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geekhack Community => Off Topic => Topic started by: berserkfan on Sat, 08 November 2014, 23:19:54
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In the past few years I have been seeing these things in Singapore. More and more immigrants from China are dressing (or not dressing) their kids in crotchless pants.
It is quite annoying to me, especially since the parents often don't bother to toilet train the kids and they will crap everywhere.
And I'm reading about how it is also becoming common (and controversial) in other countries, leading to all kinds of tensions.
I am terribly puzzled why some people would think this sh@@ is Chinese tradition.
Normally the Chinese communities outside China but in Asia are known for being conservative and we still practice things that are banned or at least regarded as feudal in the People's Republic of China. Quite a number of people from my generation are still named after naming scrolls, for instance, so they can always identify to other members of their clan which generation they are from. (If you are from China and don't understand what I am talking about, then you're probably going to call this some feudal crap. I've had plenty of arguments with brainwashed people from China before, the kind of idiots who actually think Mao saved the country, that cultural revolution was necessary, that students were rioting on June 4 1989, etc).
But in Hong Kong, Taiwan, Singapore and other Chinese communities we're seeing more people from China let their kids run around crotchless. It's puzzling why these people will insist this is Chinese tradition. It most certainly was not the tradition a few decades ago, when Chinese in Southeast Asia were much more rural, poorer and less educated, yet people didn't think it was proper to have kids go about crotchless. Nobody from my parents generation wore crotchless clothes and they said it was not the custom for their parents either.
Crotchless pants not only attract unwanted attention from pedophiles, they're freaking undignified not to mention it's unhygenic to crap anywhere you please! Yes, in village areas decades ago some kids ran about naked, but that was for poor Malay people and they certainly did not think it was ok to bring naked kids when visiting the mosque or city.
Methinks the crotchless pants crap is a modern Chinese tradition that comes from the poverty and misery during the cultural revolution. Then the Chinese communist party brainwashed the population to think that the lack of cloths for nappies is a good thing. '肛门里面出政权‘
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WTF... I thought you were trolling before I googled it.
Pardon my ignorance, but aren't laws and rules regarding manners generally quite strict in Singapore? Why are crotchless pants in public not illegal already?
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It's a hole new problem.
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are they running around flopping their ****s around?!
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I want to Google it to see what you're talking about, but I'm afraid 'Chinese children in crotchless pants' will get me on some sort of watch list.
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hhaahahhahaahha....
Tradition not really.. This is how people rolled before diapers were a thing..
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Most hunter/gatherer or agrarian societies in the world, as well as most of the urban ones until quite recently, have kids running around naked or lightly clothed, just pooping when they need to go. It’s actually dramatically more hygienic for the kids than leaving poop in their diapers for long periods of time (or in whatever other pants/underpants, in times and places where diapers were unavailable), not to mention it wastes a lot less resources.
I agree though that having kids poop in the street stops working as well once you have very high population density, and I can imagine how it would be shocking to people living in repressed societies who are afraid of their bodies, and I can imagine how it would stoke xenophobic anxieties about new immigrants.
As for what your parents can remember about their ancestors: I suspect that their impression of historical realities is severely skewed. My parents are anthropologists, so I grew up spending lots of time hanging out with rural peasants in mud houses with dirt floors, right next to the edge of the forest. But in talking to my own aunts, uncles, grandparents, etc., basically none of them have absolutely any conception what life was like for their own ancestors in the late 19th / early 20th century, who were rural European peasants who immigrated to the US to live first in squalid immigrant neighborhoods of eastern/midwestern cities and later kept going westward and settled on farms. If I try to explain to my grandmother that her own parents basically grew up in a house pretty similar to peasant houses everywhere (rough hand-made construction, no running water or electricity, animals all around, etc. etc.) she finds it basically inconceivable. As in it’s literally impossible for her to imagine how much different her own life was from that of her parents and grandparents.
Which is to say: unless your great-great grandparents were nobility (and probably even then), I’m pretty sure they ran around ****ting all over the place as kids.
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Most hunter/gatherer or agrarian societies in the world, as well as most of the urban ones until quite recently, have kids running around naked or lightly clothed, just pooping when they need to go. It’s actually dramatically more hygienic for the kids than leaving poop in their diapers for long periods of time (or in whatever other pants/underpants, in times and places where diapers were unavailable), not to mention it wastes a lot less resources.
I agree though that having kids poop in the street stops working as well once you have very high population density, and I can imagine how it would be shocking to people living in repressed societies who are afraid of their bodies, and I can imagine how it would xenophobic anxieties about new immigrants.
As for what your parents can remember about their ancestors: I suspect that their impression of historical realities is severely skewed. My parents are anthropologists, so I grew up spending lots of time hanging out with rural peasants in mud houses with dirt floors, right next to the edge of the forest. But in talking to my own aunts, uncles, grandparents, etc., basically none of them have absolutely any conception what life was like for their own ancestors in the late 19th / early 20th century, who were rural European peasants who immigrated to the US to live first in squalid immigrant neighborhoods of eastern/midwestern cities and later kept going westward and settled on farms. If I try to explain to my grandmother that her own parents basically grew up in a house pretty similar to peasant houses everywhere (rough hand-made construction, no running water or electricity, animals all around, etc. etc.) she finds it basically inconceivable. As in it’s literally impossible for her to imagine how much different her own life was from that of her parents and grandparents.
Which is to say: unless your great-great grandparents were nobility (and probably even then), I’m pretty sure they ran around ****ting all over the place as kids.
if you can walk dogs and pooper scooper that... you can walk ur kids and pooper scooper..
it is TOTALLY way more hygienic..
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Looked.
Can't unsee.
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Most hunter/gatherer or agrarian societies in the world, as well as most of the urban ones until quite recently, have kids running around naked or lightly clothed, just pooping when they need to go. It’s actually dramatically more hygienic for the kids than leaving poop in their diapers for long periods of time (or in whatever other pants/underpants, in times and places where diapers were unavailable), not to mention it wastes a lot less resources.
I agree though that having kids poop in the street stops working as well once you have very high population density, and I can imagine how it would be shocking to people living in repressed societies who are afraid of their bodies, and I can imagine how it would xenophobic anxieties about new immigrants.
As for what your parents can remember about their ancestors: I suspect that their impression of historical realities is severely skewed. My parents are anthropologists, so I grew up spending lots of time hanging out with rural peasants in mud houses with dirt floors, right next to the edge of the forest. But in talking to my own aunts, uncles, grandparents, etc., basically none of them have absolutely any conception what life was like for their own ancestors in the late 19th / early 20th century, who were rural European peasants who immigrated to the US to live first in squalid immigrant neighborhoods of eastern/midwestern cities and later kept going westward and settled on farms. If I try to explain to my grandmother that her own parents basically grew up in a house pretty similar to peasant houses everywhere (rough hand-made construction, no running water or electricity, animals all around, etc. etc.) she finds it basically inconceivable. As in it’s literally impossible for her to imagine how much different her own life was from that of her parents and grandparents.
Which is to say: unless your great-great grandparents were nobility (and probably even then), I’m pretty sure they ran around ****ting all over the place as kids.
if you can walk dogs and pooper scooper that... you can walk ur kids and pooper scooper..
it is TOTALLY way more hygienic..
Parents already have their kids on leashes, why not have pooper scoopers too?
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I regret opening this thread.
Neighbors' pets soiling my yard annoys me .....
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I regret opening this thread.
Neighbors' pets soiling my yard annoys me .....
The solution is simple. Barge into their house and coil one off in their dog basket. Bonus points for wearing crotchless pants to do it