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Title: Nooby model M questions
Post by: Jixr on Mon, 15 December 2014, 14:32:34
Hey guys.

I've always wanted a model M, mainly as a toy/collectors item, and recently I found one on my local craigslist for a good price.

Seems to be in decent shape, but it doesn't have the cable.

So here are some questions I have.

where can I find a replacement cable and about how much do those cost?

and are there ps2 extension cables? My computer tower actually is in a media closet, and I would need to run at least 10' of PS2 cable to get it from my tower to my desk. I don't know if the signal downgrades over distance or anything like that.

Also, aside from the keymap, do they work with OSX?
Title: Re: Nooby model M questions
Post by: E TwentyNine on Mon, 15 December 2014, 14:44:37
where can I find a replacement cable and about how much do those cost?

Ebay
Unicomp: http://pckeyboard.com/page/category/Cables  Unicomp is $15 + shipping ( $3? $7? been a while, forget the mininum)
ClickeyKeyboards: http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/categories.main/parentcat/9417

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and are there ps2 extension cables? My computer tower actually is in a media closet, and I would need to run at least 10' of PS2 cable to get it from my tower to my desk. I don't know if the signal downgrades over distance or anything like that.

There are 10' long model M cables which Clickey has, but believe Unicomp only sells the ones in the 6' range.  You can email them and ask.

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Also, aside from the keymap, do they work with OSX?

Yes.
Title: Re: Nooby model M questions
Post by: Touch_It on Mon, 15 December 2014, 14:55:30
I don't have anything of importance to add other than grats and. I'm jealous.  I shouldn't be as I've been pretty lucky with getting free/cheap vintage keyboards but I've always wanted to find a Model M in my GoodWill or on Craigslist.  If you don't mind my asking what year is it?
Title: Re: Nooby model M questions
Post by: Jixr on Mon, 15 December 2014, 15:14:49
86 or 88 The guy has two listed but I think one of them is sold.  One looks decent, the other is pretty rough that has some replacement blank keycaps on it.

My town even has a goodwill computer shop, and occasionally i'll go looking, but I've never found any mechs there yet.
Title: Re: Nooby model M questions
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 15 December 2014, 17:09:57
Orihalcon's cables are pricey but work great and are very clean.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=28268.msg1211448#msg1211448
Title: Re: Nooby model M questions
Post by: RoflCopter4 on Mon, 15 December 2014, 18:33:39
I'd be a little weary about an extension cable. I don't know at what rate current decreases in a PS/2 cable, but the Model M has such a hilariously high draw for a keyboard that it is conceivable that a cable that long could actually fail to provide enough juice to the board, especially if you're also using a PS/2 to USB converter.
Title: Re: Nooby model M questions
Post by: ezrahilyer on Mon, 15 December 2014, 18:40:34
Orihalcon's cables are pricey but work great and are very clean.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=28268.msg1211448#msg1211448

I say go with what fohat.digs suggested: since you need a cable anyway get one of the Orihalcon ones.
Title: Re: Nooby model M questions
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 15 December 2014, 18:41:30
I'd be a little weary about an extension cable. I don't know at what rate current decreases in a PS/2 cable, but the Model M has such a hilariously high draw for a keyboard that it is conceivable that a cable that long could actually fail to provide enough juice to the board, especially if you're also using a PS/2 to USB converter.

Actually, I think that the Model M draws somewhere in the low-100 ma range, and the USB is supposed to provide 500 ma. I always use pull-up resistors in my converters, anyway, but I doubt that they would fit in orihalcon's svelte cables.