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Title: what happened to quickfire stealth mx green?
Post by: xSpartanCx on Fri, 17 October 2014, 10:37:22
I've been wanting a qfr stealth with green switches for a while but now it doesn't seem to be available anywhere. What happened to it and how can I get it?
Title: Re: what happened to quickfire stealth mx green?
Post by: keyton on Fri, 17 October 2014, 10:51:43
It was a special edition
Title: Re: what happened to quickfire stealth mx green?
Post by: xSpartanCx on Fri, 17 October 2014, 19:06:19
It was a special edition

Oh, okay. Is there anywhere I can still get it that you know of or would I have to ask on the classifieds?
Title: Re: what happened to quickfire stealth mx green?
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 17 October 2014, 19:09:24
People seem to be selling them quite frequently on the classifieds
Title: Re: what happened to quickfire stealth mx green?
Post by: epzy on Fri, 17 October 2014, 19:11:10
demik stole them all :/
Title: Re: what happened to quickfire stealth mx green?
Post by: xSpartanCx on Fri, 17 October 2014, 19:16:35
People seem to be selling them quite frequently on the classifieds

Thanks, I'll keep an eye out.
Title: Re: what happened to quickfire stealth mx green?
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 17 October 2014, 19:28:12
People seem to be selling them quite frequently on the classifieds

Thanks, I'll keep an eye out.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53205.msg1486144#top
Title: Re: what happened to quickfire stealth mx green?
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 18 October 2014, 03:26:53
Good luck finding one!

Sounds like I was lucky getting mine - it's fantastic!
Title: Re: what happened to quickfire stealth mx green?
Post by: berserkfan on Sat, 18 October 2014, 07:30:35
People seem to be selling them quite frequently on the classifieds

Thanks, I'll keep an eye out.

Just a little warning, but you probably have an idea also. This is an often-sold keyboard, and it often takes a while to sell. Which suggests that most people who bought don't quite like it.
Title: Re: what happened to quickfire stealth mx green?
Post by: Belfong on Sat, 18 October 2014, 07:54:54
I love Clears. I'd think Green is the clicky version of Clears. Same weight, right? I'll be wondering why people don't like Green.
Title: Re: what happened to quickfire stealth mx green?
Post by: dante on Sat, 18 October 2014, 08:20:58
To these old hands the Greens feel ever so slightly stiffer than Clears.  While not much of a difference I make more mistakes typing on Greens.

Greens were (to me) the most disappointing Cherry switch - I was hoping they were more like buckling spring or white alps.  Nope nope nope! :(
Title: Re: what happened to quickfire stealth mx green?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 18 October 2014, 08:23:03
I love Clears. I'd think Green is the clicky version of Clears. Same weight, right? I'll be wondering why people don't like Green.

To me greens were much more fatiguing than clears.
Title: Re: what happened to quickfire stealth mx green?
Post by: berserkfan on Sat, 18 October 2014, 09:30:19
I love Clears. I'd think Green is the clicky version of Clears. Same weight, right? I'll be wondering why people don't like Green.

To me greens were much more fatiguing than clears.

I personally liked greens, but did not like the keyboards they came with. Why is CM the only keyboard maker producing greens? My personal opinion is that blue stems with clear springs are more crisp than blue stems with black springs/ real greens.
Title: Re: what happened to quickfire stealth mx green?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 18 October 2014, 09:40:58
I love Clears. I'd think Green is the clicky version of Clears. Same weight, right? I'll be wondering why people don't like Green.

To me greens were much more fatiguing than clears.

I personally liked greens, but did not like the keyboards they came with. Why is CM the only keyboard maker producing greens? My personal opinion is that blue stems with clear springs are more crisp than blue stems with black springs/ real greens.

WASD makes keyboard with greens.
Title: what happened to quickfire stealth mx green?
Post by: Belfong on Sat, 18 October 2014, 09:44:26
Quote from: dante link=topic=64306.msg1506289#msg1506289 date=
I was hoping they were more like buckling spring or white alps.  Nope nope nope! :(
This is exactly what I hope Greens feel like. Stiffer, buckling springs feel with clicky noise. Damn! I probably need to change my JD40 order!
Title: Re: what happened to quickfire stealth mx green?
Post by: davkol on Sat, 18 October 2014, 10:05:44
It's the same kind of tactility as MX Blue, only with a stiffer spring. Put an MX Black spring into an MX Blue switch and you get the idea (it's called ghetto green for a reason after all).

Nothing to do with MX Clear, which is much more tactile in a way similar to rubber domes, and has a steeper force/travel curve due to a different spring with fewer coils.

Quite far from buckling spring too, except for stiffness. BS has sharper tactility, different actuation point and more aggressive sound (not so high-pitched though).
Title: Re: what happened to quickfire stealth mx green?
Post by: xSpartanCx on Sat, 18 October 2014, 11:10:41
BS has sharper tactility, different actuation point and more aggressive sound

I got single switches of each type as well as having a model m and I feel that the mx green is much more tactile than blue and bs
Title: Re: what happened to quickfire stealth mx green?
Post by: davkol on Sat, 18 October 2014, 11:39:15
Just adjust it to a stiffer spring.
(http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/media/guide/graph-mx-blue.jpg)
(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=63305.0;attach=78250;image)
Title: Re: what happened to quickfire stealth mx green?
Post by: divito on Sat, 18 October 2014, 12:11:23
If I was to which felt stiffer, I'd probably give the nod to Clears, but Greens and Clears feel pretty close in force to me. That being said, they're both quite easy to bottom out on.

And given that Greens have mostly disappeared, I'm glad I got my QFS with Greens when I did.
Title: Re: what happened to quickfire stealth mx green?
Post by: davkol on Sat, 18 October 2014, 12:21:38
Notice the steep curve. From 40 cN to 65 cN and then from 60 cN to 100 cN.
(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=63305.0;attach=78247;image)

For comparison, see rknize's spring measurements (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46449.0).
Title: Re: what happened to quickfire stealth mx green?
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 19 October 2014, 04:56:55
I like my greens.  Not as stiff as BS, but I find myself preferring greens over blacks.
Title: Re: what happened to quickfire stealth mx green?
Post by: faceyourfaces on Sun, 19 October 2014, 09:57:59
I like my greens.  Not as stiff as BS, but I find myself preferring greens over blacks.

Everyone else I've heard who has tried both greens and BS say that greens feel more stiff. IIRC greens actually have a higher actuation force than BS as well. Do BS actually feel more stiff to you?
Title: Re: what happened to quickfire stealth mx green?
Post by: dante on Sun, 19 October 2014, 15:16:59
BS is all over the road map.  I've had several 1390120's and they were much lighter / more pleasurable to to type on.   That is the model to try out if you think Buckling Springs are too much for you.
Title: Re: what happened to quickfire stealth mx green?
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 19 October 2014, 15:29:02
I like my greens.  Not as stiff as BS, but I find myself preferring greens over blacks.

Everyone else I've heard who has tried both greens and BS say that greens feel more stiff. IIRC greens actually have a higher actuation force than BS as well. Do BS actually feel more stiff to you?
BS on the model m's I've used certainly felt stiffer. But on my bigfoot F it was a little lighter. depends on what model you have. As for boards with greens, you might be better off with a WASD barebones than a QFR
Title: Re: what happened to quickfire stealth mx green?
Post by: xSpartanCx on Sun, 19 October 2014, 18:57:06
BS on the model m's I've used certainly felt stiffer. But on my bigfoot F it was a little lighter. depends on what model you have. As for boards with greens, you might be better off with a WASD barebones than a QFR

What's wrong with the QFR?
Title: Re: what happened to quickfire stealth mx green?
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 19 October 2014, 18:59:29
BS on the model m's I've used certainly felt stiffer. But on my bigfoot F it was a little lighter. depends on what model you have. As for boards with greens, you might be better off with a WASD barebones than a QFR

What's wrong with the QFR?
nothing's wrong with it per se, but the WASD is just a better keyboard.
Title: Re: what happened to quickfire stealth mx green?
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 19 October 2014, 19:01:38
BS on the model m's I've used certainly felt stiffer. But on my bigfoot F it was a little lighter. depends on what model you have. As for boards with greens, you might be better off with a WASD barebones than a QFR

What's wrong with the QFR?

It's lower quality than most of the other competitors. Not bad per se, just not as good.
Title: Re: what happened to quickfire stealth mx green?
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 19 October 2014, 22:20:25
I like my greens.  Not as stiff as BS, but I find myself preferring greens over blacks.

Everyone else I've heard who has tried both greens and BS say that greens feel more stiff. IIRC greens actually have a higher actuation force than BS as well. Do BS actually feel more stiff to you?

Yes, BS feels stiffer.  I am currently alternating between Model M at home and QFS MX green at work.
Title: Re: what happened to quickfire stealth mx green?
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 19 October 2014, 22:23:21
Solution:

Buy any QF stealth.  Swap greens with whatever's in it.
Title: Re: what happened to quickfire stealth mx green?
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 19 October 2014, 22:44:49
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=64443.0

QFR = QFS with top-printed keycaps.