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Title: Model F PC/AT
Post by: ch_123 on Tue, 30 June 2009, 10:31:23: Here's one. (http://cgi.ebay.ie/VINTAGE-IBM-Metal-Keyboard-PC-XT-RARE_W0QQitemZ280364236325QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item414702be25&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177&_trkparms=240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50#ebayphotohosting) It's advertised as a PC/XT model, but it's definitely an AT model (LED lights + AT layout). Pretty crappy condition though.
Title: Model F PC/AT
Post by: timw4mail on Tue, 30 June 2009, 10:57:32: Quote from: ch_123;100162
Here's one. (http://cgi.ebay.ie/VINTAGE-IBM-Metal-Keyboard-PC-XT-RARE_W0QQitemZ280364236325QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item414702be25&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177&_trkparms=240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50#ebayphotohosting) It's advertised as a PC/XT model, but it's definitely an AT model (LED lights + AT layout). Pretty crappy condition though.

You think its just dirty?
Title: Model F PC/AT
Post by: timw4mail on Tue, 30 June 2009, 11:04:10: Quote from: ripster;100176
Is that a rhetorical question?

Sorry, saw your other post. :biggrin1:

No, it wasn't. :mmph:
Title: Model F PC/AT
Post by: ch_123 on Tue, 30 June 2009, 11:10:12: Quote
You think its just dirty?

Yeah, I said that in reference to the dirt. Probably nothing that a good cleaning wouldnt fix. Buckling springs, whether they be of the Model M or F variety don't really wear out like other keyboards so there's no issue there.
Title: Model F PC/AT
Post by: Shawn Stanford on Tue, 30 June 2009, 11:25:38: Am I correct in understanding that this model will interface to a PS/2 connector with an adapter?
Title: Model F PC/AT
Post by: ch_123 on Tue, 30 June 2009, 11:25:40: Oddly enough, even though the pictures are kinda fuzzy, the label says "Personal Computer AT" (the XT ones never said XT, they just said Personal Computer on them) God bless the poor guy selling it who can't tell the difference between an A and an X...

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May go for lower for average if it has been mislabelled.

The AT ones are more valuable than the XT ones because they are comparitively rare. So it would be in the best interest of whoever knows what it really is to have everyone think that it's the XT model :P

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Am I correct in understanding that this model will interface to a PS/2 connector with an adapter?

Using one right here with an AT->PS/2 adaptor hooked to a PS/2->USB adaptor. So yes, the AT connector is basically the same as the PS/2 connector, it's just a different plug.
Title: Model F PC/AT
Post by: timw4mail on Tue, 30 June 2009, 12:00:53: I want this... so...how does one do "sniping"?
Title: Model F PC/AT
Post by: ch_123 on Tue, 30 June 2009, 12:14:36: Basically, just make your bid really really close to the end of the auction. Don't wan't to give away my more detailed tactics =P
Title: Model F PC/AT
Post by: microsoft windows on Wed, 01 July 2009, 06:35:28: It would be great to ahve one of those on my crappy computer with the DIN port...
Title: Model F PC/AT
Post by: nowsharing on Wed, 01 July 2009, 09:05:10: Quote
I want this... so...how does one do "sniping"?

Google (http://www.google.com/search?name=f&hl=en&q=%22auction+sniping%22) is your friend. IMO the best sniping service is Gixen.com

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Basically, just make your bid really really close to the end of the auction.

That's not really sniping, it's late bidding, unless you can make your manual bid within 2-3 seconds of the auction's close.

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Don't wan't to give away my more detailed tactics =P

Did you start a thread about a keyboard that you intend to bid on?

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It would be great to ahve one of those on my crappy computer with the DIN port...

An AT Model F should work on any computer via an adapter.
Title: Model F PC/AT
Post by: ch_123 on Wed, 01 July 2009, 12:19:10: Quote
Did you start a thread about a keyboard that you intend to bid on?

Hah! Of course not! If I were to buy another Model F, it'd be one in mint condition.

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It would be great to ahve one of those on my crappy computer with the DIN port...
An AT Model F should work on any computer via an adapter.

Conversely, a PS/2 keyboard can be plugged into a computer with an AT/DIN connector by means of a simple adaptor.
Title: Model F PC/AT
Post by: timw4mail on Wed, 01 July 2009, 12:31:52: Hey, let me snipe it...I mean swipe it...I mean win it.
Title: Model F PC/AT
Post by: microsoft windows on Wed, 01 July 2009, 19:55:29: That would do it...
Title: Model F PC/AT
Post by: Parn on Thu, 02 July 2009, 06:21:34: Another onehttp://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-IBM-PC-AT-Clicky-keyboard-Unit-138_W0QQitemZ130315995702QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPCA_Mice_Trackballs?hash=item1e57704a36&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1240%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50 (http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-IBM-PC-AT-Clicky-keyboard-Unit-138_W0QQitemZ130315995702QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPCA_Mice_Trackballs?hash=item1e57704a36&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1240%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50)

With a buy it now option and is quite expensive.
Title: Model F PC/AT
Post by: microsoft windows on Thu, 02 July 2009, 06:45:35: I've found that the best place to get old stuff like that is just the trash. You'll be amazed what you can find in other peoples' computer waste.
Title: Model F PC/AT
Post by: Mercen_505 on Thu, 02 July 2009, 06:51:01: @Parn:

Man, it looks great (and the seller can be trusted) but the price is too high for how little I'd actually use it.
Title: Model F PC/AT
Post by: ch_123 on Thu, 02 July 2009, 07:30:38: It would be a good buy for someone who doesnt already have one, and wants to guarantee getting a good one...

*coughstimw4mailcoughs*
Title: Model F PC/AT
Post by: timw4mail on Thu, 02 July 2009, 07:33:50: Quote from: ch_123;100655
It would be a good buy for someone who doesnt already have one, and wants to guarantee getting a good one...

*coughstimw4mailcoughs*

But its expensive...:pout:

I'm kind of torn on it at the moment
Title: Model F PC/AT
Post by: ch_123 on Thu, 02 July 2009, 08:04:32: Yeah, I got an M4-1 from him, and if it werent for a few scratch marks on the underside of the board, you'd have sworn it had never seen the light of day...
Title: Model F PC/AT
Post by: timw4mail on Thu, 02 July 2009, 22:21:06: Canceled a Snipe, and bought a Model F :love:
Title: Model F PC/AT
Post by: ch_123 on Fri, 03 July 2009, 05:14:27: Quote from: timw4mail;100870
Canceled a Snipe, and bought a Model F :love:

Huzzah! Post pics/review when you get it.
Title: Model F PC/AT
Post by: timw4mail on Fri, 03 July 2009, 12:57:57: Quote from: ripster;100967
Congrats!

The "Spilled Coke Special" other Ebay one is up to $35. Some people like to live dangerously.

At this rate, I'll probably get the better deal, anyway.
Title: Model F PC/AT
Post by: microsoft windows on Fri, 03 July 2009, 16:25:30: If it was really something like Coke spilled on that thing, it might be shot since those boards had no drainage holes.

$35 actually is a good deal for me since that one (the dirty one) has free shipping in my area!
Title: Model F PC/AT
Post by: ch_123 on Fri, 03 July 2009, 18:52:42: Apparently it's still working. Besides, it doesn't look like Coke... more like someone went out of their way to NOT clean the keyboard...
Title: Model F PC/AT
Post by: Parn on Fri, 03 July 2009, 21:39:14: Quote from: ch_123;100899
Huzzah! Post pics/review when you get it.

Hope to see timw4mail's report very soon .
Title: Model F PC/AT
Post by: timw4mail on Fri, 03 July 2009, 23:09:48: Quote from: Parn;101062
Hope to see timw4mail's report very soon .

I have to get it first :bounce:
Title: Model F PC/AT
Post by: microsoft windows on Sat, 04 July 2009, 07:13:37: Well, even a disgusting keyboard like that Model F can be cleaned so it looks like new. I did that to my old rubber dome one just yesterday (it really needed a cleaning after 18 years of use).