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Title: Now that Noppoo Choc Mini's aren't being sold anymore...
Post by: elvar152 on Wed, 22 October 2014, 09:33:10: What are some quality alternatives? One of the features I loved about the Choc Mini's among other things was the switch lock to swap capslock with control. I'd love to find another similar keyboard equal in quality.

Kind regards,
Title: Re: Now that Noppoo Choc Mini's aren't being sold anymore...
Post by: yasuo on Wed, 22 October 2014, 09:36:10: keycool 84, kbt race ii
Title: Re: Now that Noppoo Choc Mini's aren't being sold anymore...
Post by: xuanwumen on Wed, 22 October 2014, 09:37:21: http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Noppoo-choc-mini84-POM-black-color-in-stock-black-blue-brown-red-cherry-mx-switch-shaft/818123_788345858.html
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Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 22 October 2014, 09:39:50: .
Title: Re: Now that Noppoo Choc Mini's aren't being sold anymore...
Post by: elvar152 on Wed, 22 October 2014, 09:44:05: Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 22 October 2014, 09:36:10
keycool 84, kbt race ii

Thanks, I will take a look! Do you know if it has the caps / control swap option?
Title: Re: Now that Noppoo Choc Mini's aren't being sold anymore...
Post by: elvar152 on Wed, 22 October 2014, 09:45:09: Quote from: xuanwumen on Wed, 22 October 2014, 09:37:21
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Noppoo-choc-mini84-POM-black-color-in-stock-black-blue-brown-red-cherry-mx-switch-shaft/818123_788345858.html

I saw some on that site but I thought they were all used. Maybe I overlooked. Thank you!

Regards,
Title: Re: Now that Noppoo Choc Mini's aren't being sold anymore...
Post by: yasuo on Wed, 22 October 2014, 09:56:38: Quote from: elvar152 on Wed, 22 October 2014, 09:44:05
Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 22 October 2014, 09:36:10
keycool 84, kbt race ii

Thanks, I will take a look! Do you know if it has the caps / control swap option?
no :-X
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Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 22 October 2014, 09:57:13: .
Title: Re: Now that Noppoo Choc Mini's aren't being sold anymore...
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 22 October 2014, 11:16:05: It's been replaced with nano75
(http://image.pcwaishe.cn/data/attachment/forum/201409/14/172855zqh9bhqq9vhigqri.jpg)
Title: Re: Now that Noppoo Choc Mini's aren't being sold anymore...
Post by: dorkvader on Wed, 22 October 2014, 11:18:15: Quote from: esoomenona on Wed, 22 October 2014, 09:57:13
There's always the HHKB or Realforce boards.

you cant swap capslock / control on all of them. For example, mine does not have that option.
Title: Re: Now that Noppoo Choc Mini's aren't being sold anymore...
Post by: elvar152 on Wed, 22 October 2014, 13:42:44: Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 22 October 2014, 11:16:05
It's been replaced with nano75
Show Image
(http://image.pcwaishe.cn/data/attachment/forum/201409/14/172855zqh9bhqq9vhigqri.jpg)

Bummer, it looks like they did away with a lot of the things I love about the Choc Mini. Why stop making such an excellent product. :\
Title: Re: Now that Noppoo Choc Mini's aren't being sold anymore...
Post by: Novus on Wed, 22 October 2014, 15:34:42: I didn't know choc minis weren't being made anymore.
A bit sad :/
Title: Re: Now that Noppoo Choc Mini's aren't being sold anymore...
Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 22 October 2014, 15:39:26: Quote from: esoomenona on Wed, 22 October 2014, 09:39:50
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/noppoo-choc-wireless?mode=guest_open

quoting for emphasis
Title: Re: Now that Noppoo Choc Mini's aren't being sold anymore...
Post by: rjradical on Wed, 22 October 2014, 15:40:34: There is a mass drop for one. https://www.massdrop.com/buy/noppoo-choc-wireless
Noppoo Choc Mini 2M Wireless Keyboard
Title: Re: Now that Noppoo Choc Mini's aren't being sold anymore...
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 22 October 2014, 15:52:13: Quote from: dorkvader on Wed, 22 October 2014, 11:18:15
Quote from: esoomenona on Wed, 22 October 2014, 09:57:13
There's always the HHKB or Realforce boards.

you cant swap capslock / control on all of them. For example, mine does not have that option.

IIRC the RF comes with a different caps/ctrl

at least, mine did
Title: Re: Now that Noppoo Choc Mini's aren't being sold anymore...
Post by: keyhopper on Wed, 22 October 2014, 15:53:29: Quote from: elvar152 on Wed, 22 October 2014, 09:33:10

What are some quality alternatives? One of the features I loved about the Choc Mini's among other things was the switch lock to swap capslock with control. I'd love to find another similar keyboard equal in quality.

Kind regards,

You can map CapsLock to CTRL via software, and do many interesting things with software too.

So, unless you plan on plugging the keyboard into computers that are not your own,
you might be able to relax the CapsLock <-> CTRL requirement of your KB search :)

For example:

I modified the "dvorak internatial layout" in linux by editing XKB data files, to tweak the symbol layer (better shortcuts for ñ ¡ ¿ and °C and so on for spanish), and to have no dead keys but at the same time having Right ALT be a regular ALT, instead of AltGR, so that I could still do Alt+F4 with the right alt and more.

I also turned the Menu key into a Right Super key (win key), unless depressed together with SHIFT. Useful for the Razer TE keyboard: Menu -> RWin, SHIFT+Menu -> Menu.

Though for just swapping CapsLock and CTRL, Linux KDE's control panel allows you to do that by UI with a single click.
My mappings were a bit lower level, so I haven't used that control panel section (I have mapped CapsLock -> ESC directly in my edited layout).

There is also KeyTweak for windows, that changes the KB mapping in the registry, and allows you to revert it back to how it was too.

I seem to remember that there was some microsoft tool one could use to create custom KB layouts also.

I'm not a Mac user so I can't recommend anything for Mac, but I'm sure that there is software for KB mapping there too.

The advantage of mapping at the software level, is that it will work with any keyboard that you plug in :)

Cheers!
.KeyHopper.
Title: Re: Now that Noppoo Choc Mini's aren't being sold anymore...
Post by: elvar152 on Wed, 22 October 2014, 16:12:34: Quote from: rjradical on Wed, 22 October 2014, 15:40:34
There is a mass drop for one. https://www.massdrop.com/buy/noppoo-choc-wireless
Noppoo Choc Mini 2M Wireless Keyboard

Please excuse my noobness, but what exactly is the massdrop site? They only sell once a certain amount of people want the item?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Now that Noppoo Choc Mini's aren't being sold anymore...
Post by: elvar152 on Wed, 22 October 2014, 16:14:57: Quote from: keyhopper on Wed, 22 October 2014, 15:53:29
Quote from: elvar152 on Wed, 22 October 2014, 09:33:10

What are some quality alternatives? One of the features I loved about the Choc Mini's among other things was the switch lock to swap capslock with control. I'd love to find another similar keyboard equal in quality.

Kind regards,

You can map CapsLock to CTRL via software, and do many interesting things with software too.

So, unless you plan on plugging the keyboard into computers that are not your own,
you might be able to relax the CapsLock <-> CTRL requirement of your KB search :)

I'll check out the windows program you mentioned. I have tried some in the past but the ones I tried (I don't remember their names) required a reboot in order to switch back and forth. That's where the beauty of the key toggle comes in handy. ;)

Thanks!
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Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 22 October 2014, 16:16:42: .
Title: Re: Now that Noppoo Choc Mini's aren't being sold anymore...
Post by: keyhopper on Wed, 22 October 2014, 16:30:00: Quote from: elvar152 on Wed, 22 October 2014, 16:14:57
Quote from: keyhopper on Wed, 22 October 2014, 15:53:29
Quote from: elvar152 on Wed, 22 October 2014, 09:33:10

What are some quality alternatives? One of the features I loved about the Choc Mini's among other things was the switch lock to swap capslock with control. I'd love to find another similar keyboard equal in quality.

Kind regards,

You can map CapsLock to CTRL via software, and do many interesting things with software too.

So, unless you plan on plugging the keyboard into computers that are not your own,
you might be able to relax the CapsLock <-> CTRL requirement of your KB search :)

I'll check out the windows program you mentioned. I have tried some in the past but the ones I tried (I don't remember their names) required a reboot in order to switch back and forth. That's where the beauty of the key toggle comes in handy. ;)

Thanks!

Indeed, KeyTweak does require a reboot for the changes to be applied. They will stay applied forever until you go and change them back.
Any mapping software for windows that works by rearranging the scancode map in the registry will require a reboot. Some other programs work in a different way, you might have luck with other programs.

Cheers!
.KeyHopper.
Title: Re: Now that Noppoo Choc Mini's aren't being sold anymore...
Post by: elvar152 on Thu, 04 December 2014, 10:35:35: Quote from: xuanwumen on Wed, 22 October 2014, 09:37:21
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Noppoo-choc-mini84-POM-black-color-in-stock-black-blue-brown-red-cherry-mx-switch-shaft/818123_788345858.html

For anyone still looking for one of these keyboards I just recently purchased and received mine from this vendor. It took about 35 days to receive it (shipping vendor change or something) but I got it and it was brand new as advertised.
Title: Re: Now that Noppoo Choc Mini's aren't being sold anymore...
Post by: kidanime3d on Thu, 04 December 2014, 13:11:27: Quote from: elvar152 on Wed, 22 October 2014, 09:33:10

What are some quality alternatives? One of the features I loved about the Choc Mini's among other things was the switch lock to swap capslock with control. I'd love to find another similar keyboard equal in quality.

Kind regards,

They are being sold by mister-deal through amazon, http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mechanical-Keyboard-Mx-Brown-Keycaps-International/dp/B007OK938Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1417720242&sr=8-1&keywords=noppoo+choc+mini
Title: Re: Now that Noppoo Choc Mini's aren't being sold anymore...
Post by: elvar152 on Thu, 04 December 2014, 15:09:56: Quote from: kidanime3d on Thu, 04 December 2014, 13:11:27
Quote from: elvar152 on Wed, 22 October 2014, 09:33:10

What are some quality alternatives? One of the features I loved about the Choc Mini's among other things was the switch lock to swap capslock with control. I'd love to find another similar keyboard equal in quality.

Kind regards,

They are being sold by mister-deal through amazon, http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mechanical-Keyboard-Mx-Brown-Keycaps-International/dp/B007OK938Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1417720242&sr=8-1&keywords=noppoo+choc+mini

Good deal!
Title: Re: Now that Noppoo Choc Mini's aren't being sold anymore...
Post by: elvar152 on Thu, 04 December 2014, 16:08:42: Quote from: kidanime3d on Thu, 04 December 2014, 13:11:27
Quote from: elvar152 on Wed, 22 October 2014, 09:33:10

What are some quality alternatives? One of the features I loved about the Choc Mini's among other things was the switch lock to swap capslock with control. I'd love to find another similar keyboard equal in quality.

Kind regards,

They are being sold by mister-deal through amazon, http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mechanical-Keyboard-Mx-Brown-Keycaps-International/dp/B007OK938Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1417720242&sr=8-1&keywords=noppoo+choc+mini

Just realized this vendor won't deliver to the US.... :\