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Title: eBay Germany discussion (was: [.de] A few Cherry finds)
Post by: keyb_gr on Thu, 23 July 2009, 04:32:18
Not too many hot deals out there currently, but here's what might be interesting:

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=120449466475
Looks like a G80-1000 of some sort. [Ended with no bids.]

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=250470686560
Relisted, G80-1000HAD. Some case yellowing.

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=150360636170
Looks like an old G81-3000.

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=300331256068
A Peacock Cherry with 1000 case in need of good cleaning. These typically are G81s but with two-shot molded keycaps.

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=220454071916
Judging by the weight, this cardreader-equipped model should be a G81.

http://cgi.ebay.de/6-Tastaturen-Cherry-Layout-Deutsch_W0QQitemZ200365390790QQcmdZViewItem
6 partly dirty boards, the ones with Cherry label should be G81s. I wonder who's supposed to buy half a dozen only moderately interesting and dirty boards at a time.

http://cgi.ebay.de/Tastatur-alt-voll-funktionsfaehig_W0QQitemZ260447508620QQcmdZViewItem
OEM G81-3000, ca. 2003...2007

Not a Cherry:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=280374208317
Not sure what this is, some early rubber dome? It's missing some keys anyway.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: mr-shoeless on Mon, 27 July 2009, 22:49:24
Is the G81-3000 desirable for some reason? Because I have one and I have to say it is like typing on a baked potato.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Tue, 28 July 2009, 04:26:32
Quote from: mr-shoeless;104923
Is the G81-3000 desirable for some reason? Because I have one and I have to say it is like typing on a baked potato.

That's not too far off. At least you don't wear them out easily (but beware with liquids).
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Mon, 03 August 2009, 15:10:24
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250473447906&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
G81-8015LQADE - with smart card reader for home banking application

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300335192405&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
G80-3000HAD "like new". Mine (well-used and obviously not "like new") took me about 2 hours to clean thoroughly.
Seems like he has about 4 of them.

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150362628349&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Vintage G80-0681. From the layout I'd guess it's an AT board (or XT/AT selectable) but don't take my word for it.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Mon, 03 August 2009, 15:30:19
Quote from: keyb_gr;106578
Vintage G80-0681. From the layout I'd guess it's an AT board (or XT/AT selectable) but don't take my word for it.

Thanks for linking this one.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lal on Tue, 04 August 2009, 06:32:37
Quote from: lowpoly;106591
Quote
[...G80-0681...]
Thanks for linking this one.


You're going to rescue this one, lowpoly?  Then I'll pass.  Otherwise...
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Tue, 04 August 2009, 07:11:45
Don't know yet. The last one I watched went pretty high, like €80,-.

Go for it if you want it.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lal on Tue, 04 August 2009, 07:39:01
Ummh...  I'm feeling obliged to take over the care for this antique and save it from rotting somewhere else.  I'd place a bid for something like 5€ max.  If it goes significantly higher it'll be some caring collector probably so it's safe anyway :)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Tue, 04 August 2009, 09:42:10
Nice board. If you guys are going for it I will pass. Picked up most of the 1 Euro G80s linked in this topic.

BTW: Either of you picked up that (non linked) brand new G80-1000 with the Cyrillic print? It ended for something around 170 Euro. I was impressed.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Tue, 04 August 2009, 10:11:57
Quote from: sixty;106828
BTW: Either of you picked up that (non linked) brand new G80-1000 with the Cyrillic print? It ended for something around 170 Euro. I was impressed.

Ouch. No, new boards usually aren't on my radar. But 170, wow, makes you think it was gold plated or something. (Well, for the seller, it was. :D) Which revision was it? Got a link?
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Tue, 04 August 2009, 10:18:10
Quote from: sixty;106828
BTW: Either of you picked up that (non linked) brand new G80-1000 with the Cyrillic print? It ended for something around 170 Euro. I was impressed.

Wow.

There are collectors out there who have never heard about geekhack.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Tue, 04 August 2009, 10:23:41
Sorry. My bad. It was G80-3000 and "only" 151 Euro.

(http://www.schlotti-beyer.de/img2/013507.jpg)
(http://www.schlotti-beyer.de/img2/013507a.jpg)
(http://www.schlotti-beyer.de/img2/013507b.jpg)

Auction is here:
http://cgi.ebay.de/Cherry-Tastatur-G80-3000-US-English-Goldkontakte-OVP-k_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ65Q3a12Q7c66Q3a2Q7c39Q3a1Q7c72Q3a1229Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem35a25395b5QQitemZ230356653493QQptZMQc3Qa4useQ5fTastaturenQQsalenotsupported

Funny thing is that the same board appeared a bit later on KBDMania (check out latest posts there, some guy is selling the Cyrillic keycaps i think). I wonder if this actually went to Korea or if that was just a coincidence.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Tue, 04 August 2009, 10:30:39
Here's another one:

http://cgi.ebay.de/Cherry-Tastatur-G80-3000-US-English-Goldkontakte-OVP-k_W0QQitemZ230363379029QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item35a2ba3555&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 04 August 2009, 10:32:44
Not that I'm interested, but does anybody know the year of manufacture on these 'boards (the Cyrillic ones, that is)?  The case design looks fairly old.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Tue, 04 August 2009, 10:36:20
Since they still say "West Germany", it was probably made before 1989.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Tue, 04 August 2009, 10:38:29
And according to Wikipedia the IBM PS/2 was introduced 1987.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 04 August 2009, 10:42:54
Quote from: sixty;106847
Since they still say "West Germany", it was probably made before 1989.

Looks like it as it's kinda Model M-esque.  It even has a coiled cord (which I like on the older keyboards).
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Tue, 04 August 2009, 10:54:31
Quote from: itlnstln;106853
Looks like it as it's kinda Model M-esque.


They still use this case today. The only signifcant change on the outside is the LED area.

The 1000 case was heavily inspired by the Model M.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Tue, 04 August 2009, 11:03:45
Quote from: sixty;106847
Since they still say "West Germany", it was probably made before 1989.

So I also used to think. But as my reviewed G81-1000 showed, they still wrote this in 1991 - by 1992 it definitely was "Made in Germany" though.

3000 series boards were introduced in 1991 AFAIK, so this would be an early production sample.

Interesting keycaps. I'd think the black lettering is the regular two-shot molded type while the red lettering is dye impregnated.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: CX23882 on Tue, 04 August 2009, 11:15:20
There's something different about the keycaps on those older Cherry G80-3000 boards. Are the corners less rounded than on newer ones, or is it an optical illusion due to my board having black keys?
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Tue, 04 August 2009, 13:53:32
I dug out lowpoly's pics of modern-day black keycaps and pulled one from a G80-3000HAD - no significant differences there. The keycaps on the oldies come off quite easily though.

Cables with long coiled sections apparently were standard back then.

It be mentioned that 104/105-key boards have a lower bottom row. So between my two 1996 vintage G80s, the bottom row height is different (along with the key count, obviously).
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Tue, 04 August 2009, 15:56:18
http://cgi.ebay.de/Tastatur-Deutsch_W0QQitemZ220459094812QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen
I didn't know these Fujitsus also came in black.

With a bunch of exhibition G80-3000HADs floating around, the next weekend might not be the worst time for someone to get started in mechanical boards.

http://cgi.ebay.de/Computertastatur_W0QQitemZ280380298271QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen
Another of these Peacock G81-3000HADs, it seems.

http://cgi.ebay.de/Tatstatur-Keyboard-Dell-AT102DW_W0QQitemZ160353094119QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen
I guess most of you have already spotted this Dell...
http://cgi.ebay.de/Marquardt-ergonomische-Tastatur-an-Bastler-oder-Sammler_W0QQitemZ160352486871QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen
...and this defective Marquardt.

http://cgi.ebay.de/PC-Tastatur-von-Gateway_W0QQitemZ300335750478QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen
Funny-looking Gateway board, no clue whether it's any good, pickup only.

http://cgi.ebay.de/Olivetti-Tastatur_W0QQitemZ140337730822QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen
Olivetti ANK27-102 board - mechanical?
The ANK27-106J (http://www5f.biglobe.ne.jp/~silencium/keyboard/html/otherpc.html#olivetti) is a rubber dome but looks quite different.

http://cgi.ebay.de/Tastaturtasten-von-drei-Tastaturen-fuer-Bastler_W0QQitemZ370240290181QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen
A bunch of keys and rubber domes from 3 boards - maybe good for some fun
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lal on Wed, 05 August 2009, 12:52:22
Quote from: keyb_gr;106985
http://cgi.ebay.de/Tastatur-Deutsch_W0QQitemZ220459094812QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen
I didn't know these Fujitsus also came in black.

Are you sure these were made by Fujitsu?  I scored this exact board some time ago and couldn't find any hint about the OEM (it's Escom branded), only a strange model number, as in NX680-375-89 or something like that.  Didn't bother to take notes or pics because it's rubber dome.

Thanks for the links BTW!
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Wed, 05 August 2009, 13:54:32
Quote from: lal;107225
Are you sure these were made by Fujitsu?
The case shape with the wide front lip, key-integrated status indicators and ferrite on the cable are a dead giveaway. Here's a FKB4700 (http://park16.wakwak.com/~ex4/kb/main_fujitsu_fkb4700.htm) for comparison. This one has a P/N of N860-4700-T601, so the middle number seems to specify the model. Fujitsu Peerless. The Escom board looks a little different but still very close overall. Sure it's a rubber dome and not a Peerless mechanism (with spring on top, which should be plainly audible)?

You gotta admit, as big and funky-looking these boards are, they do have some style. (Might be a nice eyecatcher at a LAN party. :D) Did you pull a key some time? I wonder what kind of lettering these things use. I suspect two-shot molding but that should be visible underneath.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Wed, 05 August 2009, 16:42:19
Honestly I don't get why people still use such endless disclaimers these days. It's stupid. Especially when the one who wrote the text years ago only had half a clue about legal terms. Stating that you're an individual and grant no further rights in terms of return or warranty would do. (You have to exclude it explicitly, otherwise the usual warranty period applies.)

The translation is... garbled indeed.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Wed, 05 August 2009, 17:05:43
This EU law quote isn't true. But it won't die like an urban legend.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Rajagra on Wed, 05 August 2009, 17:09:56
"For PC, XT, AT and PS/2 systems."

You don't see that often.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: o2dazone on Wed, 05 August 2009, 17:12:47
Quote from: Rajagra;107311
"For PC, XT, AT and PS/2 systems."

You don't see that often.


ya but does it work with the PS/3 or XBox?
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: huha on Wed, 05 August 2009, 17:33:52
Quote from: keyb_gr;107248
You gotta admit, as big and funky-looking these boards are, they do have some style. (Might be a nice eyecatcher at a LAN party. :D) Did you pull a key some time? I wonder what kind of lettering these things use. I suspect two-shot molding but that should be visible underneath.


My Epson (http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:6117) doesn't use 2-shot molded keycaps.

-huha
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Thu, 06 August 2009, 03:02:49
Quote from: huha;107319
My Epson (http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:6117) doesn't use 2-shot molded keycaps.

OK, could also be dye sublimation of course. Black always is a different story though.

BTW, that review needs more [strike]cowbell[/strike] pics, especially one of the complete board.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lal on Thu, 06 August 2009, 04:01:05
Quote from: keyb_gr;107248
The case shape with the wide front lip, key-integrated status indicators and ferrite on the cable are a dead giveaway. Here's a FKB4700 (http://park16.wakwak.com/~ex4/kb/main_fujitsu_fkb4700.htm) for comparison. This one has a P/N of N860-4700-T601,


Yeah, the model number had a pattern exactly like that, so the OEM of the Escom is definitely Fujitsu.  It has the wide front lip, yes, but there's a deep groove above the function keys, unlike the FKB4700.

Quote from: keyb_gr;107248
The Escom board looks a little different but still very close overall. Sure it's a rubber dome and not a Peerless mechanism (with spring on top, which should be plainly audible)?


I'm 100% positive that the sample I got, and which looked from the outside exactly like the one in the auction you linked to, was a boring standard rubber dome.  *Of course* I immediately popped a key and looked straight onto a white gummy rubber dome.  No spring, no click whatsoever.  Which was very disappointing because...

Quote from: keyb_gr;107248
You gotta admit, as big and funky-looking these boards are, they do have some style.


...that is true.  I was hoping for more.  I dumped it the other day.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Thu, 06 August 2009, 07:11:03
Might be fun to mod some black G80-3000 innards into that one though. I'd think the key pitch and stuff should match.

EDIT: Hmm, do black 102-key G80s exist? Shouldn't be that hard to hack the Fujitsu case, but it would be an additional complication.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Fri, 07 August 2009, 15:35:32
Some more fun stuff:

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330336768839&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Need an Any Key? Here it is.

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170368322123&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330349577896&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Some 50-something key gaming pads

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230363375853&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
I was contemplating placing a bid for this G80-3700HAADE keypad, but someone else already did (at 9,99 minimum) so I guess this might be more for the deeper-pocketed folks.

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160352477501&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
A Qtronix board that's got the blues - MX blues.

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250478207222&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Postal service RS232 keyboard
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Sat, 08 August 2009, 09:07:45
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280380482664&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Monterey K208 (FCC ID KD46AK208) - what's this, mechanical or rubber dome? Looks similar to Bollwerk's K104, thus I was contemplating bidding on it.
Here's a pic of the newer K208W (http://www.allproducts.com/manufacture2/monterey/k208w1.jpg) with Windows keys. Spill resistant, not too promising that.
Apparently only the K108W had "mechanical tactile-click key-switches":
http://www.allbusinessesindex.com/manufacture2/monterey/k108w.html
The K208W has "membrane tactile switches" (rubber domes), rated for 20 million cycles:
http://www.allbusinessesindex.com/manufacture2/monterey/k208w.html
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Sat, 08 August 2009, 09:21:52
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280380482664&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Monterey K208 (FCC ID KD46AK208) - what's this, mechanical or rubber dome? Looks similar to Bollwerk's K104, thus I was contemplating bidding on it.
Here's a pic of the newer K208W (http://www.allproducts.com/manufacture2/monterey/k208w1.jpg) with Windows keys. Spill resistant, not too promising that.
Apparently only the K108W had "mechanical tactile-click key-switches":
http://www.allbusinessesindex.com/manufacture2/monterey/k108w.html
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Sat, 08 August 2009, 19:11:43
Quote from: lowpoly;106838
Wow.

There are collectors out there who have never heard about geekhack.


Mystery solved! The board indeed went to Korea:

http://cryo.egloos.com/2358016

The article states the he has purchased this board on eBay Germany.

PS: 15 hours left on the vintage cherry, still at 1 euro. Someone go grab it!
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Sun, 09 August 2009, 10:20:32
Quote from: sixty;108330
PS: 15 hours left on the vintage cherry, still at 1 euro. Someone go grab it!

I tried, but 30 Euros wasn't enough. Anybody here?
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Sun, 09 August 2009, 11:37:32
Not me.

Here's some keycaps that look to be two-shot stuff from something a little exotic, possibly for Cherry, less than 3 hours remaining:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230362478582&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Sun, 09 August 2009, 17:08:49
Looks like mechanical boards are on vacation, too. The next week will be pretty boring on the 'bay.

ML Tandbergs are now down to 9,95 apiece with free shipping.

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270438134432&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
A G81-8000.

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130323889674&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
19" board integrated in drawer, metal construction
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Sun, 09 August 2009, 21:49:31
Quote from: keyb_gr;108488

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130323889674&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
19" board integrated in drawer, metal construction


I'm gonna go for this. anyone else?
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Mon, 10 August 2009, 06:53:44
Quote from: sixty;108522
I'm gonna go for this. anyone else?

Good luck. Looks like currently they use Cherry MX. www.elma.de (http://www.elma.de)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Mon, 10 August 2009, 06:55:30
Quote from: sixty;108522
I'm gonna go for this. anyone else?

Go for it. Looks like they use Cherry MX, ATM.

Thanks for the constant input of ebay links, keyb_gr.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: huha on Wed, 12 August 2009, 07:12:58
Here (http://cgi.ebay.de/Microsoft-Tastatur-mit-div-Funktionstasten-1-IBM_W0QQitemZ220464582452QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMäuse_Tastaturen)'s an MS Natural keyboard with an IBM M2 thrown in for good measure. Apparently, the M2 works, which is kind of rare.
If I didn't already have one, I'd bid on this.

-huha
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Wed, 12 August 2009, 16:42:12
Keyboard with integrated touchpad (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110422391905&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)

NIB FSC KBPC PX (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330350898906&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) (yeah, they're rubber domes, and recent samples don't seem to hold up as well as they should, but I do like the feel of these FSCs)

Got my AT102DW today, review is up already.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Thu, 13 August 2009, 14:21:44
Keytronic  03602 (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270438558299&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)
FSC KBPC P2 (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230365605618&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT), might be a bit yellowed?
G80-2550 (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120456765783&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) (again?)
Looks like a G81-3000 in EU layout (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160355442229&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Sun, 16 August 2009, 08:00:37
Wow.. a G80-5000 at already 201 Euros.. 7 days to go. This is madness.

http://cgi.ebay.de/Cherry-Tastatur-G80-5000-HAADE-Ergo-5700-Numericblock_W0QQitemZ140339616781QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item20ace49c0d&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Sun, 16 August 2009, 13:49:28
Classic case of Sommerloch.

Looks like a G80-3000HAD or somesuch (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150365782029&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) (though I'm not entirely sure, might also be a G81), 7 days to go, 1 bid.
The two-shot keys again (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230367248169&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)

Expect less input from me here - I'm absolutely drowning in boards and have two more on the way. I may keep an eye on some exotica like SMK switches or a numpad, but that's about it.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Bollwerk on Mon, 17 August 2009, 05:41:54
Anyone bidding on the G80-2550?

It's a bit odd, that it popped up twice, but I think, I'll give it a try.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Rajagra on Mon, 17 August 2009, 06:03:06
He doesn't take Paypal, or I would have gone for it.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Mon, 17 August 2009, 06:24:37
Quote from: Bollwerk;110169
Anyone bidding on the G80-2550?

It's a bit odd, that it popped up twice, but I think, I'll give it a try.


Yes, I have my sniper set up for the g80-2550.
PS: I was in contact with the guy for a while. Asked to get the other board on the picture as well, however he said he had recycled it. :(
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Bollwerk on Mon, 17 August 2009, 06:37:32
Ok, I'm thinking over it.

In the worst case, we have to settle it at ebay.^^

Maybe, we aren't the only ones, interested in this anyway.

Oh, what a guy. Threw away one of them, uses the same photo for the same two boards? I don't get it.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: xyzzy on Mon, 17 August 2009, 10:31:15
Quote from: sixty;110036
Wow.. a G80-5000 at already 201 Euros.. 7 days to go. This is madness.

http://cgi.ebay.de/Cherry-Tastatur-G80-5000-HAADE-Ergo-5700-Numericblock_W0QQitemZ140339616781QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item20ace49c0d&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14


It's NIB, hence the high price. If it was in ANSI layout it would probably be twice as much already.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: xyzzy on Mon, 17 August 2009, 11:31:57
Quote from: sixty;110173
Yes, I have my sniper set up for the g80-2550.


Looks like there's been a bit of a sniping war on this. From 1€ to 30.50€ in the last 15 seconds.

Who got it in the end?
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Mon, 17 August 2009, 11:36:34
not me!
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: maxlugar on Mon, 17 August 2009, 12:45:00
Not a Cherry:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=280374208317
Not sure what this is, some early rubber dome? It's missing some keys anyway.[/QUOTE]

This keyboard was manufactured by Tandon Computers in Moorpark, CA USA.  The former manufacturing plant is now a leased warehouse with the dividing wall about 30 feet from my office desk.

At its peak in the late 1980's through the mid 1990's, Tandon employed several hundred employees and made PC clones for Tandy Corp. (Radio Shack) and was also one of the first brands of computers sold by Walmart's Sams Club warehouse chain.

Unfortunately, I don't know anything about the keyboard technology.  It could be rubber dome, but given its vintage, I suspect it may be buckling spring or microswitch.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Tue, 18 August 2009, 05:11:32
Quote from: huha;109092
Here (http://cgi.ebay.de/Microsoft-Tastatur-mit-div-Funktionstasten-1-IBM_W0QQitemZ220464582452QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMäuse_Tastaturen)'s an MS Natural keyboard with an IBM M2 thrown in for good measure. Apparently, the M2 works, which is kind of rare.
If I didn't already have one, I'd bid on this.

-huha


Got this one for the typical 1 Euro. Thanks for posting it.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Tue, 18 August 2009, 09:48:19
Usually most of the badly labelled boards end with no bids, so 1 Euro is not uncommon. I got a few model ms for a 1 euro, and the legendary cherry from my review.

Though they now have a list of "usefull german words" over at OTD it seems. No good!
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Bollwerk on Tue, 18 August 2009, 11:12:17
Actually, the german market is a bit strange. I think too many people know too less and are brainwashed by trends and style-products. They fall prey to brands like Logitech, Roccat and so on. So many jerks are praising the logitech Iluminated these days. THE BEST THING EVER... EVEN BETTER THAN G19!!!

What a shame... on the other hand. Usefull for those, who know more.^^

Modell Ms seem to go over the table for about 30€ recently.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: JBert on Tue, 18 August 2009, 16:01:33
How do you find out what models these are?

I'm looking for a Cherry with clears or browns, preferably 105 keys. But not too many sellers include this important snipet of information, so it looks a bit like a gamble.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Wed, 19 August 2009, 02:44:59
Quote from: JBert;110426
How do you find out what models these are?
If in doubt, ask the seller. That's how I did it with my G80-3000HAD.
Quote
I'm looking for a Cherry with clears or browns, preferably 105 keys. But not too many sellers include this important snipet of information, so it looks a bit like a gamble.
Browns? Fuhgettaboutit. You might find them in higher-end POS boards, but these are about as common as the proverbial hen's teeth. Clears still aren't too common, it was pure luck that I managed to find two boards with these (both ill-described and not specifying the type, ended up at 1€ each, so it wouldn't have been bad even if I'd only gotten something with blacks).
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Rajagra on Wed, 19 August 2009, 02:54:49
Quote from: keyb_gr;110521
Browns? Fuhgettaboutit. You might find them in higher-end POS boards, but these are about as common as the proverbial hen's teeth.

There's always the MX11800 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390080629998).
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 19 August 2009, 07:37:21
Quote from: JBert;110426
How do you find out what models these are?
 
I'm looking for a Cherry with clears or browns, preferably 105 keys. But not too many sellers include this important snipet of information, so it looks a bit like a gamble.

DataCal.com has G80-3000s with browns.  You would have to ship it in form the US, though, and they are much more expensive then what you might find locally since these were custom 'boards for DataCal.  I paid $100 USD for mine, and I absolutely love it.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: huha on Wed, 19 August 2009, 08:46:21
Quote from: JBert;110426
How do you find out what models these are?

I'm looking for a Cherry with clears or browns, preferably 105 keys. But not too many sellers include this important snipet of information, so it looks a bit like a gamble.

The clears are G80-3000LQCxx-y and pretty easy to find, although not on ebay. Depending on where you live, we could point you to some online shops where you can order them.
Browns can be found in Compaq's MX11800; they're not terribly rare. One especially nice model can be found here (http://cgi.ebay.de/Compaq-19-Tastatur-Schublade-LO-146_W0QQitemZ350240706844QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDE_Computer_Peripherie_Netzwerk). It's an MX11800 ([strike]in black![/strike] in white, photo is badly underexposed) with keyboard drawer. Pretty neat actually; if I didn't already have one, I'd buy this right away. The price is a bit high for those looking for a 1 Euro special, though.

-huha


edit: As far as tactile switches are concerned, there's always the odd Dell AT102DW floating around on ebay. Here (http://cgi.ebay.de/DELL-PC-Tastatur-PS2-AT102DW-Technisch-OK_W0QQitemZ120459616419QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMäuse_Tastaturen) is one, for example, although I don't quite believe the "slightly dusty" part of the article description after looking at the picture.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 19 August 2009, 08:54:35
Quote from: huha;110558
Browns can be found in Compaq's MX11800; they're not terribly rare. One especially nice model can be found here (http://cgi.ebay.de/Compaq-19-Tastatur-Schublade-LO-146_W0QQitemZ350240706844QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDE_Computer_Peripherie_Netzwerk). It's an MX11800 (in black!) with keyboard drawer.

Wow, that one is nice.  I have never seen a black one before.  In that pic, it almost looks Topre-gray.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Rajagra on Wed, 19 August 2009, 09:06:26
That photo is just underexposed. The keyboard and tray are white.

Those Compaq trays have a great mechanism for taking up slack in the cable, if you assemble it properly. And if it's complete.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Wed, 19 August 2009, 10:46:08
Quote from: huha;110558
edit: As far as tactile switches are concerned, there's always the odd Dell AT102DW floating around on ebay. Here (http://cgi.ebay.de/DELL-PC-Tastatur-PS2-AT102DW-Technisch-OK_W0QQitemZ120459616419QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMäuse_Tastaturen) is one, for example, although I don't quite believe the "slightly dusty" part of the article description after looking at the picture.

Looks like the keys are from two different batches, and one of them wasn't too good in terms of plastic mix. Given how unfriendly Alps keycaps are in terms of removal, I'd guess it came like that straight from the factory, although originally with all keys being the same color. I think I noticed a bit of variation on mine as well, but nowhere near as extreme.

I'd prefer clears to black Alps by a long shot though.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: JBert on Wed, 19 August 2009, 14:01:46
Quote from: Rajagra;110522
There's always the MX11800 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390080629998).
Argh!
Someone just bought it right from under my nose as it must have been a steal. Of course, I still had to ask whether they could ship it outside the UK...

As for the other MX11800: sounds interesting, but the seller seemingly only ships within Germany and I'm from Belgium.


EDIT: Also, I want to mod it - the main reason I don't go out and buy a brand new Filco. New Cherry keyboards with clears also seem quite pricey, so I don't want to void their warranty too soon.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Fri, 21 August 2009, 11:07:52
FSC numpad (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270441792306&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) - probably most interesting for folks with a KBPC E.
Tough industrial board (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330352789540&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)
Cash register board (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320413151448&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)
And here's one of them infamous "Mechanical Touch" boards (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300340165792&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT), says new

Who snatched up these 6 boards (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180398864766&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)?

EDIT: fixed
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: JBert on Fri, 21 August 2009, 13:02:44
The "industrial board" and "cash register board" both link to the same item. That, and the linked item seems to be a chiclet or maybe even a membrane keyboard *shudder* !
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Fri, 21 August 2009, 13:35:56
Quote from: keyb_gr;111085

Who snatched up these 6 boards (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180398864766&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)?


I got em! (http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt296/A18E/emotes/21.gif)(http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt296/A18E/emotes/58.gif)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Fri, 21 August 2009, 15:25:16
Quote from: sixty;111115
I got em!
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Let us know what you got there once they arrive, OK? They did look promising.
Quote from: ripster;111122
I think it's time for a Ebay Support Group, DE chapter.

Not that bad an idea actually. Or for Europe at least, or something like that. (I was considering a whole German language subforum at one time - why not if the Koreans have English language ones - but figured that traffic wouldn't be sufficient to warrant one. That would be like what, half a dozen active users or so? Then again, that's not too bad a figure.)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Fri, 21 August 2009, 16:15:43
Quote from: keyb_gr;111151
Let us know what you got there once they arrive, OK? They did look promising.


Of course! I think at least 3 of them are G80-1000s, probably with double shot keys.

Quote from: keyb_gr;111151
Not that bad an idea actually. Or for Europe at least, or something like that. (I was considering a whole German language subforum at one time - why not if the Koreans have English language ones - but figured that traffic wouldn't be sufficient to warrant one. That would be like what, half a dozen active users or so? Then again, that's not too bad a figure.)


I had that idea once too.. it would be nice to have some language specific sub forums. We could have already arranged some mass orders and maybe save some shipping costs that way. Oh well.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Fri, 21 August 2009, 16:44:05
Quote from: ripster;111160
I just meant that 6 Ebay boards as a time might mean it's time for the 12 step program. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve-step_program#Twelve_Steps)
Ah, I see. Good point... ;)

Yours truly definitely has too many. I hope I can find the space for all of the recent arrivals. Yet I'd still make some room for something with those light blue SMK switches...

You know what? MX blacks in a nice vintage Cherry board aren't that bad at all. I think I'd still prefer the G80-1000HAD over the KBPC PX (nice touch but awfully light lettering) and TDV 5010 / G84-9021 (wacko keycaps). Something with blues or clears is yet better though... blues are lighter than even the FSC overall. Blacks do get kinda tiring after a while but this buttery feel is lovely.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Sun, 23 August 2009, 12:11:52
Seems like I snatched up a G84-4700 numpad (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270443500541&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT) today. Threw in a bid of 2,50 for the heck of it, being sure that it would go higher, but got it for - 2,50. Not bad for a nice programmable numpad. Doesn't say anything about function, but things like that generally work. From the blurry label pic these are made in the Czech factory.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Sun, 23 August 2009, 14:01:53
Quote from: keyb_gr;111452
Seems like I snatched up a G84-4700 numpad (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270443500541&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT) today. Threw in a bid of 2,50 for the heck of it, being sure that it would go higher, but got it for - 2,50. Not bad for a nice programmable numpad. Doesn't say anything about function, but things like that generally work. From the blurry label pic these are made in the Czech factory.


Nice catch! Didn't see that one.

Btw: The G80-5000 ended today.. 584,90 EUR.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Rajagra on Sun, 23 August 2009, 14:16:37
Quote from: keyb_gr;111452
Seems like I snatched up a G84-4700 numpad (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270443500541&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT) today. Threw in a bid of 2,50 for the heck of it, being sure that it would go higher, but got it for - 2,50. Not bad for a nice programmable numpad. Doesn't say anything about function, but things like that generally work. From the blurry label pic these are made in the Czech factory.


Any idea if it's PS/2 or USB? I bought this one (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320412560481) earlier, then realised it was PS/2. Still a nice item, but has limitations when you think about it.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Sun, 23 August 2009, 14:25:45
Quote from: Rajagra;111467
Any idea if it's PS/2 or USB?

It's a USB (combo) model. My dad currently uses a cheap one on the notebook so he can bang away without having to fear for the integrated one, and this might be a good replacement.
Quote
I bought this one (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320412560481) earlier, then realised it was PS/2. Still a nice item, but has limitations when you think about it.

How does one use a PS/2 numpad anyway? I think the G80-3700 has a jack for sort of a loop-through connection.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Sun, 23 August 2009, 14:29:19
One difference from the PS2 and USB model is that the PS2 model is hardware based.. it sends the keystrokes using actual keystrokes if you set a macro. The USB version only sends keys when the Cherry Tools are installed.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Rajagra on Sun, 23 August 2009, 14:34:27
Ah - I should be OK (http://www.cherry.de/english/products/traveller_Keypad_G84-4700.htm). Looks like the numpad has the passthrough connector, for some reason I assumed the main keyboard had to have it.

Quote from: sixty;111470
One difference from the PS2 and USB model is that the PS2 model is hardware based.. it sends the keystrokes using actual keystrokes if you set a macro. The USB version only sends keys when the Cherry Tools are installed.

Bonus! I thought you needed the G80-3700 to get hardware macros.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Sun, 23 August 2009, 14:41:18
Quote from: sixty;111466
Btw: The G80-5000 ended today.. 584,90 EUR.

Crazy. I just got the 5700 numpad in used condition for about EUR 10,- plus shipping.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Sun, 23 August 2009, 14:51:47
Anyone happen to know what a G80-5000 cost when new?
EDIT: OK, a bit of searching helped answer that one - $170 plus shipping (http://www.google.com/url?url=http://groups.google.de/g/fbe7ff08/t/e42228d064858540/d/5ba35661bd3fbb8a%3Fq%3Dcherry%2Bergoplus%235ba35661bd3fbb8a&ei=Mp2RSsTGCqW4QIfYjE8&sa=t&ct=res&cd=3&source=groups&usg=AFQjCNHEP8kE76r816Flu_1smDRYJBBo2A). I would have guesstimated maybe 200..250 DM over here.

Oh, and I finally ordered a Belkin PS/2 to USB adapter today. (And a new USB hub, as mine with integrated cardreader gets pretty warm.) That should make keyboard promiscuity somewhat more easy...
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Sun, 23 August 2009, 16:36:50
Two-shot key set again (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230367248169&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT), minutes to go
Looks like a Model M, might be a rubber dome version though (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250483075187&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) - ends tomorrow
AT102DW (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120459616419&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) (brought up by huha I believe)

You can also buy a whole bunch of used FSC boards for PS/2 (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220358791251&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) for cheap (seemingly some older model if the pic is accurate - KBPC P or so?), though it seems these guys (used IT resellers) don't do a whole lot of testing
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Sun, 23 August 2009, 17:35:15
Quote from: keyb_gr;111483

Looks like a Model M, might be a rubber dome version though (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250483075187&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) - ends tomorrow


Quote from: that guy

Ist eine universal billig Ware ,aber was soll ich sagen für mein Laptop war das immer O.K. . Jetzt habe ich eine neue geschenkt bekommen und darum wech damit !


lol.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: watduzhkstand4 on Sun, 23 August 2009, 18:32:26
wow those keyboards there are dirt cheap there and no one is buying it?
[no pun intended btw]
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Sun, 23 August 2009, 21:32:38
Quote from: watduzhkstand4;111491
wow those keyboards there are dirt cheap there and no one is buying it?
[no pun intended btw]


Sadly I am buying them, most of the time. I am indeed running out of physical space.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: xyzzy on Mon, 24 August 2009, 03:02:57
Quote from: sixty;111466
Btw: The G80-5000 ended today.. 584,90 EUR.

Crazy... I expected it to reach a high price because it was NIB... But rather something in the range of €300, not the price of a M15 :jaw:
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Mon, 24 August 2009, 06:06:26
Terms and conditions of the day:
Passive USB adapter (http://cgi.ebay.de/CHERRY-PS2-AUF-USB-ADAPTER-FUR-TASTATUR-ODER-MAUS_W0QQitemZ250486714821QQcmdZViewItem)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Mon, 24 August 2009, 11:48:14
Quote from: keyb_gr;111483
Looks like a Model M, might be a rubber dome version though (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250483075187&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) - ends tomorrow
Again, 1 Euro. Had bid on it before but thanks for the link, reminded me to watch the auction. :-)

Best sales text for a Model M ever.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Wed, 26 August 2009, 15:39:06
My G84-4700 numpad showed up today, super quick shipping there. It''s a PUCDE made U19, i.e. 2008. No idea why anyone would sell it (it's not like you'd get rich) but anyway. Didn't know they still make these with painted lettering.
But yes, the Cherry website states the USB programmability is software based. Other USB keyboards sem to miss the occasional Num Lock indication change when it's connected.

My, lots of new USB stuff today. New hub, new stick (things don't seem to look too good for Sandisk, so I figured quality wasn't likely to improve), and most importantly a Belkin PS/2 adapter so I can connect more keyboards than any normal human being could type on at any given time.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Wed, 26 August 2009, 15:51:05
My MS Ergo/M2 combo came today. The M2 is working. :eek:

The MS is a huge pile of plastic. Comes with a usb/ps2 cable with two plugs.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Wed, 26 August 2009, 15:52:25
So is it a buckling spring or rubber dome M2?
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Wed, 26 August 2009, 15:55:34
Buckling spring. But I think you mean the other auction with the Model M. I don't have that yet.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Wed, 26 August 2009, 16:03:34
Quote from: lowpoly;112141
Buckling spring.

Good catch then. I wanted to have one of these for a long time... but eventually I didn't need to and had accumulated a number of other nice boards.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Wed, 26 August 2009, 16:15:15
Quote from: webwit;112142
Heh, I liked how the M2 appeared to be thrown in as a valueless extra. Talking about the M2, I think I'm gonna get rid of the side and front spoilers on one of mine. I don't get those. They have no function and hide this is the thinnest mechanical keyboard around!
There are two kinds of M2 cases. One is rather compact and one has those spoilers. iMav posted photos once:

Model M2 comparisons (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=4853)

I only have the smaller ones. I wish the nose was flat and not rounded. The case would be even smaller. But IIRC there are latches inside, not easy to mod. Black case and keys, flat front and Unicomp had an up-to-date product.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Wed, 26 August 2009, 16:17:13
Quote from: keyb_gr;112144
Good catch then. I wanted to have one of these for a long time... but eventually I didn't need to and had accumulated a number of other nice boards.

I just saw in iMav's post that there were rubber dome versions of the M2 as well. I didn't remember that.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Rajagra on Wed, 26 August 2009, 16:23:04
Quote from: keyb_gr;112134
My G84-4700 numpad showed up today, super quick shipping there. It''s a PUCDE made U19, i.e. 2008. ...

But yes, the Cherry website states the USB programmability is software based.


Mine arrived too, a G84-4700PRBUS /04. It's PS/2, but for the life of me, I can't find a way to program it  - hardware wise - in Cherry Tools. It seems to be a software problem, there just isn't a numpad layout that allows H/W programming.

So far it behaves exactly the same as my USB 4700. :noidea:
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Thu, 27 August 2009, 02:42:03
Maybe try an older version of the software?

BTW, yesterday I rediscovered that my trusty old P2B-D does have keyboard powerup functionality. I'd entirely forgotten about that. You have to set a jumper to enable standby supply, which I did (after having to remove and unplug the power supply, otherwise you can't get there). Even USB keyboard support at BIOS stage works, in spite of no option for that being present (unless I overlooked it).
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Thu, 27 August 2009, 04:49:05
I got the lot of 6 boards today. All of the boards are extremely dirty. Will be fun (yeah right..) cleaning these up. Anyway, there has been some really weird stuff in the box. Here is what I got:

1x some cheap keytonic rubber dome -> trashed it

1x some ancient Mitsumi board, combination of membrane hammer and spring?
pics: [1] (http://t.oomuch.info/src/1251364686997.jpg) [2] (http://t.oomuch.info/src/1251364702564.jpg) [3] (http://t.oomuch.info/src/1251364716641.jpg)
This piece of crap probably feels horrible to type on. It is too filthy for me to even try. This board is so yellowed, it seriously has the colour of a banana. Trashing this.

1x Conrad Electronic Board - some type of semi clicky membrane with Cherry keycap interface. This board sports the most ghetto, yet most impressive fix of a missing keycap I have ever seen. This is an actually rebuilt keycap (and stem!) cut out of some type of plastic, combined with a lid of some small bottle. Kudos for this. Trashing this. Pics: [1] (http://t.oomuch.info/src/1251364896577.jpg)

1x Cherry G80-1000 Cherry MX Black, double shot keycaps
Pics: [1] (http://t.oomuch.info/src/1251365325727.jpg) [2] (http://t.oomuch.info/src/1251366094384.jpg)
FCC ID has been purposely(?) scratched. The label is very scratched anyway, who knows. Interesting serial number.. first in a run of 13k? Really odd.

1x Cherry G80-1212 (Huh? OEM run? Check the weird serial number too.. can't see anything special about this board though).

Cherry MX Black, double shot keycaps
Pics: [1] (http://t.oomuch.info/src/1251365136493.jpg) [2] (http://t.oomuch.info/src/1251365252136.jpg)

1x Cherry G80-3019 HFD/04
Pics: [1] (http://t.oomuch.info/src/1251365966083.jpg) [2] (http://t.oomuch.info/src/1251366336456.jpg)

Another weird serial. Is this OEM/special order too? Label has no FCC ID even though it should normally have one. Even the older G80-1000 had them (even though scratched out).

Cherry MX Blue, double shot keycaps

Closing Notes
Did you pay attention to the pictures? For some reason all of the "1" keys on all keyboards have been purposely jammed/stuck in one way or another. The G80-1000 and the G80-3019 had this done really well using a piece of rubber stuck to the keycap. This fell off on the G80-3019 and the key was therefore not stuck anymore. But anyway.. what could be the purpose of this? Whats the deal with all the stuck 1 keys, missing FCC ids and weird serial or product numbers? Anyone got any clues? Testing equipment? TÜV test equipment? Who knows. I hope one of you does, since I am clueless.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Thu, 27 August 2009, 05:08:17
Quote from: sixty;112243
1x Conrad Electronic Board - some type of semi clicky membrane with Cherry keycap interface. This board sports the most ghetto, yet most impressive fix of a missing keycap I have ever seen. This is an actually rebuilt keycap (and stem!) cut out of some type of plastic, combined with a lid of some small bottle. Kudos for this. Trashing this. Pics: [1] (http://t.oomuch.info/src/1251364896577.jpg)´

Got a label pic for this?
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1x Cherry G80-1212 (Huh? OEM run? Check the weird serial number too.. can't see anything special about this board though).

This will need some rollover testing (http://random.xem.us/rollover.html).
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1x Cherry G80-3019 HFD/04
Pics: [1] (http://t.oomuch.info/src/1251365966083.jpg) [2] (http://t.oomuch.info/src/1251366336456.jpg)

Another weird serial. Is this OEM/special order too?

Yep. The customization might stop at the label though.

No clue about the common odditities.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Thu, 27 August 2009, 05:33:03
Quote from: keyb_gr;112245

This will need some rollover testing (http://random.xem.us/rollover.html).


Good guess. Seems we got full nkey rollover here:

(http://t.oomuch.info/src/1251369110195.png)
(http://t.oomuch.info/src/1251369134389.png)

(I ran out of fingers)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: o2dazone on Thu, 27 August 2009, 08:38:40
Quote from: sixty;112250


(I ran out of fingers)


I want to know what you used to hit the 11th key


...actually scratch that, I don't
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Thu, 27 August 2009, 09:56:28
Try more keys in one row, that is usually the weak point of the old Cherry matrix. It seems to manage at least 5KRO though, which is better than what a regular revision 17 board (or 1196 OEM board) of similar vintage does (3KRO), so it may very well do NKRO. Seems like it isn't the only OEM version like that, the same reportedly applies to 1273 and 1286 as well.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Thu, 27 August 2009, 13:26:43
Quote from: ripster;112293
Please post if any Cherry keyboards pop up  that are black (the case, not the switch) and potentially have double shot keys.

That would be once in a blue moon. I think you have a far better chance of finding something (typically G81-1900/7000) on your side of the pond. "Serious" keyboards have been almost exclusively light-colored here.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Fri, 28 August 2009, 02:13:26
Quote from: keyb_gr;112353
That would be once in a blue moon. I think you have a far better chance of finding something (typically G81-1900/7000) on your side of the pond. "Serious" keyboards have been almost exclusively light-colored here.

I agree, most Cherry boards don't come in black here. Even getting a current generation black G80 with English layout was hard.

In regards to the boards I got yesterday, some production dates:

G80-1212: 20th April 1989
G80-1000: 1x August 1990 (can't read the 2nd digit, rubbed off)
G80-3019: Unknown, this one has a fancy sticker with lots of hand written numbers on it inside. Maybe this has to do with the OEM customization.

PS: Should I move any further discussion regarding these boards (i.e more roll over tests, etc) to a more fitting topic? Maybe your "dating cherry keyboards" entry keyb_gr?

PPS: Maybe we can rename this topic to eBay Germany or something? Its not really only about Cherry anymore.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Fri, 28 August 2009, 02:45:16
Quote from: sixty;112476
PS: Should I move any further discussion regarding these boards (i.e more roll over tests, etc) to a more fitting topic? Maybe your "dating cherry keyboards" entry keyb_gr?

Sounds like a good idea.
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PPS: Maybe we can rename this topic to eBay Germany or something? Its not really only about Cherry anymore.

I tried, but it seems editing the title of the first post is not enough.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Tue, 01 September 2009, 05:24:40
Quote from: keyb_gr;111483
Looks like a Model M, might be a rubber dome version though (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250483075187&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) - ends tomorrow

Turned out to be a regular gray label BS with a cable in very good condition. Just needs cleaning.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Tue, 01 September 2009, 05:40:53
Quote from: lowpoly;113598
Turned out to be a regular gray label BS with a cable in very good condition. Just needs cleaning.


Congrats. Very nice score :)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: huha on Wed, 02 September 2009, 18:24:43
Some fresh keyboards:

PC5150 with corresponding keyboard (http://cgi.ebay.de/IBM-PC-5150-der-Klassiker-funktionsfaehig-mit-Tastatur_W0QQitemZ250487584786) (looks like a Model F).

AEK II (http://cgi.ebay.de/apple-extended-Keyboard-II-ADB-Eintasten-Maus-eckig_W0QQitemZ320418338387)

One cheapish G84-4100 in Polish (http://cgi.ebay.de/CHERRY-G84-4100-PL-Tastatur-polnisch-Keyboard-POLISH_W0QQitemZ300342280115)

A Cherry board with MX switches (http://cgi.ebay.de/Tastatur-Keyboard-cherry-DIN-Stecker_W0QQitemZ170377182023)

-huha
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Thu, 03 September 2009, 07:44:37
Some new G80 or G81 in original packaging, ending soon (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200378470000&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)

Seems like G80-1501s are quite sought-after, as  this (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280388912540&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) and this one (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260468510615&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) show. Apparently they're still of value to the medical folks, otherwise they'd be a good candidate for a NKRO board on the cheap.

G80-11900 (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260468008733&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: molto on Thu, 03 September 2009, 08:12:02
G84-4700 (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110430985187)
G84-4100 (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220472349798)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: huha on Sat, 05 September 2009, 08:44:39
Still no bids on this one (http://cgi.ebay.de/Tastatur-Keyboard-cherry-DIN-Stecker_W0QQitemZ170377182023) yet? Keys seem to be 2-shot judging from the high contrast on the picture.

-huha
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Sat, 05 September 2009, 09:06:52
Perhaps it's the MFII layout and DIN plug deterring folks. Seems to be a ca. 1996 or later sample in any case, judging by the model name.

I'm done buying keyboards for sure.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lal on Sat, 05 September 2009, 09:13:17
And it probably has linear black switches, no?
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Sat, 05 September 2009, 11:04:35
Quote from: lal;115019
And it probably has linear black switches, no?

Hard to tell. Blacks should be fairly common, of course, but my random picks of unspecified G80s had clears (twice actually, crazy luck). So it could also have blues or clears. It's a gamble, probably more for those content with whatever they get. My G80-3000HAD ended up with the case and keycaps from my very first G80 with blues, now serving as an experimental board (QWERTÜ etc.) while the board with blues and two-shot keycaps sits on my main comp.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Sat, 05 September 2009, 12:07:52
Quote from: huha;115016
Still no bids on this one (http://cgi.ebay.de/Tastatur-Keyboard-cherry-DIN-Stecker_W0QQitemZ170377182023) yet? Keys seem to be 2-shot judging from the high contrast on the picture.

-huha


Looks like double shot keys for sure. Sadly I am as well done buying G80s, I can literally pile them to the ceiling, or take a bath in double shot keycaps (take that ripster!)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: huha on Sun, 06 September 2009, 06:13:38
Here's an IBM XT keyboard (http://cgi.ebay.de/Orginal-IBM-XT-5160-mit-Tastatur-Netzteil-defekt_W0QQitemZ250490182087), looks like a Model F?

A Cherry G80-11900 (http://cgi.ebay.de/Cherry-Tastatur-G80-11900LTMDE-0-inkl-Touchpad-TOP_W0QQitemZ260468008733) with thouchpad.

-huha
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Tue, 08 September 2009, 10:22:31
A really good deal on this Apple Extended keyboard, it seems to be new in box, or at least boxed in great condition:

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180402101211&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Someone please buy it before I do so. I don't have the space!!
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Tue, 08 September 2009, 10:56:56
^^^ Apple Adjustable

Edit: looks like the manual and floppy are missing.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lal on Tue, 08 September 2009, 11:23:19
If it had an ADB-Converter included I'd be all over it.  AFAIK those converters are pretty expensive?  Griffin iMate or what they're called...
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Thu, 10 September 2009, 09:12:02
Lot of 4 AEK2: http://cgi.ebay.de/4-x-Apple-Tastaturen-Extended-Keyboard-II_W0QQitemZ230375700378QQcategoryZ26750QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3907.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DSIC%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BIEW%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D16%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D54

Great buy to get a bunch of alps sliders.

G80-3000 (old style) with Cherry MX Blues: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280392967084&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Carl Zeiss Jena Keyboard: http://cgi.ebay.de/PC-Tastatur-neuwertig-Carl-Zeiss-Jena_W0QQitemZ110430390420QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item19b62a0894&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

WTF is this? OEM Model M? Some clone? High shipping :(

Mitsumi: http://cgi.ebay.de/Tastatur-Keyboard-PC-Mitsumi-5pol-DIN-Stecker_W0QQitemZ160361065262QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item255643ab2e&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Uses the hybrid spring loaded rubberdomes I think - According to Amiga users a decent switch type.

As a shameless plug: I have put up my Ghetto Filco in the marketplace here, anyone in Germany or Europe give it a visit, need to get rid of this! http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?p=116570#post116570
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lal on Thu, 10 September 2009, 10:55:56
Quote from: sixty;116573

Mitsumi: http://cgi.ebay.de/Tastatur-Keyboard-PC-Mitsumi-5pol-DIN-Stecker_W0QQitemZ160361065262QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item255643ab2e&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Uses the hybrid spring loaded rubberdomes I think - According to Amiga users a decent switch type.


Where did get that info from?  Unless that is some kind of special edition, that is a standard rubber dome board.  Very common.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Thu, 10 September 2009, 11:00:00
Quote from: lal;116621
Where did get that info from?  Unless that is some kind of special edition, that is a standard rubber dome board.  Very common.


http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=383886&postcount=18

It seems as if the later models used rubber springs instead of actual springs, but yeah. It seems to be not a normal rubber dome but rather a fancy rubber dome with one dome that collapses and one that puts the keycap back up? Maybe similar to the Fujitsu LiberTouch?
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Thu, 10 September 2009, 14:43:19
Quote from: sixty;116573
Carl Zeiss Jena Keyboard: http://cgi.ebay.de/PC-Tastatur-neuwertig-Carl-Zeiss-Jena_W0QQitemZ110430390420QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item19b62a0894&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

WTF is this? OEM Model M? Some clone? High shipping :(

Doesn't look like a real M, more likely a clone. Has to be some kind of membrane-based board due to the curvature.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Mon, 21 September 2009, 06:49:02
Quote from: sixty;111466
Btw: The G80-5000 ended today.. 584,90 EUR.

This one (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130331278768&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) in used condition just went for Euro 406,-.

The time for cheap G80-5000s seems to be over. At least if the seller is willing to ship international.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Sun, 27 September 2009, 09:37:48
Griffin iMate: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemnext&item=200387896079.html
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Sat, 03 October 2009, 10:32:13
Apple Extended II in good condition and what looks like the orginial box. (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200388407954&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)

Monterey International Corp. Model No. K104 (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250505261598&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)

Does anybody know what kind of switches the second one has?
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Z Redux on Sat, 03 October 2009, 21:35:06
Quote from: lowpoly;122556
Monterey International Corp. Model No. K104 (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250505261598&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)

Does anybody know what kind of switches the second one has?

I think this keyboard uses the same SMK-Monterey switches that are found in certain Chicony KB-5181s - tactile click with blue axis. It's a bit hard to tell, though, as Monterey seems to have varied components under the same model number... much like Chicony.

A Google image search for 'Monterey K104 keyboard' yields two different keyboards with the same model number (one appears to use a blue axis Alps-style switch), both of which look different than the keyboard in the auction.

To find out what switch this particular keyboard uses you could ask the seller to pull a key cap and photograph the switch. Unless, that is, you like to gamble.

In any case, Sandy (http://sandy55.fc2web.com/) has photos and discussion of the SMK-Monterey switch here (http://sandy55.fc2web.com/keyboard/chicony_kb-5181.html). (Japanese)
mousefan (http://www7.ocn.ne.jp/%7Ehisao/mousefan.htm) has a few additional photos here (http://www7.ocn.ne.jp/%7Ehisao/image/monterey.htm). (Japanese)
Geekhack member maxlugar talks about his Chicony KB-5181 equipped with the blue SMK-Monterey switch in this post (http://geekhack.org/showpost.php?p=103917&postcount=34). (English)

 -Z
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Sun, 04 October 2009, 03:45:53
Thanks. :-)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Wed, 07 October 2009, 09:12:50
HHKB Lite 2 (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemnext&item=250509702944.html)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Fri, 09 October 2009, 00:37:40
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250509638310&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

MX 11900 (G80- 11900 LTMEU-0). Brand new and QWERTY layout. This is a great deal. I don't know what type of switches it uses yet.

I already ordered one and can repost here first when it arrives.

PS: They ship within Europe and also worldwide on request.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: JBert on Fri, 09 October 2009, 02:01:25
Cherry only made those models with black switches.

If you want some other switch, you can only hope that someone asked Cherry to make an OEM version.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: xyzzy on Fri, 09 October 2009, 03:35:48
Quote from: sixty;124032
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250509638310&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

MX 11900 (G80- 11900 LTMEU-0). Brand new and QWERTY layout. This is a great deal. I don't know what type of switches it uses yet.


Hmmm, the auction photo is of a G84-5500, which uses ML switches. Still a good deal, but I wonder whether they got the title or the photo wrong.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Mon, 12 October 2009, 10:31:29
I just got the board and can confirm that its indeed the described keyboard with full US QWERTY layout. The picture is wrong. Really good deal, go grab one!
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: microsoft windows on Mon, 12 October 2009, 19:56:58
That looks like an interesting keyboard.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Wed, 28 October 2009, 14:34:26
Three (probably clicky) IBM typewriters:

http://cgi.ebay.de/3-original-IBM-Schreibmaschinen-67xx-und-2-Farbbaender_W0QQitemZ260496441589QQcmdZViewItemQQptZKlassische_Computer?hash=item3ca6cc40f5

Pick-up only (in Essen).

And a PS/1 with keyboard and mouse:

http://cgi.ebay.de/Original-IBM-PS-1-Computer-Monitor-Maus-Tastatur_W0QQitemZ160372060476QQcmdZViewItemQQptZKlassische_Computer?hash=item2556eb713c

Edit: post #2000!
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Thu, 29 October 2009, 15:08:38
G80-3000, ANSI layout, blacks, PS/2 (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150383299413&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) (ends tomorrow)
Real old Olivetti board (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280416070276&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)
Supposedly rugged lefty keyboard, PS/2 (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170400183101&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) (manufacturer (http://www.gorlo-todt.de/), specialises in keyboards for people with disabilities)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 29 October 2009, 15:10:58
That Olivetti 'board is stylin'.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Hakhu on Fri, 30 October 2009, 04:33:48
Quote from: keyb_gr;129211
G80-3000, ANSI layout, blacks, PS/2 (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150383299413&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) (ends tomorrow)
Shush! :)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: microsoft windows on Mon, 02 November 2009, 18:32:59
Does ANSI main there are Windows keys?
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Tue, 03 November 2009, 07:46:41
Quote from: microsoft windows;129997
Does ANSI main there are Windows keys?

Nope, just that it's a US-style layout, which is kinda rare over here where ISO layouts (102/105-key with inverted-L Enter) are the norm.
Title: 2x Cherry G80-5000 + 5700
Post by: Hakhu on Tue, 03 November 2009, 08:19:56
There are currently two Cherry G80-5000s to be had. Both offers include a 5700 numpad.

Link 1 (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130341406623&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)

Link 2 (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140356667742&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Tue, 03 November 2009, 08:39:00
Both are relists. First one went for Euro 584,- before, second one for Euro 406,-.

Unlike before, the seller in Link 1 only sells to Europe now.

Quote
Q: hallo. i need buy it now. tell me buy it now price please. thank you.
A: Hello, the last auction with this keyboards was ended with 580€ Is this ok for you?

LOL
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Hakhu on Tue, 03 November 2009, 08:51:53
Relists by the people who bought them before or by the same sellers (that would mean they tried to up the price and ended up buying their own s**t)?
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Tue, 03 November 2009, 09:25:34
Same sellers.

Not sure if it was shill bidding. The Link 1 guy reduced the sales area to Europe, I suspect he had a non-paying overseas bidder or other problems with the transaction.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: xyzzy on Tue, 03 November 2009, 10:26:57
Quote from: lowpoly;130091


Quote
Q: hallo. i need buy it now. tell me buy it now price please. thank you.
A: Hello, the last auction with this keyboards was ended with 580€ Is this ok for you?


LOL


The auction has ended early, maybe the buyer agreed on the 580€ price after all... :madgrin:
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: J888www on Tue, 03 November 2009, 10:37:39
Curious, I wonder if the buyer just happen to be from Plá de Palau, Barcelona. One of my silly hunches.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: xyzzy on Tue, 03 November 2009, 10:52:30
Quote from: J888www;130129
Curious, I wonder if the buyer just happen to be from Plá de Palau, Barcelona. One of my silly hunches.

Ha! No I already have a G80-5000 + numpad and I paid around €60 for both IIRC.

Plus the coordinates are approximate :wink:
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: J888www on Tue, 03 November 2009, 10:55:16
Tocado mi amigo
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mnemonix on Tue, 03 November 2009, 11:10:46
Dude, what's so special about these boards? I mean, they are broken in the middle, and they have German layouts. :wink:

Seriously, why would I want one of those?
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 03 November 2009, 11:13:01
Quote from: Mnemonix;130141
Dude, what's so special about these boards? I mean, they are broken in the middle, and they have German layouts. :wink:
 
Seriously, why would I want one of those?

You're right.  I would take one off someone's hands just so they wouldn't have to deal with this trash laying around their house.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mnemonix on Tue, 03 November 2009, 11:20:17
Let's put it this way: is the price so high because they are extremely good keyboards, or simply because they are rare?
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 03 November 2009, 11:22:02
Quote from: Mnemonix;130146
Let's put it this way: is the price so high because they are extremely good keyboards, or simply because they are rare?

They're rare, mainly. That, and they are split-ergo 'boards (and fairly adjustable at that) which are hard to find with mechanical switches (see: Model M15).
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Tue, 03 November 2009, 13:49:42
Quote from: xyzzy;130124
The auction has ended early, maybe the buyer agreed on the 580€ price after all... :madgrin:


Ah, he deleted all bids. Very dangerous for the seller because the highest bidder is the official winner of the auction. He might get everything for Euro 3.50 if he knows his rights.

This is one of the few reasons why it makes sense to be the high bidder when the price is still low.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: microsoft windows on Tue, 03 November 2009, 17:04:32
People sure like those ergonomic keyboards. I've never used them. Is it like about as much step up from the Model M as using a Model M is compared to using a white Apple keyboard?
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 04 November 2009, 07:32:30
Personally, I like the hand spacing and the wrist positioning.  It also helps me type better and faster since you can't "cross-type."  All things being equal, I like the split layout better, but there is a dearth of mechanical ergo 'boards which makes these things so expensive.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Thu, 05 November 2009, 08:59:28
New old stock G81-3000:

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160373720219&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Note that the seller listed this as G81-3000HAU which is NOT the case. I got one today and they are the lasered model, not the double shot one. However, still a pretty good deal. He will accept offers around the 12 Euro area.

Boards are really brand new in box and on request he will pack it in another box or proper packaging paper to not ruin the box.

These G81s are made in 1997 and still use the old style stabilizers and keycap sets. They are 100% compatible to G80s or some Filco models (minus bottom row, capslock). So if you are after some clean, bi-color laser keys this might be a source.

And yes: I posted the URL just after I had bought and received one of the three instead of instantly when finding it because [strike]i planned on massive profit reselling these if it really was the HAU model[/strike] to save you guys from not getting the actual HAU model.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Thu, 05 November 2009, 09:03:07
Same seller, great deal:

New old stock G84-4100 (ANSI Layout?): 25 Euro buy it now, accepts offers:
http://cgi.ebay.de/Cherry-Keyboard-SlimLine-G84-4100-UK-Version_W0QQitemZ160373718870QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item255704bf56#ht_895wt_1166

This is about 1/3 of the retail price or less and half of the usual eBay price. Great deal.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 05 November 2009, 09:05:21
That is a lot better than the Dells.  Unfortunately, the white on black doesn't look quite as good.  I think the white paint/plastic/whatever makes it look a little sloppy.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: microsoft windows on Thu, 05 November 2009, 13:55:08
I hate any Dell keyboard manufactured since about 2000. Why? Because they're utter CRAP! Their keys get stuck, the letters wear off them, they're just awful.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Thu, 05 November 2009, 14:04:18
The ended-early G80-5000 is back:

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140357692462
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: JBert on Thu, 05 November 2009, 15:04:10
Quote from: webwit;130575
I like it how he describes it as the best ergo keyboard ever made, and then proceeds to explain why he is selling it ("never used it").
He describes it as the best Cherry has ever built. We don't know yet what other keyboards he has. :smile:
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 05 November 2009, 15:12:11
That guy probably wrote up that eBay listing using an M15.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Mon, 09 November 2009, 10:33:41
Quote from: Hakhu;130084
There are currently two Cherry G80-5000s to be had. Both offers include a 5700 numpad.

Link 1 (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130341406623&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)

Link 2 (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140356667742&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)

Link 1 went for Euro 111,-. Much less than the initial 406,-.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mnemonix on Mon, 09 November 2009, 12:07:53
Quote from: lowpoly;131249
Link 1 went for Euro 111,-. Much less than the initial 406,-.


Still quite much, but 111 seems a lot more reasonable.
Here's the other one again: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140357692462 (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140357692462). He decided not to ship to Nigeria anymore, though. :)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Fri, 20 November 2009, 04:51:39
Another G80-5000:

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170407284574&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Ships to Germany.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Rajagra on Mon, 23 November 2009, 09:12:11
My pinkie used to hurt when I went for a P, but Colemak fixed it for me.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Mon, 23 November 2009, 11:27:30
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230400860671&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

What is this? An IBM labeled Cherry?

Article is not stolen, btw. (seller's words).
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Mon, 23 November 2009, 11:41:36
lollllll... that is great stuff.

"I have gotten this keyboard from school.. the school gave it to me.. the article is NOT stolen."

Awesome. Anyway, never seen a board like that before but I doubt its actually a Cherry.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Tue, 24 November 2009, 02:56:59
The only other boards I have seen with the indicator LEDs that high up are Gateways. Maybe this one came out of the same factory.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Wed, 02 December 2009, 12:12:44
D'oh... I forgot to bid on a board again.
This Qtronix 32-key numpad (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120497943531&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) promptly went without a bid.
As did, incidentally, this splendidly-described "keyboard" (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220512695952&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) (apparently a 1000 series Cherry, I'd say G81 but not sure).

Also run out without any bids: This Siemens, apparently KBPC EM or similar (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300369909235&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT).

This old XT(?) board (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150392143357&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) is still running though.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: microsoft windows on Wed, 02 December 2009, 19:41:17
If that was on ebay USA I'd get it for the arrow keys.

Ooh boy! This is my 1000th post!
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Fri, 04 December 2009, 02:19:53
Quote from: keyb_gr;138044
This old XT(?) board (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150392143357&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) is still running though.

Looks like an RJ45 plug.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Sun, 06 December 2009, 14:46:51
Funny things going on on the 'bay. People are fighting for a virtually NIB G81-3000SAD (http://cgi.ebay.de/PC-Tastatur-Cherry-Electrical-G81-3000-wie-neu_W0QQitemZ320455738281QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item4a9ca683a9) - yours truly snatched one up as on OEM for 1€ half a year ago.

Here's a US layout 1000 series Cherry (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180438244612&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) (less than a day to go)
Seems like we're almost drowning in Marquardt ergos:
Here's one... (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170416936379&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)
...and there's another (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190355499629&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)

And JFTR, this (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330384415192&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) is what a Qtronix Scorpius 104 looks like - these rubber domes with distinctive styling from about 1997 appear on the 'bay once in a while. A while back I had been wondering what model this was, and whether it was mechanical. (Too bad they are not, the design is quite nice.)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Rajagra on Sun, 06 December 2009, 20:01:47
Quote from: keyb_gr;139472
Seems like we're almost drowning in Marquardt ergos:
Here's one... (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170416936379&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)
...and there's another (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190355499629&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)


I have to say they look quite stylish, very different from the usual rectangle. If you painted the case they'd be even more of an objet d'art.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Sun, 06 December 2009, 20:16:30
Quote from: webwit;139474
Nice, I might bid on one of the Marquardts. Anyone from Germany willing to forward it to me if I win one? If you do please PM me.


pm'ed
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Hakhu on Mon, 07 December 2009, 03:57:09
Quote from: keyb_gr;139472
Here's a US layout 1000 series Cherry (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180438244612&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) (less than a day to go)


How can you be sure that it's a Cherry? Do you have specifics?
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: bsvP585hUO2Y6 on Mon, 07 December 2009, 05:57:41
Quote from: Hakhu;139672
How can you be sure that it's a Cherry? Do you have specifics?


I'm not perfectly sure, but apart from the logo, the case looks exactly like a g80-1000.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Hakhu on Mon, 07 December 2009, 06:08:32
are those keys g80-3000 compatible?
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: bsvP585hUO2Y6 on Mon, 07 December 2009, 06:18:32
Quote from: Hakhu;139682
are those keys g80-3000 compatible?


I just re-read the articles on cherry history. It seems like the
g81 shared the same case with the g80, so it doesn't neccessarily need
to have MX switches.  The article also mentions key incompatibilties:

,----[ http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Dating+Cherry+keyboards#Parts+interchangeability ]
| Keycap compatibility between G80 and G81 is limited:
|
| The old 102-key sets appear to be pretty much
| interchangeable. However, it may happen that the original caps
| click into place in a way that G81 ones won't, in return the G80
| ones will be pretty tight - possibly they "get used to" their
| switches over time.  The G81s with new-style 3000 case (ca. 1998
| onwards) introduced a number of changes, especially with the
| stabilized keys, but also the others on the bottom row (which are
| in part attached off-center while that is not the case on a G80,
| at least a Czech-made one).
|
| Cases
|
| In general, cases have always been the same in G80 and G81 models from the same factory. In particular, they should be interchangeable between:
| * G80-1000 and G81-1000
| * 101/102-key G80-3000, G81-3000 (old-style case) and G83-3000
| * 104/105-key G80-3000 (old-style case or Czech-made) and G81-3000 (old-style case until ~1997)
| * 104/105-key G80-3000 (new-style case from German factory) and G81-3000 (new-style case)
`----
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Mon, 07 December 2009, 09:10:21
Keys should be quite interchangeable between 1000 series and old-style 3000 series boards, G80 and G81.

And yes, it's not that hard to recognize OEM Cherry boards on a reasonable-quality pic.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Hakhu on Mon, 07 December 2009, 09:23:28
Now that we've discussed it so much, there are already 5 bids on it. So it's probably going for more than I'd like to pay.

But thanks anyway ...
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Mon, 07 December 2009, 10:55:13
had my eye on that since like 4 days, sorry :D
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Hakhu on Mon, 07 December 2009, 11:03:34
No worries. I'd just have bought it hoping that those are double-shots. I'm still looking for some, for my Cherry G80.

Anyway ... Gratz. (I'm guessing you won?)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Mon, 07 December 2009, 11:05:38
Quote from: Hakhu;139755
No worries. I'd just have bought it hoping that those are double-shots. I'm still looking for some, for my Cherry G80.

Anyway ... Gratz. (I'm guessing you won?)


Yeah I won.
If you just want German double shot keys send me a PM. I have like 10 spare sets.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Hakhu on Mon, 07 December 2009, 16:38:20
Nope. I got German ones. I want US layout ones. Pretty hard to find on German Ebay. But $30 for shipping from the US is a bit much, for just keycaps.

But Thanks for the offer.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Tue, 08 December 2009, 10:56:05
Some more stuff:

G81-7000 (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360213819192&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) POS board
Old G81-3019HAD (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380185381150&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) (two-shot keycaps)
Toshiba branded ALPS LCM board (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320458937095&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) made in Ireland (I guess it's too new to be mechanical, but sort of a rare bird)

Incidentally, while I can understand why one may want to have a US layout (usually for programming purposes), I find that a regular German layout with some additions works quite well. I wouldn't want to miss those though, especially [] on AltGr+ÖÄ and \/ on AltGR+.-.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Wed, 09 December 2009, 07:22:21
This should be a Focus 2001:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250544436733&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Apple ergo board:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120502636077&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

3 ANSI boards, the beige one might be something:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260520432414&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

3x ps/2 Black !!! Cherry G80-11900 €24,99 BIN:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250544189295&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Apple Ext 2:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320459479563&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

NTC 'board in fairly good condition, no idea about the switches:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190355173862&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

10x G80-1800 for €20. If the pic is right these are used POS 'boards. I have one of them. Contains a GMK (http://www.gmk-electronic-design.de/de.html) controller and should be programmable. No software d/l at the GMK site though:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130345566185&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

And this G80-5000 didn't get any bids for €99. It is one of the two that sold for big €€€ some weeks ago. Looks like it is NIB too:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170411823820&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Wed, 09 December 2009, 08:41:33
Quote from: lowpoly;140393
This should be a Focus 2001:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250544436733&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Yep, the cover is a giveaway. Think I'll give it a try. In thumbnail view this looks like a severely yellowed board while it's just the cover.

Hmm, I think I've seen other such boards (sans cover) before but usually thought they weren't anything special.
Quote from: lowpoly;140393
NTC 'board in fairly good condition, no idea about the switches:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190355173862&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Heh. Originally this was supposed to be a Cherry, which obviously couldn't be, so I dropped the seller a line...
Quote from: lowpoly;140393
10x G80-1800 for €20. If the pic is right these are used POS 'boards. I have one of them. Contains a GMK (http://www.gmk-electronic-design.de/de.html) controller and should be programmable. No software d/l at the GMK site though:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130345566185&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

I'd think the Cherry Tools should support these, shouldn't they?
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 09 December 2009, 08:45:34
Damn.  That G80-1800 has an ISO layout.  Would they be difficult to mod into an ANSI layout?
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Wed, 09 December 2009, 09:29:47
Quote from: keyb_gr;140417
I'd think the Cherry Tools should support these, shouldn't they?
I don't think so, this is a 3rd party controller by GMK.

Quote from: itlnstln;140419
Damn.  That G80-1800 has an ISO layout.  Would they be difficult to mod into an ANSI layout?
There is a mod in the keyboard links wiki where a G80-5000 is converted from ISO to ANSI.

Moving a switch on a pcb is not easy as it requires a couple of precise drills. Esp. for the register pins or the switch may rotate.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 09 December 2009, 09:30:42
Crap.  It's not worth it for all that.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Wed, 09 December 2009, 10:23:36
Quote from: webwit;140484
Zustand: Gebraucht


The interesting part was in the questions to the seller:
Quote
   Die Tastatur war in einer Ausstellungsvitrine eines Handelsgeschäfts (Konkurs) zum Verkauf gelagert. Sie wurde lediglich zu Anschauungszwecken herausgenommen. OVP, Handbuch und zusätzliches Verbindungskabel liegen bei. Ich selbst (Nichtraucher) habe sie nie benutzt. MFG/


Says that the keyboard was stored in an advertising cabinet in a store (now out of business). It was just removed when needed. Seller says it contains the original box, manual and all cables and papers.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Wed, 09 December 2009, 11:58:09
Quote from: webwit;140484
Zustand: Gebraucht

This is common for tax reasons.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Thu, 10 December 2009, 04:38:19
Tipro 192 key POS 'board. Programmable, Cherry black, plate mounted, €49 + 5,59 shipping:

http://cgi.ebay.de/PROGRAMMIERBARE-TASTATUR-mit-192-TASTE-POS-TIPRO-KASSE_W0QQitemZ200406226049QQcmdZViewItemQQptZKassen_Abrechnungen?hash=item2ea9245481

There's more than one. They get relisted all the time.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: xyzzy on Thu, 10 December 2009, 13:49:28
Black Cherry G80-3000 LPMDE, currently at €1,50 + shipping:

http://search.ebay.de/330385696226

The seller lists it as "clicky" (blue stems). But on the other hand the part number suggests it's the linear version (black stems), so double check before bidding.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 10 December 2009, 13:51:13
I'm glad it works on Windows Millenium Edition.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Fri, 11 December 2009, 11:26:53
Quote from: sixty;139757
Yeah I won.
If you just want German double shot keys send me a PM. I have like 10 spare sets.


Got it today (http://geekhack.org/showpost.php?p=141349&postcount=2244), freaking MY switches. Board will be harvested and recycled before dawn.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 11 December 2009, 11:44:04
They type at work just like they do at home on their crappy rubber domes.  It's like trying to get a Boone's Farm drinker to appreciate Dom Perignon.  They'll just slam it down and be naked in 15 minutes.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Hakhu on Fri, 11 December 2009, 13:02:18
The keys look awesome, sixty. Now I'm even more jealous that I didn't get it. :second:
Good for you though.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: microsoft windows on Fri, 11 December 2009, 14:16:22
Quote from: ripster;141353
Watching tellers at grocery stores it looks like most POS registers use something like this switch.  They just bottom out everything - probably trained to just whack the key for accuracy.


I feel less bad now that I'm not the only one who checks out the checkout's computer keyboards. I've even found Model M's at grocery store checkouts before!
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Sat, 12 December 2009, 19:17:09
assortment of 4 SNI and Cherry boards (http://cgi.ebay.de/TASTATUREN-4-er-Set_W0QQitemZ330385648671QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMäuse_Tastaturen?hash=item4cec84ec1f) ("untested")
ESCOM branded Focus FK-2001 yellowing special (http://cgi.ebay.de/Escom-Tastatur-Zustand-fast-nicht-gebraucht-DIN_W0QQitemZ280433064079QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMäuse_Tastaturen?hash=item414b1cf88f)
1000 series Cherry (http://cgi.ebay.de/Computertastatur_W0QQitemZ290379622056QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMäuse_Tastaturen?hash=item439bf966a8) (unsure whether G80 or G81)
G80-3000HAD (http://cgi.ebay.de/Cherry-G80-3000HAD-Tastatur-gebr-voll-funktionsfaehig_W0QQitemZ170418932678QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMäuse_Tastaturen?hash=item27adc28bc6)
Compaq scanner keyboard (http://cgi.ebay.de/Compaq-Scanner-Tastatur-Model-RT6L5CTWGR_W0QQitemZ220524523093QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMäuse_Tastaturen?hash=item3358492e55)
Another ESCOM Focus, a bit less yellowed, with cover (http://cgi.ebay.de/Computer-Tastatur-ESCOM-Kabel-Schutz-Abdeckung_W0QQitemZ280437856209QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMäuse_Tastaturen?hash=item414b6617d1)

You can also buy a SNI POS board, the KBPC H, unused (http://cgi.ebay.de/Siemens-PC-Tastatur-mit-Karten-Leser-Funktion_W0QQitemZ270381234248QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMäuse_Tastaturen?hash=item3ef3fa3848) (I'm not sure who'd be interested in those though).
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Sun, 13 December 2009, 14:55:21
Got the 'yellowing special' as a switch donor for my red calculator. Thanks for the tip.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Mon, 14 December 2009, 13:25:01
Quote from: ripster;142065
Lowpoly,  When you open up your Alpsulator please post tips on how you did it.  I halfheartedly tried with mine and it didn't budge.
Remove the two screws under the feet near the display. Then remove all keycaps. The plastic switch holder plate is clipped into the outer shell with five clips. Two clips in the M+ row, three clilps in the '0' row (two at the sides, one at the bottom in the middle).

I used a watchmaker's screwdriver to get between the outer shell and the plate, then lift the plate up a bit. After 'losening' all clips start lifting the plate  out at the bottom using the USB port as a pivot, then pull out.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Mon, 14 December 2009, 19:58:49
Quote from: lowpoly;142063
Got the 'yellowing special' as a switch donor for my red calculator. Thanks for the tip.

Now let's hope it actually is a FK-2001 (same goes for mine). Sure looks like one though. (They also had these black Fujitsus that looked very similar to Peerless boards but were standard rubber domes...)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Thu, 17 December 2009, 07:45:57
The 10x G80-1800s have been lowered in price:

Standard version €25 shipped:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130340249185&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Version with GMK controller (I think) and hole in top, €24 shipped:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130345566185&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

And here is the G80-5000 again:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170420864315
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 17 December 2009, 08:02:55
Damnit!  Only if those 1800's were ANSI...
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mnemonix on Thu, 17 December 2009, 08:26:06
Quote from: lowpoly;143207
Version with GMK controller (I think) and hole in top, €24 shipped:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130345566185&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT


That's 24 Euros for 1020 Cherry MX blacks, or ~2.3 cents per key...
Sounds cheap, but what could we do with so many keys? :)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 17 December 2009, 08:27:07
Quote from: Mnemonix;143219
That's 24 Euros for 1020 Cherry MX blacks, or ~2.3 cents per key...
Sounds cheap, but what could we do with so many keys? :)

Swap them for browns and enjoy.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mnemonix on Thu, 17 December 2009, 08:27:52
Quote from: itlnstln;143220
Swap them for browns and enjoy.


That would still leave me with 1020 blacks.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 17 December 2009, 08:30:31
Do a Nostromo n52 mod?  Like 100 of them?
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Thu, 17 December 2009, 08:37:15
Quote from: Mnemonix;143219
That's 24 Euros for 1020 Cherry MX blacks, or ~2.3 cents per key...
Sounds cheap, but what could we do with so many keys? :)

Even worse, blacks rarely ever go bad, so there wouldn't be much point in keeping them for spares either. I don't know a PC pool in dire need of decent boards either.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 17 December 2009, 08:48:36
I would mod them to another type of switch and resell some of them.  The problem, then, is sourcing switches for relatively cheap.  The ones from Datacal are about $1 a piece.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Mon, 21 December 2009, 07:02:10
Quote from: keyb_gr;142434
Now let's hope it actually is a FK-2001 (same goes for mine). Sure looks like one though. (They also had these black Fujitsus that looked very similar to Peerless boards but were standard rubber domes...)

It came in today. Blue Alps, at least blue stems. Single shot keycaps. It also has a switch where you can swap Ctrl and CapsLock, in addition to the XT/AT switch.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Mon, 21 December 2009, 11:44:36
I opened one, they are complicated.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Mon, 21 December 2009, 19:38:04
Mine was supposed to be shipped on Monday, so I guess it'll take until the 23rd or even 24th.


Here's a Philips keyboard (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320464256335&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT), looks very IBM-ish but I'd guess it's a clone. Keytronic perhaps?
Unspecified vintage 3000 series Cherry, pickup near FFM only (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260525124190&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)
G80-3000LQCEU-0 (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270504340873&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Tue, 22 December 2009, 14:19:17
On the pics seen here, the spring was slightly different... from what litttle I know about springs, I judged that the ones in blues would be a bit heavier. Given the move towards lower-force switches in general, that makes sense.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: ibu on Tue, 22 December 2009, 14:36:38
Quote from: lowpoly;143207

And here is the G80-5000 again:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170420864315

Because I've to replace my broken Fujitsu KBPC-E I'm highly interested.
Do you know if a HAADE has brown switches like your Ergo?
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Tue, 22 December 2009, 14:55:22
Quote from: ibu;144505
Because I've to replace my broken Fujitsu KBPC-E I'm highly interested.
Do you know if a HAADE has brown switches like your Ergo?

G80-5000s always had browns, AFAIK. Be aware that they can become quite spendy, less than 200 is almost bargain basement category. Some have gone for 400+ but it seems at least part of these soon reappeared.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: ibu on Tue, 22 December 2009, 15:08:45
Quote from: keyb_gr;144520
G80-5000s always had browns,

Good to know.
Quote from: keyb_gr;144520
Be aware that they can become quite spendy, less than 200 is almost bargain basement category. Some have gone for 400+ but it seems at least part of these soon reappeared.

OK. 200 EUR is to much for me. I will see.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Tue, 22 December 2009, 15:12:30
Quote from: keyb_gr;144520
G80-5000s always had browns, AFAIK. Be aware that they can become quite spendy, less than 200 is almost bargain basement category. Some have gone for 400+ but it seems at least part of these soon reappeared.


Both reappeared, this one is one of them. Or I missed one.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Tue, 22 December 2009, 16:07:50
This one went for 300 something, I think twice. Then for 89 but was relisted for 99 shortly after and didn't sell since then.
Title: Re: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: bsvP585hUO2Y6 on Tue, 22 December 2009, 16:49:29
The one with US-Layout[1] that went for 200¤ doesn't appear to have been
relisted yet...

I actually spent some thoughts on bidding on the one that ran out with
no bids, but declined after a little experiment: I simulated a split
board using two G84-4100's next to each other.

At first, typing with the hands that far apart was horribly confusing.
The error rate remained annoyingly high for quite some time.  After half
an hour the dizziness waned, and I actually reached my humble 80 wpm.
When switching back to my MX11800 I was shocked that I could no longer
type on it without a scary high error rate.  I again needed half an hour
for it to get down to normal.

I decided not to mess with my motor neurons like this again until I
develop RSI and have no other options.

Footnotes:
[1]  http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320452409463
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Tue, 22 December 2009, 17:41:50
That's basically the same reason why I wouldn't want to switch to any layout radically different from QWERTZ - if you only ever type on your own boards, fine, but if you ever have to use any other, "normal" ones you're screwed. I'll be sticking to regular boards with a slightly tweaked QWERTZ layout plus aiming for a healthy wrist position for the time being.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Fri, 25 December 2009, 21:53:58
35 kg (around 8000) commodore keycaps: http://cgi.ebay.de/NEW-ca-35-KG-Commodore-Tastatur-Buttons-keys-Knoepfe_W0QQitemZ170421406307QQcmdZViewItemQQptZKlassische_Computer?hash=item27ade84a63#ht_3738wt_1166
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: 1839cc on Fri, 25 December 2009, 22:42:32
I know it's been discussed before, but what kind of switch did Commodore use? I had a 64 and then a 128 when I was a kid. I vaguely remember a linear feel, but I wasn't really paying attention since I was a kid at the time.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Sat, 26 December 2009, 17:09:48
10x G80-1800 now for Eur 19,- shipped:

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130340249185&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Goes back to Eur 22,- in "one day".

Quote from: 1839cc;145281
I know it's been discussed before, but what kind of switch did Commodore use? I had a 64 and then a 128 when I was a kid. I vaguely remember a linear feel, but I wasn't really paying attention since I was a kid at the time.


My old C64 has a Mitsumi made keyboard with linear switches. Springs are directly under the keycaps. Unfortunately, conductive rubber on pcb after that.
Title: Re: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: bsvP585hUO2Y6 on Mon, 28 December 2009, 14:14:54
bsvP585hUO2Y6 wrote on 5956 September 1993:

> The one with US-Layout[1] that went for 200 EUR doesn't appear to have
> been relisted yet...

Well, it just reappeared too...

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320468206909

I wonder if there is some sort of curse on G80-5000s.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Mon, 28 December 2009, 14:20:33
Quote from: bsvP585hUO2Y6;145980
bsvP585hUO2Y6 wrote on 5956 September 1993:

> The one with US-Layout[1] that went for 200 EUR doesn't appear to have
> been relisted yet...

Well, it just reappeared too...

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320468206909

I wonder if there is some sort of curse on G80-5000s.


Versand innerhalb Deutschlands, nicht ins Ausland. Bitte diesmal nur ernstgemeinte Angebote.

Guess Nigeria won this one again too.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Wed, 30 December 2009, 14:43:46
Who of you did just outbid me on that Endurapro? :mmph:
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Wed, 30 December 2009, 15:16:44
I had a bid going for up to 35 bucks on the Endurapro, however did not win it. Guess someone else here did. Same for the G80-3000 from the same guy, did not win that either.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Wed, 30 December 2009, 15:39:16
The LQCEU? That went pretty high, yep. Was just watching it.

So, what else do we have?

This auction for a Vobis (Highscreen) branded vintage G81?-3000 (http://cgi.ebay.de/PC-Tastatur-Highscreen_W0QQitemZ150401156548QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMäuse_Tastaturen?hash=item23049b85c4) wins the prize for the most ridiculously large font. The unreadable overlapping black mess is about 2 screens high and 3 wide here.
And another one. (http://cgi.ebay.de/PC-Tastatur-von-HIGHSCREEN_W0QQitemZ220533336785QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMäuse_Tastaturen?hash=item3358cfaad1)

One big old yellowed 102-key Dell (maybe AT102D, or rubber dome?) and a Packard Bell / BTC rubber dome (http://cgi.ebay.de/2-x-Tastatur-und-2-x-Maus-je-PS-2-Kabel_W0QQitemZ220532041174QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMäuse_Tastaturen?hash=item3358bbe5d6)

An Acer 6312-HW in greenish grey (http://cgi.ebay.de/Computer-Tastatur-ACER-6312-HW-PS-2-graugruen-1671_W0QQitemZ250553356365QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMäuse_Tastaturen?hash=item3a5624d04d), for that ultimate "Alps gone wrong" feel :p

This should be one of the venerable classic Dell QuietKey rubber domes (http://cgi.ebay.de/Original-DELL-Tastatur_W0QQitemZ200421791281QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMäuse_Tastaturen?hash=item2eaa11d631)

ESCOM "Fujitsu inside" board (http://cgi.ebay.de/ESCOM-PC-Tastatur_W0QQitemZ160390196047QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMäuse_Tastaturen?hash=item2558002b4f) - either that is some Fujitsu Peerless goodness or a bog standard rubber dome like the black one they else sold; one would need to check (seems it's the latter)

A mid-90s Keytronic rubber dome (http://cgi.ebay.de/Tastatur-PS2-Key-Tronic_W0QQitemZ250555274967QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMäuse_Tastaturen?hash=item3a564216d7), these seem to be quite decent (also OEM'd)

The old Philips IBM-lookalike (http://cgi.ebay.de/Philips-Tastatur_W0QQitemZ320468392457QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item4a9d679a09) is still in, too...

G81-8308 (http://cgi.ebay.de/Cherry-G81-8308-programmierbare-Tastatur-PS-2-Deutsch_W0QQitemZ180449640427QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item2a03a2ffeb)

keyboard from NEC 486 (http://cgi.ebay.de/Tastatur-fuer-Computer-486_W0QQitemZ170426026668QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMäuse_Tastaturen?hash=item27ae2ecaac) - that's a funny-looking one, any clue what it might be?

to be continued...
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Wed, 30 December 2009, 15:56:27
Came out 2nd with a limit of €46 for the Endurapro. Put only a few bucks on the G80 with clears, I can get one of those anytime after all.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: leos on Wed, 30 December 2009, 16:11:55
Quote from: Mental Hobbit;146617
Came out 2nd with a limit of €46 for the Endurapro. Put only a few bucks on the G80 with clears, I can get one of those anytime after all.


A friend take both of them. The cherry comes to me and the claky claka is for him. He loves the Loudness of a buckling spring Keyboard. He is a old scool coder. (cobol , assembler, etc)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lal on Wed, 30 December 2009, 16:27:25
Thanks keyb_ger, for keeping us updated bout ebay.de.  I don't have the time to follow new keyboard auctions myself, so your service is very much appreciated :)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: leos on Wed, 30 December 2009, 16:31:27
Another cherry mx 3000??? on ebay.de (http://cgi.ebay.de/Standard-Tastatur-von-CHERRY-Deutsch_W0QQitemZ270505005816QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item3efb5ad2f8)


Ibm Model M 1993 (http://cgi.ebay.de/Liebhaber-Tastatur-von-IBM_W0QQitemZ200422825488QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item2eaa219e10)

Cherry - Classic Line - G80-3000LSMDE-0 (http://cgi.ebay.de/Cherry-Classic-Line-G80-3000LSMDE-0_W0QQitemZ170426134063QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item27ae306e2f)

Cherry - Classic Line - G80-3000LSMDE-0 (http://cgi.ebay.de/Cherry-Classic-Line-G80-3000LSMDE-0_W0QQitemZ170426133868QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item27ae306d6c)

dESKO with Cardreader  (http://cgi.ebay.de/Profi-Tastatur-Card-Reader-Cardreader-Magnetkartenleser_W0QQitemZ250552776972QQcmdZViewItemQQptZKartenleseger%C3%A4te?hash=item3a561bf90c)

Fujitsu Siemens S26381-K397-V165. qwerty layout (http://cgi.ebay.de/Fujitsu-Siemens-Tastatur-Qwerty-Englisches-Layout_W0QQitemZ170418145690QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item27adb6899a)

Dont know about this. Its Seriell/D-Sub and has a qwerty layout (http://cgi.ebay.de/PC-Tastatur-Seriell-QWERTY-D-Sub_W0QQitemZ260530296001QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item3ca8d0d4c1)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Wed, 30 December 2009, 16:53:16
Quote from: leos;146629
Another cherry mx 3000??? on ebay.de (http://cgi.ebay.de/Standard-Tastatur-von-CHERRY-Deutsch_W0QQitemZ270505005816QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item3efb5ad2f8)
New-style 3000 case + bicolor keys = most likely a G81-3000.
Those aren't too interesting even for me... I mean, if I really wanted to buy a G81 to check it out and enjoy the unmatched dead octopus feel, I'd get one of the old (Highscreen) models with nice dye sublimated lettering. They are built better, too. Screw Windows keys.
(Maybe I should weed out my collection of G81s a little. I have just too many.)

These LSMDEs should go well.

IBMs are not on my radar any more. At one time in the late '90s they also had some reportedly really decent rubber domes that appear once in a while, can't remember which series (a better one IIRC). Maybe one like this (http://cgi.ebay.de/IBM-Tastatur-deutsche-Version_W0QQitemZ160389155946QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMäuse_Tastaturen?hash=item2557f04c6a).

The DESKO is a Cherry OEM, no doubt. I sighted another a few months ago, that one was a G81.

The board with the "serial" connector (which is just a DIN) seems to be a slightly yellowed Taiwanese rubber dome.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: leos on Wed, 30 December 2009, 17:06:18
Quote from: keyb_gr;146635
New-style 3000 case + bicolor keys = most likely a G81-3000. .

this must be a g80-3000

1. Logo to the left side
2. PS2
3.sharp edge bottom
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Wed, 30 December 2009, 17:18:38
Quote from: leos;146639
this must be a g80-3000

1. Logo to the left side
2. PS2
3.sharp edge bottom
AFAIK only G81s were available with Cherry logo printed on as a standard option, and G80s used old-style 3000 cases far longer than G81s did. In fact, those made in the Czech factory do to this day. The board in this auction has a new-style case (narrow-spaced LEDs, no extra LED label). The oldest G81 with a new-style case that I've seen was from 1998 (I own it now). For the G80 these were apparently not used before the color scheme change in 2002.
I've collected things like that in the "Dating Cherry keyboards" wiki.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Thu, 31 December 2009, 00:22:06
Quote from: keyb_gr;146644
AFAIK only G81s were available with Cherry logo printed on as a standard option, and G80s used old-style 3000 cases far longer than G81s did. In fact, those made in the Czech factory do to this day. The board in this auction has a new-style case (narrow-spaced LEDs, no extra LED label). The oldest G81 with a new-style case that I've seen was from 1998 (I own it now). For the G80 these were apparently not used before the color scheme change in 2002.
I've collected things like that in the "Dating Cherry keyboards" wiki.


Yeah, I actually wonder why the Czech made ones still have old cases. Overstock? They only have those molds?

Anyway, I'm too skeptic now on everything cherry - no more risk purchases for me. After a G86 with MX switches and a G81-1000 made in 2002 everything seems possible!
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: leos on Thu, 31 December 2009, 07:10:11
Quote from: sixty;146740
Yeah, I actually wonder why the Czech made ones still have old cases. Overstock? They only have those molds?

Anyway, I'm too skeptic now on everything cherry - no more risk purchases for me. After a G86 with MX switches and a G81-1000 made in 2002 everything seems possible!


Exactly!!!

I have a cherry with mx blues and it looks exact like this one Cherry mx 3000????? (http://cgi.ebay.de/Standard-Tastatur-von-CHERRY-Deutsch_W0QQitemZ270505005816QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item3efb5ad2f8)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Thu, 31 December 2009, 14:15:19
Quote from: sixty;146740
Yeah, I actually wonder why the Czech made ones still have old cases. Overstock? They only have those molds?

My theory is they inherited all the molds, PCB templates and stuff. Never change a running system.
Quote from: sixty;146740
Anyway, I'm too skeptic now on everything cherry - no more risk purchases for me. After a G86 with MX switches and a G81-1000 made in 2002 everything seems possible!

That was special order stuff, not run-of-the-mill boards. No need to panic.
Quote from: leos;146768
Exactly!!!

I have a cherry with mx blues and it looks exact like this one Cherry mx 3000????? (http://cgi.ebay.de/Standard-Tastatur-von-CHERRY-Deutsch_W0QQitemZ270505005816QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item3efb5ad2f8)

With ALL of:
* a beige new-style case
* two-tone key set
* Cherry logo on top left
?
Then I'd be really interested in the serial number.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Tue, 05 January 2010, 04:19:21
Can anybody identify this (allegedly Cherry) fossil (http://cgi.ebay.de/Tastatur-fuer-Bastler_W0QQitemZ170428021660QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item27ae4d3b9c)?

Sadly one key cap is missing, but otherwise it looks kinda hot. Switch stem is black, I've no clue when Cherry started using the current color code though.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: J888www on Tue, 05 January 2010, 05:27:52
Best bet is to ask seller.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Tue, 05 January 2010, 06:00:58
Quote from: Mental Hobbit;148083
Can anybody identify this (allegedly Cherry) fossil (http://cgi.ebay.de/Tastatur-fuer-Bastler_W0QQitemZ170428021660QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item27ae4d3b9c)?

Sadly one key cap is missing, but otherwise it looks kinda hot. Switch stem is black, I've no clue when Cherry started using the current color code though.

This one should use the old short travel switches, look here:

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=5418&highlight=cherry+0349

Also, I'm pretty sure this is an XT 'board.

I might bid on this if you're not interested anymore.

Edit: Doesn't look like the Cherry 'board I had in mind.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Tue, 05 January 2010, 06:24:37
Quote from: lowpoly;148091

I might bid on this if you're not interested anymore.

Go ahead, I'm rather curious than interested. Just post a review if you get it. :)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Tue, 05 January 2010, 07:27:38
Thanks. Those go usually for €€€, so we'll see.

Unrelated, here is a white HHKB lite 2:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180452858641
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sandy55 on Tue, 05 January 2010, 07:35:07
Quote from: lowpoly;148091
This one should use the old short travel switches, look here:

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=5418&highlight=cherry+0349

Also, I'm pretty sure this is an XT 'board.



Hmm... I think it's a Dah Yang ( Unitek ) board with MX Blacks.
Later version, K-151L (http://sandy55.fc2web.com/keyboard/unitek_k151l.html), has separated LEDs block.  

Also, I think it's an AT/XT switchable board like K-151L.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 05 January 2010, 08:30:34
Quote from: sandy55;148112
Hmm... I think it's a Dah Yang ( Unitek ) board with MX Blacks.
Later version, K-151L (http://sandy55.fc2web.com/keyboard/unitek_k151l.html), has separated LEDs block.
 
Also, I think it's an AT/XT switchable board like K-151L.

BTW, in Sandy's link above, you can see a real Cherry white (pic courtesy of Sandy55):
 
(http://sandy55.fc2web.com/keyboard/unitek/sw_space2s.jpg)
 
Vs. the Cherry Clear (pic courtesy of ripster):
 
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=5536&stc=1&d=1257380717)
 
The difference is subtle but noticable.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Tue, 05 January 2010, 09:26:02
Quote from: sandy55;148112
Hmm... I think it's a Dah Yang ( Unitek ) board with MX Blacks.
Later version, K-151L (http://sandy55.fc2web.com/keyboard/unitek_k151l.html), has separated LEDs block.  

Also, I think it's an AT/XT switchable board like K-151L.

I must have still been sleeping when looking at that auction pic. :-( Looks totally different than the old Cherry I was thinking of. Also looks like an AT layout.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sandy55 on Tue, 05 January 2010, 17:28:52
Quote from: itlnstln;148120
BTW, in Sandy's link above, you can see a real Cherry white (pic courtesy of Sandy55):
 
Show Image
(http://sandy55.fc2web.com/keyboard/unitek/sw_space2s.jpg)




Sorry for a bad picture with too strong flashing light.
It's actually Gray but not white ( or clear ) with a stronger spring for a Space key.
Actually it look like this one (http://sandy55.fc2web.com/keyboard/g80-2100/sw_space.jpg) ( from another board ).

I know what is "Clear". I do have a MX1800 and a 8xxx board with those switches.   but ...I don't like strong tactile feel of MX Whites.
Still can't find any good reason ( for me ) of *strong* tactile feel.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sandy55 on Tue, 05 January 2010, 19:47:14
Quote from: ripster;148264
Sandy, Chloe has in the Cherry Wiki these two switches.

 These I believe are different from the Clear

Have you ever tried the "white" ones (MX1A-A) and this mysterious Clicky one?


white: click
I suppose she referred this one (http://sandy55.fc2web.com/keyboard/chicony_kb5191.html). see part II  (http://sandy55.fc2web.com/keyboard/chicony_kb5191_2.html).   Unusual white ( or clear, whatever ) but clicky Cherry MX  not a poor horrible knock-off found in newer chicony KB-5191.
I think this one is not suitable to be listed in wiki as clicky MX.

White: tactile, 80cN, MX1A-A *
Not sure about this one.  

Clear: soft tactile, 55cN, MX1A-C
This one is usual soft tactile switch which you call *Clear*. and Cherry also call it clear too. To me it's not *soft* but just *hard*.  
If we follow to color definition by Cherry, *Clear* may be appropriate to call soft tactile.    

Maybe I have to use *Clear* iso  *White* for these switches.  you may be sensitive about color of keystem of MX as like as I am about that of ALPS.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Wed, 06 January 2010, 08:59:49
Just bought my first Model M (http://cgi.ebay.de/IBM-Tastatur-IBM-Model-M_W0QQitemZ250559302855QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item3a567f8cc7), 'buy now'-price 20€. :cheer2:
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 06 January 2010, 09:08:02
Congrats.  You'll enjoy it.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Wed, 06 January 2010, 09:37:05
Yup, if it is as described then this was a pretty good deal.

A Model M is one of those boards that everyone should have in the collection, even if just as a reference point.

(I have two more than I actually use, obtained back when there was an opportunity to get one for like 10 or 20 DM a piece.)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 06 January 2010, 09:58:00
That one looks pretty close to the clear.  It pretty much looks like a stiffer blue.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Wed, 06 January 2010, 11:41:46
Oh, incidentally, my ESCOM Focus FK2001 never made it to me. Reportedly the postal truck had a bad accident and burned out. :(

Poor old 'board. May it rest in pieces.

The seller has offered me a refund.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: leos on Wed, 06 January 2010, 12:19:16
Quote from: keyb_gr;146834
My theory is they inherited all the molds, PCB templates and stuff. Never change a running system.

That was special order stuff, not run-of-the-mill boards. No need to panic.

With ALL of:
* a beige new-style case
* two-tone key set
* Cherry logo on top left
?
Then I'd be really interested in the serial number.


Sorry for take to long, i have to go to a friend he became this as a gift from me. yes i think it is the new style case identical to this one on ebay, NO, yes and the ser. is C 001458 o06 / G80-3000LSMDE-0 /00
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: leos on Wed, 06 January 2010, 12:38:49
IBM MOdel M 1993 (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200422825488)

qwerty dont know what it is seriel (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260530296001)

Mini Keyboard rubber dome (http://cgi.ebay.de/Mini-Tastatur-PS2-Englisch-ohne-Trackball-ohne-Touchpad_W0QQitemZ170426084696QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item27ae2fad58)

Fujitsu, Typ FKB8720, P/N N860-8726-T353 (http://cgi.ebay.de/PC-Tastatur-alte-Schnittstelle_W0QQitemZ190362520894QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item2c527d8d3e)

G80-1000HAD/09 MF / PC/XT / AT 02 DIN Anschluss (http://cgi.ebay.de/Cherry-Tastatur-DIN-fuer-alte-IBM-PC-XT-und-AT-geeignet_W0QQitemZ280447279291QQcmdZViewItemQQptZKlassische_Computer?hash=item414bf5e0bb)

Ibm Model m QWERTZ (http://cgi.ebay.de/IBM-Tastatur-Model-M-Monster-Klick-und-Stabil_W0QQitemZ270509857816QQcmdZViewItemQQptZKlassische_Computer?hash=item3efba4dc18)

Ibm Model M 1985 qwertz (http://cgi.ebay.de/IBM-Model-M-im-TOP-ZUSTAND-MW-Handbuch_W0QQitemZ260532420476QQcmdZViewItemQQptZKlassische_Computer?hash=item3ca8f13f7c)

G84-4700LPBDE-0 Nummernblock PS/2 43,28 (http://cgi.ebay.de/Cherry-Tastatur-G84-4700LPBDE-0-Nummernblock-PS-2_W0QQitemZ390128976289QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item5ad57fc1a1)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: leos on Wed, 06 January 2010, 12:58:12
Quote from: ripster;148512
Is it my imagination or are Model M prices rising in Europe too?

yea they are Hyped!!

Everyone thinks if he has one its automatically a Hacker.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: leos on Wed, 06 January 2010, 13:16:36
Very Old Keyboard ....something for our geekhacker/modder (http://cgi.ebay.de/uralte-Tastatur-25-Jahre-mit-Zeichen-Elsa_W0QQitemZ150401801167QQcmdZViewItemQQptZKlassische_Computer?hash=item2304a55bcf)

a cheap way to take a Ibm Model M qwertz in Germany (http://cgi.ebay.de/IBM-Personal-System-2-Modell-60-80286_W0QQitemZ300383024120QQcmdZViewItemQQptZKlassische_Computer?hash=item45f03933f8)

Vintage notebook IBM PS/2 Portable (Koffer-PC) P70 386-20 (http://cgi.ebay.de/IBM-PS-2-Portable-Koffer-PC-P70-386-20_W0QQitemZ130355819653QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAntike_B%C3%BCrotechnik?hash=item1e59cff485)

for ripster (http://spielzeug.shop.ebay.de/LEGO-/13315/i.html?_nkw=tastatur&_catref=1&_fln=1&_sac=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m282)

now this is a big deal 20 MB IBM PS2 HDD WD-325N P/N 90X6806 Hard Disk Drive (http://cgi.ebay.de/20-MB-IBM-PS2-HDD-WD-325N-P-N-90X6806-Hard-Disk-Drive_W0QQitemZ250554619134QQcmdZViewItemQQptZKlassische_Computer?hash=item3a563814fe)

IBM XT 286 Typ 5150,  UR-PC. Look at the keyboard
 (http://cgi.ebay.de/IBM-XT-286-Typ-5150-der-UR-PC_W0QQitemZ320468410938QQcmdZViewItemQQptZKlassische_Computer?hash=item4a9d67e23a)

anyone knows what kind of keyboard is this?? (http://cgi.ebay.de/Alter-PC-Pentium-S-75Mhz-Windows-3-11-DOS-6-22-Sammler_W0QQitemZ110476155852QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDE_Technik_Computer_Peripherieger%C3%A4te_PC_Systeme?hash=item19b8e45bcc)

looks like a oem cherry (Acrobat) (http://cgi.ebay.de/Tastertur-Acrobat-und-Maus-Logitech-alt-PC-Computer_W0QQitemZ280445694349QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item414bddb18d)

old one ibm look 20min (http://cgi.ebay.de/PC-Tastatur-stabil-und-solide_W0QQitemZ280447437785QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item414bf84bd9)

for ripster 2 (http://spielzeug.shop.ebay.de/Playmobil-/19854/i.html?_nkw=tastatur&_catref=1&_fln=1&_sac=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m282)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: JBert on Wed, 06 January 2010, 13:56:00
Quote from: leos;148519
IBM XT 286 Typ 5150,  UR-PC. Look at the keyboard
 (http://cgi.ebay.de/IBM-XT-286-Typ-5150-der-UR-PC_W0QQitemZ320468410938QQcmdZViewItemQQptZKlassische_Computer?hash=item4a9d67e23a)
That seems to be a terminal keyboard, probably not made by IBM.

The original keyboard was the model F XT which has only 83 keys.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Wed, 06 January 2010, 14:07:40
Quote from: leos;148502
Sorry for take to long, i have to go to a friend he became this as a gift from me. yes i think it is the new style case identical to this one on ebay, NO, yes and the ser. is C 001458 o06 / G80-3000LSMDE-0 /00

This would make it a 2002 vintage Czech-made board, and therefore with old-style case I'm afraid.

Observe the LED label area closely, first of all there should be a slightly recessed light grey label the width of the num block there (easier to see if the case is a bit yellowed), and LED spacing should be about 2.5 cm (1").
New-style cases do not have an extra label, rather the indicator labels are lasered on the plastic. LED spacing is about 1.4 cm, as the circuit board underneath isn't very big.
This difference usually is plainly visible on photos.

In addition, when looking at the underside of the case, old-style cases have latches on the top only, while new-style ones have them all around the circumference. Old-style cases are much easier to open.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Wed, 06 January 2010, 14:29:42
Quote from: ripster;148512
Is it my imagination or are Model M prices rising in Europe too?
I don't see why they should be going down in the long run. Thankfully there seemingly still are quite a bit of them floating around.
Quote from: leos;148519
Vintage notebook IBM PS/2 Portable (Koffer-PC) P70 386-20 (http://cgi.ebay.de/IBM-PS-2-Portable-Koffer-PC-P70-386-20_W0QQitemZ130355819653QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAntike_B%C3%BCrotechnik?hash=item1e59cff485)
It has been a while since I last checked PS/2 P70 prices, but they seemed to be going for around 100€ at the time.
Quote from: leos;148519
anyone knows what kind of keyboard is this?? (http://cgi.ebay.de/Alter-PC-Pentium-S-75Mhz-Windows-3-11-DOS-6-22-Sammler_W0QQitemZ110476155852QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDE_Technik_Computer_Peripherieger%C3%A4te_PC_Systeme?hash=item19b8e45bcc)
Not easy to tell, but I'd say Fujitsu FKB8720 or something like that. Those would be a bog standard rubber dome.
Quote from: leos;148519
looks like a oem cherry (Acrobat) (http://cgi.ebay.de/Tastertur-Acrobat-und-Maus-Logitech-alt-PC-Computer_W0QQitemZ280445694349QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item414bddb18d)
Yeah, G81-3000. Hmm, if those are from a Pentium 75, that would date G81s with new-style case to 1996. This is quite possible, the 1996...1997 time span still is a bit mysterious to me in terms of G81s.
Quote from: leos;148519
old one ibm look 20min (http://cgi.ebay.de/PC-Tastatur-stabil-und-solide_W0QQitemZ280447437785QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item414bf84bd9)
That one could use a Retr0bright treatment. Has a speaker, too?! Hmm, Zenith?
Quote from: leos;148510
qwerty dont know what it is seriel (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260530296001)
I still say it's a bog standard rubber dome with a DIN plug. Too curvy. Rather exotic anyway.
Quote from: leos;148510
Fujitsu, Typ FKB8720, P/N N860-8726-T353 (http://cgi.ebay.de/PC-Tastatur-alte-Schnittstelle_W0QQitemZ190362520894QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item2c527d8d3e)
See, there we have a FKB8720.
Quote from: leos;148510
G80-1000HAD/09 MF / PC/XT / AT 02 DIN Anschluss (http://cgi.ebay.de/Cherry-Tastatur-DIN-fuer-alte-IBM-PC-XT-und-AT-geeignet_W0QQitemZ280447279291QQcmdZViewItemQQptZKlassische_Computer?hash=item414bf5e0bb)
Boy, that's a really old one. :geezer:
Now where's a geezer smiley when you need one...? Grmbl, so much junk in the icon list here and hardly anything useful.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: leos on Wed, 06 January 2010, 14:40:37
Geeky stuff from ebay.de

hocker (enter) (http://cgi.ebay.de/Hocker-Sitzhocker-wie-Tastatur-Motiv-Enter-Holz-schwarz_W0QQitemZ120501373315QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDe_Haus_Garten_Inneneinrichtung_St%C3%BChle?hash=item1c0e710983)

hocker (del) (http://cgi.ebay.de/Hocker-Sitzhocker-wie-Tastatur-Motiv-DEL-Holz-schwarz_W0QQitemZ110465511944QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDe_Haus_Garten_Inneneinrichtung_St%C3%BChle?hash=item19b841f208)

full mechanic for modder but not very cheap (http://cgi.ebay.de/Fanuc-Tastatur-KBA-G2817B-9442-259A9666P2-Neu-CNC_W0QQitemZ350157624280QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotoren_Getriebe?hash=item51870553d8)

Siemens 6AV1720-0AA00 TASTATUR VDU 2000 @ 999€ (http://cgi.ebay.de/SIEMENS-6AV1720-0AA00-TASTATUR-VDU-2000_W0QQitemZ400062833681QQcmdZViewItemQQptZSPS_Bus_Logiksysteme?hash=item5d259a6411)

84 Tasten OmniKey POS Tastatur Premium OMC-3200 (http://cgi.ebay.de/84-Tasten-OmniKey-POS-Tastatur-Premium-OMC-3200_W0QQitemZ220536194199QQcmdZViewItemQQptZKassen_Abrechnungen?hash=item3358fb4497)

10xcherry g80 1800 for 10€ + 9€ shipping (http://cgi.ebay.de/Tastatur-posten-10X-Cherry-G80-qualitativ-hochwertig_W0QQitemZ130355851962QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGro%C3%9Fhandelsposten?hash=item1e59d072ba)

POS Keyboard Wincor Nixdorf TA85 @ 15€ (http://cgi.ebay.de/Wincor-Nixdorf-TA85-POS-Kassentastatur-Tastatur_W0QQitemZ370288532064QQcmdZViewItemQQptZKassen_Abrechnungen?hash=item5636ea9a60)

Sigma ekb 80 for 1€ (http://cgi.ebay.de/Sigma-EKB-80-Alphanumerische-Tastatur_W0QQitemZ150401934669QQcmdZViewItemQQptZKassen_Abrechnungen?hash=item2304a7654d)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Wed, 06 January 2010, 14:53:14
Quote from: leos;148550
Geeky stuff from ebay.de

hocker (enter) (http://cgi.ebay.de/Hocker-Sitzhocker-wie-Tastatur-Motiv-Enter-Holz-schwarz_W0QQitemZ120501373315QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDe_Haus_Garten_Inneneinrichtung_St%C3%BChle?hash=item1c0e710983)

hocker (del) (http://cgi.ebay.de/Hocker-Sitzhocker-wie-Tastatur-Motiv-DEL-Holz-schwarz_W0QQitemZ110465511944QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDe_Haus_Garten_Inneneinrichtung_St%C3%BChle?hash=item19b841f208)

LOL. "Mind taking a seat on my Del key, please?"

It's a cool idea. An original stepped Return key would be even better though.
Quote from: leos;148550
10xcherry g80 1800 for 10€ + 9€ shipping (http://cgi.ebay.de/Tastatur-posten-10X-Cherry-G80-qualitativ-hochwertig_W0QQitemZ130355851962QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGro%C3%9Fhandelsposten?hash=item1e59d072ba)

At some point they'll GIVE them away.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: ibu on Wed, 06 January 2010, 15:09:22
Quote from: keyb_gr;148560

Quote
10xcherry g80 1800 for 10€ + 9€ shipping

At some point they'll GIVE them away.

I will get one - without shipping. I'm living very near to the address their sold.

Thanks, leos.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 06 January 2010, 15:16:52
Quote from: keyb_gr;148560
At some point they'll GIVE them away.

I would have bought them if they were ANSI.  I'm suprised no one from Europe jumped on these.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Wed, 06 January 2010, 15:24:34
Quote from: itlnstln;148577
I'm suprised no one from Europe jumped on these.

Well, if I had to equip some PC pool, then I might have bought a few sets, but otherwise I'd have no idea what to do with ten of these.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 06 January 2010, 15:40:45
Sell the others.  At that price, I would just give some away or toss any particularly ugly ones.
Title: Re: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: bsvP585hUO2Y6 on Wed, 06 January 2010, 15:45:05
itlnstln wrote on 5971 September 1993:

> I would have bought them if they were ANSI. I'm suprised no one from
> Europe jumped on these.

I have to admit the price is quite tempting as I don't have a black
cherry board in my collection yet.  OTOH They're used POS equipment and
probably had a rather life.  I also prefer boards without microsoft
advertisements on them, and that hole in the case above the LEDs looks
suspicious.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: leos on Wed, 06 January 2010, 15:59:20
apple lisa kb qwerty (http://cgi.ebay.de/Tastatur-Apple-Lisa-Keyboard-US-Belegung-def_W0QQitemZ120514637811QQcmdZViewItemQQptZKlassische_Computer?hash=item1c0f3b6ff3)

DEC digital VT 420 VAX ALPHA - LK401 QWERTZ  (http://cgi.ebay.de/DEC-digital-VT-420-VAX-ALPHA-LK401-QWERTZ-Tastatur_W0QQitemZ110476893960QQcmdZViewItemQQptZKlassische_Computer?hash=item19b8ef9f08)

Tastatur AT&T RS3000 qwertz (http://cgi.ebay.de/Tastatur-AT-T-RS3000_W0QQitemZ150402345815QQcmdZViewItemQQptZKlassische_Computer?hash=item2304adab57)

MAI Basic FOUR Terminal Modell: MM710135:400646-013 / RJ-9 / RJ-10 / RJ-22  4-polig qwertz (http://cgi.ebay.de/MAI-Basic-FOUR-Terminal-Tastatur_W0QQitemZ320469961724QQcmdZViewItemQQptZKlassische_Computer?hash=item4a9d7f8bfc)

NMB Terminal 102 key qwertz (http://cgi.ebay.de/NMB-Terminal-Tastatur-mit-102-Tasten_W0QQitemZ320469961467QQcmdZViewItemQQptZKlassische_Computer?hash=item4a9d7f8afb)

now thats a real keyboard (http://cgi.ebay.de/RFT-KC85-4-KC-85-4-Tastatur-Funktioniert_W0QQitemZ260522040727QQcmdZViewItemQQptZKlassische_Computer?hash=item3ca852dd97)

old Fujitsu Siemens keyboard qwertz (http://cgi.ebay.de/PC-Tastatur-PS-2-mit-Kabel-Fujitsu-Siemens_W0QQitemZ150402168287QQcmdZViewItemQQptZKlassische_Computer?hash=item2304aaf5df)

DDR PC (east germany) and Keyboard (http://cgi.ebay.de/DDR-Computer-KC85-3-schwarz-fuer-Bastler-mit-Tastatur_W0QQitemZ300383621909QQcmdZViewItemQQptZKlassische_Computer?hash=item45f0425315)

Texas Instruments TI-99/4A  (http://cgi.ebay.de/Texas-Instruments-TI-99-4A-Tastatur-Top_W0QQitemZ350300518417QQcmdZViewItemQQptZKlassische_Computer?hash=item518f89b811)

19" keyboard (http://cgi.ebay.de/19-Zoll-Tastatureinschub-1-HE-mit-Tastatur-deutsch-PS2_W0QQitemZ110475898988QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDE_Technik_Computer_Peripherieger%C3%A4te_PC_Systeme?hash=item19b8e0706c)


commodore and amiga keyboards are not listed here
Title: Re: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: bsvP585hUO2Y6 on Wed, 06 January 2010, 16:07:22
leos wrote on 5971 September 1993:

> Tastatur AT&T RS3000 qwertz

Eew, RS3000 sounds like rubberdomes inside a G81-3000 case.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Wed, 06 January 2010, 16:21:49
Quote from: leos;148592
DEC digital VT 420 VAX ALPHA - LK401 QWERTZ  (http://cgi.ebay.de/DEC-digital-VT-420-VAX-ALPHA-LK401-QWERTZ-Tastatur_W0QQitemZ110476893960QQcmdZViewItemQQptZKlassische_Computer?hash=item19b8ef9f08)
Is the LK401 any better than the LK201? The latter has the doubtful reputation of a wrist killer.
EDIT: They're no fun to type on at least. (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?p=141629&postcount=3)
Quote from: leos;148592
old Fujitsu Siemens keyboard qwertz (http://cgi.ebay.de/PC-Tastatur-PS-2-mit-Kabel-Fujitsu-Siemens_W0QQitemZ150402168287QQcmdZViewItemQQptZKlassische_Computer?hash=item2304aaf5df)
You do have a certain FKB8720 affinity today, don't you? ;)
Quote from: bsvP585hUO2Y6;148597
leos wrote on 5971 September 1993:

> Tastatur AT&T RS3000 qwertz

Eew, RS3000 sounds like rubberdomes inside a G81-3000 case.
Indeed, they (G83-3000) were made for a few years before being superseded by the classic G83-6104/6105. These should still have dye sublimated lettering (like the Fujitsus), but even at the time keyboard enthusiasts "would not recommend them to anyone".

Here's a 1996 G80-3000LAMDE for a change. (http://cgi.ebay.de/Cherry-G80-3000LAMDE-Win95-Tastatur-SN-G011425_W0QQitemZ120514496020QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMäuse_Tastaturen?hash=item1c0f394614)

Here's the ?Zenith? yellowing special again (http://cgi.ebay.de/PC-Tastatur-stabil-und-solide_W0QQitemZ280447870596QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen)

IBM RapidAccess (I think) + 2-button mouse (http://cgi.ebay.de/pc-tastatur-Maus_W0QQitemZ320470983995QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMäuse_Tastaturen)

G84-4100P..DE, older model (http://cgi.ebay.de/Cherry-Electrical-G84-4100_W0QQitemZ130356227999QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMäuse_Tastaturen)

Black 1999 G81-3000HBD (http://cgi.ebay.de/Schwarze-Cherry-Tastatur-Keyboard-PS-2_W0QQitemZ230418607958QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMäuse_Tastaturen)

This Fujitsu (http://cgi.ebay.de/Computer-Tastatur-FUJITSU-Keybord-fuer-Computer-1-Euro_W0QQitemZ390138190995QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMäuse_Tastaturen) is a FKB47xx "Peerless" board, I think

Siemens KBPC EM or similar (http://cgi.ebay.de/PC-Tastatur-Siemens-Computer-Hardware-Zubehoer-Internet_W0QQitemZ300382775694QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMäuse_Tastaturen)

This is the chance for our Austrian readers to get a clicky G80-3000 (http://cgi.ebay.de/Cherry-Tastatur-Keyboard-mit-Klick-Deutsch_W0QQitemZ280447064319QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMäuse_Tastaturen)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Wed, 06 January 2010, 16:22:54
Quote from: bsvP585hUO2Y6;148585
OTOH They're used POS equipment and
probably had a rather life.  I also prefer boards without microsoft
advertisements on them, and that hole in the case above the LEDs looks
suspicious.


Actually they were of surprisingly good quality. The three I got came from a drugstore/pharmacy and therefore probably have been used with gloves on most of the time. There are like no traces of wear on mine. If you dig a few pages back in this long thread you will find some pictures that 42.tar.gz took.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: leos on Wed, 06 January 2010, 16:32:38
cocox oem Cherry G80-3000LAMDE Win95 (http://cgi.ebay.de/Cherry-G80-3000LAMDE-Win95-Tastatur-SN-G011425_W0QQitemZ120514496020QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item1c0f394614)

Mini Tastatur IBM Model M4-1 1379595  (http://cgi.ebay.de/Mini-Tastatur-IBM-Model-M4-1-1379595_W0QQitemZ320471081179QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item4a9d90a0db)

qtronix qx 901 qwertz (http://cgi.ebay.de/QTRONIX-Tastatur-deutsch-Model-Nr-QX-901_W0QQitemZ150402935593QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item2304b6ab29)

cherry g80 3000 qwertz (http://cgi.ebay.de/CHERRY-G80-3000-G80-3000-G-80-NEU-USB-Tastatur_W0QQitemZ290388280426QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item439c7d846a)

Escom qwertz  (http://cgi.ebay.de/PC-Tastatur-ESCOM_W0QQitemZ270510854881QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item3efbb412e1)

Looks like a IBM clone (http://cgi.ebay.de/Computer-Tastatur_W0QQitemZ320470943870QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item4a9d8e887e)

AEK 2 qwertz (http://cgi.ebay.de/Computer-Tastatur_W0QQitemZ320470943860QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item4a9d8e8874)

cherry blue mx qwertz (http://cgi.ebay.de/Cherry-Tastatur-Keyboard-mit-Klick-Deutsch_W0QQitemZ280447064319QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item414bf298ff)

dont know about this one (http://cgi.ebay.de/PC-Tastatur-gebraucht-aber-funktionsfaehig_W0QQitemZ190362783686QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item2c52818fc6)

Now this going to be a hot thread
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Mon, 11 January 2010, 11:17:39
PS: I was very happy to see that no one found or had any interest in this G80-2100 (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180450859402). Usually these go for quite a bit more. Finally I will be getting a "Cherry Key" to use for whatever reason. Should arrive here any day now.

(http://sandy55.fc2web.com/keyboard/g80-2100/sw_led2.jpg)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Mon, 11 January 2010, 11:30:42
Grrr...
   
    * Büro & Schreibwaren > Bürotechnik > EDV-Zubehör > Sonstige

Most likely that's why you had little competiton. I see that thing for the first time. Expecting a detailed review with lots of pictures of course! :tongue:
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: leos on Mon, 11 January 2010, 17:28:08
g80 3000? (http://cgi.ebay.de/einfache-Tastatur-und-2-Tasten-Mouse_W0QQitemZ160391749651QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item255817e013)

Cherry G80-3000 HSMUS qwerty (http://cgi.ebay.de/Cherry-G80-3000-HSMUS-Tastatur-unbenutzt-OVP-US-Layout_W0QQitemZ120514797908QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item1c0f3de154)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: meltie on Tue, 12 January 2010, 06:08:02
@sixty Were did you get that Cherry key? I want one, too.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 12 January 2010, 07:51:25
Is the Cherry G80-3000 HSMUS qwerty (http://cgi.ebay.de/Cherry-G80-3000-HSMUS-Tastatur-unbenutzt-OVP-US-Layout_W0QQitemZ120514797908QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item1c0f3de154)  Cherry Brown?
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mnemonix on Tue, 12 January 2010, 08:04:16
Quote from: itlnstln;150268
Is the Cherry G80-3000 HSMUS qwerty (http://cgi.ebay.de/Cherry-G80-3000-HSMUS-Tastatur-unbenutzt-OVP-US-Layout_W0QQitemZ120514797908QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item1c0f3de154)  Cherry Brown?


Description says: "Betätigungs-Charakteristik: Soft-Druckpunkt"
That's "actuation characteristics: soft pressure point", which I would guess means soft, tactile--thus browns.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: meltie on Tue, 12 January 2010, 08:07:15
HSMUS IMHO suggests Cherry blues with double shot keycaps and US-layout. The descriptions seems copy pasted to me.  

@webwit: I did, but it wasn't clear to me at first that he got the key from that board he bought.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 12 January 2010, 08:10:52
I going to ask someone to buy it for me if it were a BIN auction, but that's not the case.  Never mind.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Tue, 12 January 2010, 09:20:36
Quote from: Mnemonix;150273
Description says: "Betätigungs-Charakteristik: Soft-Druckpunkt"
That's "actuation characteristics: soft pressure point", which I would guess means soft, tactile--thus browns.


Browns are "soft tactile ergonomic" in Cherry speak, IIRC.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mnemonix on Tue, 12 January 2010, 10:39:27
I asked the seller: he says the keys are clicky.
So I was wrong.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mnemonix on Tue, 12 January 2010, 10:59:59
Quote from: ripster;150308
RULE 2 OF EBAY SELLERS - ALL keyboards are "clicky"  (they can charge more that way)

Hm, he put quotation marks around the word "clicky" in his answer... ;)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: didjamatic on Tue, 12 January 2010, 11:05:08
Ebay used to forbid the use of quotes in descriptions as it lends itself to the sellers interpretation or opinion more than facts.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Sun, 24 January 2010, 10:44:33
Jeez - a NIB G80-3000LFADE/00 (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230425530043) just went for € 31.50 plus shipping. Does that make sense? I can get that new with warranty @ 55.
Title: Re: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: bsvP585hUO2Y6 on Sun, 24 January 2010, 11:25:24
Mental Hobbit wrote on 5989 September 1993:

> Jeez - a NIB G80-3000LFADE/00 just went for ??? 31.50 plus
> shipping. Does that make sense? I can get that new with warranty @ 55.

You have a source for new 101/102-key G80s?  Last time I checked, only
the G81 was availabe without Microsoft advertisement keys.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Sat, 06 February 2010, 18:16:24
MX11900 ANSI layout (http://cgi.ebay.de/Cherry-Tastatur-mit-Mauspad-und-PS-2-Anschluss-ENGLISCH_W0QQitemZ280460959219QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMäuse_Tastaturen?hash=item414cc69df3)
G80-2100 (http://cgi.ebay.de/Programmierbare-Cherry-Tastatur-G80-2100_W0QQitemZ250575063915QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMäuse_Tastaturen?hash=item3a57700b6b)
Vintage G80/G81 restoration fun pack (http://cgi.ebay.de/2-Cherry-Tastaturen-PC-XT-AT-umschaltbar-s-Text_W0QQitemZ320484818956QQcmdZViewItemQQptZKlassische_Computer?hash=item4a9e62400c) ;) (any chance of getting that paint off? Alcohol? Other solvents?)
XT Model F (http://cgi.ebay.de/IBM-Keyboard-Tastatur-XT-Klick-Clicky_W0QQitemZ160401724530QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMäuse_Tastaturen?hash=item2558b01472)
IBM 3197 terminal board, 2 keycaps missing (http://cgi.ebay.de/IBM-Tastatur-Mod-K1A-Klick-abneh-Tastenkappen-XT-AT_W0QQitemZ120526750089QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMäuse_Tastaturen?hash=item1c0ff44189)
(Some of what should be IBM's better rubber domes, KB-7953 and KB-9910 also are out there.)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sethstorm on Sat, 06 February 2010, 20:33:07
Quote from: keyb_gr;156834
G80-2100 (http://cgi.ebay.de/Programmierbare-Cherry-Tastatur-G80-2100_W0QQitemZ250575063915QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMäuse_Tastaturen?hash=item3a57700b6b)
Now that's a (programmable) terminal keyboard that I'd not mind having aside my Model F and Model M ones.

Do those ever appear in the US, or somewhere that ships to the US w/o Filco-esque premiums?  It'd be a nice breather from all the SPOS boards I see in the US.  Or do I have to channel my inner Webwit and not care about shipping costs?
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: kishy on Sat, 06 February 2010, 21:02:04
WOW. WANT (assuming blue clicky Cherry switches).
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sethstorm on Sat, 06 February 2010, 22:32:13
Quote from: kishy;156850
WOW. WANT (assuming blue clicky Cherry switches).


Honestly, it wouldnt matter much whether it was a red/blue/black/brown/MY, as long as it was one of those switches(and not a rubber dome).  I can live with the nonstandard layout.  That, and the G80-2100 appears to be programmable, which is a big plus for what I'm concerned with in a keyboard.

At least with Cherry keyboards, you'd have a LOT easier time finding white-on-black keys.  The black doubleshot keyboards go for well under $100 per keyboard(making things easier for finding donor keyboards).
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: kishy on Sat, 06 February 2010, 22:36:24
I need a clicky keyboard to function...if it doesn't click, it's useless to me.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sethstorm on Sat, 06 February 2010, 23:18:20
Quote from: kishy;156860
I need a clicky keyboard to function...if it doesn't click, it's useless to me.


My desirables are clicky, programmable, and in a terminal keyboard arrangement.  Secondary to that is if it can be easily be re-keyed to a different color.  Bonus points go to keyboards that have significant mass/weight(e.g. type F's) to them.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: kishy on Sun, 07 February 2010, 00:00:57
You'll have all of the above if I'm understanding the homemade USB controller board in Modifications :D

Clicky - that's a given
Programmable - controller allows hardware level maps (written from computer, though)
Terminal 122-key arrangement - another given
Re-key to different colours - get another set of keys and dye them
Significant mass - that's a given

...with regards to the terminal keyboards you've already got.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Sun, 07 February 2010, 05:36:40
The G80-2100 isn't a terminal keyboard, and it has black MX switches. The resemblance to IBM terminals must be pure coincidence. ;) Sandy has one on his pages (http://sandy55.fc2web.com/keyboard/g80-2100.html) btw. It's the third of that type that has popped up in the last couple weeks. Sixty won the first one, I the second. This one will be most likely Meli's.

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=7695&d=1265242076)

Strange thing that this one is offered under a different ebay account, although identical text and pictures indicate it's from the same seller as the previous two.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: meltie on Sun, 07 February 2010, 06:07:32
I hope so :-) Maybe the text is copy pasted, a lot of people do that for their auctions. He only put the pictures up after I asked him ...
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sethstorm on Sun, 07 February 2010, 16:21:57
Quote from: kishy;156865
You'll have all of the above if I'm understanding the homemade USB controller board in Modifications :D

Clicky - that's a given
Programmable - controller allows hardware level maps (written from computer, though)
Terminal 122-key arrangement - another given
Re-key to different colours - get another set of keys and dye them
Significant mass - that's a given

...with regards to the terminal keyboards you've already got.

Not talking about remaps, talking about stuffing multiple, arbitrary keystrokes into a key at the hardware level a la the Unicomp boards.  My understanding of that board you're referring to is that it deals with single non-programmed responses.  It seems to be targeted towards more conventional layouts as well by looking at the source.  

That, and due to the design of the Terminal Model F, it would require extensive desoldering/soldering due to it using a series of wires for the specific interface.  I'm not sure it'd fit the Model M's either(extra pins?).

Having those multiple layer programmable keys up top makes it a LOT easier in that respect with regards to the G80-2100.  It has the terminal layout, and looks to be swappable for the keycaps on my G81-3000.  It's a decent non-IBM 122-key in that respect.  USB is something I could get with a Blue Cube or go without.

As for dye, the best I could hope for is a Realforce colorscheme (black on black).
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Thu, 11 February 2010, 19:14:13
Here's a G80-2550 (http://cgi.ebay.de/Cherry-MX2550-PS2-IBM-3270-Layout-Linux-Unix_W0QQitemZ160403737730QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item2558cecc82), 15€ BIN. So Cherry actually made terminal boards too, didn't know that.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: kishy on Thu, 11 February 2010, 19:24:21
Quote from: Mental Hobbit;157878
Here's a G80-2550 (http://cgi.ebay.de/Cherry-MX2550-PS2-IBM-3270-Layout-Linux-Unix_W0QQitemZ160403737730QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item2558cecc82), 15€ BIN. So Cherry actually made terminal boards too, didn't know that.

Might not be a terminal keyboard, might just be for 3270 emulation software (like the IBM Terminal Emulator keyboards that people always confuse for being terminal keyboards).

Since it's PS/2 I strongly suspect it's for emulation software and is therefore a normal keyboard with normal scancodes...
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: microsoft windows on Thu, 11 February 2010, 20:02:24
The caption says it functions under Windows.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: kishy on Thu, 11 February 2010, 20:11:40
Quote from: microsoft windows;157885
The caption says it functions under Windows.


This is what I get for not reading.

Yes, then, it's not a terminal keyboard...it's for 3270 emulation software running under Windows on a real computer.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sethstorm on Fri, 12 February 2010, 05:39:39
Quote from: kishy;157891
This is what I get for not reading.

Yes, then, it's not a terminal keyboard...it's for 3270 emulation software running under Windows on a real computer.

Terminal layout, emulation features.

That board layout is getting to be common enough to (almost) deserve its own wiki page here.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: meltie on Sun, 14 February 2010, 10:45:04
Damn it. Again I was outbid on a Cherry G80-2100 by 50 cent. I at least hope it was a fellow geekhacker...
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Sun, 14 February 2010, 12:53:47
Not me. And my understanding is this would be a violation of geekhack etiquette, so I rather hope it's none of us. If it's any consolation, the photo clearly showed the print on the Cherry key was all rubbed off.

Btw, you're cheap. ;P
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: meltie on Mon, 15 February 2010, 03:41:34
Yes, I saw the Cherry key and planned on asking you to swop :-)

But why am I cheap? I'd rather say, I was too slow to bid more. 5 or 10 EUR more wouldn't have hurt me, but I suppose some kind of bidding agent was used since the bid came in very late and I had no change to bid again.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Mon, 22 February 2010, 13:20:45
They keep coming:

http://cgi.ebay.de/alte-programmierbare-Cherry-Tastatur-G80-2100HDD-XT-AT_W0QQitemZ320491647825QQcmdZViewItemQQptZKlassische_Computer?hash=item4a9eca7351

Seems this guy has a lot of them? Maybe meltie will get her cherry key after all. Good luck!
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Mon, 22 February 2010, 13:26:48
Damn, did you have to post that? Now I have that arkward aardvark on my heels again. :mmph:
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Half-Saint on Mon, 22 February 2010, 13:47:55
Some very shiny keys! :)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: kishy on Mon, 22 February 2010, 14:07:55
I'm starting to want a G80-2100...

Seller is teasing though...no worldwide shipping, plus even if they did it would cost like $9001.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: meltie on Tue, 23 February 2010, 03:52:02
Quote from: Mental Hobbit;159986
Damn, did you have to post that? Now I have that arkward aardvark on my heels again. :mmph:


You got one already, go away. :boxing:

This time, I'll try a bidding agent or something. Not going into the same trap three times in a row. BTW, I'm not planning on removing the cherry key anymore, I will keep the board intact.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sethstorm on Tue, 23 February 2010, 07:44:43
And naturally, since it's a G80-2100 and not the nonprogrammable G80-2550, this pops up.

Quote
This item is not available for purchase on eBay United States.

    * Learn More about our accepted payments policy.
    * View the original listing on eBay and buy this item on eBay Germany

Quote from: kishy;159992
I'm starting to want a G80-2100...

Seller is teasing though...no worldwide shipping, plus even if they did it would cost like $9001.
Indeed.  I'd have no problem channeling my inner webwit to get one though.  So many SPOS's around in the US+Canada listings that my G81-3000 might appear to be "rare".

Can one add "no brokers" to the region limit and have it stick on ebay?
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Tue, 23 February 2010, 10:58:58
Quote from: meltie;160076
You got one already, go away. :boxing:


You're cheap. I'm greedy. We'll both have to bear with that.

Just another crappy Cherry with PCB-mounted black switches. Everybody move on, nothing to see here.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sethstorm on Tue, 23 February 2010, 12:19:13
Quote from: Mental Hobbit;160124
You're cheap. I'm greedy. We'll both have to bear with that.

Just another crappy Cherry with PCB-mounted black switches. Everybody move on, nothing to see here.

Except that it is also a programmable (multi-layer) 122, as stock.  The G80-2500's are not.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Fri, 26 February 2010, 07:37:29
White Ambra, three keys missing, shipping a bit expensive:

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150417910173
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 26 February 2010, 07:42:02
I have always liked those Ambra 'boards. The styling and font of the legends gives them a "softer" appearance than the standard Ms.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Half-Saint on Fri, 26 February 2010, 07:53:49
Is this a regular model M on the inside? Missing keycaps could turn out to be a problem tho... I mean, where do you get a replacement?
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 26 February 2010, 07:58:02
It is a regular Model M on the inside, but you would be better off buying a complete 'board (unless you already have another Ambra).  Replacement caps would be hard to come by.  AFAIK, Unicomp doesn't print legends like those on their replacement parts.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Fri, 26 February 2010, 08:30:57
Pity. That's a beauty for sure.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Fri, 26 February 2010, 09:24:56
Mailed the Ambra seller and explained her the concept of two part keys. She already replied she thinks the missing caps should still be somewhere, and she's turning her house upside down now. =)

With a complete set of caps, the board will probably become too expensive for me, but hopefully this beauty will be saved for posterity.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Fri, 26 February 2010, 12:31:06
Quote from: Mental Hobbit;160866
With a complete set of caps, the board will probably become too expensive for me, but hopefully this beauty will be saved for posterity.

IIRC mine were Euro 1,- each, or near.

I should get it for the case, considering one of mine is dishwasher-warped. But no.

If you get it, don't put the case into the dishwasher. :-)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Fri, 26 February 2010, 14:07:09
How many do you have? At 1€, I suppose noone else recognized them as Model Ms. I made a note not to put it in the dishwasher, should I ever get either an Ambra or a dishwasher. ;)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: meltie on Sat, 27 February 2010, 08:10:30
Mine was very cheap, too. The seller didn't know it was a Model M, and so didn't I before I got it.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: meltie on Sun, 28 February 2010, 08:32:24
It seems this time the auction of the G80-2100 I was bidding on was stopped by the seller. It seems I'll never get my G80-2100...
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Mon, 01 March 2010, 04:46:07
Quote from: Mental Hobbit;160954
How many do you have? At 1€, I suppose noone else recognized them as Model Ms. I made a note not to put it in the dishwasher, should I ever get either an Ambra or a dishwasher. ;)

Two, one is warped now.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sethstorm on Mon, 01 March 2010, 19:28:29
Quote from: meltie;161238
It seems this time the auction of the G80-2100 I was bidding on was stopped by the seller. It seems I'll never get my G80-2100...


At least you were in the same country.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Tue, 02 March 2010, 03:30:44
Quote from: meltie;161238
It seems this time the auction of the G80-2100 I was bidding on was stopped by the seller. It seems I'll never get my G80-2100...


Of course that insight doesn't keep you from getting in my way yet again. :mmph:

Btw, you'd have lost that cancelled auction too. For some very strange reason, all discarded bids on that are visible now.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: meltie on Tue, 02 March 2010, 04:48:45
That wasn't my ultimately highest bid. But seriously, why do you want another? Can't you let me get this one and start bidding on the next after it?
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Tue, 02 March 2010, 05:17:10
Quote from: meltie;161428
But seriously, why do you want another?


You may find out once you get one. ;)

Don't worry, I'm not going to bid much more than what I paid for mine. So you wouldn't have lost that cancelled auction to me, and you'll most likely win the current one. Sadly we can't know if there will be another one anytime soon.

Since I read all your comments with the Aardvark's German dub voice (which you certainly know) in my head,  it's just fun teasing you. ;P
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: meltie on Tue, 02 March 2010, 06:36:50
I will not have internet access when this auction finishes, so I'll bid some insane amount and see if I am finally successful.

The german dub voice is sooo great. The original voices of aardvark and ant are pretty boring in comparison.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Half-Saint on Tue, 02 March 2010, 12:16:06
Quote from: Mental Hobbit;160954
How many do you have? At 1€, I suppose noone else recognized them as Model Ms. I made a note not to put it in the dishwasher, should I ever get either an Ambra or a dishwasher. ;)


Are you planning to bid on this one?

Cheers
SainT
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Tue, 02 March 2010, 13:40:19
If you want it, go ahead!
I was thinking about putting in one euro only to save this battered beauty from the scrapyard. But actually I'd prefer someone else giving it a save home.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: kishy on Tue, 02 March 2010, 14:10:21
If anyone would be willing to obtain one (G80-2100 with blues) then ship overseas (Canada), let me know please. Can't commit until I see the costs involved.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Tue, 02 March 2010, 14:18:38
Quote from: kishy;161512
G80-2100 with blues

Afaik, all G80-2100s come with blacks.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Specter_57 on Tue, 02 March 2010, 14:21:23
..

As much as I too would like to get one of those G80-2100 thingies...I feel the best most likely scenario is the controller build and replace...that way it can be customized to taste and desire... and almost any 122key M terminal board can be pressed into service (..obviously).

.......
Spec57
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: kishy on Tue, 02 March 2010, 14:23:17
Quote from: Mental Hobbit;161518
Afaik, all G80-2100s come with blacks.


Oh? I thought it was said somewhere that they by default have blues...

I'll look back through this thread and the last one that mentioned them. There was another part number of the same layout; maybe that's the one which had blues.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Tue, 02 March 2010, 14:29:32
I think the only one with blues that was mentioned on Geekhack is mine. It didn't have blues when I got it though. ;)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: kishy on Tue, 02 March 2010, 14:38:41
Quote from: Mental Hobbit;161525
I think the only one with blues that was mentioned on Geekhack is mine. It didn't have blues when I got it though. ;)


Perhaps so...

I did find a reference to G80-2550, no luck finding reference to switch types. I guess the remainder of the model number is needed to be certain.

In any event, the 2100 I'd want would have blues and only blues.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Tue, 02 March 2010, 14:53:35
I'm pretty sure all Cherry MX boards that weren't built on custom order come with blacks. Only exception would be the basic  G80-1000/3000. When they're in doubt what the user might like, they go with the switch everybody dislikes equally.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Half-Saint on Tue, 02 March 2010, 14:54:47
Quote from: Mental Hobbit;161499
If you want it, go ahead!
I was thinking about putting in one euro only to save this battered beauty from the scrapyard. But actually I'd prefer someone else giving it a save home.


Thanks, I'll bid on it then. If I get it, all I need to do is find the replacement keycaps :D

Cheers
SainT
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: kishy on Tue, 02 March 2010, 14:55:42
Quote from: Mental Hobbit;161531
I'm pretty sure all Cherry MX boards that weren't built on custom order come with blacks. Only exception would be the G80. When they're in doubt what the user might like, they go with the switch everybody dislikes equally.


Lol, excellent plan...displease the masses.

G80...isn't, technically, the G80-2100 a G80?

(sorry, new to the world of Cherry)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Tue, 02 March 2010, 14:59:14
Quote from: kishy;161533
G80...isn't, technically, the G80-2100 a G80?

Err, me dumb... meant the basic G80-1000 (old case) and G80-3000 (new case), which can actually be ordered with blacks, blues or clears. At least in Europe. Edited.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: kishy on Tue, 02 March 2010, 15:02:18
Quote from: Mental Hobbit;161535
Err, me dumb... meant the basic G80-1000 (old case) and G80-3000 (new case), which can actually be ordered with blacks, blues or clears. At least in Europe. Edited.


That makes substantially more sense, thanks.

Whatever happened with that part supplier who listed 100+ MX switches for a ridiculously low price? Don't know what to search for so I can't dig up the thread.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Tue, 02 March 2010, 15:05:33
Quote from: kishy;161536
Whatever happened with that part supplier who listed 100+ MX switches for a ridiculously low price? Don't know what to search for so I can't dig up the thread.


As far as I remember, all orders were cancelled.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Wed, 03 March 2010, 06:34:45
gogogo

http://cgi.ebay.de/alte-programmierbare-Cherry-Tastatur-G80-2100HDD-XT-AT_W0QQitemZ120537359788QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMäuse_Tastaturen?hash=item1c109625ac
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: meltie on Wed, 03 March 2010, 06:44:55
Do not post links to it, it is enough that I have to fend of Mental Hobbit:tongue1:
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Thu, 04 March 2010, 11:39:59
An M2 (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170451884914&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) I think, no bids so far, one day to go.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Thu, 04 March 2010, 18:07:44
Has anyone seen any KB-5182s lately? These fabled Monterey switches are the one thing that I'd still like to try.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Nonmouse on Thu, 04 March 2010, 18:23:10
Of course, the important question is if any of our DE friends are willing to re-ship any of these decks to us poor Amis, who are dependent upon either the (tiny) trickle of clicky Cherry boards that make it over here, or upon the kindness of strangers....

/me gives puppy dog eyes @ Deutsche hackin' geeks...  O.O
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sethstorm on Thu, 04 March 2010, 18:56:58
Quote from: Nonmouse;161850
Of course, the important question is if any of our DE friends are willing to re-ship any of these decks to us poor Amis, who are dependent upon either the (tiny) trickle of clicky Cherry boards that make it over here, or upon the kindness of strangers....

/me gives puppy dog eyes @ Deutsche hackin' geeks...  O.O

Start making your e-bay listings CONUS/Canada only, no brokers/reshippers/region-crossing intermediaries until they relent.  While it might be hardball, there is that option if there's something for items only found in the US.  Again, it isn't the best option, but if you really want to make a point of it, go ahead and try.

The only thing worse than this is dealing w/ outfits that only deal with resellers.  IMHO, they're as bad as the worst of trial lawyers and used car salesfolk.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Thu, 04 March 2010, 19:19:35
Quote from: keyb_gr;161847
Has anyone seen any KB-5182s lately? These fabled Monterey switches are the one thing that I'd still like to try.


I'm constantly watching out for these, as mine is really well worn. Haven't seen any for two months though.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Thu, 04 March 2010, 19:27:02
Quote from: Nonmouse;161850
Of course, the important question is if any of our DE friends are willing to re-ship any of these decks to us poor Amis, who are dependent upon either the (tiny) trickle of clicky Cherry boards that make it over here, or upon the kindness of strangers....


Well, what are you looking for? I suppose most Germans here are willing to ship stuff over the pond to fellow geeks. The other question is if you're willing to bear the costs. Cheapest shipping option for a keyboard is about $50, plus whatever import taxes and customs fees apply to your place.

Quote from: Nonmouse;161850

/me gives puppy dog eyes @ Deutsche hackin' geeks...  O.O


If you're ~18, male, handsome, this works really well with me. :tongue:
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Mon, 08 March 2010, 07:50:11
http://cgi.ebay.de/Programmierbare-Tastatur_W0QQitemZ200445145390QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item2eab76312e

Rebranded (unbranded?) Gateway 2000. Never knew we had these with a German layout too. I am not interested in (even high quality) rubber domes, so maybe someone else wants to grab this.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Thu, 11 March 2010, 09:51:07
Quote from: sixty;162521
http://cgi.ebay.de/Programmierbare-Tastatur_W0QQitemZ200445145390QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item2eab76312e

Rebranded (unbranded?) Gateway 2000.


Shot this one. Probably it'll be crap... but I guess it should be interesting enough to justify an investment of €3,83.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Thu, 11 March 2010, 13:15:17
Ah, so that was you who got it. Gateway, huh? Good thing I didn't put in too much.

It'll be interesting to see which condition this black rebranded Focus FK9000-or-other (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330410768007&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT) arrives in. I hope I get more lucky than with my last attempt in terms of white Alps.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Thu, 11 March 2010, 13:59:27
Does it have a calculator built in?
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Thu, 11 March 2010, 14:28:34
Quote from: Mental Hobbit;163207
Does it have a calculator built in?

It would seem so, though given the track record of these things, the display is probably only half-working. Some classic conductive rubber connection problems.

Can anyone identify this board (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150421206258&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)? Doesn't really look like a NEC or OKI, it's close to a Fujitsu but the label is different, so at the moment I'm guessing it might be some NMB rubber dome.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Wed, 17 March 2010, 13:19:09
Quote from: sixty;162521
http://cgi.ebay.de/Programmierbare-Tastatur_W0QQitemZ200445145390QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item2eab76312e

Rebranded (unbranded?) Gateway 2000.


Arrived today. It's a Maxiswitch Maxi Touch. Seems this is actually the original, while the Gateway Anykey is the rebranded OEM version.
First impression is mixed: It's a heavy, sturdy rubberdome with metal backplate in excellent condition. Cherry compatible doubleshot keys, made of very thin, soft plastic though. The rubber domes feel rather good, but the sliders have some friction. Not much actually, but if there's anything I find totally unbearable in a keyboard, then it's friction. It's built like a Model M: Plastic-membrane-steelplate sandwich, held together by plastic rivets. In order to apply teflon or graphite to the sliders, I'd have to do a nuts and bolts mod.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Wed, 17 March 2010, 14:24:46
Quote from: keyb_gr;163192
It'll be interesting to see which condition this black rebranded Focus FK9000-or-other (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330410768007&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT) arrives in. I hope I get more lucky than with my last attempt in terms of white Alps.

This one also arrived today. Turns out it's a FK-3002, which I guess is the 9000's little brother without programmablity but still with a calculator (which happens to have a fully working display). Some impressions are in the latest FK-9000 thread. Looks like I'm not becoming an Alps guy any time soon.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Tue, 30 March 2010, 08:02:12
Did anybody here get this one (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190383105607&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)? Seller insists it's a G80-3000HGD (I asked twice), but I've never heard of G type switches. Wasn't willing to pay much for another beaten up Cherry only to solve that riddle though.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Wed, 31 March 2010, 13:04:38
Quote from: Mental Hobbit;168044
Did anybody here get this one (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190383105607&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)? Seller insists it's a G80-3000HGD (I asked twice), but I've never heard of G type switches. Wasn't willing to pay much for another beaten up Cherry only to solve that riddle though.


I believe I had a HGD board before and it was black MX. I could be wrong though, I have gone through way too many G80s.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Sun, 04 April 2010, 05:38:56
http://cgi.ebay.de/meto-8200-etikettendrucker-barcodedrucker-thermodrucker_W0QQitemZ110512914538QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDrucker?hash=item19bb15406a#ht_500wt_1182

METO 8200 Thermal Printer - Includes a special build G81-1000 with double shot ANSI layout keys. These probably are identical to the METO keyboard I own and have international legends added to the US English ones. Great keycaps, super rare keyboard.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Sun, 04 April 2010, 06:01:42
http://cgi.ebay.de/Tastatur-Kontron-K-6100C-KEY-Antik-PC-DIN_W0QQitemZ200455290119QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item2eac10fd07 - Terminal board - Probably some obscure ALPS green or blue board.

http://cgi.ebay.de/Pc-Tastatur-Mit-Neonfolie_W0QQitemZ270557765845QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item3efe7fe0d5 - Neon green Cherry G80 or G81. Says it must be picked up, maybe can re-arrange shipment with the seller?

http://cgi.ebay.de/Barbie-Tastatur-von-Greybusters_W0QQitemZ320510052697QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item4a9fe34959#ht_500wt_1182 - One for Mental Hobbit

http://cgi.ebay.de/16-Tastaturen-Cherry_W0QQitemZ320510080245QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGro%C3%9Fhandelsposten?hash=item4a9fe3b4f5#ht_500wt_1182 - Feeling lucky?

http://cgi.ebay.de/1-Karton-voll-mit-PS-2-Tastaturen-CHERRY-gebracht_W0QQitemZ120551004073QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGro%C3%9Fhandelsposten?hash=item1c116657a9#ht_896wt_941 - One more for gamblers.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Sun, 04 April 2010, 10:10:07
Quote from: sixty;169437

http://cgi.ebay.de/Barbie-Tastatur-von-Greybusters_W0QQitemZ320510052697QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%A4use_Tastaturen?hash=item4a9fe34959#ht_500wt_1182 - One for Mental Hobbit.


Nah, too little pink. That board would give me  a depression. Thanks for thinking of me though.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Tue, 06 April 2010, 10:59:01
G81-3000HAD (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180487225292), if someone needs a set of German doubleshots. I got more than enough now.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Tue, 06 April 2010, 19:34:54
Quote from: Mental Hobbit;170043
G81-3000HAD (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180487225292), if someone needs a set of German doubleshots. I got more than enough now.

Did you confirm that with the seller? All the G81 HAD samples I've seen so far were OEM production, and non-OEM ones were SAD (dye sublimated). That being said, I actually prefer the dye-sublimated ones, as they do not yellow and are much less likely to be worn shiny while still giving the same kind of contrast.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Tue, 06 April 2010, 20:09:48
Quote from: keyb_gr;170224
Did you confirm that with the seller?


I did. Is there any other way to tell from a photo what's in a 3000-style case?
Artikel-Nr.: G81-3000HAD/14
Serial-Nr.: 256297 E43
FCCID GDDSY0G81-3000
Seller is very accurate. :biggrin1:
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Wed, 07 April 2010, 09:33:59
Seems I'll have to update my Cherry dating wiki then.

There are a few hints that you can take from photos alone... dye sublimated and lasered keys are a bit brighter/whiter than the doubleshots, which are closer to the case color. Mucho reflection from under the keys indicates membrane-based boards (usually G81). The pic here is spot on then.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Wed, 07 April 2010, 10:17:53
Quote from: keyb_gr;170305
Mucho reflection from under the keys indicates membrane-based boards (usually G81).


Thanks, that's a good hint, I was actually wondering about the reflection.

I posted an expert question to the Cherry Wiki yesterday, which you might be able to answer:
Have you ever seen a G80-3000 with the Cherry logo printed on the case? All 3000 style cases with logo I've come across so far were G81s, so I'm wondering if the logo is a safe crap indicator on auction photos. I'm aware of course that most G81s don't have the logo either.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Wed, 07 April 2010, 11:54:19
Quote from: sixty;170324
I have both a G80 and a G81 with a lasered logo here right now, so going by the logo is sadly not a sure option to tell apart.


Thanks Sixty! Oh well, pasting my standard inquiry to sellers isn't that much work after all.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Fri, 09 April 2010, 11:41:18
Quote from: sixty;170324
I have both a G80 and a G81 with a lasered logo here right now, so going by the logo is sadly not a sure option to tell apart.

Grmpf. Which vintage was that G80? It apparently wasn't an option in 2000 any more.

That being said... I have a G80-1000 with a dye sublimated (I think) logo... my Peacock G81-3004HAD shows they could also do color.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Fri, 09 April 2010, 12:52:02
Quote from: keyb_gr;170903
Grmpf. Which vintage was that G80? It apparently wasn't an option in 2000 any more.

That being said... I have a G80-1000 with a dye sublimated (I think) logo... my Peacock G81-3004HAD shows they could also do color.


It is not even a vintage board. Its a 2008(?) made board with the newer Vista keys: G80-3000LSCEU-0. The G81 with identical looking case and a lasered logo aswell is: G81-3000LADUS made in 1997.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Fri, 09 April 2010, 15:10:03
Quote from: sixty;170938
It is not even a vintage board. Its a 2008(?) made board with the newer Vista keys: G80-3000LSCEU-0.

Ah, OK. That newfangled stuff doesn't count ;)
Light grey... should be a Czech-made sample, right?
Quote from: sixty;170938
The G81 with identical looking case and a lasered logo aswell is: G81-3000LADUS made in 1997.

That would have been a standard configuration.

Since it's not clear, do these have the old-style (wide-spaced LEDs with label) or new-style (narrow-spaced LEDs with lasered symbols) case?
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Sat, 17 April 2010, 05:30:56
An almost new looking G80-11900LPMUS (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280491778400&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT), one day left, no bids yet.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: eugenius on Sat, 17 April 2010, 10:15:50
Quote from: Mental Hobbit;172959
An almost new looking G80-11900LPMUS (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280491778400&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT), one day left, no bids yet.

Yes but it has black cherries.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: ricercar on Sun, 18 April 2010, 00:21:48
Black cherry is my favorite soda.  

My 11900 is quite satisfying. Was my daily driver for 2-3 weeks, lasting far longer than any ALPs or buckling spring board. Made me chuff at people who auto-dismiss Cherry blacks.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Sun, 18 April 2010, 10:54:46
I'm curious what this Desko (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280491794541&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) I just shot will turn out to be. I smell rubberdome, and the logo on the case looks a lot like Siemens. But I guess at €5 shipped it was worth a shot.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Sun, 18 April 2010, 11:43:24
Looks very much like a Siemens Nixdorf logo indeed, plus a seriously historic design. And it seems this thing won't interface with a regular PC that easily, at least the DIN plug isn't the regular 5-pin type. Sounds like one may want to ask in dafc, or wherever else collectors of old SNI computers may be hanging out.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Tue, 20 April 2010, 04:26:57
Here's a NIB Phoneboard (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190389787681&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT), ending soon, no bids yet. Cherry G80-1000 with black MX, NKRO and integrated phone. I just came to the conclusion that my Cherry tower is really tall enough now. Sigh.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Tue, 20 April 2010, 11:46:37
Quote from: Mental Hobbit;173700
Here's a NIB Phoneboard (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190389787681&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT), ending soon, no bids yet. Cherry G80-1000 with black MX, NKRO and integrated phone. I just came to the conclusion that my Cherry tower is really tall enough now. Sigh.


Whoever outbit me got a great deal. These are pretty good keyboards. NIB is sweet. Would have liked to win it, however since I already own two I don't really need a third :)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: lowpoly on Sat, 24 April 2010, 16:43:47
Apple Adjustable:

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130384129991
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: kishy on Sat, 24 April 2010, 17:01:18
GAH! WHY IS IT TO GERMANY ONLY?

Do these sellers actually have success doing this? Is the keyboard market in Germany big enough to support sellers not shipping internationally?
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Sat, 24 April 2010, 20:19:37
Quote from: kishy;175571
GAH! WHY IS IT TO GERMANY ONLY?


Cause most private sellers don't even think of the possibility that someone at the other end of the world might be interested in their old trash?
If you seriously want something from German ebay, you can always ask some local Geekhacker to make the deal for you. Shouldn't be a problem at all.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: kishy on Sat, 24 April 2010, 20:23:07
Well...what do we reckon shipping (via cheapest possible service, assuming the German postal system is reliable?) would be to Ontario Canada?

Something around 20-30 CAD with the purchase price being what it is ends up being manageable. More, not so much... Of course then there's two levels of shipping, from seller to middle person, middle person to me.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Sat, 24 April 2010, 20:39:22
Quote from: kishy;175642
Well...what do we reckon shipping (via cheapest possible service, assuming the German postal system is reliable?) would be to Ontario Canada?


Figure youself (http://www.dhl.de/en.html). DHL=German Post. No idea how much this keyboard weighs, but if it's under 2kg it would be surprisingly cheap: €13,90, without tracking though. With tracking, up to 5kg would be €35.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: kishy on Sat, 24 April 2010, 20:44:22
Basically I just want it so I can stick it to ripster that it is the same switches as my (now half desoldered) numpad. Also I do have a 68K Mac so...there's my other excuse.

:D

DHL is the postal service there? Hmmm.

I don't know how much it weighs so I used the up to 4KG option, and I'm seeing 95,90 EUR. Doesn't look too good.

Edit, ninja'd. Thanks webby :) Looks like it's still the same cost bracket though.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Sat, 24 April 2010, 20:47:35
€95 would be express shipment. Look under the parcel shipment tab.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: kishy on Sat, 24 April 2010, 20:55:20
Oh, whoops, I thought that was in-country only. Read again, I see it goes international too.

35 Euros now...not as bad, still a bit much (1 EUR is substantially more than 1 CAD I think? Edit: yeah it's coming to 47 CAD)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: ricercar on Sat, 24 April 2010, 21:09:38
Quote from: webwit;175649
you are part of an inner circle now


The first rule of Inner Circle is never type about Inner Circle.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Sat, 24 April 2010, 21:11:09
I'm not following Apple stuff closely, but I thought the adjustable was pretty common and cheap?
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: EverythingIBM on Sat, 24 April 2010, 21:55:59
Quote from: kishy;175571
GAH! WHY IS IT TO GERMANY ONLY?

Do these sellers actually have success doing this? Is the keyboard market in Germany big enough to support sellers not shipping internationally?


In munich, everyone buys everything.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Sun, 25 April 2010, 08:27:20
Went for €6.50. That's beyond Kishy's $5 limit anyway. ;P
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Sun, 25 April 2010, 14:34:54
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120558550695#ht_500wt_1182

Have a feeling this one went to Korea. I was on it for a few days, congrats on finding it as well. You win, out of my league :eek:
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Sun, 25 April 2010, 17:10:04
OMG - - - LOOOL
Was thinking about it, but sensed it would go over ten bucks and decided it wasn't worth that to me. Besides, I was pretty sure one of the early bids was Sixty's. Wonder how much of a difference the US layout makes for the price. I know I'm not the only one who has a couple German NIB G80-1000s stashed.

Until today, I thought this one (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250594627930&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) was completely insane.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Sun, 25 April 2010, 17:15:49
Quote from: Mental Hobbit;175928
OMG - - - LOOOL
Was thinking about it, but sensed it would go over ten bucks and decided it wasn't worth that to me. Besides, I was pretty sure one of the early bids was Sixty's. Wonder how much of a difference the US layout makes for the price. I know I'm not the only one who has a couple German NIB G80-1000s stashed.

Until today, I thought this one (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250594627930&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) was completely insane.


The vintage G80s with a US layout usually go for 150-300 EUR. This is the 3rd I've seen end over 150. A few months ago some US-Layout G80s with Cyrillic letters ended at 250 EUR each.
Title: Re: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: bsvP585hUO2Y6 on Mon, 26 April 2010, 01:13:25
webwit wrote on 6080 September 1993:

> The ergo keyboards in the back row suck - you have been warned.

I'm surprised to see the Marquardt on the same row as the Cherry.  I
thought everyone hated it for the linear switches, making it pretty much
a collector's item as well.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Wed, 05 May 2010, 09:25:19
Anybody into Apple boards (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180503388338&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)? I'm too lazy to look it up, but I think the bottom left one is not that common.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: kishy on Wed, 05 May 2010, 14:00:33
Oh so there IS a difference...

And when people say pink, they mean the salmon ones, right?

(presuming top left is salmon, as found in Apple M0116)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: kishy on Wed, 05 May 2010, 14:06:38
My brain...my brain...
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Wed, 05 May 2010, 17:53:35
Quote from: ripster;179265
I think the Taiwanese just like color.   There is LITTLE relationship to switch feel.  

From my (blessedly) limited experience with Alps switches, there is a simple relationship: Virgin-ass white ones feel nice. As soon as pigment comes into play, they feel like sandpaper. (But that's probably only because I haven't seen simplified white ones yet.)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Wed, 05 May 2010, 18:06:52
I like Pedobear. He's so much cuter than catholic priests.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Thu, 03 June 2010, 15:52:02
http://cgi.ebay.de/CHERRY-G80-2100HDD-01-/230480312395?cmd=ViewItem&pt=M%C3%A4use_Tastaturen&hash=item35a9b2784b

cherry key alert!
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Thu, 03 June 2010, 16:45:28
Hate you!
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: meltie on Fri, 04 June 2010, 03:51:43
Guys, this time stay out of my way please. I really want one of those. Even if it is not in a good condition.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Half-Saint on Fri, 04 June 2010, 05:44:36
OK! You don't have to worry about me :-)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: meltie on Fri, 04 June 2010, 06:06:31
Quote from: Half-Saint;189494
OK! You don't have to worry about me :-)


I am more worried about Mental Hobbit ...
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Fri, 04 June 2010, 08:15:10
Meltie,

I didn't bid in the last two auctions only in order to stay out of your way. You lost both, at rather low prices, at prices I would have gladly payed. Last time you announced here you were bidding "an insane amount". Iirc, it turned out that insane amount was the same that had already lost you the auction before. Frankly, I was pretty pissed.

I'm all for playing nice here and not outbidding fellow Geekhackers. But you can't expect me to watch board after board go to strangers until you may finally get one as cheap as you'd like.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: meltie on Sat, 05 June 2010, 03:22:06
I was just joking and didn't mean to attack you in any way. I should have put a smily behind my post, since it was only meant as a reference to previous exchange we had in this thread about this specific board, and didn't know that you were actually angry with me about the way the auctions before went.

I think it is very nice of you - and others - to stay out of the auctions other people announced they would go for. I wouldn't usually expect this from others who are interested in the same items, and a part of me is even surprised you really did. So thank you for that, even if I haven't won.

I didn't consider the prices for the other boards low, especially considering my budget. I am sorry if staying out of these auctions led you to not buying keyboards you otherwise would have. Since we obviously have a different opinion on what a high bid on a board like this is, I'd say from now on we both try and see who gets them in the end - probably you :-)

I really don't want to constrict somebody who might have a different opinion on prices and a higher budget than me. Like it seems to have happend in this case, we can only lose both. I'd really like to have one of these keyboards, but not as badly that I want to risk bad blood with one of my fellow geekhackers.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Findecanor on Sat, 05 June 2010, 09:40:58
There was a MX-3000M (older G80-3000 with either clear or blue MX switches, if I understand correctly) on eBay this week that got only one bid, the initial price of 1 €.
The auction was listed for Germany only/money order, but I had asked the seller and got an OK for Sweden/PayPal. I have done this a few times on eBay to get stuff from the US or Germany without any problems.
When I did eventually bid, though, within the last ten minutes, eBay blocked my bid because I did not have any address in Germany ... WTF!
Do sellers have to do anything special on eBay these days to allow "International" buyers?
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Sat, 05 June 2010, 17:27:52
Quote from: Findecanor;189897
There was a MX-3000M (older G80-3000 with either clear or blue MX switches, if I understand correctly) on eBay this week that got only one bid, the initial price of 1 €.
The auction was listed for Germany only/money order, but I had asked the seller and got an OK for Sweden/PayPal. I have done this a few times on eBay to get stuff from the US or Germany without any problems.
When I did eventually bid, though, within the last ten minutes, eBay blocked my bid because I did not have any address in Germany ... WTF!
Do sellers have to do anything special on eBay these days to allow "International" buyers?


It looks like if an auction is set strictly to not ship outside of a country, eBay will check for your registered account address. I had the same thing happen with something listed in Spain, for Spain only.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: kishy on Sat, 05 June 2010, 18:06:25
Quote from: sixty;189989
It looks like if an auction is set strictly to not ship outside of a country, eBay will check for your registered account address. I had the same thing happen with something listed in Spain, for Spain only.


Yeah, if a listing is set only to go to certain destinations, it will refuse to let you bid or BIN. Recently ran into this with a 99 cent bid item, talked to seller and he agreed to ship to Canada (from USA) but didn't update the listing at the same time so it rejected my bid.

He made the change and it let me bid.

Little did I know, it was a tape drive controller card instead of a floppy drive controller card :(
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 05 June 2010, 18:23:54
Floppy drive controller cards... very hard to find one that isn't an 8 bit ISA one for an XT. Which is problematic given that motherboards are slowly dropping floppy support.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: kishy on Sat, 05 June 2010, 18:33:39
Quote from: ch_123;190003
Floppy drive controller cards... very hard to find one that isn't an 8 bit ISA one for an XT. Which is problematic given that motherboards are slowly dropping floppy support.


Funny you should say that, since that's what I was trying to buy.

8-bit ISA with a BIOS extension ROM supporting high density drives are very hard to find at any kind of reasonable cost.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Sun, 06 June 2010, 09:40:11
Congrats to Meltie. Finally. ;P
And I wasn't being nice this time, I just came home five minutes too late. :mmph:
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: JBert on Sun, 06 June 2010, 14:19:46
Quote from: Findecanor;189897
There was a MX-3000M (older G80-3000 with either clear or blue MX switches, if I understand correctly) on eBay this week that got only one bid, the initial price of 1 €.
The auction was listed for Germany only/money order, but I had asked the seller and got an OK for Sweden/PayPal. I have done this a few times on eBay to get stuff from the US or Germany without any problems.
When I did eventually bid, though, within the last ten minutes, eBay blocked my bid because I did not have any address in Germany ... WTF!
Do sellers have to do anything special on eBay these days to allow "International" buyers?
Normally it will stop you from bidding on an item which is not set to ship to your address.
I have found such listings and asked the seller to do something about it. Ebay actually has support for odd cases like these and allows the seller to add certain buyers to an "exclude from shipping-check" list. The seller might have extra conditions though, like not accepting any offers and pointing you to the Buy It Now price instead.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: meltie on Mon, 07 June 2010, 04:34:56
Quote from: Mental Hobbit;190182
Congrats to Meltie. Finally. ;P
And I wasn't being nice this time, I just came home five minutes too late. :mmph:


Thank you. I hope the problems are not big and I can make it work properly.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Sun, 24 October 2010, 15:08:56
Time to revive this thread.

Anyone remember this?
Quote from: Mental Hobbit;168044
Did anybody here get this one (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190383105607&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)? Seller insists it's a G80-3000HGD (I asked twice), but I've never heard of G type switches. Wasn't willing to pay much for another beaten up Cherry only to solve that riddle though.

Quote from: sixty;168368
I believe I had a HGD board before and it was black MX. I could be wrong though, I have gone through way too many G80s.

If all goes well, we'll see soon enough. There has to be some difference to warrant using a different letter. I hope it's something more than just a different cable or somesuch.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Sun, 24 October 2010, 15:25:26
Quote from: keyb_gr;238122
Time to revive this thread.

Anyone remember this?


If all goes well, we'll see soon enough. There has to be some difference to warrant using a different letter. I hope it's something more than just a different cable or somesuch.


Looking forward to see what you get. I actually got a G81-3000 with a proper G80 inside. The FCC id and model number also match a G80. Cherry can not be trusted either.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: VentiLator on Sun, 24 October 2010, 16:39:57
nice thread.

a G80-LPMDE: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260678982063&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260678692214&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: bilbo3000 on Mon, 25 October 2010, 09:39:09
A Cherry SPOS. Does anybody know what kind of switches these have:
Cherry SPOS on the bay (http://cgi.ebay.de/tastatur-cherry-spos-/190458631349?pt=M%C3%A4use_Tastaturen&hash=item2c583814b5)

and:Cherry G80-1502 with card reader (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160496111112&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 25 October 2010, 09:40:10
That's the rubber dome version.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: VentiLator on Mon, 25 October 2010, 10:06:49
imo they are still cool, i once read about a os-project where they tried to log-in into a gnome desktop using cards instead of a password/fingerprint.

boring keyboard but that sticker/label looks cool :D http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250713384738&_trksid=e11010.m204&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D8&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:DE:1348

also boring but interesting color:
http://cgi.ebay.de/PC-Tastatur-PS-2-Cherry-RS-6000M_W0QQitemZ260677082429QQcategoryZ162495QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3907.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DSIC%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%252BDDSIC%26otn%3D20%26pmod%3D230539525173%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D4738124981496278400
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Mon, 25 October 2010, 11:57:22
Quote from: VentiLator;238144
a G80-LPMDE: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260678982063&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

That one might be worth picking up for its case and keys.
Quote from: VentiLator;238144
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260678692214&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

That's a G81-3000 which is missing its label. These old ones are better built than the current ones, with proper ribbon cable connectors. Hard to see whether it's a HAD or SAD, might be worth having for keycaps either way.
Quote from: VentiLator;238408
boring keyboard but that sticker/label looks cool :D http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250713384738&_trksid=e11010.m204&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D8&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:DE:1348

That's one fancy lasered label.
Quote from: VentiLator;238408
also boring but interesting color:
http://cgi.ebay.de/PC-Tastatur-PS-2-Cherry-RS-6000M_W0QQitemZ260677082429QQcategoryZ162495QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3907.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DSIC%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%252BDDSIC%26otn%3D20%26pmod%3D230539525173%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D4738124981496278400

Kinda looks like a Unicomp in black/metallic design.

"Boring" is a pretty accurate description for the current offers on the 'bay, btw. I guess everyone is watching the two explicitly "clicky" boards, too (one FK2001 with roof and a Monterey K-104).
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: 7bit on Mon, 25 October 2010, 12:38:37
Quote from: bilbo3000;238394
A Cherry SPOS. Does anybody know what kind of switches these have:
Cherry SPOS on the bay (http://cgi.ebay.de/tastatur-cherry-spos-/190458631349?pt=M%C3%A4use_Tastaturen&hash=item2c583814b5)

Rrrrubbbbber.

The G86-boards are not worth the shipping costs. I tried a G86 once and went straight to the G80-3000 I'm currently typing on. The keycaps are too large, which causes a lot of typos. You will more often hit 2 keys at once.

The only pro is that they are beer-spill resistant ;-)

Go for the G80-1502 instead.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: VentiLator on Mon, 25 October 2010, 13:18:07
aaah, crap. admit it, you were all after this one: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=230539990070&Category=162495&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26its%3DI%26otn%3D2&autorefresh=true
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Mon, 25 October 2010, 13:21:55
Quote from: VentiLator;238493
aaah, crap. admit it, you were all after this one: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=230539990070&Category=162495&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26its%3DI%26otn%3D2&autorefresh=true


I have ~10 of these in EXTREMELY FILTHY (believe me, coming from me that means REALLY ****ING DIRTY) condition. If anyone wants one I'll get them from storage soon. I'll hand them out for shipping costs only!
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: VentiLator on Mon, 25 October 2010, 13:24:45
huh? not any good? (i know, switches suck) but these extra keys...? NIB the go for 130, dont they?
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Mon, 25 October 2010, 13:31:56
Quote from: VentiLator;238503
huh? not any good? (i know, switches suck) but these extra keys...? NIB the go for 130, dont they?

Basically the same thing as a G80-2100 with a fancy LED display and 9 layers to program. The MY switches instantly make these boards a no go for me though. Ironically the extra switches use black MX switches instead of MY switches:

(http://imgur.com/Fznhv.jpg)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Sat, 30 October 2010, 07:27:38
Got my G80-3000HGD today. It's a bog standard G80-3000 with blacks (of 1995 vintage in this case), so sixty was right. This one's somewhat yellowed, but it wasn't too dirty.
Title: Sad Cherry without key caps
Post by: 7bit on Mon, 01 November 2010, 14:52:02
Cherry Tastatur G81-3000SAD ohne Knöpfe (http://cgi.ebay.de/Cherry-Tastatur-G81-3000SAD-ohne-Knopfe-/170559981775?pt=Mäuse_Tastaturen&hash=item27b62ac8cf)

This keyboard really looks sad.

;-(
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Mon, 01 November 2010, 15:26:20
I don't get why he's even selling that one. The keycaps probably are the most valuable part.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Tue, 02 November 2010, 16:10:43
Here's one of those black ESCOMs that look almost like a Fujitsu Peerless but in fact are a plain rubber dome. (http://cgi.ebay.de/PC-Tastatur-/260686144488?pt=Mäuse_Tastaturen&hash=item3cb21ae3e8) Lettering seems to be pad printed, as it's partly worn off. With some better internals modded in, this could be quite nice.
Looks like a yellowed G81-1000SAD. (http://cgi.ebay.de/PC-Tastatur-DIN-Anschlus-Stecker-alte-rund-5-Stifte-/270574752319?pt=Mäuse_Tastaturen&hash=item3eff83123f) You don't see 1000 series boards so often.
Some Mtek/Monterey? (http://cgi.ebay.de/Computertastatur-P-S2-Anschlus-/300486171067?pt=Mäuse_Tastaturen&hash=item45f65f19bb) Could be one of their later semi-mechanicals, not sure. I wonder what the seller considers dirty if that's supposed to be cleaned.
Title: Did anybody get one of those 2 G80-1501HAD NIB?
Post by: 7bit on Sun, 07 November 2010, 09:26:55
They where offerd with a picture from KBDmania, which was a good reason for me not to believe its US-layout.

The did not respond to my e-mail asking for a photo of the real item.

G80-1501 HAD neu (http://cgi.ebay.de/Cherry-Arztpraxis-Tastatur-G80-1501-HAD-neu-/180583099833?pt=Mäuse_Tastaturen&hash=item2a0b976db9)

Did anyone of you buy one of them?

Would be intrested if I was right or if I missed something.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Sun, 07 November 2010, 13:45:12
Here's a rebranded Qtronix Scorpius 32 numpad in what appears to be extra big print (http://cgi.ebay.de/Zusatztastatur-Nummernblock-Ziffernblock-PULSEDATA-/120643742379?pt=Mäuse_Tastaturen&hash=item1c16ed6aab) - the guy only accepts Paypal and cash on pickup, otherwise I'd have considered buying it.

G80-1501HADs are interesting per se, NKRO and integrated LEDs, PBT doubleshots and all, but that kind of price is too rich for my blood. Not for a board with blacks. In order to be of practical use, it would have to be modded first.
Title: Cherry Football
Post by: 7bit on Sun, 07 November 2010, 14:00:27
The ultimate must-have for any Cherry collector:
Cherry Fussball (http://cgi.ebay.de/Cherry-DERBYSTAR-Fussball-Werbung-/300490479074?pt=Mäuse_Tastaturen&hash=item45f6a0d5e2)!!!

Quote from: keyb_gr;243871

G80-1501HADs are interesting per se, NKRO and integrated LEDs, PBT doubleshots and all, but that kind of price is too rich for my blood. Not for a board with blacks. In order to be of practical use, it would have to be modded first.


I would have taken both if I had known that they are US-layout as in the (kbdmania) picture. A normal Cherry G80-3000 NIB costs 63 EUR plus shipping. So the price would have been OK.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: sixty on Mon, 08 November 2010, 00:48:51
Quote from: 7bit;243887
The ultimate must-have for any Cherry collector:
Cherry Fussball (http://cgi.ebay.de/Cherry-DERBYSTAR-Fussball-Werbung-/300490479074?pt=Mäuse_Tastaturen&hash=item45f6a0d5e2)!!!



I would have taken both if I had known that they are US-layout as in the (kbdmania) picture. A normal Cherry G80-3000 NIB costs 63 EUR plus shipping. So the price would have been OK.

THERE ARE NO G80-150x series boards in US LAYOUT.

I contacted Cherry about this before, they do not exist. The one on the pic is from a mod. So don't feel bad about missing out.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: keyb_gr on Mon, 08 November 2010, 15:35:31
Quote from: sixty;244112
THERE ARE NO G80-150x series boards in US LAYOUT.

As to be expected for boards designed to read German health insurance cards, actually. A model with a HAD suffix would definitely come in German layout, too.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: 7bit on Mon, 13 December 2010, 13:00:02
Here are some Cherry keyboards that might be of interest:

7 keyboards (http://cgi.ebay.de/7x-Tastatur-SET-Cherry-PS2-DIN-Anschlus-Windows-Toshiba-/400178342934?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item5d2c7cec16)

I guess the Mitsumi-board is the one down in the box.

Cherry G80 or G81? (http://cgi.ebay.de/Tastatur-Raritat-/170578240930?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item27b74165a2) At least double shots, but in DE-layout:-(
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: J888www on Mon, 13 December 2010, 13:33:36
Much interesting threads, but there are two major problems.

1) Most of the keyboards are German layout.

2) Nearly all the listings only Ship Deutschland.
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: Zen on Mon, 13 December 2010, 13:45:11
1:
Uhm... Yes .....
Quote
[.de] A few Cherry finds
The '.de' kinda tells it all ...
German layout is great for all us non-English speaking Europeans as it is much
closer to what we need than US/UK layout is, nearly all the special characters and symbols are placed right ..
And you CAN learn to live with that qwertz-nonsense :)  
2:
Try asking the seller.
The last six months I've only met one seller who didn't
want to ship outside of Germany ..
I don't quite get what it is with them Germans on eBay, many don't have paypal either ?

7 Tastaturen  - CHERRY - PS/2 und DIN XT AT
There's a Peacock G83-3004 SAD/00, the rest don't matter ..
http://cgi.ebay.de/7-Tastaturen-Tastatur-CHERRY-PS-2-DIN-XT-AT-/170578823208?pt=M
%C3%A4use_Tastaturen&hash=item27b74a4828 (http://cgi.ebay.de/7-Tastaturen-Tastatur-CHERRY-PS-2-DIN-XT-AT-/170578823208?pt=M%C3%A4use_Tastaturen&
hash=item27b74a4828)
Title: [.de] A few Cherry finds
Post by: J888www on Mon, 13 December 2010, 13:49:13
TYVM for the info, if/when I find a "want" I shall contact the seller.

I'm ATM trying to find some MX Clears (like Sixty's).