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Title: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: connorelsea on Sat, 25 October 2014, 19:50:29
I've seen loads of key caps that are "blended colors" and look pretty cool. I know many of them are insanely expensive and hard to get a hold of, but where should I look to find these kind of keys or artsy keys like it. Are there any made by people other than the big name and expensive artisans? Below are some good examples.


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Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 25 October 2014, 19:52:45
The one on the left if a FN key from brocaps, and the ones on the right are julysicles from click clack.  ;)
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: connorelsea on Sat, 25 October 2014, 19:53:42
The one on the left if a FN key from brocaps, and the ones on the right are julysicles from click clack.  ;)

Yeah I know who makes the ones I posted. I was just wondering where I'd get some like them or if there were any other companies/people that made keys like them
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 25 October 2014, 20:00:05
The one on the left if a FN key from brocaps, and the ones on the right are julysicles from click clack.  ;)

Yeah I know who makes the ones I posted. I was just wondering where I'd get some like them or if there were any other companies/people that made keys like them
Either of those two are going to require hunting the classifieds. I believe nubbinator is making FN keycaps now, and they are like that. So unless click clack starts making new ones like that the only two places to look are going to be from bro caps or nubbinator.

Other than that, I don't think there are other places to get keycaps like that.
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: connorelsea on Sat, 25 October 2014, 20:02:24
Is it common for keys like that to go up on the classifieds? If so I'll keep an eye out. I'm kind of new and am looking for some pretty keys to go on my keyboard.
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: connorelsea on Sat, 25 October 2014, 20:37:48
Where would I go to get resources to make keys like this? Even just to mess around with it. I looked around online and searched through here, but couldn't really find anything on how these are made.
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 25 October 2014, 20:38:59
Where would I go to get resources to make keys like this? Even just to mess around with it. I looked around online and searched through here, but couldn't really find anything on how these are made.
Did you check the making things together sub-forum?
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: connorelsea on Sat, 25 October 2014, 20:42:01
Where would I go to get resources to make keys like this? Even just to mess around with it. I looked around online and searched through here, but couldn't really find anything on how these are made.
Did you check the making things together sub-forum?

To be honest I thought was pretty much only for modding the physical aspect of the keyboards and PCB and such. Are there parts for describing the process of making key caps? I don't seem to see anything other than this thread, which I don't really understand what this information is for. http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33496.0
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: DasHHKBProM on Sat, 25 October 2014, 20:43:39
connorelsea, that desk looks familiar think i have the same one is it IKEA?
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: connorelsea on Sat, 25 October 2014, 20:44:34
connorelsea, that desk looks familiar think i have the same one is it IKEA?

Sorry, none of those pictures are mine. I wish I owned those key caps!
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 25 October 2014, 20:44:41
I'm on my phone so I can't link them but there are some threads that are very detailed in the cap making process.
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: connorelsea on Sat, 25 October 2014, 20:46:15
I'm on my phone so I can't link them but there are some threads that are very detailed in the cap making process.

I'll have to look harder then. If anyone else can link to some I'd be very thankful. Seems very fun to toy around with.
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: KatzenKinder on Sun, 26 October 2014, 13:53:58
I'll be making some soon once more pigment comes in :)
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: connorelsea on Sun, 26 October 2014, 21:07:13
I'll be making some soon once more pigment comes in :)

Can you link me to wherever you found guides?

Also I think I might try my hand at some of these. But I'm not sure what paint will stay or what kind of coating I should use. Found these on a Google Images search and they look super cool.

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Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 26 October 2014, 21:11:10
I'll be making some soon once more pigment comes in :)

Can you link me to wherever you found guides?

Also I think I might try my hand at some of these. But I'm not sure what paint will stay or what kind of coating I should use. Found these on a Google Images search and they look super cool.

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Those are polish dipped caps.  You do fingernail polish, float it on water, make a pattern, and dip the cap into it.  Some seal it with a clear coat.
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: connorelsea on Sun, 26 October 2014, 21:23:04
Why polish? Are they made by a specific person? And I've seen people dip things, I just wasn't sure what to coat it in. Sorry for all of the questions, I'm just really interested and everyone has to start somewhere! :/
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 26 October 2014, 21:26:39
Why polish? Are they made by a specific person? And I've seen people dip things, I just wasn't sure what to coat it in. Sorry for all of the questions, I'm just really interested and everyone has to start somewhere! :/

ragnarock makes these

he still checks up here every week or so, i think he was last online on like Tuesday

shoot him a PM
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 26 October 2014, 21:40:08
Why polish? Are they made by a specific person? And I've seen people dip things, I just wasn't sure what to coat it in. Sorry for all of the questions, I'm just really interested and everyone has to start somewhere! :/

Because it works well for it.  There may be some other things people use to texturize it and such, but that's the mail one.  I believe they just clear coat it with a lacquer/varnish/polish to make it last longer.
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: connorelsea on Sun, 26 October 2014, 21:44:39
Why polish? Are they made by a specific person? And I've seen people dip things, I just wasn't sure what to coat it in. Sorry for all of the questions, I'm just really interested and everyone has to start somewhere! :/

Because it works well for it.  There may be some other things people use to texturize it and such, but that's the mail one.  I believe they just clear coat it with a lacquer/varnish/polish to make it last longer.

Ah, I thought you were saying polish as if it were part of the key cap name, since you said "polish dipped key caps" instead of "polished dipped key caps."

Thanks for the help. I'll have to order some blanks and some paint and try this out. Do you have any suggestion of where to order blanks from? I want Cherry MX but I don't know if I'll be able to get blank PBTs. I guess I could get some of the white ones from eBay but I don't know the quality of those. And is there any specific form factor I should aim for?
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 26 October 2014, 21:49:37
Pay for shipping and I have a bunch of MX ABS SP caps I can send your way.  It's shouldn't be more than $3 to ship.  I'd love to get one or two just to see your results, but don't feel obligated.

And I'm not sure how well paint holds up, I just know nail polish is a go to for it.
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: connorelsea on Sun, 26 October 2014, 21:54:16
Okay. Pm me details about how you want me to give you the money and I'll send the money and give you my boarding school's address.
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: connorelsea on Mon, 27 October 2014, 20:59:00
Gave nub my details and he's sending the caps my way. Got some nail polish to use and will test it soon. Might test it on some rubber dome caps first.

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Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: calvinhousecat on Mon, 27 October 2014, 22:24:17
Don't forget to post the finish results
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: connorelsea on Mon, 27 October 2014, 22:48:00
Really kind of disappointed with the results. I am going to have to keep trying. The problem currently is that it either globs on super thick, or that it has water bubbles or paint bubbles. If anyone has any suggestions on how to fix those issues, even if it's just an idea, please let me know.

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Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 27 October 2014, 22:48:44
The second from the right one is pretty cool looking
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: connorelsea on Mon, 27 October 2014, 22:50:19
The second from the right one is pretty cool looking

Yeah that's definitely the best one. But these are only the presentable ones. Most were globbed pieces of ****. I need to figure out a better method.
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: ConscienceDrop on Mon, 27 October 2014, 22:57:56
second from the right is looking legit.

im not sure if this process is similar to hyrodripping? but i know the case of hydrodripping there is an 'art' to how you put the pattern on smoothly.

they all seem to put it in slow and on an angle. not sure if this helps at all. youtube gives a million examples

Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: connorelsea on Mon, 27 October 2014, 23:10:14
Ther are some videos like this, but it's harder than it looks apparently. The paint drying too fast or clumping up is the problem.
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: connorelsea on Mon, 27 October 2014, 23:54:08
I think it's getting better! Will keep practicing on these rubber domes, and hopefully by the time the mechanical key caps come in, I'll be good enough to make a quality key cap.

This could have used a base coat, and then the design, but I think the application of the design has definitely improved. Hopefully it will keep doing so.

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Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: NeedAFix on Tue, 28 October 2014, 11:30:03
Just so you know, nail polish does have toxic chemicals in it so it is highly recommended to coat it with something that will not soak chemicals into your fingertips.

Those key caps look cool but I wonder how CHESSEX Dice do their magical colors and with what materials (I think I've read about it before but I don't remember off-hand):

More
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Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: corydora on Tue, 28 October 2014, 11:48:37
Not sure if you've figured this out already but - I do nail art, so. Make sure you're using filtered or distilled water, and it needs to be at room temperature, water that's too cold or hot will set your polish too fast. Also drip the polish with the brush almost touching the surface of the water - it should be able to run off the brush and onto the water without actually making a seperate drip. Not sure if this is helpful or not... Good luck! You have some great colour combos going on there.
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: NeedAFix on Tue, 28 October 2014, 12:03:48
Not sure if you've figured this out already but - I do nail art, so. Make sure you're using filtered or distilled water, and it needs to be at room temperature, water that's too cold or hot will set your polish too fast. Also drip the polish with the brush almost touching the surface of the water - it should be able to run off the brush and onto the water without actually making a seperate drip. Not sure if this is helpful or not... Good luck! You have some great colour combos going on there.

Do you know about the related toxins in nail polishes? What do you use to clear coat the keycaps to make them *less toxic* or "non-toxic"?
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 28 October 2014, 12:50:29
Everything is toxic.  Get over it.  Unless you're downing bottles of nail polish you have zero risk from it.
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: connorelsea on Tue, 28 October 2014, 13:11:38
Not sure if you've figured this out already but - I do nail art, so. Make sure you're using filtered or distilled water, and it needs to be at room temperature, water that's too cold or hot will set your polish too fast. Also drip the polish with the brush almost touching the surface of the water - it should be able to run off the brush and onto the water without actually making a seperate drip. Not sure if this is helpful or not... Good luck! You have some great colour combos going on there.

Thanks. I have had problems with it drying on top of the water too fast, and I think that was because it was too cold, and I was not using filtered water. But I will fix those two things today and try again.

Also I am having a lot of problems with making the straight lines in some of the pictures seen here. http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=64752.0;attach=80864;image

The nail polish will either be too clumpy or be too thin and be transparent, almost mixing with the polish next to it, creating mixed colors instead of the interesting straight lines that are desired. And I am also having trouble removing the excess paint on the top of the water quick enough. Currently I am having another person stand near me with two Q-Tips and having them remove the excess as quickly as possible after the cap is dipped (top down) into the paint. But commonly some of the excess will fall back down onto the key, therefore ruining the design, making it bumpy etc. Or sometimes the paint will be far too thick, making it uneven and blended instead of having straight lines.

If you can help me address any of these problems I would be very thankful. I'd love to make keys as cool and as sharp as those in the picture.
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: connorelsea on Tue, 28 October 2014, 21:39:02
I think I'm getting better. Gotta' keep practicing though. I think this is the best one yet. I'm working on minimalising the imperfections due to human error.

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Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 28 October 2014, 22:45:51
I think I'm getting better. Gotta' keep practicing though. I think this is the best one yet. I'm working on minimalising the imperfections due to human error.

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Oh yeah, these are getting really good :thumb:
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 28 October 2014, 22:49:48
I think I'm getting better. Gotta' keep practicing though. I think this is the best one yet. I'm working on minimalising the imperfections due to human error.

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Looks great! A full set of mods that look like this would be sick.
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: corydora on Wed, 29 October 2014, 12:41:12
The best advice I can think of really is to go and look up a bunch of 'water marbled nail art' videos, that's how I learned. You can see exactly what the pros are doing then, maybe that would help you with your technique! Bet you really seem to be getting the hang of it, it's just one of those things that takes practice. Lots, and lots of practice...
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: taylordcraig on Wed, 29 October 2014, 12:46:24
That latest modifier looks good.
You could be selling these in a couple of months.
Hell I bet some people would buy that key.
Keep at it!
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: connorelsea on Wed, 29 October 2014, 22:52:19
I've been practicing more and more. These are getting pretty good. There are some obvious imperfections where the paint ripped, etc, but I think these are a pretty good example of the progress. And sorry for the picture quality, the autofocus on my DSLR broke!

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Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 29 October 2014, 23:12:17
I've been practicing more and more. These are getting pretty good. There are some obvious imperfections where the paint ripped, etc, but I think these are a pretty good example of the progress. And sorry for the picture quality, the autofocus on my DSLR broke!

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The middle cap of the top row is sweet, great job.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: taylordcraig on Thu, 30 October 2014, 12:17:17
I've been practicing more and more. These are getting pretty good. There are some obvious imperfections where the paint ripped, etc, but I think these are a pretty good example of the progress. And sorry for the picture quality, the autofocus on my DSLR broke!

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The middle cap of the top row is sweet, great job.  :thumb:

My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: connorelsea on Thu, 30 October 2014, 12:21:00
> reddit

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Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 30 October 2014, 12:24:48
Oh the irony.  *****es about "humorless" people, is humorless.
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: connorelsea on Thu, 30 October 2014, 16:46:55
Got the keys from nubbinator today! Thanks so much! They all look great and this really shows how great of a community this is! But before I make tons, would anyone actually be interested in purchasing some of the really good paintes keys (without imperfections) on cherry MX keys for a low price?

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Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: Joey Quinn on Thu, 30 October 2014, 18:16:43
Got the keys from nubbinator today! Thanks so much! They all look great and this really shows how great of a community this is! But before I make tons, would anyone actually be interested in purchasing some of the really good paintes keys (without imperfections) on cherry MX keys for a low price?

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I'd be down for a few
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 30 October 2014, 18:18:45
This isn't the classifieds ;D
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: connorelsea on Thu, 30 October 2014, 18:21:45
This isn't the classifieds ;D


Should I post in the classifieds or in an artisan thread once I make the caps?
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 30 October 2014, 18:23:26
not my domain

ask a mod/admin

hoff is usually pretty receptive to this kind of stuff
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 30 October 2014, 18:33:03
Since you're creating a decent number of your own caps, I'd say artisan thread
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: Showhand on Fri, 31 October 2014, 07:03:32
I've seen loads of key caps that are "blended colors" and look pretty cool. I know many of them are insanely expensive and hard to get a hold of, but where should I look to find these kind of keys or artsy keys like it. Are there any made by people other than the big name and expensive artisans? Below are some good examples.


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Hi, may you please tell me which keycaps are (not the blended ones) the ones on the left board?
TY
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 31 October 2014, 10:47:13
I've seen loads of key caps that are "blended colors" and look pretty cool. I know many of them are insanely expensive and hard to get a hold of, but where should I look to find these kind of keys or artsy keys like it. Are there any made by people other than the big name and expensive artisans? Below are some good examples.


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Hi, may you please tell me which keycaps are (not the blended ones) the ones on the left board?
TY
Looks like just some orange realforce caps with black blanks
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: connorelsea on Sat, 01 November 2014, 01:08:39
The process is getting increasingly frustrated to me. I try my hardest to prevent imperfections, yet they still happen on each key. The colors either blend or do not apply correctly, or (most annoying) bubbles form on various parts of the key. The bubbles can be pressed down but it either a) rips the paint open entirely, or b) creates a discoloration where the bubble was pressed down.

I am getting very frustrated and discouraged, but I guess I will keep trying. It sucks to have done 30 key caps in a row, and have almost all of them look beautiful, except for a single imperfection. I might message Ragnorock asking for tips and see if he would reply, but I don't know if he is active anymore.

Examples of the imperfections on otherwise good keycaps can be seen below.

Geekhack won't let me upload images, so here. i.imgur.com/ZRw7SCy.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/ZRw7SCy.jpg)
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 01 November 2014, 01:17:19
Have you tried mixing any thinners in?  It could be the polish is too thick or low quality.  The temps or humidity could be off and the caps themselves may need some prep work.
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: connorelsea on Sat, 01 November 2014, 01:24:45
Have you tried mixing any thinners in?  It could be the polish is too thick or low quality.  The temps or humidity could be off and the caps themselves may need some prep work.

I don't see how thickness could cause a bubble? But maybe I'm confused. Would I mix the thinner in the water, or in the nail polish. And nail polish gets insanely expensive when I buy the high quality stuff. My friend and I have probably spent $40+ on supplies. And at this point I need to actually make good caps the counter those costs. The designs are turning out good, but those damn bubbles happens almost literally every time.

Do you think that guy checks his PMs?
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 01 November 2014, 01:28:05
It would be in with the polish.

Sometimes you have to use good stuff to get good results.  That or refine your technique.  And, to be honest $40 isn't much.  I spent probably $500 on resin stuff before I got to a level I found acceptable.

I don't think ragnarok is around much anymore.
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: connorelsea on Sun, 02 November 2014, 14:11:14
The problem with the bubbles was the way I lowered the cap into the water. It has to be at an angle so water does not get trapped under the paint.

Anyways, I'm going to get more colors in an hour or so to start producing the caps for real.

Taking suggestions for colors now. If anyone would like to see a certain key cap color (just for me to make, you don't have to buy if you suggest) then let me know of the colors you think would be neat. Once I make over 5, I'll put together an artisan thread. I'll do custom requests too if anyone wants them.
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: NeedAFix on Sun, 02 November 2014, 14:19:56
Green and blue, Pink and White, Blue and Purple, Red and Gold, Mixed colors and maybe even try to mess around with screens or other objects while dipping to change the effect!
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sun, 02 November 2014, 21:59:50
Purple and silver, miami theme, yellow and black but these caps look so cool that I'll probably buy one regardless of the color.
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: NeedAFix on Sun, 02 November 2014, 22:10:00
Purple and silver, miami theme, yellow and black but these caps look so cool that I'll probably buy one regardless of the color.

Yeah I have to admit they do look pretty awesome. :)
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: Lu_e on Tue, 04 November 2014, 11:40:10
Hey saw you were looking for guides on making caps, Binge put this together a while ago when he started: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46284.0
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: connorelsea on Wed, 05 November 2014, 08:07:37
I put an artisan thread up. So anybody who wanted some of the key caps can check that out. Thanks!

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65214.0
Title: Re: Artsy/Blended key caps
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 07 November 2014, 02:20:41
Another interesting post about making caps is here http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62696.0