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Title: Thinkpad IBM/Lenovo retro style
Post by: Novus on Fri, 17 October 2014, 21:39:40
Are you guys a fan of the old school retro IBM style currently found in the Lenovo thinkpad line or do you prefer more modern designs/styles for your laptops?

Title: Re: Thinkpad IBM/Lenovo retro style
Post by: jackalope on Fri, 17 October 2014, 21:58:01
Old IBM thnkpad style all the way, no need for my laptop to be aerodynamic, I'm gonna type on it not fly it.
Title: Re: Thinkpad IBM/Lenovo retro style
Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 17 October 2014, 22:00:14

Old IBM thnkpad style all the way, no need for my laptop to be aerodynamic, I'm gonna type on it not fly it.

Lol good point
Title: Re: Thinkpad IBM/Lenovo retro style
Post by: paicrai on Sun, 19 October 2014, 04:24:20
my laptop is container sized with keys as large as cinderblocks, painted beige ofc
Title: Re: Thinkpad IBM/Lenovo retro style
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 19 October 2014, 05:36:01
Is that the x201 or x200

good stuff.. it was my fav before my x220..

x230 was a let down, got rid of it as soon as posssible..
Title: Thinkpad IBM/Lenovo retro style
Post by: Belfong on Sun, 19 October 2014, 08:30:02
I'm using a x230. It's trash! Waking up from hibernate can take as long as 5 minutes. That's really unacceptable when my MacBook Air takes milliseconds to wake up. Lenovo has totally destroyed the ThinkPad brand.
Title: Re: Thinkpad IBM/Lenovo retro style
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 19 October 2014, 09:28:15
I'm using a x230. It's trash! Waking up from hibernate can take as long as 5 minutes. That's really unacceptable when my MacBook Air takes milliseconds to wake up. Lenovo has totally destroyed the ThinkPad brand.

Um... 5 minutes?

That's unpossible..

a macbook air is significantly less powerful than an x230..

so.. either you got software clutter,  OR your ram/ SSD is not configured properly.
Title: Re: Thinkpad IBM/Lenovo retro style
Post by: yasuo on Sun, 19 October 2014, 09:33:04
they say IBM thinkpad has an amazing wifi network?
Title: Re: Thinkpad IBM/Lenovo retro style
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 19 October 2014, 09:35:01
they say IBM thinkpad has an amazing wifi network?

idk what that means.. but the first thing people do these days is flash the unlock bios so they can upgrade the wifi card for cheaper than what lenovo charges you to do it.

the centrino 6300 intel card is still the go to for Wifi N.. 

the Killer N also works, but it's buggy..

The intel AC card works too, but it's not 3x3, only 2x2
Title: Re: Thinkpad IBM/Lenovo retro style
Post by: Belfong on Sun, 19 October 2014, 09:51:42
I'm using a x230. It's trash! Waking up from hibernate can take as long as 5 minutes. That's really unacceptable when my MacBook Air takes milliseconds to wake up. Lenovo has totally destroyed the ThinkPad brand.

Um... 5 minutes?

That's unpossible..

a macbook air is significantly less powerful than an x230..

so.. either you got software clutter,  OR your ram/ SSD is not configured properly.
The damn ThinkPad is company issue, so I am not surprise if there are a lot of software clutter. It's totally unacceptable P.O.S. for a modern laptop, seriously unproductive. Which is the reason I ended up bringing my own MacBook Air to work!
Title: Re: Thinkpad IBM/Lenovo retro style
Post by: Findecanor on Sun, 19 October 2014, 11:02:26
I'm using a x230. It's trash! Waking up from hibernate can take as long as 5 minutes. That's really unacceptable when my MacBook Air takes milliseconds to wake up. Lenovo has totally destroyed the ThinkPad brand.
That sounds more like "hibernate" mode vs. "suspend" mode to me.
Title: Re: Thinkpad IBM/Lenovo retro style
Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 19 October 2014, 11:09:39
good stuff.. it was my fav before my x220..

x230 was a let down, got rid of it as soon as posssible..

I am more familiar with the tablet versions than the laptop version, but the X220 and X230 are almost identical. Why was the 230 a letdown?

about the hibernate issue: You can put an SSD into an X230, there is space for either a normal size one or a small msata one, this will help significantly.

Also I recommend removing all the lenovo bloatware before use. I actually recommend just loading a fresh copy of windows whenever you get a PC to make sure it's fresh. I'd give that a shot.
Title: Re: Thinkpad IBM/Lenovo retro style
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 19 October 2014, 14:36:04
My x220

Original Lenovo Scissors (collector factor !!)

Supports DDR3  1866mhz (this matters quite a bit on a laptop that uses integrated graphics shared memory)

9cell battery + Slice battery,  doubles the 9 cell essentially


I got the x230,  at the time, i only heard the rumor that ivy was gonna be double the battery life of sandy bridge..  back of my mind, I knew that's impossible,  but I thought well if they get me another 30%, I'll be ok..   WRONG,  maybe 10-20% more batterylife TOPS

Then there was the CPU with only + 5-15%, which amounts to almost nothing..

Then they went with island keyboard, while that's alrite, it's really a cost cutting move..

     - and it didn't have the BLUE  enter key..   that's really important for a thinkpad.. 



if you go out today, and bought the x230, and never use an x220,  it's probably fine..

But.  once you get an x220, you'll be like.. wow, no more steps backwards ...
Title: Re: Thinkpad IBM/Lenovo retro style
Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 19 October 2014, 18:23:13
My x220

Original Lenovo Scissors (collector factor !!)

Supports DDR3  1866mhz (this matters quite a bit on a laptop that uses integrated graphics shared memory)

9cell battery + Slice battery,  doubles the 9 cell essentially


I got the x230,  at the time, i only heard the rumor that ivy was gonna be double the battery life of sandy bridge..  back of my mind, I knew that's impossible,  but I thought well if they get me another 30%, I'll be ok..   WRONG,  maybe 10-20% more batterylife TOPS

Then there was the CPU with only + 5-15%, which amounts to almost nothing..

Then they went with island keyboard, while that's alrite, it's really a cost cutting move..

     - and it didn't have the BLUE  enter key..   that's really important for a thinkpad.. 



if you go out today, and bought the x230, and never use an x220,  it's probably fine..

But.  once you get an x220, you'll be like.. wow, no more steps backwards ...
you can get an X220 keyboard to put on an X230 pretty easily...
Title: Re: Thinkpad IBM/Lenovo retro style
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 19 October 2014, 18:24:14
My x220

Original Lenovo Scissors (collector factor !!)

Supports DDR3  1866mhz (this matters quite a bit on a laptop that uses integrated graphics shared memory)

9cell battery + Slice battery,  doubles the 9 cell essentially


I got the x230,  at the time, i only heard the rumor that ivy was gonna be double the battery life of sandy bridge..  back of my mind, I knew that's impossible,  but I thought well if they get me another 30%, I'll be ok..   WRONG,  maybe 10-20% more batterylife TOPS

Then there was the CPU with only + 5-15%, which amounts to almost nothing..

Then they went with island keyboard, while that's alrite, it's really a cost cutting move..

     - and it didn't have the BLUE  enter key..   that's really important for a thinkpad.. 



if you go out today, and bought the x230, and never use an x220,  it's probably fine..

But.  once you get an x220, you'll be like.. wow, no more steps backwards ...
you can get an X220 keyboard to put on an X230 pretty easily...

Oh.. and x230 has battery lock.. no third party batteries.. those bastards...
Title: Re: Thinkpad IBM/Lenovo retro style
Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 19 October 2014, 18:57:35
My x220

Original Lenovo Scissors (collector factor !!)

Supports DDR3  1866mhz (this matters quite a bit on a laptop that uses integrated graphics shared memory)

9cell battery + Slice battery,  doubles the 9 cell essentially


I got the x230,  at the time, i only heard the rumor that ivy was gonna be double the battery life of sandy bridge..  back of my mind, I knew that's impossible,  but I thought well if they get me another 30%, I'll be ok..   WRONG,  maybe 10-20% more batterylife TOPS

Then there was the CPU with only + 5-15%, which amounts to almost nothing..

Then they went with island keyboard, while that's alrite, it's really a cost cutting move..

     - and it didn't have the BLUE  enter key..   that's really important for a thinkpad.. 



if you go out today, and bought the x230, and never use an x220,  it's probably fine..

But.  once you get an x220, you'll be like.. wow, no more steps backwards ...
you can get an X220 keyboard to put on an X230 pretty easily...

Oh.. and x230 has battery lock.. no third party batteries.. those bastards...

just open the battery and replace the cells.

I got an answer for everything.
Title: Re: Thinkpad IBM/Lenovo retro style
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 19 October 2014, 19:07:13
My x220

Original Lenovo Scissors (collector factor !!)

Supports DDR3  1866mhz (this matters quite a bit on a laptop that uses integrated graphics shared memory)

9cell battery + Slice battery,  doubles the 9 cell essentially


I got the x230,  at the time, i only heard the rumor that ivy was gonna be double the battery life of sandy bridge..  back of my mind, I knew that's impossible,  but I thought well if they get me another 30%, I'll be ok..   WRONG,  maybe 10-20% more batterylife TOPS

Then there was the CPU with only + 5-15%, which amounts to almost nothing..

Then they went with island keyboard, while that's alrite, it's really a cost cutting move..

     - and it didn't have the BLUE  enter key..   that's really important for a thinkpad.. 



if you go out today, and bought the x230, and never use an x220,  it's probably fine..

But.  once you get an x220, you'll be like.. wow, no more steps backwards ...
you can get an X220 keyboard to put on an X230 pretty easily...

Oh.. and x230 has battery lock.. no third party batteries.. those bastards...

just open the battery and replace the cells.

I got an answer for everything.

it's really hard to do that.. and chances are you'll break some of the clips, and they won't go back together too well.. probably need super glue..  then the next time you need to do this, it'll just crack the whole thing..

/I also got an answer for everything..