52
Just like what I have said in the Green Mod Set before, I will run the Group Buy first, and if it doesn't meet the MOQ, I may run a gb of A profile bottom row, Insert, Delete, F5-F8, and PRT SC (if GMK can make this key They can make it). 
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: intelli78 on Sun, 08 February 2015, 20:42:03
GMK can make PRT SC.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: jonathanyu on Sun, 08 February 2015, 20:43:31
GMK can make PRT SC.
Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: justnits on Mon, 09 February 2015, 00:37:45
Just like what I have said in the Green Mod Set before, I will run the Group Buy first, and if it doesn't meet the MOQ, I may run a gb of A profile bottom row, Insert, Delete, F5-F8, and PRT SC (if GMK can make this key They can make it).

when is this groupbuy starting?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: radio_killah on Mon, 09 February 2015, 01:05:48
Hey jonathanyu, do you think we could try to use a layout similar to Ctrlalt's offering? I think it offers the best balance between all the layouts. Also as an FYI I intend to support your version of the Olivetti, the other offering is just too overpriced and costs almost twice as much as other GMK buys. Remember people he is asking $180+ not including shipping...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: Kira on Wed, 11 February 2015, 01:41:04
This with choice of color options and different languages! Arabic FTW. That would be amazing!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: radio_killah on Wed, 25 February 2015, 21:47:35
Please come through with this GB for us Jonathanyu!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: ideus on Wed, 25 February 2015, 21:49:07
Hey jonathanyu, do you think we could try to use a layout similar to Ctrlalt's offering? I think it offers the best balance between all the layouts. Also as an FYI I intend to support your version of the Olivetti, the other offering is just too overpriced and costs almost twice as much as other GMK buys. Remember people he is asking $180+ not including shipping...


+1 to this.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: quochung1989 on Wed, 25 February 2015, 23:30:25
We should continue use V4? After I saw Olivetti China, V4 is not enough dark like original color. In additional N5 seems better than.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 26 February 2015, 02:38:17
I hate to say it, but I guess it will be almost impossible to reach MOQ with this set, since it's now readily available through Photekq's proxy GB.


I think the demand for a blue GMK set is still there, but maybe we should go for a Raindrop set (blue mods) instead of Olivetti?!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: bueller on Thu, 26 February 2015, 02:41:54
I hate to say it, but I guess it will be almost impossible to reach MOQ with this set, since it's now readily available through Photekq's proxy GB.


I think the demand for a blue GMK set is still there, but maybe we should go for a Raindrop set (blue mods) instead of Olivetti?!

Honestly I think this was going to struggle even before that set was made in China, the response hasn't exactly been overwhelming. Raindrop set would fare much better I think.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: quochung1989 on Thu, 26 February 2015, 03:09:26
Billnye 'll run Blue Mod in the future. If anyone want Raindrop, they can buy Olivetti & Blue mod together. So we should go to N5 color in this group buy.

I don't hope so much but I still wish this GB can happen soon.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 26 February 2015, 03:16:11
Billnye 'll run Blue Mod in the future. If anyone want Raindrop, they can buy Olivetti & Blue mod together. So we should go to N5 color in this group buy.

I don't hope so much but I still wish this GB can happen soon.

Billnye's Mod Set will only Support 60% boards.

I think a real set should go for fullsize ANSI/ISO.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: pasph on Thu, 26 February 2015, 03:23:35
Massdrop?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: bueller on Thu, 26 February 2015, 03:24:15
Billnye 'll run Blue Mod in the future. If anyone want Raindrop, they can buy Olivetti & Blue mod together. So we should go to N5 color in this group buy.

I don't hope so much but I still wish this GB can happen soon.

Billnye's Mod Set will only Support 60% boards.

I think a real set should go for fullsize ANSI/ISO.
Would be too expensive for most as well, I'd love a raindrop set but I wouldn't buy an Olivetti set to try and make one.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: quochung1989 on Thu, 26 February 2015, 04:22:31
Oh sorry I saw it uncarefully. It seems hard to Olivetti GMK group buy can run. So sad  :-X
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: whentheclouds on Thu, 26 February 2015, 08:50:15
according to billnye's GMK mockup archive, there are ICs in China right now for GMK Raindrop and Red Alert with colored modifiers

(http://i.imgur.com/eIAdYQK.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/r0ULeu5.png)

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: bazh on Thu, 26 February 2015, 08:52:21
and then we still have to buy through proxy that probably end up with crazy prices...


I started to miss Sherry already
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 26 February 2015, 09:00:09
and then we still have to buy through proxy that probably end up with crazy prices...

This may be avoidable in the future.  A large portion of the price of the sets selling right now could be prevented by using different logistics.  (I'm being intentionally vague, as photek left some details out of his buy, but he's willing to share via PM)

I hate to say it, but I guess it will be almost impossible to reach MOQ with this set, since it's now readily available through Photekq's proxy GB.

I'm not convinced it would be impossible.  There are a lot of people passing on the current sale due to price (myself included).  If we used Massdrop, it might be very possible.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: bueller on Thu, 26 February 2015, 09:17:43
according to billnye's GMK mockup archive, there are ICs in China right now for GMK Raindrop and Red Alert with colored modifiers

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/eIAdYQK.png)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/r0ULeu5.png)




GMK Red Alert is a set that I would definitely pay a premium for. So beautiful.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: quochung1989 on Thu, 26 February 2015, 09:17:50
according to billnye's GMK mockup archive, there are ICs in China right now for GMK Raindrop and Red Alert with colored modifiers

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/eIAdYQK.png)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/r0ULeu5.png)

Price? Like Olivetti or more?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: whentheclouds on Thu, 26 February 2015, 09:31:11
these sets will probably be cheaper because there are much less addon keys. exactly how much, i have no idea as i don't browse the chinese forums
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 26 February 2015, 09:32:30
according to billnye's GMK mockup archive, there are ICs in China right now for GMK Raindrop and Red Alert with colored modifiers

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/eIAdYQK.png)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/r0ULeu5.png)



I find the lack of symmetry in these sets disturbing!

(insert vader meme here)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: whentheclouds on Thu, 26 February 2015, 09:34:46
yeah, seems like they minimized the amount of secondary keys to cut cost
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: quochung1989 on Thu, 26 February 2015, 10:32:39
Yes. This is way to reduce costs. I really like this set than Olivetti  :cool:
Very attractive. But the important thing is i like Olivetti than (I am classic fan.)
Hope there is Olivetti GB use this mockup  :thumb: (only use U9 instead N5 on modifier).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: radio_killah on Thu, 26 February 2015, 11:39:35
according to billnye's GMK mockup archive, there are ICs in China right now for GMK Raindrop and Red Alert with colored modifiers

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/eIAdYQK.png)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/r0ULeu5.png)




GMK Red Alert is a set that I would definitely pay a premium for. So beautiful.

If you are willing to pay a premium then why not just buy the one from Photeq? Is that not a Red Alert set?

But on the topic of getting this to happen, I think we just need to see how well the pre-made sets do. I mean I would love to see some keys added and some taken away, maybe change the grey color, etc.

I don't think it is impossible to get this off the ground but it would take a lot of work and effort. That being said, there are just too many GMK buys right now..
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 26 February 2015, 11:58:02
GMK Red Alert is a set that I would definitely pay a premium for. So beautiful.

If you are willing to pay a premium then why not just buy the one from Photeq? Is that not a Red Alert set?
GMK Red Alert is a set that I would definitely pay a premium for. So beautiful.


Because the real Red Alert set has red modifiers and not beige modifiers with red legends ;)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: radio_killah on Thu, 26 February 2015, 11:59:21
Ahh. LOL silly me. Not a small difference.  :))
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti
Post by: jonathanyu on Thu, 26 February 2015, 18:01:44
This group buy is probably going to be canceled.  Right now, the interest actually is low, not even close to the MOQ.  There are also many GMK group buy in this year.  GMK Olivetti is also available from China, so this set is most likely impossible to meet the MOQ.  Also GMK does not offer the color that close to the original, and I don't think custom color is a option for this set.. so..  I am really sorry.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti - R.I.P
Post by: swornxin on Thu, 26 February 2015, 18:33:39
Unfortunate.  I was hoping we'd have a more affordable option than the other Olivetti.  We still have the classic beige coming up at least. 
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68141.0
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti, please fill out the Interest Form (waiting for color ring)
Post by: yicaoyimu on Thu, 26 February 2015, 19:14:55
according to billnye's GMK mockup archive, there are ICs in China right now for GMK Raindrop and Red Alert with colored modifiers

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/eIAdYQK.png)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/r0ULeu5.png)


I think those images are from kbdlab originally. http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_groupbuy_build&document_srl=478959 (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_groupbuy_build&document_srl=478959) It seems to be a random IC from a long time ago.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti - R.I.P
Post by: whentheclouds on Thu, 26 February 2015, 19:22:42
you're most likely correct, but i do recall reading a post about someone 'ripping off' these SP colorways and running GMK ICs for them on Chinese sites. maybe someone who's active in the Chinese community can fill us in
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti - R.I.P
Post by: yicaoyimu on Thu, 26 February 2015, 19:30:12
you're most likely correct, but i do recall reading a post about someone 'ripping off' these SP colorways and running GMK ICs for them on Chinese sites. maybe someone who's active in the Chinese community can fill us in

Irisviel posted those images on EC and I guess that's the post you referred to. That's the closest thing I can think of and I'm pretty active in Chinese community.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti - R.I.P
Post by: billnye on Thu, 26 February 2015, 19:32:06
you're most likely correct, but i do recall reading a post about someone 'ripping off' these SP colorways and running GMK ICs for them on Chinese sites. maybe someone who's active in the Chinese community can fill us in

Irisviel posted those images on EC and I guess that's the post you referred to. That's the closest thing I can think of and I'm pretty active in Chinese community.
Was it the red on black set that got produced?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti - R.I.P
Post by: whentheclouds on Thu, 26 February 2015, 19:36:52
you mean the comment about the 'ripoff'? it was a casual/offhanded remark made here. when i saw these renders in billnye's mockup archive and the subtitle 'Chinese IC' i just kinda added 2 and 2 together. thanks for clearing it up
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti - R.I.P
Post by: yicaoyimu on Thu, 26 February 2015, 19:40:48
you're most likely correct, but i do recall reading a post about someone 'ripping off' these SP colorways and running GMK ICs for them on Chinese sites. maybe someone who's active in the Chinese community can fill us in

Irisviel posted those images on EC and I guess that's the post you referred to. That's the closest thing I can think of and I'm pretty active in Chinese community.
Was it the red on black set that got produced?

None of these get produced. There are not many GMK group buys I can think of that are only for Chinese community. The only one (and a very recent one) is a reproduction of purple mod. And, of course, there is CMYW in China but I'm sure no one on GH cares. Most of the other GBs (LED cap, cyan set, etc) have already been proxied by feng.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti - R.I.P
Post by: bueller on Thu, 26 February 2015, 19:42:54
you're most likely correct, but i do recall reading a post about someone 'ripping off' these SP colorways and running GMK ICs for them on Chinese sites. maybe someone who's active in the Chinese community can fill us in

Irisviel posted those images on EC and I guess that's the post you referred to. That's the closest thing I can think of and I'm pretty active in Chinese community.
Was it the red on black set that got produced?

None of these get produced. There are not many GMK group buys I can think of that are only for Chinese community. The only one (and a very recent one) is a reproduction of purple mod. And, of course, there is CMYW in China but I'm sure no one on GH cares. Most of the other GBs (LED cap, cyan set, etc) have already been proxied by feng.

Somehow they managed to do a white on black GMK set that flew totally under GH's radar. Really disappointed I missed out on that one, it had everything included. I'll try and find a photo, someone asked for a price check a while back.

EDIT: Found it!

(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=31779.0;attach=88500;image)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti - R.I.P
Post by: yicaoyimu on Thu, 26 February 2015, 19:49:17
Somehow they managed to do a white on black GMK set that flew totally under GH's radar. Really disappointed I missed out on that one, it had some awesome keys included. I'll try and find a photo, someone asked for a price check a while back.

That one was actually a Korean GB together with Korean Dolch GB, and Irisviel proxied them on EC. That set is overpriced at ~$180 considering how easily you can find NIB WoB set on eBay.

EDIT: That picture doesn't look like the set from that GB since the LED capslock and scrolllock are missing.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti - R.I.P
Post by: bueller on Thu, 26 February 2015, 19:57:52
Somehow they managed to do a white on black GMK set that flew totally under GH's radar. Really disappointed I missed out on that one, it had some awesome keys included. I'll try and find a photo, someone asked for a price check a while back.

That one was actually a Korean GB together with Korean Dolch GB, and Irisviel proxied them on EC. That set is overpriced at ~$180 considering how easily you can find NIB WoB set on eBay.

EDIT: That picture doesn't look like the set from that GB since the LED capslock and scrolllock are missing.

$180 - wow, guess I'll stick with using an RGB set for the bottom row mods until Ivan does a more reasonably priced set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti - R.I.P
Post by: luckyryan333 on Thu, 26 February 2015, 20:38:24
Somehow they managed to do a white on black GMK set that flew totally under GH's radar. Really disappointed I missed out on that one, it had some awesome keys included. I'll try and find a photo, someone asked for a price check a while back.

That one was actually a Korean GB together with Korean Dolch GB, and Irisviel proxied them on EC. That set is overpriced at ~$180 considering how easily you can find NIB WoB set on eBay.

EDIT: That picture doesn't look like the set from that GB since the LED capslock and scrolllock are missing.

Correct. GMK WoB set includes 104 ANSI keys, extra 11 keys, and 3 LED windowed keys.
Its original price is about $130 USD at current exchange rate. Somewhat pricey? Correct.
After GB, some people cast a doubt on its price, and then finally it came out into the open that GB starter took no small unveiled profit personally.
Since that, his reputation got to be worse and he seems not to continue making another GMK GB because of falling his credit.

$180? Well... not a little profit(or premium)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti - R.I.P
Post by: radio_killah on Thu, 26 February 2015, 20:59:55
Shame that this has died. Thank you Jonathanyu for all your effort towards this.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti - R.I.P(canceled)
Post by: quochung1989 on Thu, 26 February 2015, 22:38:18
Damn it. Olivetti gone out. We can't touch it  :-\
Anyway, thanks for your effect, Jonathanyu.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti - R.I.P(canceled)
Post by: Karura on Sat, 28 February 2015, 06:05:14
Somehow they managed to do a white on black GMK set that flew totally under GH's radar. Really disappointed I missed out on that one, it had some awesome keys included. I'll try and find a photo, someone asked for a price check a while back.

That one was actually a Korean GB together with Korean Dolch GB, and Irisviel proxied them on EC. That set is overpriced at ~$180 considering how easily you can find NIB WoB set on eBay.

EDIT: That picture doesn't look like the set from that GB since the LED capslock and scrolllock are missing.

Correct. GMK WoB set includes 104 ANSI keys, extra 11 keys, and 3 LED windowed keys.
Its original price is about $130 USD at current exchange rate. Somewhat pricey? Correct.
After GB, some people cast a doubt on its price, and then finally it came out into the open that GB starter took no small unveiled profit personally.
Since that, his reputation got to be worse and he seems not to continue making another GMK GB because of falling his credit.

$180? Well... not a little profit(or premium)

Ryan, that is pretty interesting info. Do you know if the GB on EC also came with LED windowed caps/scroll/numlocks? I thought that was only from the Korean GB.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti - R.I.P(canceled)
Post by: luckyryan333 on Sat, 28 February 2015, 11:06:56
Somehow they managed to do a white on black GMK set that flew totally under GH's radar. Really disappointed I missed out on that one, it had some awesome keys included. I'll try and find a photo, someone asked for a price check a while back.

That one was actually a Korean GB together with Korean Dolch GB, and Irisviel proxied them on EC. That set is overpriced at ~$180 considering how easily you can find NIB WoB set on eBay.

EDIT: That picture doesn't look like the set from that GB since the LED capslock and scrolllock are missing.

Correct. GMK WoB set includes 104 ANSI keys, extra 11 keys, and 3 LED windowed keys.
Its original price is about $130 USD at current exchange rate. Somewhat pricey? Correct.
After GB, some people cast a doubt on its price, and then finally it came out into the open that GB starter took no small unveiled profit personally.
Since that, his reputation got to be worse and he seems not to continue making another GMK GB because of falling his credit.

$180? Well... not a little profit(or premium)

Ryan, that is pretty interesting info. Do you know if the GB on EC also came with LED windowed caps/scroll/numlocks? I thought that was only from the Korean GB.

Correct. I explained what caps were included in GMK Dolch set from the former Korean GB.
As far as I know, Dolch-style LED windowed caps/scroll/numlocks were included in GMK Dolch set from this Korean GB and Originative only as below.

Korean GB mockup
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Originative mockup
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BTW, Unfortunately I've no idea about any GB on EC such caps are included currently.
Even later, if I may find any GB, I'll let you know it.

PS) You mean you are looking for 3 windowed caps in just Dolch color? Or any other color scheme?
If the latter, you know, now you can find several GBs here include such caps. For example, Feng's GMK Cyan set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti - R.I.P
Post by: findingthelimit on Fri, 06 March 2015, 15:04:03
Somehow they managed to do a white on black GMK set that flew totally under GH's radar. Really disappointed I missed out on that one, it had some awesome keys included. I'll try and find a photo, someone asked for a price check a while back.

That one was actually a Korean GB together with Korean Dolch GB, and Irisviel proxied them on EC. That set is overpriced at ~$180 considering how easily you can find NIB WoB set on eBay.

EDIT: That picture doesn't look like the set from that GB since the LED capslock and scrolllock are missing.

Can you let me know what the Chinese forum is? I have a Chinese address and can read chinese.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti - R.I.P(canceled)
Post by: naasfu on Fri, 06 March 2015, 15:26:51
http://www.enjoyclick.org/

I think this is it.  I can't read Chinese. :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Olivetti - R.I.P(canceled)
Post by: yicaoyimu on Fri, 06 March 2015, 16:00:53
Somehow they managed to do a white on black GMK set that flew totally under GH's radar. Really disappointed I missed out on that one, it had some awesome keys included. I'll try and find a photo, someone asked for a price check a while back.

That one was actually a Korean GB together with Korean Dolch GB, and Irisviel proxied them on EC. That set is overpriced at ~$180 considering how easily you can find NIB WoB set on eBay.

EDIT: That picture doesn't look like the set from that GB since the LED capslock and scrolllock are missing.

Correct. GMK WoB set includes 104 ANSI keys, extra 11 keys, and 3 LED windowed keys.
Its original price is about $130 USD at current exchange rate. Somewhat pricey? Correct.
After GB, some people cast a doubt on its price, and then finally it came out into the open that GB starter took no small unveiled profit personally.
Since that, his reputation got to be worse and he seems not to continue making another GMK GB because of falling his credit.

$180? Well... not a little profit(or premium)

Ryan, that is pretty interesting info. Do you know if the GB on EC also came with LED windowed caps/scroll/numlocks? I thought that was only from the Korean GB.

Irisviel proxied Korean Dolch/WoB GB on EC, so whatever is included in Korean GB is also included in EC GB.