Post by: ynrozturk on Tue, 11 November 2014, 10:04:37
https://www.facebook.com/Vortexgear
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 11 November 2014, 10:06:51
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 11 November 2014, 10:10:02
Other than that, it looks interesting. Seems like they're saying it comes stock with a metal case?
Post by: ynrozturk on Tue, 11 November 2014, 10:12:50
Post by: heedpantsnow on Tue, 11 November 2014, 10:14:09
Post by: jinq-sea on Tue, 11 November 2014, 10:15:17
I don't mind putting in my own plate. Not a compelling upgrade from my 3 Poker X's though.
Would be ripe for a plate-mod as a PCB-mount board though, no? (Plus good for those who like opening switches in situ, I guess)
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 11 November 2014, 10:24:10
Full programmability would be the icing on the cake.
Post by: ynrozturk on Tue, 11 November 2014, 10:24:22
Post by: heedpantsnow on Tue, 11 November 2014, 10:33:11
Full programmability (including LED's, etc) would be awesome, depending on the language/tools available to do it. I have seen some that were very tedious to program; kindof takes the fun out of it.
I can't imagine that they would make it incompatible with their old cases.
Post by: Roibhilin on Tue, 11 November 2014, 10:37:06
Post by: Fragil1ty on Tue, 11 November 2014, 10:42:48
Just somewhat announced on the Vortex Facebook page.
https://www.facebook.com/Vortexgear (https://www.facebook.com/Vortexgear)
The overall keyboard looks rather nice to be honest, might have to pick one up.
Post by: Sygaldry on Tue, 11 November 2014, 10:43:54
Just somewhat announced on the Vortex Facebook page.
https://www.facebook.com/Vortexgear (https://www.facebook.com/Vortexgear)
The overall keyboard looks rather nice, don't like the visible PCB though.
Not for me ;_;, damnit.
The pictures you see now are engineering samples. Vortex responded in the FB comments that there will be a plate on the final version.
It supposedly has full programability (including full FN and PN layer programmability)
Post by: jinq-sea on Tue, 11 November 2014, 11:08:28
The pictures you see now are engineering samples. Vortex responded in the FB comments that there will be a plate on the final version.
I stand corrected then!
Post by: slickmamba on Tue, 11 November 2014, 11:11:04
The pictures you see now are engineering samples. Vortex responded in the FB comments that there will be a plate on the final version.
I stand corrected then!
Good, low profile + plateless would have been an interesting choice
Post by: HPE1000 on Tue, 11 November 2014, 11:14:02
Insta buy for me regardless but that is kinda what it seems like.
Post by: Lastpilot on Tue, 11 November 2014, 11:16:05
PCB mount in a low-profile case? I am not sold on that. I can't imagine many people want to see that red PCB. :-\Agreed. I had enough of that PCB on my Poker X lol.
Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 11 November 2014, 11:32:42
Post by: dustinhxc on Tue, 11 November 2014, 11:36:22
Post by: mogo on Tue, 11 November 2014, 11:41:45
Post by: Sygaldry on Tue, 11 November 2014, 12:45:35
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 11 November 2014, 13:13:57
Good thing I don't have to buy one.
Post by: Dubsgalore on Tue, 11 November 2014, 13:17:34
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 11 November 2014, 13:18:37
"This is an engineering sample, the final version will have a plate"
THANK YOUR DESIGNATED DEITY
Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 11 November 2014, 13:19:27
IT'S PLATE MOUNThail our lord and savior flying spaghetti monster
"This is an engineering sample, the final version will have a plate"
THANK YOUR DESIGNATED DEITY
Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 11 November 2014, 13:23:50
One thing I like about my new Ducky Mini and older Poker is the FN Arrow keys located on OKL; instead of this WASD. Maybe they can be relocated with the programmable setup.
Post by: appleonama on Tue, 11 November 2014, 13:43:07
Post by: faceyourfaces on Tue, 11 November 2014, 14:11:14
Hmm not sure how I feel about a red pcb
Are we even sure that we'll be able to see it in the final version?
Post by: Sygaldry on Tue, 11 November 2014, 14:16:38
Hmm not sure how I feel about a red pcb
Are we even sure that we'll be able to see it in the final version?
It won't be seen in the final version.
Vortex's reveal of the Poker 3, I'm finding, was handled rather poorly which goes to show that Taiwan's strengths are not in marketing. My brethren (I'm also Taiwanese) should just stick to ECE and hire out of the country for their marketing needs.
I have seen this question asked about 300 times over the course of this morning and it should have been mentioned in their initial reveal post. lol
Post by: Tiramisuu on Tue, 11 November 2014, 14:25:03
The dip switch to turn the windows key into a fn key is nice
but the PN key needs to go somewhere much less used so I can get my super key back.
Colemak in the main layer and the ability to use capslock for ctrl or backspace is another annoying piece.
That said I am finding my poker a real pleasant improvement over my trust old di novo ten keyless. I missed the bluetooth and bought a dedicated tenkey pad for the top corner of my workspace but the focus on maintianing a home row position that the 60% gives you is stellar.
If I can just get my life transferred into emacs and learn how to keep my hands off the mouse life will be gooder.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 11 November 2014, 14:27:09
it should have been mentioned in their initial reveal post. lol
They shouldn't have mentioned anything. They should have posted actual photos of the product as it will be for final production. :facepalm:
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 11 November 2014, 14:29:37
it should have been mentioned in their initial reveal post. lol
They shouldn't have mentioned anything. They should have posted actual photos of the product as it will be for final production. :facepalm:
Yeah.
I guess they're trying to build hype or something.
It's probably still a ways off.
Post by: dante on Tue, 11 November 2014, 14:46:03
Post by: byker on Tue, 11 November 2014, 15:09:15
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 11 November 2014, 15:09:26
The new PURE's are supposed to be offered with two different case options.
Post by: Coreda on Tue, 11 November 2014, 15:23:56
So it will be fully programmable?
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 11 November 2014, 15:29:21
Please don't use that logo Vortex :/ The backwards 'E' looks tacky.
So it will be fully programmable?
3 programmable layers is confirmed.
Post by: Tiramisuu on Tue, 11 November 2014, 15:47:55
The poker 2 rom is already usb flashable but Vortex has not released any kind of configurator to support it. I suspect that they do not own the underlying software and simply provide their specification to the manufacturer or some such thing.
Post by: Signature on Tue, 11 November 2014, 15:51:02
Post by: Coreda on Tue, 11 November 2014, 16:03:24
3 programmable layers is confirmed.
So, presumably the standard layer is now also programmable? What I'd love to know is if the Pn key can finally be moved.
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 11 November 2014, 16:10:54
3 programmable layers is confirmed.
So, presumably the standard layer is now also programmable? What I'd love to know is if the Pn key can finally be moved.
No, it's the standard layer, then 3 programmable layers.
Pcb mount with leds... Ruins the pcb mount advantage since you can't remove the switchtops cause the led is in the way... :I
It's platemount, these photos are of an engineering sample.
Post by: coconut monger on Tue, 11 November 2014, 16:27:02
It seems like a poor business decision to show this off so early - the Poker 2 is still enjoying healthy sales, no?
It does seem to be more of an "enthusiast" model. Lower profile case, led variability, several programmable layers...
I'd be very interested in knowing if the lower profile cases will fit the poker 2s, if they do they would present an interesting entry into the market with stock cases to paint/experiment on.
Post by: byker on Tue, 11 November 2014, 16:28:31
It seems like a poor business decision to show this off so early - the Poker 2 is still enjoying healthy sales, no?
It does seem to be more of an "enthusiast" model. Lower profile case, led variability, several programmable layers...
I'd be very interested in knowing if the lower profile cases will fit the poker 2s, if they do they would present an interesting entry into the market with stock cases to paint/experiment on.
I could see them keeping the poker 2 as a lower price point option, then having the poker 3 with the upgrades as it would be quite a bit more expensive.
Post by: GankIndustries on Tue, 11 November 2014, 18:24:51
It seems like a poor business decision to show this off so early - the Poker 2 is still enjoying healthy sales, no?
It does seem to be more of an "enthusiast" model. Lower profile case, led variability, several programmable layers...
I'd be very interested in knowing if the lower profile cases will fit the poker 2s, if they do they would present an interesting entry into the market with stock cases to paint/experiment on.
I could see them keeping the poker 2 as a lower price point option, then having the poker 3 with the upgrades as it would be quite a bit more expensive.
Didn't they do something similar with the X and the 2?
Post by: tyvar1 on Tue, 11 November 2014, 23:42:04
Post by: HipsterPunks on Wed, 12 November 2014, 00:10:14
Big fan of the low profile cases, ballsy for them to ship them stock like this though due to how easily the stems can snap now. The low profile cases can be annoyng when transporting your keyboard, catch the bottom of a cap on your bag and snap!
But i like this, just give me mouse buttons!
Post by: heedpantsnow on Wed, 12 November 2014, 07:01:25
Post by: HipsterPunks on Wed, 12 November 2014, 07:11:10
Wat! Mouse buttons!?
(http://i.imgur.com/toW244L.jpg)
These things
Post by: heedpantsnow on Wed, 12 November 2014, 07:12:48
Wat! Mouse buttons!?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/toW244L.jpg)
These things
Ahh ok thanks!
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 12 November 2014, 07:30:43
Post by: Coreda on Wed, 12 November 2014, 10:56:57
An indicator for the WASD lock will also be necessary , it's the only thing that drive me nuts on a daily usage .
A million times this. Although I'd like a setting that disables it entirely as both the layer locks are annoying when accidentally triggered.
Post by: Oobly on Thu, 13 November 2014, 15:04:06
If these things are FULLY programmable (so you can put Fn or Pn wherever you want) they should sell very well.
Standard layout, programmable, thick backlit keycaps, low profile aluminium case... yummy.
Post by: mogo on Thu, 13 November 2014, 17:23:40
Post by: bigDave on Fri, 14 November 2014, 11:49:58
New pic of the poker 3 have been posted!
Post by: mogo on Fri, 14 November 2014, 12:45:42
Post by: Freebird on Fri, 14 November 2014, 13:07:48
Post by: Latin00032 on Fri, 14 November 2014, 16:24:44
They also show the "big-ass-enter" key as an option.
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 14 November 2014, 16:25:53
They also show the "big-ass-enter" key as an option.
Close. That's ISO J-Enter, not Asian "Big Ass Enter"
Post by: Latin00032 on Fri, 14 November 2014, 16:28:23
Oops!They also show the "big-ass-enter" key as an option.
Close. That's ISO J-Enter, not Asian "Big Ass Enter"
Hopefully, there will be a hhkb type option. I doubt it though.
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 14 November 2014, 19:48:38
Hopefully, there will be a hhkb type option. I doubt it though.
Yeah, I don't see that happening. Would be cool though.
Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 14 November 2014, 20:03:27
They also show the "big-ass-enter" key as an option.
...not Asian "Big Ass
Hey, I resent that comment!
Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 14 November 2014, 20:53:01
Kinda nitpicking here, I know.
Post by: GankIndustries on Sat, 15 November 2014, 03:01:27
I would really like to see a new plate finish for the poker 3. Perhaps matte or brushed. It has the exact finish as the poker 2.
Kinda nitpicking here, I know.
Lacquer coating. I believe.
Post by: appleonama on Sat, 15 November 2014, 03:43:42
I'm already selling off some mechs to make a gon tkl crystal :thumb:
Post by: Tiramisuu on Sat, 15 November 2014, 10:45:16
- Full Keys Programming (including FN and PN)
- Cherry MX switches
- Still has 4 dip switches
- 3 layers Programmable
- LED's (individually programmable)
- Metal Case
- Metal Frame
- iso and ansi versions available
If they can hold the price down this is going to put a lot of pressure on the 60% specialty market. I'm not not a big fan of led's but it is obviously a high demand item. If fully programmable including main layer this will compete directly with even the full customs.
The metal case steps up the game tremendously. Adding another $100+ to the price of a poker has been ordering an aluminum shell for it (although truthfully the plastic poker 2 is heavy and rigid enough without). Metal Frame... With no notches and leds without sips the switches are not easily moddable but the keyboard is crisper and less liable to break. iso and ansi... Well the euros will be happy and the ability to map dvorak/colemak and a Gr key will be a big selling item.
Figure out how to mod a logitech or bluetooth wireless module and battery into this to got with my mouse and give me the ability to switch between laptop, desktop, and cell phone and I'm left obsessing over keycaps.
Wife is going to be very annoyed with me when another Poker keyboard arrives in the mail.
Post by: Coreda on Sat, 15 November 2014, 10:48:42
- Full Keys Programming (including FN and PN)
Still haven't seen confirmation of this, unless it's in the FB comments somewhere. Hoping it's true.
Post by: Tiramisuu on Sat, 15 November 2014, 10:53:14
- Full Keys Programming (including FN and PN)
Still haven't seen confirmation of this, unless it's in the FB comments somewhere. Hoping it's true.
(https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10686804_774125739321805_176194619810551951_n.jpg?oh=07577dac6528335669e63ee72883c776&oe=54E2CB21)
Post by: azhdar on Sat, 15 November 2014, 11:03:09
Post by: Tiramisuu on Sat, 15 November 2014, 11:29:58
I really don't understand the led keyboard craze. It's nice when a keyboard has backlight when it's dark so you can orient to the home row but mostly they are more distracting than helpful and doubly so when they are bright and colourful. I'm a blank pbt kind of guy.
Post by: Coreda on Sat, 15 November 2014, 11:56:53
Show Image(https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10686804_774125739321805_176194619810551951_n.jpg?oh=07577dac6528335669e63ee72883c776&oe=54E2CB21)
Hyyyyyype!
The keycaps could look better though, kind of a downgrade from the Poker II imo.
Post by: azhdar on Sat, 15 November 2014, 11:59:26
I'm personally considering breaking the solder joints on the three leds I have in my poker 2 now.I'm not crazy about leds either but if I was kbc marketing guy I'd wait another 2-3 months for a RGB poker3 because it would be high demand I guess
I really don't understand the led keyboard craze. It's nice when a keyboard has backlight when it's dark so you can orient to the home row but mostly they are more distracting than helpful and doubly so when they are bright and colourful. I'm a blank pbt kind of guy.
Post by: Tiramisuu on Sat, 15 November 2014, 12:17:52
I'm likely to wait till the reviews come in either way.
I still haven't completely adjusted to the 60% form factor so I'm not in a rush to make the switch yet but it would be nice to dump autohotkey from my list of required hacks to make my keyboard work the way I want it to.
Post by: connorelsea on Sat, 15 November 2014, 13:56:07
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/1609727_775570829177296_6729109428439500518_n.jpg?oh=b781486ef4d4739097026536782174ef&oe=551729BD&__gda__=1424521510_2119cd33cd62f89b26a555fa37df146a)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10382851_775570895843956_7315414673237774341_n.jpg?oh=e3c798aa81169512cabf5e5a08603cc9&oe=54D2C4A8&__gda__=1424419617_824b540368972ca2912f4e391d1e7930)
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 15 November 2014, 15:54:16
Hopefully they release the non led version first :D
+1 ;D
Post by: beefjerky on Sat, 15 November 2014, 17:20:20
I'm personally considering breaking the solder joints on the three leds I have in my poker 2 now.
I really don't understand the led keyboard craze. It's nice when a keyboard has backlight when it's dark so you can orient to the home row but mostly they are more distracting than helpful and doubly so when they are bright and colourful. I'm a blank pbt kind of guy.
A godsend for people who can't touch type properly actually. I know I still have to look at the keyboard. Especially for any keys that i should be hitting with my ring finger.
Post by: ynrozturk on Sat, 15 November 2014, 19:45:16
I'm not sure what kind of difference the LED's would make for typing - if you look down you still have letters on the caps, unless you're using blanks. Which you're probably not since you can't touch type.
The whole LED thing is more of a gimmick than anything else in my opinion. Looks cool for the first few days then just meh.
Post by: beefjerky on Sun, 16 November 2014, 04:03:46
So.. learn to touch type?
I'm not sure what kind of difference the LED's would make for typing - if you look down you still have letters on the caps, unless you're using blanks. Which you're probably not since you can't touch type.
The whole LED thing is more of a gimmick than anything else in my opinion. Looks cool for the first few days then just meh.
Not gonna disagree there. I don't see the use of them at night, would rather have a light directed at my keyboard than a backlight.
Also, it's a lot harder to learn at an older age compared to when you're young so while I can sort of touch type, it's imperfect and I rarely break 50 wpm myself.
Post by: SoTh on Sun, 16 November 2014, 05:26:22
Thanks!
Post by: tbc on Sun, 16 November 2014, 05:42:41
I'm personally considering breaking the solder joints on the three leds I have in my poker 2 now.
I really don't understand the led keyboard craze. It's nice when a keyboard has backlight when it's dark so you can orient to the home row but mostly they are more distracting than helpful and doubly so when they are bright and colourful. I'm a blank pbt kind of guy.
why don't you just turn them off?
the only downside to leds is when you plan on modding
Post by: DrHubblePhD on Sun, 16 November 2014, 09:53:41
Post by: Tiramisuu on Sun, 16 November 2014, 11:30:14
I'm personally considering breaking the solder joints on the three leds I have in my poker 2 now.
I really don't understand the led keyboard craze. It's nice when a keyboard has backlight when it's dark so you can orient to the home row but mostly they are more distracting than helpful and doubly so when they are bright and colourful. I'm a blank pbt kind of guy.
why don't you just turn them off?
the only downside to leds is when you plan on modding
You cant turn off the led's on the "non backlit mode" caps lock light specifically.
Post by: eyesmiles on Mon, 17 November 2014, 00:47:18
Post by: snipars on Mon, 17 November 2014, 02:03:21
Do you think they'll wait until RGB become avaible to them to make an RGB poker 3 ?
Isn't waiting the only option?
Post by: mr626 on Mon, 17 November 2014, 20:49:53
Hopefully they release the non led version first :D
+1 ;D
+ 2
Has there been confirmation that there will actually be a non-led version?
I'm another one of those people that doesn't really 'get' backlit keyboards
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 17 November 2014, 20:52:38
Hopefully they release the non led version first :D
+1 ;D
+ 2
Has there been confirmation that there will actually be a non-led version?
I'm another one of those people that doesn't really 'get' backlit keyboards
signs are pointing to LEDs only actually
but i'm mostly pulling from the chinese forums, nothing official
:triangle:
Post by: heedpantsnow on Mon, 17 November 2014, 21:05:33
Post by: Oobly on Tue, 18 November 2014, 01:22:17
Having LED's is certainly not a drawback, IMHO, as long as they don't ship it with rubbish stock backlit caps, like they did with the backlit Poker II's. Just don't turn them on if you don't want to.
Post by: bigDave on Wed, 03 December 2014, 11:15:58
(http://i.imgur.com/v2Q47YJ.png)
Post by: DrHubblePhD on Wed, 03 December 2014, 11:42:37
The Poker 3 is due February next year!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/v2Q47YJ.png)
I am super pumped now!
Post by: Sygaldry on Wed, 03 December 2014, 13:03:28
Post by: tyvar1 on Wed, 14 January 2015, 09:14:30
The Poker 3 is due February next year!Awesome! :D I hope a pexon case is better than the stock one.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/v2Q47YJ.png)
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Wed, 14 January 2015, 09:16:24
It most definitely is.The Poker 3 is due February next year!Awesome! :D I hope a pexon case is better than the stock one.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/v2Q47YJ.png)
Post by: tyvar1 on Wed, 14 January 2015, 09:20:20
Awesome! Because I heard that poker 3 having a aluminum case.It most definitely is.The Poker 3 is due February next year!Awesome! :D I hope a pexon case is better than the stock one.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/v2Q47YJ.png)
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Wed, 14 January 2015, 09:28:49
Oh! Sorry, I did not know that. Well, people seem really happy with Pexon's case, but it might be a little redundant if it already comes with one. I'm looking forward to see the quality of the stock case!Awesome! Because I heard that poker 3 having a aluminum case.It most definitely is.The Poker 3 is due February next year!Awesome! :D I hope a pexon case is better than the stock one.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/v2Q47YJ.png)
Post by: bowji on Wed, 14 January 2015, 09:45:35
Reading all the solder threads and the disheartening set-up price, Im stuck with the dilemma of choosing a premade one(pok3r) with so much new specs.
IF they do use the RGB switches, it will be a much easier choice.
Lets see it release, come on February!!
Post by: Sygaldry on Wed, 14 January 2015, 12:53:44
If this supports split backspace and split right shift layouts and they use the current Vortex/Pexon case (phenomenal case) for this then my money is as good as gone.
Post by: Joebroniee on Wed, 28 January 2015, 16:11:36
I'm super tempted by this as well.
If this supports split backspace and split right shift layouts and they use the current Vortex/Pexon case (phenomenal case) for this then my money is as good as gone.
says the hhkb master, lol, im sold on this either way, fully programmable =D
Post by: ynrozturk on Thu, 29 January 2015, 14:46:28
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu169/ynrozturk/1978833_816254001775645_459034809489169593_n_zpsvu9mpjnk.jpg) (http://s644.photobucket.com/user/ynrozturk/media/1978833_816254001775645_459034809489169593_n_zpsvu9mpjnk.jpg.html)
Post by: Tiramisuu on Thu, 29 January 2015, 16:17:06
Post by: Lord of Narwhals on Fri, 30 January 2015, 03:19:23
Post by: Oobly on Fri, 30 January 2015, 06:03:41
Show Image
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(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu169/ynrozturk/1978833_816254001775645_459034809489169593_n_zpsvu9mpjnk.jpg) (http://s644.photobucket.com/user/ynrozturk/media/1978833_816254001775645_459034809489169593_n_zpsvu9mpjnk.jpg.html)
Noice!
Looks good. I don't really care about the legends or layout since I'd replace the keycaps and reprogram the whole thing anyway.
Although I've actually already got a NerD60 in one of these cases, so... ;)
Post by: tyvar1 on Fri, 30 January 2015, 08:05:33
And they also confirmed Nordic ISO :D
Post by: inanis on Fri, 30 January 2015, 08:31:20
I like that they moved the arrow cluster but I think the legend placement looks weird since it's not the same for all keys.
I dislike that they moved the arrow cluster! I swapped capslock and FN on my Poker II and I find that using WASD as the arrows makes the most amount of sense. Does no one else use it this way? I thought it was pretty common, but maybe not.
Post by: Valen on Fri, 30 January 2015, 08:50:14
Post by: Polymer on Fri, 30 January 2015, 09:06:31
I wonder if they realize it ONLY makes sense to do IJKL if you can FN with your left hand....
Post by: inanis on Fri, 30 January 2015, 09:10:59
Post by: Polymer on Fri, 30 January 2015, 09:18:22
Post by: inanis on Fri, 30 January 2015, 09:24:33
Huh? How can you use normal arrow keys but not IJKL? It is practically the same? And it is the same as WASD except on a different side...The difference is WASD you have to shift your hands...with IJKL your hands (if you use home row) are already in position...from a typing perspective it makes perfect sense...it ends up being better (IMO) than dedicated arrow keys since you don't even have to lift your hands to a different part of the keyboard....
I dunno...it is just what feels comfortable. I don't have to shift my hands at all to use wasd. I guess I move my pinky to the fn key (which is in the capslock location) but that is it. Then it is just up, down, left right. No muss, no fuss. Now I could probably get used to ijkl too, I just don't currently...I like doing it with one hand, not two. I will try to be more opened minded! I'm a creature of habit, I find it hard to change my ways.
Post by: Tiramisuu on Fri, 30 January 2015, 11:05:47
Buying the Poker 3 is about:
1) programmability and flexibility of the first layer (colemak, nkro)
2) not having to source and solder a pcb, teensy, switches, diodes. (i don't have a solder station and I have too many unfinished projects)
If I look at the expensive korean option:
A Nerd 60 pcb is $55. with the usb/wireless combo is $110.
Switches $40
controller a356 with gon or a teensy 2.0 $30 ish
diode, wire, solder etc...
So somewhere around an additional 140-200 to get to fully programmable and optionally wireless (ignoring the fact that I might never finish assembling it)
OR
The poker 3. If they go with an aluminum case as is the rumour then $99 poker 3's on Massdrop don't seem likely. Retail could be closer to $200+
No option on the wireless module but no soldering required.
We will find out soon enough.
Post by: derb2k2 on Fri, 30 January 2015, 15:50:36
Finally, someone that is putting the arrows on IJKL...makes complete sense to do that..except no FN key on the left side (I'm sure you can change it to that).
I wonder if they realize it ONLY makes sense to do IJKL if you can FN with your left hand....
I agree with this! You are right, it makes 100% sense. If only the HHKB had the arrow cluster on IJKL. It would've been perfect!
I was already planning on getting one before but I'm excited for it now, although typing on Topres 45g has been the best typing experience for me and all I want to do is type on topre!
Post by: Polymer on Sat, 31 January 2015, 20:00:26
Well I can see people liking that if they want to use one hand...but you're still shifting your hand (I guess that depends how you type..for "proper" form your pinky is on A...not that you have to type that way...But it isn't you lack the flexibility or size of your hands..you're just thinking about using it the way you do today..which for most people would be impossible if you want to use your left pinky for FN and IJKL with the rest of your left hand..Huh? How can you use normal arrow keys but not IJKL? It is practically the same? And it is the same as WASD except on a different side...The difference is WASD you have to shift your hands...with IJKL your hands (if you use home row) are already in position...from a typing perspective it makes perfect sense...it ends up being better (IMO) than dedicated arrow keys since you don't even have to lift your hands to a different part of the keyboard....
I dunno...it is just what feels comfortable. I don't have to shift my hands at all to use wasd. I guess I move my pinky to the fn key (which is in the capslock location) but that is it. Then it is just up, down, left right. No muss, no fuss. Now I could probably get used to ijkl too, I just don't currently...I like doing it with one hand, not two. I will try to be more opened minded! I'm a creature of habit, I find it hard to change my ways.
My actual thoughts would be I'd use my left thumb for FN (which hopes you can dip switch the alt key to that) and then just use the arrows with IJKL with not moving my hands off home row and it is the same as using arrow keys today. Granted, I can use my left hand but I don't like the idea of shifting my hands...Just personal preference really..
Post by: ideus on Sat, 31 January 2015, 20:05:04
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Post by: STARLORDCOFFEE on Tue, 03 February 2015, 00:37:27
Post by: tyvar1 on Thu, 19 February 2015, 08:50:25
Post by: hyperboloid on Thu, 19 February 2015, 09:18:00
Any more news ? :)
Maybe after the Chinese holidays will be news... Try to monitor official Vortex FB page (https://www.facebook.com/Vortexgear).
Post by: SoTh on Thu, 19 February 2015, 09:34:12
Post by: Sygaldry on Thu, 19 February 2015, 09:44:39
Lol yeah, you're right. I might have to pass on this. I have 110 switches lying around waiting for a board to put them on so this isn't my next keyboard purchase =(I'm super tempted by this as well.
If this supports split backspace and split right shift layouts and they use the current Vortex/Pexon case (phenomenal case) for this then my money is as good as gone.
says the hhkb master, lol, im sold on this either way, fully programmable =D
Post by: Oobly on Fri, 20 February 2015, 02:49:46
Lol yeah, you're right. I might have to pass on this. I have 110 switches lying around waiting for a board to put them on so this isn't my next keyboard purchase =(I'm super tempted by this as well.
If this supports split backspace and split right shift layouts and they use the current Vortex/Pexon case (phenomenal case) for this then my money is as good as gone.
says the hhkb master, lol, im sold on this either way, fully programmable =D
GON NerD60 PCB, stabilisers and universal 60% plate + Case from Pexon = Better than this :) Maybe even for less overall cost.
Post by: lolkey on Tue, 24 February 2015, 14:34:32
http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2wz671/poker_3_pricing_and_release_date_new_info/
Post by: lolkey on Tue, 24 February 2015, 14:35:14
There is someone on Reddit claiming these will be $109-$119. Bit hard to believe, aren't the plastic case ones $110 shipped from MassDrop?
http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2wz671/poker_3_pricing_and_release_date_new_info/
Post by: Tiramisuu on Mon, 16 March 2015, 06:33:48
Fully programmable and available without all the usual geekhack piecemeal buys and delays is very appealing.
Post by: Bucake on Mon, 16 March 2015, 09:59:24
Post by: ideus on Mon, 16 March 2015, 10:52:42
Lol yeah, you're right. I might have to pass on this. I have 110 switches lying around waiting for a board to put them on so this isn't my next keyboard purchase =(I'm super tempted by this as well.
If this supports split backspace and split right shift layouts and they use the current Vortex/Pexon case (phenomenal case) for this then my money is as good as gone.
says the hhkb master, lol, im sold on this either way, fully programmable =D
GON NerD60 PCB, stabilisers and universal 60% plate + Case from Pexon = Better than this :) Maybe even for less overall cost.
A Nerd60 pcb with stabs, resistors, and diodes is over $90 USD and you should solder the resistors and diodes, if you want a plate and a case you will be around $200. Add to it your own switches and caps, and it will be over $300. Of course, it is a totally different board, than a stock one like the Pok3r. One PCB is on its way to my door now, I already have a case, the switches and caps; but no, it is not in the same market than a Pok3r.
Post by: dustinhxc on Mon, 16 March 2015, 13:03:37
Vortex, you Know WHATS UP! :thumb:
Post by: Dark_wizzie on Thu, 26 March 2015, 00:19:31
Anyways, how do Pexon cases stack up against a Tex case? (Something like this http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=627)
And Vortex isn't the same as Tex, is it? Weird how they make similar cases and have similar names.
Post by: sdiearly on Thu, 26 March 2015, 01:35:02
It's the end of March. :(
Anyways, how do Pexon cases stack up against a Tex case? (Something like this http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=627)
And Vortex isn't the same as Tex, is it? Weird how they make similar cases and have similar names.
Because TEX guys are Vortex member originally, now they are split
Post by: Sencha on Thu, 26 March 2015, 04:29:13
Post by: heedpantsnow on Thu, 26 March 2015, 14:33:57
It's the end of March. :(
Anyways, how do Pexon cases stack up against a Tex case? (Something like this http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=627)
And Vortex isn't the same as Tex, is it? Weird how they make similar cases and have similar names.
Because TEX guys are Vortex member originally, now they are split
OK, I always wondered what happened. What happened?
Post by: illitirit on Thu, 26 March 2015, 18:26:51
Post by: Altis on Thu, 26 March 2015, 20:48:35
Here's a little typing vid
I'm going to be honest.... I don't think it sounds that great... quite plasticky and hollow sounding. And that's with a towel underneath it, so it's at its best.
I've noticed that keyboards that don't have a lip around the base of the keys seem more likely to sound a little more like this.
Post by: ideus on Thu, 26 March 2015, 20:55:44
Post by: Sencha on Fri, 27 March 2015, 04:33:42
Here's a little typing vid
I'm going to be honest.... I don't think it sounds that great... quite plasticky and hollow sounding. And that's with a towel underneath it, so it's at its best.
I've noticed that keyboards that don't have a lip around the base of the keys seem more likely to sound a little more like this.
Yeah I thought the space bar sounded off as well. I just got a korean made FC660m which is incredibly well made. Far better then my pokers so I'll wait full reviews before jumping in myself.
Post by: ynrozturk on Wed, 08 April 2015, 10:21:41
Post by: ideus on Wed, 08 April 2015, 11:17:01
Here's a little typing vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_4ngJzKY_s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_4ngJzKY_s)
I'm going to be honest.... I don't think it sounds that great... quite plasticky and hollow sounding. And that's with a towel underneath it, so it's at its best.
I've noticed that keyboards that don't have a lip around the base of the keys seem more likely to sound a little more like this.
Yeah I thought the space bar sounded off as well. I just got a korean made FC660m which is incredibly well made. Far better then my pokers so I'll wait full reviews before jumping in myself.
Leopolds are like tanks.
Post by: hasu on Thu, 09 April 2015, 03:53:44
Just sayin...
Post by: ctm on Thu, 09 April 2015, 09:09:00
From video it looks like MCU is Holtek Cortex. And Poker2 also has same, IIRC.Any possibility of flashing in custom firmware to Holtek Cortex?
Just sayin...
Post by: Jixr on Thu, 09 April 2015, 12:22:38
Post by: Giorgio on Fri, 10 April 2015, 12:19:16
Why? Is it too rigid with the plate? It's gonna be a long task since you need to desolder and then solder each switch...
i see the pcb supports pcb mounted switches, but can't tell if you can use pcb stabilizers. I'm deff going to get one if i can ditch the plate.
Post by: Tiramisuu on Fri, 10 April 2015, 16:40:30
From video it looks like MCU is Holtek Cortex. And Poker2 also has same, IIRC.Any possibility of flashing in custom firmware to Holtek Cortex?
Just sayin...
It is possible to flash the poker 2 rom. The problem is no one has reverse engineered it.
Colemak on the poker 2 should be as easy as modding the bin and re flashing.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 10 April 2015, 20:08:51
Post by: Sencha on Sat, 11 April 2015, 02:40:23
Post by: Giorgio on Sat, 11 April 2015, 03:26:44
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Post by: Giorgio on Fri, 17 April 2015, 06:56:29
Post by: childofthehorn on Fri, 14 August 2015, 13:33:57
Post by: Giorgio on Fri, 14 August 2015, 15:44:03
You can't remove the tops. There are no cutouts in the plate.
Hey guys, I am having a lot of issues with getting the tops pulled off on my pok3r to change out the springs. It looks like it should, but NONE of the tops are opening up at all!
Post by: Giorgio on Fri, 14 August 2015, 15:45:07
Does Vortex have a webpage? Only thing i have found is a Facebook page... :rolleyes:
Post by: Herothereu on Fri, 14 August 2015, 16:35:53
Post by: jerue on Fri, 14 August 2015, 20:35:17
Anybody know when the backlit version is shipping?
bruh
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Post by: Zorox on Wed, 19 August 2015, 05:52:31
Anybody know when the backlit version is shipping?
Vortex answered me that the ISO backlit will ship at around December :(
Post by: SoTh on Thu, 03 March 2016, 05:36:15
Post by: Zorox on Tue, 08 March 2016, 19:22:39