I am about to pull the trigger on G84-4100, are these better for gaming then the other technologies? do they require more or less force then others? Is their delay / response time better then others? What about their travel distance
Unfortunately, do to the highly tactile nature of keyboards, it is hard to make a recommendation for someone else.
If you want tactile feedback, the Cherry Brown (Or White, for more resistance) or buckling springs is what I would recommend.
If you don't want feedback, get the Cherry Black switches.
Depending on how much force you generally use when typing is an important factor to what keyswitch you may want to use.
Heavier typists might prefer the buckling spring keyboards, which offer more resistance than most Cherry switches. Alternatively, heavy typists might also like the white Cherry switches.
Lighter typists are more fond of the Cherry brown and Topre switches. For such quick succession, I'd recommend the Cherry switches over the Topre, simply because a switch springs back faster than a dome (Not that I've had any experience with Topre).
The Cherry ML are probably similar to what you are used to, but I've never heard too much about them, other than they are about half the profile of the MX switches.
From what I've read about them. they're low profile switches - they're kinda like laptop keyboards, except obviously more solid. If you do a search on either the G84-4100 or Cherry MLs you'll see some threads where both are discussed in detail. A few people around here have them and as far as I know they liked them.
Well, the best gaming board would have 6-key rollover but unfortunately nobody seems to ship one for less than $100. (except the Filco Zero and in Dubai you're going to pay lots for shipping).
Is the iRocks 6820 (http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:6248) available from retailers near you??Show Image(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=2739&d=1245456667)
It really doesn't matter to me If it doesn't have Full NKRO, even 2 NKRO is enough for my requirements because unlike fps u don't need simultaneous key presses in RTS(Starcraft / Warcraft3). FPS players have certain keys pressed the entire time (strafejumping, etc), but for RTS you just have to press the keys quickly and let go and move on to doing something else instantly. In other words there will not be anytime where two keys will be pressed together.
Most so-called "gaming" keyboards are optimized towards FPS games. If you are using it for RTSs, just about any mechanical keyboard will do you, which means that you could consider some common mechanical keyboards like the Model M or the Dell AT101W. Unless of course you have a preference for short-travel switches...
EDIT: Here's what looks like a good Model M from a reputable seller, it has $50 shipping to Dubai
Link (http://cgi.ebay.ie/MINT-1991-IBM-Model-M-Clicky-Keyboard-1391401-Unit-202_W0QQitemZ140334614616QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPCA_Mice_Trackballs?hash=item20ac984858&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A2|66%3A2|39%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50)
Most so-called "gaming" keyboards are optimized towards FPS games. If you are using it for RTSs, just about any mechanical keyboard will do you, which means that you could consider some common mechanical keyboards like the Model M or the Dell AT101W. Unless of course you have a preference for short-travel switches...
EDIT: Here's what looks like a good Model M from a reputable seller, it has $50 shipping to Dubai
Link (http://cgi.ebay.ie/MINT-1991-IBM-Model-M-Clicky-Keyboard-1391401-Unit-202_W0QQitemZ140334614616QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPCA_Mice_Trackballs?hash=item20ac984858&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A2|66%3A2|39%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50)
gunman, if you want to order from places other than ebay you can sign up for Aramex Shop-n-Ship (http://www.aramex.com/shopandship/Default.aspx). They give you an address in New York to send things to, and anything that gets shipped there automatically gets shipped to you in Dubai.
Thanks for the info Manyak, but the sign up cost is a little too high. are you by any chance from dubai aswell?
I see that you have Cherry ML (4100), and Cherry browns (compaq/ IRock) and black apls (Dell). Which out of those do you think feels lighter / responsive.
So far I am leaning towards G84-4100 / Filco Tenkeyless / iRock 6230
Thanks for the info Manyak, but the sign up cost is a little too high. are you by any chance from dubai aswell?
I see that you have Cherry ML (4100), and Cherry browns (compaq/ IRock) and black apls (Dell). Which out of those do you think feels lighter / responsive.
So far I am leaning towards G84-4100 / Filco Tenkeyless / iRock 6230
Nonstandard key spacing? That would be a killer for me. Bad enough transitioning back and forth to laptops.
Those silly Koreans. No, definitely Blue Cherry. I had one once. (well twice, but it's a long story....)
I blame the Brits for our Imperial system.
I'm waiting for everyone to realize that the following keyboards are compete hunks of junk:
Japanese M Mini
Matching Numpad
NeXt Keyboard (I want the keys, will throw the keyboard away)
Anything with Blue Cherries
Almost anything with Brown Cherries
EVERYTHING with Buckling Springs
Will take off your hands without a recycling fee. We can negotiate shipping.
I'm waiting for everyone to realize that the following keyboards are compete hunks of junk:
Japanese M Mini
Matching Numpad
NeXt Keyboard (I want the keys, will throw the keyboard away)
Anything with Blue Cherries
Almost anything with Brown Cherries
EVERYTHING with Buckling Springs
Will take off your hands without a recycling fee. We can negotiate shipping.
I need your help guys, I am getting a NIB I-Rock 6230 for $95 shipped (shipping cost alone is between 20-30). should I get it or wait for a used Filco Cherry Browns, for some reasons you guys love Filco and I don't want to be left out. Brand New Filco is too expensive for me. By the way I am also getting NIB g84-4100 for $40 shipped is that a good deal, unfortunately it has windows key, meaning smaller space bar.
I need your help guys, I am getting a NIB I-Rock 6230 for $95 shipped (shipping cost alone is between 20-30). should I get it or wait for a used Filco Cherry Browns, for some reasons you guys love Filco and I don't want to be left out.
You have to remember that the i-Rocks is a new product. Before it came out, the Filco was pretty much the only choice people had when it came to a new keyboard with brown Cherry switches. Also people liked how compact it was, but the iRocks is about the same size. Filcos are considered to be quite well built, but nobody has had any issues with the iRocks yet, so you don't have much to worry about.
The other big deal with the Filcos were the ones with the blue Cherry switches. Before they came out, the choice for keyboards with blue Cherry switches was the Scorpious M10 or the Das Keyboard, both of which have reliability and build quality issues.
OT: Everytime I read the title to this thread, I think it's a thread on religious experiences. I guess, in a way, keyboards are the religion around here.
That's scary. I need a new hobby.
You have to remember that the i-Rocks is a new product. Before it came out, the Filco was pretty much the only choice people had when it came to a new keyboard with brown Cherry switches. Also people liked how compact it was, but the iRocks is about the same size. Filcos are considered to be quite well built, but nobody has had any issues with the iRocks yet, so you don't have much to worry about.
The other big deal with the Filcos were the ones with the blue Cherry switches. Before they came out, the choice for keyboards with blue Cherry switches was the Scorpious M10 or the Das Keyboard, both of which have reliability and build quality issues.
Wow, I just realized I have been around here for over a year. I, obviously, have a pretty boring, easy job.
The year isn't the part I would worry about - it's the 2879 posts...
I, obviously, have a pretty boring, easy job.
You say this almost as if it's a bad thing...
On the other hand, I can hang out here all day and make completely pointless, off-topic posts derailing otherwise valuable threads.
Ah, so you're honing your skills for a management position! :biggrin: