I've been eyeing up this board when I saw it on MD. I need a 60% board that I can put my complicated blues in and use my original doubleshot ANSI winkeyless caps on, but I'm not sure that this is the board for that. I am certainly interested in trying out the Matias dampened switches, but caps will be tougher to find for the V60 (would have to get a Dell AT101W) and stabilizers might be a pain.
Last thing is a V80MTS tenkeyless: if you want one express your interest at: kbp@kbp.com.tw
Send it attention to Daniel.
The V80 is doable but the fans have got to ask for it!
That's good to hear that they are finally talking about possibly doing the V80 MTS.
When I asked a few months ago if they would be doing a TKL with matias switches Daniel wouldn't even give me a "maybe" answer.
I really hope TaoHao can do the caps. I would love to have a set of their Olivetti for my V60 MTS.
I have it. I like it: it allows me to enjoy the mechanical feel in school without annoying everyone around me. Any specific questions you have about the keyboard or the switches?
Matias quiet linear switch.
Matias quiet linear switch.
Are these dampened linear?
Edit: yes.
I got the sample yesterday, compared the keycaps with ours and noticed some differences such as height of the keys. Stem spacing seems alright, our keys can be installed and removed smoothly. Since some keys are with special dimensions and I do not have samples with me, I sent the keyboard sample back to our factory and asked our Production Manager to find out all available key samples for my test.
So later this week, maybe tomorrow or Friday I may get full set of the key samples. I will get back to you with all details then.
Just got an e-mail from Tao Hao regarding keycaps for the V60MTS:Quote from: TaoHaoI got the sample yesterday, compared the keycaps with ours and noticed some differences such as height of the keys. Stem spacing seems alright, our keys can be installed and removed smoothly. Since some keys are with special dimensions and I do not have samples with me, I sent the keyboard sample back to our factory and asked our Production Manager to find out all available key samples for my test.
So later this week, maybe tomorrow or Friday I may get full set of the key samples. I will get back to you with all details then.
Hopefully Matias will make a non-dampened version. Complicated linear green alps are not dampened and they are smooth as butter. Plus, the shorter throw is awesome for gaming.Matias quiet linear switch.
Are these dampened linear?
Edit: yes.
I wonder if these are the linear switches that matias mentioned, or if there will be a non-dampened version also?
Non-dampened is easy to make: just get a click switch and a quiet linear switch, and swap the leaf springs. Result: dampened clicky switch (with a red slider) + undampened linear switch (white slider).
I think the frankensteined dampened click switches are great; I’m sure you can find someone willing to buy them.
non-dampened linear = great white buffaloCan you explain? Non-dampened linear switches seem pretty common...
non-dampened linear = great white buffaloCan you explain? Non-dampened linear switches seem pretty common...
I have two V60MTS, but now I am lazy to take pictures for my keyboards.What is the short white spacebar?
Here is my friend's blog, this one is my v60 MTS shown in keyboard party of KBtalKing.Show Image(http://mesak.tw/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/kbt2014_24.jpg)
non-dampened linear = great white buffalo
Specifically the Matias/Alps style switches. I had an old Dell AT101W that was essentially linear, and to this day it's still the best feeling board I've used.
non-dampened linear = great white buffaloSpecifically the Matias/Alps style switches. I had an old Dell AT101W that was essentially linear, and to this day it's still the best feeling board I've used.
Why don’t you get a keyboard with green or yellow Alps switches?
What type of stabilizers do the large keys have?They’re Alps-style stabilizers on most of the stabilized keys. I didn’t check the spacebars, but my guess is MX/Costar-style on the spacebars (that’s what Matias’s keyboards do).
What type of stabilizers do the large keys have?They’re Alps-style stabilizers on most of the stabilized keys. I didn’t check the spacebars, but my guess is MX/Costar-style on the spacebars (that’s what Matias’s keyboards do).
The only downside thus far is that it is difficult to find keycaps for Matias switches, especially for the stabilized keys and spacebar. It would be great if a company such as SP could be persuaded to produce keycap sets. I would especially like to see high profile (OEM or similar) dye-sublimated PBT or perhaps double-shot ABS sets, including modifiers and spacebars.
I received my V60 Matias Quiet Click Mini Keyboard from Massdrop. The only downside thus far is that it is difficult to find keycaps for Matias switches, especially for the stabilized keys and spacebar. It would be great if a company such as SP could be persuaded to produce keycap sets. I would especially like to see high profile (OEM or similar) dye-sublimated PBT or perhaps double-shot ABS sets, including modifiers and spacebars.Signature Plastics doesn’t have the molds to make keycaps which take Alps-style stabilizer inserts. If you want new double-shot ABS caps, there’s Tai Hao, but MOQ is quite high.
I received my V60 Matias Quiet Click Mini Keyboard from Massdrop. This is the first keyboard I have owned with Matias switches, although I have briefly tried Matias Tactile Click switches in a Mini Tactile Pro that belongs to a colleague. I like the Matias Quiet switches better than any of the Cherry mx switches (including red, black, brown, clear, blue, and green), but not as well as IBM Model F or Topre switches. Now I would like to try the V60 with Matias Click switches for comparison.
Overall, I like the V60. The 60% size is my favorite form factor, and I was pleased to discover that it was possible to use a combination of DIP switches and Karabiner software for the Mac to remap the V60 to a Mac/HHKB layout.
The only downside thus far is that it is difficult to find keycaps for Matias switches, especially for the stabilized keys and spacebar. It would be great if a company such as SP could be persuaded to produce keycap sets. I would especially like to see high profile (OEM or similar) dye-sublimated PBT or perhaps double-shot ABS sets, including modifiers and spacebars.
Don't forget about the V60MTS w/ Dampened Linear Alps coming in a few months!
I just updated the OP w/ additional photos in this thread. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=66609.0)
Hopefully by Mid January we can get a group buy open for Tao Hao Alps.
I just updated the OP w/ additional photos in this thread. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=66609.0)
Hopefully by Mid January we can get a group buy open for Tao Hao Alps.
Tempting... Any chances for pad-printed Cyrillic letters on them?
If you shop around on eBay, you can find keyboards with Alps-mount switches, and some of these will have Cyrillic characters on the keycaps. I saw one recently from Bulgaria, but it didn't use the standard Cyrillic layout that I am more accustomed to.
Compared to Blues and Clears how silent are the Matias', because I know they have a sharper tactile click than even blues.They’re much quieter than stock MX switches because they have little rubber dampers in them that prevent plastic-on-plastic collisions.
I might have to invest in a board then, because I love the tactile click but the sound is awful.Compared to Blues and Clears how silent are the Matias', because I know they have a sharper tactile click than even blues.They’re much quieter than stock MX switches because they have little rubber dampers in them that prevent plastic-on-plastic collisions.
Similar concept to silenced Topre switches.