I'm not sure about the company, but they are offering every Cherry MX switch type which is pretty awesome.
It looks pretty cool, I especially like the color of those mint caps, but that font is hideousI know, but I hope to find a way to carefully grind the logo off. It was a choice for the love for color over the disgust for the font
Looks to me like all the front printed key caps are printed in Comic Sans or *all* the keys. I could not stand that. The top printed set looks okay tho.
Looks to me like all the front printed key caps are printed in Comic Sans or *all* the keys. I could not stand that. The top printed set looks okay tho.
The only thing in comic sans is their logo on the spacebar.
So would you rather have a keycap set that's thick PBT, double-shot in your choice of color, but with Comic Sans, or thin lasered ABS with your font of choice?
So would you rather have a keycap set that's thick PBT, double-shot in your choice of color, but with Comic Sans, or thin lasered ABS with your font of choice?
Definitely the thick PBT. But when the market is not just those two options, it's pretty silly to put a commonly-disliked font on the very front of something you are trying to sell. Especially when the market has plenty of alternatives. Maybe not for PBT caps, but for cherry mx TKLS yeah.
Talked with Lekashman from MD and Varmilo is the brand that the factory that makes Leopolds is selling their stuff as. That is why the Varmilos look so much like Leopolds. They just rehashed some designs and threw an amazing font on their keys. Personally I like low profile look, I got to see one of these in person and the build quality is very good, just as good as you expect with any leopold. I think people should buy this board knowing that they are going to replace the keycaps since they are so bad.
Go Var
If these keyboards look awfully familiar, it’s because they were constructed in the same factory as the ever-popular Leopolds. Featuring nearly identical construction to the FC660M while adding in a navigation cluster and optional backlighting, the Varmilo Mechanical Keyboard lets you get close to the King without paying too hefty a tax.
Since it's made at same place that makes Leopold, did they pull the nonstandard spaced spacebar stabs nonsense on this one? If so that would make replacing the caps to the same options available to Leopolds. I do think the board itself looks nice, but dealing with a silly spacebar issue would definitely make it a no go for me.
What is the MD forum? A doctor community? :)) :)) :))Not quite sure which it is exactly, just glad it isn't all comic sans.
And the main font looks OK. What font is that?
What is the MD forum? A doctor community? :)) :)) :))
And the main font looks OK. What font is that?
Better pics of the black on this site:
http://www.chiphell.com/thread-1152260-1-1.htmlShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/56aOrLc.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/T11sRSC.jpg)
So the black, at least, uses a "normal" font. I don't even see the company logo on these. Maybe the Massdrop photos are old?
Either way, glad I joined this one.
Not just clones; made in the same factory by the same people. Essentially unbranded (but still legit/authorized) Leopolds.
If all that's missing is the name, is it still a clone? What's important in a keyboard?
According to UPS my Varmillo with Clears in Mint will be here tomorrow.
Am pleasantly surprised they beat the estimated shipping date by more than 3 weeks :thumb:
According to UPS my Varmillo with Clears in Mint will be here tomorrow.I have the mint caps on my leopold, they look great.
Am pleasantly surprised they beat the estimated shipping date by more than 3 weeks :thumb:
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mIuKPzy.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KTJ075r.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/X2lSfXS.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/DMi0h6i.jpg)
Sorry if the quality is a little low. These are just from my phone.
The backlighting came out a little blue. It's more like a "cool white" to the naked eye. I don't know if you can tell from these but the spacebar is a slightly darker shade (probably ABS) than the rest of the key caps. It still looks good.
I was surprised by the weight of it. It's heavy for a TKL, especially considering the low profile case. This is my first board with stock clears (coming from browns) so I'll have to use it for a while before I can comment on feel. Good first impression, however.
Hopefully the Pulse keyset will ship soon so I can try them on this board. :cool:
That's why Leopold changes OEM back to Taiwan (Costar) now ;)That explains why the 750 is better xD ... Well partially
I have seem Varmilo's in exactly the same layout as the Fc660 at a Chinese site. I think that is illegal due to the fact that the designer is Leopold. I dunno but this seems like a ripoff.
I got one with tactile greys from the last massdrop. The board is well-built, very solid quality.
Tactile greys are surprisingly heavy even with the thick PBT caps; the tactile bump is a little less pronounced than the stock clears from my friend's KMAC, maybe the weight of the spring overshadowed the bump of the switch. It is about 20% heavier than the greens I have (also with thick PBT caps), but I managed to acquire a higher WPM on this beauty (95) than on my greens (83).
Also it's the only board that I don't bottom out on every stroke! (oh yes I bottom out on greens)
New Special Edition boards on sale at MD
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/varmilo-special-edition (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/varmilo-special-edition)Show Image(https://massdrop-cf2.imgix.net/resizer/1500x1000/r/MD-4922_20141229162457_2e5504017fef2c66.jpg?fm=jpg&q=70)
Looks great, incredibly expensive though :'(
I got one with tactile greys from the last massdrop. The board is well-built, very solid quality.
Tactile greys are surprisingly heavy even with the thick PBT caps; the tactile bump is a little less pronounced than the stock clears from my friend's KMAC, maybe the weight of the spring overshadowed the bump of the switch. It is about 20% heavier than the greens I have (also with thick PBT caps), but I managed to acquire a higher WPM on this beauty (95) than on my greens (83).
Also it's the only board that I don't bottom out on every stroke! (oh yes I bottom out on greens)
I got one with tactile greys also; I was a little disappointed that the bump isn't as pronounced as I might prefer, as it seems sort of like a really heavy brown. I was really curious how the weight would be, but I'm still bottoming out over 95% of the time depending on how I strike the keys.
I don't find them too heavy, but the resistance is a nice overall experience. I'll probably keep it as my main...the only real problem is that their rareness is going to present a problem when having to switch back to lighter springs/switches. I'm already getting quite used to these nice heavier switches.
I got one with tactile greys from the last massdrop. The board is well-built, very solid quality.
Tactile greys are surprisingly heavy even with the thick PBT caps; the tactile bump is a little less pronounced than the stock clears from my friend's KMAC, maybe the weight of the spring overshadowed the bump of the switch. It is about 20% heavier than the greens I have (also with thick PBT caps), but I managed to acquire a higher WPM on this beauty (95) than on my greens (83).
Also it's the only board that I don't bottom out on every stroke! (oh yes I bottom out on greens)
I got one with tactile greys also; I was a little disappointed that the bump isn't as pronounced as I might prefer, as it seems sort of like a really heavy brown. I was really curious how the weight would be, but I'm still bottoming out over 95% of the time depending on how I strike the keys.
I don't find them too heavy, but the resistance is a nice overall experience. I'll probably keep it as my main...the only real problem is that their rareness is going to present a problem when having to switch back to lighter springs/switches. I'm already getting quite used to these nice heavier switches.
Oh yeah the tactile bumps are not as pronounced.... but overall tactile greys are amazing to type on.
I got one with tactile greys from the last massdrop. The board is well-built, very solid quality.
Tactile greys are surprisingly heavy even with the thick PBT caps; the tactile bump is a little less pronounced than the stock clears from my friend's KMAC, maybe the weight of the spring overshadowed the bump of the switch. It is about 20% heavier than the greens I have (also with thick PBT caps), but I managed to acquire a higher WPM on this beauty (95) than on my greens (83).
Also it's the only board that I don't bottom out on every stroke! (oh yes I bottom out on greens)
I got one with tactile greys also; I was a little disappointed that the bump isn't as pronounced as I might prefer, as it seems sort of like a really heavy brown. I was really curious how the weight would be, but I'm still bottoming out over 95% of the time depending on how I strike the keys.
I don't find them too heavy, but the resistance is a nice overall experience. I'll probably keep it as my main...the only real problem is that their rareness is going to present a problem when having to switch back to lighter springs/switches. I'm already getting quite used to these nice heavier switches.
Oh yeah the tactile bumps are not as pronounced.... but overall tactile greys are amazing to type on.
I guess the question would be ...
If you are equal parts Tactile lover and equal parts Linear lover - and you could only choose one would you choose Linear or Tactile Grays?
Gateron Yellow are supposed to be very smooth, linear, and may even be heavier (http://imgur.com/a/39DS8) than MX Super Blacks. Clocking in at 171g!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/r0wqb2Y.jpg)
Gateron Yellow are supposed to be very smooth, linear, and may even be heavier (http://imgur.com/a/39DS8) than MX Super Blacks. Clocking in at 171g!what the hellShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/r0wqb2Y.jpg)
New Special Edition boards on sale at MD
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/varmilo-special-edition (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/varmilo-special-edition)Show Image(https://massdrop-cf2.imgix.net/resizer/1500x1000/r/MD-4922_20141229162457_2e5504017fef2c66.jpg?fm=jpg&q=70)
Looks great, incredibly expensive though :'(
New Special Edition boards on sale at MDOh wow, are those compatible with phantoms?
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/varmilo-special-edition (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/varmilo-special-edition)Show Image(https://massdrop-cf2.imgix.net/resizer/1500x1000/r/MD-4922_20141229162457_2e5504017fef2c66.jpg?fm=jpg&q=70)
Looks great, incredibly expensive though :'(
Do you guys think this is worth picking up? The font bothers me unfortunately..
Do you guys think this is worth picking up? The font bothers me unfortunately..
Welcome to Geekhack!
Very long time since you joined before your first post :eek:
And on topic, MD says these are not Mac-compatible. What does that mean? Will they work at all on a Mac?
Several Mac owners have reported the Varmilo not working with their computer.
At least Ducky and a few others do it right: Start off in 6KRO standard USB and if the user wants NKRO, let them FN+something else.
Several Mac owners have reported the Varmilo not working with their computer.
At least Ducky and a few others do it right: Start off in 6KRO standard USB and if the user wants NKRO, let them FN+something else.
Several Mac owners have reported the Varmilo not working with their computer.
At least Ducky and a few others do it right: Start off in 6KRO standard USB and if the user wants NKRO, let them FN+something else.
Congratulations on 2000 posts!
I am tempted by clears with those mint green keycaps, but not if it won't work on a Mac. Maybe they pulled some stunt to get NKRO working or something along those lines - that often causes problems for Macs.
Better pics of the black on this site:
http://www.chiphell.com/thread-1152260-1-1.htmlShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/56aOrLc.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/T11sRSC.jpg)
So the black, at least, uses a "normal" font. I don't even see the company logo on these. Maybe the Massdrop photos are old?
Either way, glad I joined this one.
:eek:that thing is actually pretty nice
im stilll trying to find a vb660m
I am tempted to pick one of these up. Can anyone with one comment on how the case feels? I would likely be switching the caps out, so I am interested in the case. I like the low profile, what is the material, how does it feel, does it flex?
I'm reading around and it says Varmilo is made in the same factory as Leopold. Under the Varmilo it says Made in China, and under the Leopold it says Made in Taiwan. Do you guys think its just a label thing? I was looking forward to buying a Varmilo from Taobao if its just a rebranded Leopold.
Thanks ;D
I'm reading around and it says Varmilo is made in the same factory as Leopold. Under the Varmilo it says Made in China, and under the Leopold it says Made in Taiwan. Do you guys think its just a label thing? I was looking forward to buying a Varmilo from Taobao if its just a rebranded Leopold.
I'm also looking for this as a portable keyboard. I found a poll for the VB660M on mass drop: https://www.massdrop.com/vote/wireless-mechanical-keyboards
But who knows how long it will take/if it will ever drop, only other option I can see is taobao.
Seems like companies never have anything stocked if previous Massdrop experiences are any indication
I'm also looking for this as a portable keyboard. I found a poll for the VB660M on mass drop: https://www.massdrop.com/vote/wireless-mechanical-keyboards
But who knows how long it will take/if it will ever drop, only other option I can see is taobao.
I'm gonna wait on the Massdrop for a few more weeks... supposedly there is already communication between MD and varmilo, so hopefully something will drop soon. of course, we might have to wait months for it to ship, but maybe not if Varmilo still has stock on hand.
It looks pretty cool, I especially like the color of those mint caps, but that font is hideous
I wonder what they mean when they say this keyboard isn't compatible with Mac OS. Does it just not work at all, or is some of the functionality limited?
Only some keys work -- like 10% or less. It has something to do with the emulation Varmilo used for NKRO. It is completely incompatible with Mac OS.
Even the key cap puller has the same shape than the Leopold. Another manufacturer that steals from the company that design the product.
Even the key cap puller has the same shape than the Leopold. Another manufacturer that steals from the company that design the product.Once again, these are authorized reproductions, NOT knock-offs. Check your facts dude.
This board is available again on Massdrop as of today.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/varmilo-mechanical-keyboard
Get your Comic Sans legends while you can, people. These sales don't last forever.
This board is available again on Massdrop as of today.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/varmilo-mechanical-keyboard
Get your Comic Sans legends while you can, people. These sales don't last forever.
Actually they are something like Futura Italic, not Comic Sans :p
A shame this does not work on Mac - those minty keycaps look nice.
This board is available again on Massdrop as of today.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/varmilo-mechanical-keyboard
Get your Comic Sans legends while you can, people. These sales don't last forever.
Actually they are something like Futura Italic, not Comic Sans :p
A shame this does not work on Mac - those minty keycaps look nice.
Yeah, only the Varmilo logo is in comic sans, and it's only visible on a few key sets. But people go ape**** when they see it - like comic sans is eye poison for some people - so I wanted to rub it in a little. The reactions are hilariously over the top.
Anyone have a contact at Varmilo? Miya is gone and Cynthia has replied to an email?Hi, yes I'm in direct contact with them. The DIY should be available soon, anyway u can find on aliexpress for 130$ without switch...but the problem is the shipping from China. So do u want everything (also switch and caps)?
I heard Varmilo also offer DIY solutions, can't find it now but has anyone heard of it?
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Anyone have a contact at Varmilo? Miya is gone and Cynthia has replied to an email?Hi, yes I'm in direct contact with them. The DIY should be available soon, anyway u can find on aliexpress for 130$ without switch...but the problem is the shipping from China. So do u want everything (also switch and caps)?
I heard Varmilo also offer DIY solutions, can't find it now but has anyone heard of it?
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Thanks for the reply, I want as much as possible. Caps and switches not so much as they are easily obtainable.Anyone have a contact at Varmilo? Miya is gone and Cynthia has replied to an email?Hi, yes I'm in direct contact with them. The DIY should be available soon, anyway u can find on aliexpress for 130$ without switch...but the problem is the shipping from China. So do u want everything (also switch and caps)?
I heard Varmilo also offer DIY solutions, can't find it now but has anyone heard of it?
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