The ES-87 looks great, not very Apple-esque but businesslike and respectable. Again, not sure if I could find it new in my country (and it's not widespread on the used market).
I use Mac pro with stand at work, though I love all my keyboards collection, they just won't fit in Apple lifeWhich keyboards are in your collection? What does “won’t fit” mean?
I've been using all sorts of keyboards with my Mac, and the only one I had problems with was the Model M, as it has no key equivalent to Option.Alt?
I've been using all sorts of keyboards with my Mac, and the only one I had problems with was the Model M, as it has no key equivalent to Option.Alt?
I've been using all sorts of keyboards with my Mac, and the only one I had problems with was the Model M, as it has no key equivalent to Option.I used a 101-key Model M on a Mac for at least 5 years. Caps Lock -> Control, Control -> Option, Alt -> Command
I've been using all sorts of keyboards with my Mac, and the only one I had problems with was the Model M, as it has no key equivalent to Option.I used a 101-key Model M on a Mac for at least 5 years. Caps Lock -> Control, Control -> Option, Alt -> Command
I use Mac pro with stand at work, though I love all my keyboards collection, they just won't fit in Apple lifeWhich keyboards are in your collection? What does “won’t fit” mean?
Technically, they should all work just fine. In the OS X preferences you can swap the behavior or the caps lock, control, alt/option, and command/windows keys, to get a consistent experience across different keyboards, if you need. Or if you need more substantial remapping, there are several ways to handle it.
Or do you just need the keycap legends (“command”, “option”, etc.) to match the key function? In that case, I’d recommend just swapping out the handful of relevant keycaps, as a slightly easier alternative to buying a new keyboard.
Currently I'm using a Filco tkl for my Mac, and it does work fine. The thing is it changed my typing behaviour completely. I found that when using the mac pro keyboard I can do all the task fluently for example Screenshot, etc. And to do the same task I'm faced with different layout to press when using my filcoSo I’m assuming that you use the key labeled “alt” for option, the windows key for “command”, etc.?
And then change again when I'm home since I use Windows...Easy solution: stop using Windows at home. ;)
Thx for the tips! Definitely gonna try it as soon as I'm backCurrently I'm using a Filco tkl for my Mac, and it does work fine. The thing is it changed my typing behaviour completely. I found that when using the mac pro keyboard I can do all the task fluently for example Screenshot, etc. And to do the same task I'm faced with different layout to press when using my filcoSo I’m assuming that you use the key labeled “alt” for option, the windows key for “command”, etc.?
Well, the answer is: don’t do that!
If you go to the “keyboard” section of the system preferences, you can swap these however you prefer. For instance, on the built-in keyboard I typically switch caps lock and control:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/P2XOqKp.png)
Whereas on an external keyboard designed for a Windows machine (like your Filco), I’d also switch command and option.QuoteAnd then change again when I'm home since I use Windows...Easy solution: stop using Windows at home. ;)
The Matias keyboard arrived. The keys are certainly quiet and a lot less clicky than I'm used to (I guess I've been spoilt by Model F and Monterey blues!). But should be a big improvement on the wet-fish Apple keyboard. I will see if I can try it out today - but not too much, this is going to be a Christmas present after all...
It turns out Unicomp has a Mac layout keyboard: http://pckeyboard.com/page/category/SpacesaverMYes. But only for the 104/105-key keyboards.
I wonder if they sell the keycaps separately?
Same here. Works very well.I've been using all sorts of keyboards with my Mac, and the only one I had problems with was the Model M, as it has no key equivalent to Option.I used a 101-key Model M on a Mac for at least 5 years. Caps Lock -> Control, Control -> Option, Alt -> Command
Are there any real keyboards with metal case these days?Sure, there are a bunch of custom keyboards milled out of blocks of Aluminum. Great choice if your budget is in the $350-700 range (depending on the details).
Just a question to all those Mac users who switch Alt and Windows key positions - what fingers do you press "Command" with when doing Command+z (undo)? That combo drives me nuts on my standard TKL mech.
I find using either the Windows key, or Ctrl (= Windows shortcut) much more comfortable. On Apple keyboards I use my thumb, as Command is taller and further to the right.
The only ones I wouldn't recommend for Mac hardware are those using a Costar controller.(Such as the Rosewill.) They are not recognized at boot and require replugging them a few times to get the EFI boot screen to recognize it.Ah, good to know, thanks!
It looks like there could be a gap in the market for a board which resembles the stock Apple keyboard in size, key position, and aesthetics (like the aluminium case and Helvetica typeface), but with mechanical switches.Apple keyboards don’t use Helvetica.
I recommend a HHKB! It's looks nice with my iMac.