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Title: Full PBT 60% Topre Boards???
Post by: Bucake on Sun, 14 December 2014, 10:18:22
are there any..?

i know of the FC660C and HHKB keyboards, but they have ABS spacebars.
Title: Re: Full PBT 60% Topre Boards???
Post by: bowji on Sun, 14 December 2014, 10:27:46
All topre boards come with ABS spacebar. Mainly due to the fact that long pbt keycaps tend to warp when produced. Try check out the Interest Check board, they're planning to set up a group buy just for topre pbt spacebars.
Title: Re: Full PBT 60% Topre Boards???
Post by: Bucake on Sun, 14 December 2014, 10:34:06
thanks alot for your reply, i'll definitely check it out!
Title: Re: Full PBT 60% Topre Boards???
Post by: eth0s on Sun, 14 December 2014, 12:40:19
Don't let the ABS spacebar deter you from getting a 60% Topre keyboard!  The only downside to the ABS spacebar is that the spacebar gets a little shiny after a while (it could take up to a year, depending on your typing).  It's not like your head will explode or something.  It may cause a slightly annoying pertubation (depending on how much you dislike shininess), but it's not a reason to deny yourself the pleasure of a Topre keyboard.
Title: Re: Full PBT 60% Topre Boards???
Post by: pexon on Sun, 14 December 2014, 12:41:34
As others have said, don't let it stop you getting one, they are amazing boards.

This also may be of interest for you:- https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=66623.0
Title: Re: Full PBT 60% Topre Boards???
Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 14 December 2014, 14:31:06
All topre boards come with ABS spacebar. Mainly due to the fact that long pbt keycaps tend to warp when produced.

Topre has made PBT spacebars in the past. For example, Hasu has a NEWS topre keyboard with a PBT spacebar.

more info here (http://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/topre-pbt-spacebars-t9028-60.html)

That said, they haven't made any in a while.
Title: Re: Full PBT 60% Topre Boards???
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 14 December 2014, 20:48:34
Like DV mentioned, PBT spacebars are absolutely possible for Topre switches. The QC required for them takes more time than the (very efficient) manufacturer would like (or so I gather, can't be sure). Join up with the Topre PBT spacebar group buy, that should alleviate your need.
Title: Re: Full PBT 60% Topre Boards???
Post by: mr626 on Sun, 14 December 2014, 22:29:34
I don't understand- if PBT spacebars can be made for cherry switches, why not Topre?
Title: Re: Full PBT 60% Topre Boards???
Post by: crazystu on Mon, 15 December 2014, 01:00:35
I don't understand- if PBT spacebars can be made for cherry switches, why not Topre?
They can be made, and have been made in the past.
ABS spacebars are easier to manufacture however, and only one company manufactures Topre keycaps as far as I'm aware (compared with countless Cherry).

Easiest way to get a Topre board with a PBT spacebar is to get a Novatouch (which is TKL not 60%), but I'm hoping Matt3o's "Purchase Intent" goes through.
Title: Re: Full PBT 60% Topre Boards???
Post by: Bucake on Mon, 15 December 2014, 21:14:33
thanks alot for the replies, guys!

i've "purchased" 2 white and 2 black pbt spacebars. now i'll just hope and wait to see if we'll reach enough pieces  :D

besides that; i'm considering getting a Realforce 87U or Leopold 660c, both seem to be solid choices.
i was hoping to stay at 60%, but after reading a bunch of reviews i've just gotten all hyped up about the 660c and (especially) 87U :D
and i noticed that elitekeyboards still sells 87U keyboards, but the 660c was apparantly removed.
does anyone know if the 660c is still available somewhere?

offtopic question: does anyone know of someone within the EU who does soldering(lubing) jobs..?
i want my current and future keyboards lubed, but don't have soldering equipment (or skills) myself..
Title: Re: Full PBT 60% Topre Boards???
Post by: Heliosphere on Mon, 15 December 2014, 21:18:15
thanks alot for the replies, guys!

i've "purchased" 2 white and 2 black pbt spacebars. now i'll just hope and wait to see if we'll reach enough pieces  :D

besides that; i'm considering getting a Realforce 87U or Leopold 660c, both seem to be solid choices.
i was hoping to stay at 60%, but after reading a bunch of reviews i've just gotten all hyped up about the 660c and (especially) 87U :D
and i noticed that elitekeyboards still sells 87U keyboards, but the 660c was apparantly removed.
does anyone know if the 660c is still available somewhere?

offtopic question: does anyone know of someone within the EU who does soldering(lubing) jobs..?
i want my current and future keyboards lubed, but don't have soldering equipment (or skills) myself..
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=66687.0

If you want a used black 87u 45g, I can sell you mine too.
Title: Re: Full PBT 60% Topre Boards???
Post by: FrostyToast on Mon, 15 December 2014, 21:18:41
thanks alot for the replies, guys!

i've "purchased" 2 white and 2 black pbt spacebars. now i'll just hope and wait to see if we'll reach enough pieces  :D

besides that; i'm considering getting a Realforce 87U or Leopold 660c, both seem to be solid choices.
i was hoping to stay at 60%, but after reading a bunch of reviews i've just gotten all hyped up about the 660c and (especially) 87U :D
and i noticed that elitekeyboards still sells 87U keyboards, but the 660c was apparantly removed.
does anyone know if the 660c is still available somewhere?

offtopic question: does anyone know of someone within the EU who does soldering(lubing) jobs..?
i want my current and future keyboards lubed, but don't have soldering equipment (or skills) myself..

Topre switches do not require any desoldering at all.
You do however need to have a bit of caution and patience when taking them apart however as it almost seems like topre switches weren't meant to be taken apart at all.
Some components could break if you're too rough, but an amateur should honestly be perfectly fine.
I dental banded my fc660c without knowing what the hell I was doing at all and nothing broke.
Title: Re: Full PBT 60% Topre Boards???
Post by: Sturmfrau on Tue, 16 December 2014, 20:30:15
are there any..?

i know of the FC660C and HHKB keyboards, but they have ABS spacebars.

As far as I know HHKB with JP layout have pbt spacebar.
Title: Re: Full PBT 60% Topre Boards???
Post by: FrostyToast on Tue, 16 December 2014, 20:42:25
are there any..?

i know of the FC660C and HHKB keyboards, but they have ABS spacebars.

As far as I know HHKB with JP layout have pbt spacebar.

Possibly, it is quite small, so warping wouldn't be an issue.