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Title: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: dante on Fri, 05 December 2014, 08:42:32
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Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: Lurch on Fri, 05 December 2014, 08:44:35
the crusty part from the bottom of the pot
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: billnye on Fri, 05 December 2014, 08:45:11
I get brown rice on my burritos at Chipotle
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 05 December 2014, 08:46:46
I like steamed- sweet rice..

Also..  I've successfully made coconut sweet rice, by soaking overnight, then steaming..
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: evolveS on Fri, 05 December 2014, 08:51:10
Kokuho rose /thread
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 05 December 2014, 08:56:58
Kokuho rose /thread

what's so special about it ?
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: Findecanor on Fri, 05 December 2014, 09:01:21
I like Basmati rice. Low GI. I like Indian food.

In Christmas I want rice porridge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rice_pudding#Nordic_countries), served with milk, cinnamon and sugar. It is not really a pudding - no eggs, not baked.
A nice pudding is "saffranspannkaka" (saffron pancake): made from porridge, saffron, sugar, chopped almonds and egg and baked in the oven. Served with jam.
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: dante on Fri, 05 December 2014, 09:03:33
I like Basmati rice.

Is there a particular brand of Basmati you recommend?  I've been eating Lundberg Brown rice for a while now.  I thought about trying their White Basmati but keep reading reviews that it tastes nothing like "true Basmati."
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: osi on Fri, 05 December 2014, 09:05:16
arroz con gandules
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: evolveS on Fri, 05 December 2014, 09:05:32
Kokuho rose /thread

what's so special about it ?

For me it tastes the best and is the most consistent of all the sticky rice I've ever had.
Northern wild rice is also pretty nice in the cold months.

itt: whatever people grew up with
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: Moralless on Fri, 05 December 2014, 09:07:21
I'm not really sure what sort of rice they put in sushi/sashimi but I could eat bowls of that without anything else.
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Fri, 05 December 2014, 09:11:20
Pork fried.

Brown is p good too, with the proper seasonings. Actually, any rice for that matter...
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: iri on Fri, 05 December 2014, 09:13:26
Red rice from the province of Krasnodar.
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: JPG on Fri, 05 December 2014, 09:21:09
The best plain rice I tried so far is jasmine rice from the Clic brand. At least it's the best I found and tried that is available to me.


The best rice I ever tried was cooked by a Cuban family in Cuba. It had black beans in it and it just tasted awesome.
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: dustinhxc on Fri, 05 December 2014, 09:21:49
Jasmine! For sure!
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 05 December 2014, 09:56:56
I'm not really sure what sort of rice they put in sushi/sashimi but I could eat bowls of that without anything else.

LOL..  sushi rice is sweet/sticky rice.. 

but, the iconic sushi rice taste actually comes from the seasoning..  sushi vinegar and some MSG or MSG equivalent..

preperation of the rice creates the texture,, but it can be achieved from any sweet rice..

Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 05 December 2014, 10:20:52
Ulikan Red, Jasmine, Basmati, Koshihikari, Bomba.
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: _PixelNinja on Fri, 05 December 2014, 10:26:54
LOL..  sushi rice is sweet/sticky rice.. 

but, the iconic sushi rice taste actually comes from the seasoning..  sushi vinegar and some MSG or MSG equivalent..

preperation of the rice creates the texture,, but it can be achieved from any sweet rice..
Sushi-meshi is a combination of short grain japonica rice with sushi-zu, which made of rice vinegar, salt and sugar. There is no MSG in proper sushi-meshi. You will not obtain the correct texture with other types of rice.
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: Battou62 on Fri, 05 December 2014, 10:27:15
Basmati, followed by Jasmine.
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 05 December 2014, 11:02:42
LOL..  sushi rice is sweet/sticky rice.. 

but, the iconic sushi rice taste actually comes from the seasoning..  sushi vinegar and some MSG or MSG equivalent..

preperation of the rice creates the texture,, but it can be achieved from any sweet rice..
Sushi-meshi is a combination of short grain japonica rice with sushi-zu, which made of rice vinegar, salt and sugar. There is no MSG in proper sushi-meshi. You will not obtain the correct texture with other types of rice.

It may be true that there is a "defacto-sushi-rice-prescription"   However .. growing up Sifo, the collective Sifo experience tells me that it's all the same ****..

To an outsider,  it's all keyboards right?   but to us, it's cherry, it's topre, it's buckling, it's ergonomic, it's this, it's that..


THE TRUTH?   the outsiders are RIGHT...   why is that... because our hobby is a tangent that greatly pursues irrelevance detached from the primary function..


The same is true about any RICE- connoisseur.. 
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 05 December 2014, 11:54:38
MOTHER****ING HOMESTYLE STICKY SUSHI RICE

GET THAT NICE IMPORTED JAPANESE MEDIUM GRAIN DEHUSKED WHITE RICE, NONE OF THAT BLEACHED ****

COOK THAT **** IN MY RICE COOKER FOR HOWEVER LONG IT TAKES TO MAKE IT SOFT AND FLUFFY AS ****

DROP SOME WHITE WINE VINEGAR IN THERE, TO TASTE, I USUALLY ADD A TABLESPOON

MIX THAT **** UP TO MAKE IT EVEN FLUFFIER

EAT THAT **** WITH SOMETHING HEAVILY SEASONED, LIKE CURRY

DON'T YOU ****ING DARE PUT SOY SAUCE IN IT
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 05 December 2014, 13:30:54
Basmati for me, since it's what I;ve been eating since I can remember.
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: BlueNalgene on Fri, 05 December 2014, 13:34:51
I like Basmati rice.

Is there a particular brand of Basmati you recommend?  I've been eating Lundberg Brown rice for a while now.  I thought about trying their White Basmati but keep reading reviews that it tastes nothing like "true Basmati."

Basmati fan; I've been happy with Royal Brand, because it is the only one available in stores where I live.
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 05 December 2014, 13:40:59
I don't care what brands I buy, I only just check that it's actually from the correct growing region and not US. I don't like the US grown ones, they always seem to be devoid of the unique flavors a variety should have so I made it a point not to buy that anymore.
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 05 December 2014, 14:00:56
Mango sticky rice...
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: IPT on Fri, 05 December 2014, 14:05:58
nishiki brown rice
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: C5Allroad on Fri, 05 December 2014, 15:11:04
I like lots of rice.
Especially with soy sauce.
Hate this kind of rice though.
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/0kxR0eYPM5Q/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: noisyturtle on Fri, 05 December 2014, 15:51:27
Basmati rice is God-tier rice. All the taste of Jasmine, with 1/25 of the sugar and half the calories!
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: radio_killah on Fri, 05 December 2014, 16:01:15
Jasmine  :thumb:
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 05 December 2014, 16:22:49
I like lots of rice.
Especially with soy sauce.
Hate this kind of rice though.
Show Image
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/0kxR0eYPM5Q/maxresdefault.jpg)


But everyone rices out their civic.. they're meant to be riced... (http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/embarrassed2-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862502)
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: compgeke on Fri, 05 December 2014, 16:23:43
I quite like Honda. It's getting hard to find a 90s one that isn't rice now.
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: Novus on Fri, 05 December 2014, 17:17:12
Ray Rice
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: noisyturtle on Fri, 05 December 2014, 17:40:05
Ray Rice

"Rice So Good, You'll Smack A *****!"
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 05 December 2014, 18:45:52
Sooooo... I just pieced this together real quick..

It should theoretically allow you to achieve PERFECT hydration levels.. between 58% and 64%


r : weight of rice (g)
s : % moisture level of uncooked rice
p : % final hydration level, ideally between (0.58 and 0.64)
w : volume of additional water (g or ml)


(w+rs)/(r+w) = p


Hard part..   finding -s-

TO FIND the moisture level of uncooked rice..

1. Weigh your rice,
2. Heat it dry in a pan
3. Weigh it again


Do 2 to 3 trials..  you shouldn't need too much rice..

If anyone has any ideas to improve this..   please chime in..

(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/cool-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862496)
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: Novus on Fri, 05 December 2014, 18:51:57
I just use the finger rule
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 05 December 2014, 18:55:40
I just use the finger rule

that's for scrubs...   I too used the finger rule.. until just now because this thread has made me think deeply about rice..

(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/cute2-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862498)
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: Evo_Spec on Fri, 05 December 2014, 19:40:52
Since moving to Japan i've tried a bunch of different kinds of rice like Koshihikari, kinuhikari, hitomebore and probably a few others that i don't remember. but to be honest i really don't taste a difference in any of them and i just prefer the texture of the good ol long grain rooster brand Jasmine rice i was raised on.
(http://static.parastorage.com/media/3be1da_5737f659a3d3434494d4b932066fe53d.jpg_256)
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: cephelix on Fri, 05 December 2014, 20:03:06
Brown, Basmati and whatever they make sushi with......
i want sushi now.......... :-X
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: munch on Fri, 05 December 2014, 20:06:15
for just plain rice, I like the kokuho rose a lot.
but like... tastiest thing you can do with rice, is probably:
melt some butter in a pan, add bay leaf and saffron for a short while, then add rice, chicken stock, cook as you'd normally do...
and when done, let it  crisp up a little bit, the butter is gonna make it awesome, then add some more butter and melt it into the rice.
smells so so nice and tastes awesome. plus it's yellow!
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: noisyturtle on Fri, 05 December 2014, 20:07:47
I just use the finger rule

that's for scrubs...   I too used the finger rule.. until just now because this thread has made me think deeply about rice..

Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/cute2-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862498)


Or just toss it in a rice maker and it'll shut off automatically! No muss with timers.
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 05 December 2014, 20:25:55
I just use the finger rule

that's for scrubs...   I too used the finger rule.. until just now because this thread has made me think deeply about rice..

Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/cute2-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862498)


Or just toss it in a rice maker and it'll shut off automatically! No muss with timers.



I'm talking about finding the perfect hydration level..

The rice cooker, even with the fuzzy logic, still just attempt to keep the temperature @ or slightly below 100C..

That's all that the logic does.. it's a fancy temperature sensor..

it doesn't know jack about hydration level....   THIS is dependent on the user..  and that's the component we're working on here.
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: smknjoe on Fri, 05 December 2014, 20:57:06
Top shelf, organic, free range, artisanal.
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: Novus on Fri, 05 December 2014, 20:58:53
We all know real rice is bottom shelf, because it's too heavy  :))
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: Moralless on Fri, 05 December 2014, 21:18:31
Sooooo... I just pieced this together real quick..

It should theoretically allow you to achieve PERFECT hydration levels.. between 58% and 64%


r : weight of rice (g)
s : % moisture level of uncooked rice
p : % final hydration level, ideally between (0.58 and 0.64)
w : volume of additional water (g or ml)


(w+rs)/(r+w) = p


Hard part..   finding -s-

TO FIND the moisture level of uncooked rice..

1. Weigh your rice,
2. Heat it dry in a pan
3. Weigh it again


Do 2 to 3 trials..  you shouldn't need too much rice..

If anyone has any ideas to improve this..   please chime in..

Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/cool-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862496)


First of all, where did you find this formula?. And also I don't know much about rice.

Also all my working below assumes the following:
-s and p is relative to the weight of the rice i.e if s = 0.5 then a 1g grain of rice would be made of 0.5g of water

Anyways, why would anyone ever need to find 's'? If the point of that formula was to achieve the perfect hydration level 'p' then you wouldn't need to find 's' using that methodology as you would already know 'p' (which would be your desired hydration levels perfect for you, seeing as it ranges from 58%-64% so you'd be the one choosing this value as it's not a constant). Since you know 3/4 variables in that equation then you can just solve for 's' without having to weight it, heat it and weigh it again.

And lastly, from personal experience the the amount of water in uncooked rice (the ones you get from the store) is already low enough to begin with that it would practically be 0% . This means that s ≈ 0, close enough that we can treat it as 0 which means that 'rs' = 0 making the equation be (w)/(r + w) or (w/r) +1 = p which would make 'p' > 1 making it much larger than the perfect hydration values you stated. Doing a thought experiment, I were to buy uncooked rice dry it for a few days (such that s=0) and add no additional water to it I would somehow get 'p' with a value of 1 (0/r + 1 = p)
which doesn't add up since in this thought experiment I made the rice have no water in it at all and somehow it comes out as being totally made out of water.

TL;DR the finger rule is supreme  :p
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: C5Allroad on Fri, 05 December 2014, 22:09:30
I quite like Honda. It's getting hard to find a 90s one that isn't rice now.
Hard to find an untouched one. Lol
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: Evo_Spec on Fri, 05 December 2014, 22:24:40
Out of curiosity, has anyone had the experience of eating rice out of these super expensive rice cookers? (http://www.ksdenki.com/ec/app/catalog/list/init?searchCategoryCode=0302&mode=image&pageSize=15&currentPage=1&alignmentSequence=3) (they're like ~$1,300)
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 05 December 2014, 22:44:08
Sooooo... I just pieced this together real quick..

It should theoretically allow you to achieve PERFECT hydration levels.. between 58% and 64%


r : weight of rice (g)
s : % moisture level of uncooked rice
p : % final hydration level, ideally between (0.58 and 0.64)
w : volume of additional water (g or ml)


(w+rs)/(r+w) = p


Hard part..   finding -s-

TO FIND the moisture level of uncooked rice..

1. Weigh your rice,
2. Heat it dry in a pan
3. Weigh it again


Do 2 to 3 trials..  you shouldn't need too much rice..

If anyone has any ideas to improve this..   please chime in..

Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/cool-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862496)


First of all, where did you find this formula?. And also I don't know much about rice.

Also all my working below assumes the following:
-s and p is relative to the weight of the rice i.e if s = 0.5 then a 1g grain of rice would be made of 0.5g of water

Anyways, why would anyone ever need to find 's'? If the point of that formula was to achieve the perfect hydration level 'p' then you wouldn't need to find 's' using that methodology as you would already know 'p' (which would be your desired hydration levels perfect for you, seeing as it ranges from 58%-64% so you'd be the one choosing this value as it's not a constant). Since you know 3/4 variables in that equation then you can just solve for 's' without having to weight it, heat it and weigh it again.

And lastly, from personal experience the the amount of water in uncooked rice (the ones you get from the store) is already low enough to begin with that it would practically be 0% . This means that s ≈ 0, close enough that we can treat it as 0 which means that 'rs' = 0 making the equation be (w)/(r + w) or (w/r) +1 = p which would make 'p' > 1 making it much larger than the perfect hydration values you stated. Doing a thought experiment, I were to buy uncooked rice dry it for a few days (such that s=0) and add no additional water to it I would somehow get 'p' with a value of 1 (0/r + 1 = p)
which doesn't add up since in this thought experiment I made the rice have no water in it at all and somehow it comes out as being totally made out of water.

TL;DR the finger rule is supreme  :p

Ok.. ah...

I didn't find the equation anywhere,  it's just algebra,

you need to find -s-  because it's a given.. hydration level of rice sold at the store is usually around 12%.. NOT - 0% ...  but storage time in bag, open storage time, time at home,  will influence that number..

Which is why you want to find -s-..   that's the only way to control perfect hydration..

-p- allows you to decide where between 0.58 and 0.64 you want to be.. this is Preference..


So..  procedure is:

Explore and find -s- on the stove or in an oven.

Select the -p- level of hydration you want..    (choice)

Select the amount of rice -r-  in grams

THEN plug into the equation to solve for  -w-  which comes out in milliliter or equivalently grams..


Hope this clears that up for you ... (http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/blocked-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862493)


Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: bowji on Fri, 05 December 2014, 23:12:35
Garlic Rice! tried it in the Philippines years ago and I still dream of them..
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: cephelix on Fri, 05 December 2014, 23:35:46
Garlic Rice! tried it in the Philippines years ago and I still dream of them..
there's garlic rice? sounds awesome..I'm gonna look it up.
Here in Singapore there's rice with raisins,sultanas and cashew nuts mixed in..... :thumb:
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: bowji on Sat, 06 December 2014, 03:36:01
Garlic Rice! tried it in the Philippines years ago and I still dream of them..
there's garlic rice? sounds awesome..I'm gonna look it up.
Here in Singapore there's rice with raisins,sultanas and cashew nuts mixed in..... :thumb:

Yup. They put small slices of fried garlic, not strong, a tint of garlic flavor to complement any other side dishes you are eating the rice with. Simply amazing...
Dried fruits and nuts in rice sounds yummy!  :eek:
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: MOZ on Sat, 06 December 2014, 04:25:32
Here in India we love our rice. One variant called the "Kashmiri Pulao" is cooked with tons of dried fruits like walnuts, cashews, raisins, almonds and pistachios along with fresh fruits as well such as pineapple, apple and pomegranate. There's saffron as well, and it's a sweet and salty rice dish. Oh god, I need to make some NOW!
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: cephelix on Sat, 06 December 2014, 05:12:34
Garlic Rice! tried it in the Philippines years ago and I still dream of them..
there's garlic rice? sounds awesome..I'm gonna look it up.
Here in Singapore there's rice with raisins,sultanas and cashew nuts mixed in..... :thumb:

Yup. They put small slices of fried garlic, not strong, a tint of garlic flavor to complement any other side dishes you are eating the rice with. Simply amazing...
Dried fruits and nuts in rice sounds yummy!  :eek:
It is...usually made for weddings....

Here in India we love our rice. One variant called the "Kashmiri Pulao" is cooked with tons of dried fruits like walnuts, cashews, raisins, almonds and pistachios along with fresh fruits as well such as pineapple, apple and pomegranate. There's saffron as well, and it's a sweet and salty rice dish. Oh god, I need to make some NOW!
Dude, make more for us!
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: dante on Sat, 06 December 2014, 08:51:45
Here in India we love our rice. One variant called the "Kashmiri Pulao" is cooked with tons of dried fruits like walnuts, cashews, raisins, almonds and pistachios along with fresh fruits as well such as pineapple, apple and pomegranate. There's saffron as well, and it's a sweet and salty rice dish. Oh god, I need to make some NOW!

Here in 'merica this sounds like a dessert.  I bet it would be awesome if it was made into a rice pudding!
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 06 December 2014, 11:27:36
for anyone that doesn't want to find -s-,  just assume it's 0.12

Market forces would push producers to keep moisture level there anyway.. so it's a fine assumption.

I tested 3 different types of rice in the house.. they all fall around 12%..

w = r(p-s)/(1-p)

w = r(p-0.12)/(1-p)

r : weight of rice (g)
s : % moisture level of uncooked rice (may assume 0.12)
p : % final hydration level, ideally between (0.58 and 0.64)
w : volume of additional water (g or ml)
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: berserkfan on Sat, 06 December 2014, 11:30:26
I avoid eating rice if I can.
Title: Re: RICE RICE BABY! ......................... (what's your favorite rice?)
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 06 December 2014, 11:40:23
I avoid eating rice if I can.

You don't have to do this..

as long as you're not stuffing yourself full of it..

Rice is very easy to overeat, especially when people season it with oils and spices..

Overeating is the issue... not the rice itself..


rice has plenty of good vitamins and minerals..