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Title: Denzel doin' -Good-
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 15 December 2014, 15:12:11: So I just started watching.. -The Equalizer-

Denzel washington intervenes in the life of a spiraling young girl prostitute.

I'm about 15mins into the movie, and I thought, Could they have made this movie with a young black girl..

I thought this, and the answer is Probably NOT..

the white girl has a monopoly on the maiden in distress cliche..

The movie would be much more difficult to monetize because then it would be identical to all the other million white guy saves white girl movies.. LOLOL

The key shtick in this movie is that the black man may wield the moniker of an "unlikely savior"..

if they used a white guy as an "unlikely savior", the dude would probably be a drunkard or does drugs..

yet, with the black guy, suddenly all he'd have to be is black.. hahaha..

Racism is alive and well hahahaha... thanks hollywood..
Title: Re: Denzel doin' -Good-
Post by: Lurch on Mon, 15 December 2014, 15:13:45: Fun movie.
Title: Re: Denzel doin' -Good-
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 15 December 2014, 15:14:12: Quote from: Lurch on Mon, 15 December 2014, 15:13:45
Fun movie.

yea.. it seems to be a great movie so far..
Title: Re: Denzel doin' -Good-
Post by: heedpantsnow on Mon, 15 December 2014, 15:18:44: LOL I just watched this also. I liked it.

Not sure about the racist thing. Could have just as easily been Bruce Willis. Not everything has to be about race.
Title: Re: Denzel doin' -Good-
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 15 December 2014, 15:24:24: Quote from: heedpantsnow on Mon, 15 December 2014, 15:18:44
LOL I just watched this also. I liked it.

Not sure about the racist thing. Could have just as easily been Bruce Willis. Not everything has to be about race.

That's the thing.. LOOK at the bruce willis movies.. he always has some daughter in distress.

He always play this emotionally callous detached character.. that's his defect..

Then look at -The Equalizer- What is denzel's flaw, he's god damn near perfect, he reads books at a cafe, he helps people.. NOTHING wrong with him... THE ONLY thing that makes him the unlikely savior in this story arc.. is his race..
Title: Re: Denzel doin' -Good-
Post by: heedpantsnow on Mon, 15 December 2014, 15:31:34: Quote from: tp4tissue on Mon, 15 December 2014, 15:24:24
Quote from: heedpantsnow on Mon, 15 December 2014, 15:18:44
LOL I just watched this also. I liked it.

Not sure about the racist thing. Could have just as easily been Bruce Willis. Not everything has to be about race.

That's the thing.. LOOK at the bruce willis movies.. he always has some daughter in distress.

He always play this emotionally callous detached character.. that's his defect..

Then look at -The Equalizer- What is denzel's flaw, he's god damn near perfect, he reads books at a cafe, he helps people.. NOTHING wrong with him... THE ONLY thing that makes him the unlikely savior in this story arc.. is his race..

I can see what you mean about Bruce Willis; bad example on my part.

But I disagree about the race. What makes him an unlikely savior is that he's a bookworm and seems to have a very boring existence. Race doesn't have anything to do with the fact that he likes to read, keeps to the same boring routine every day, etc.
Title: Re: Denzel doin' -Good-
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 15 December 2014, 15:34:50: Quote from: heedpantsnow on Mon, 15 December 2014, 15:31:34
Quote from: tp4tissue on Mon, 15 December 2014, 15:24:24
Quote from: heedpantsnow on Mon, 15 December 2014, 15:18:44
LOL I just watched this also. I liked it.

Not sure about the racist thing. Could have just as easily been Bruce Willis. Not everything has to be about race.

That's the thing.. LOOK at the bruce willis movies.. he always has some daughter in distress.

He always play this emotionally callous detached character.. that's his defect..

Then look at -The Equalizer- What is denzel's flaw, he's god damn near perfect, he reads books at a cafe, he helps people.. NOTHING wrong with him... THE ONLY thing that makes him the unlikely savior in this story arc.. is his race..

I can see what you mean about Bruce Willis; bad example on my part.

But I disagree about the race. What makes him an unlikely savior is that he's a bookworm and seems to have a very boring existence. Race doesn't have anything to do with the fact that he likes to read, keeps to the same boring routine every day, etc.

ur right.. it's open to interpretation..

I am making the comparison to the -unlikely savior- white guy saves white girl formula, I suppose if we decide that this film is a complete departure, then the claim could be made that they didn't leverage the race disparity..
Title: Re: Denzel doin' -Good-
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Mon, 15 December 2014, 15:36:29: One movie of his that really left a lasting impression on me was Inside Man. Highly recommended.

Edit: and Man on Fire.
Title: Re: Denzel doin' -Good-
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 15 December 2014, 16:44:27: Just finished the movie.. LOL.. so Denzel is a superhero with Kato vision..

This is silly.. (http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/woa-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862526)
Title: Re: Denzel doin' -Good-
Post by: katushkin on Mon, 15 December 2014, 18:00:47: I'm watching this now. I usually like Denzel movies, especially ones where he ends up as a badass.
Title: Re: Denzel doin' -Good-
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 15 December 2014, 18:28:23: Quote from: katushkin on Mon, 15 December 2014, 18:00:47
I'm watching this now. I usually like Denzel movies, especially ones where he ends up as a badass.

haha.. it's definitly got the Fubu vibe in that respect..
Title: Re: Denzel doin' -Good-
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Mon, 15 December 2014, 19:31:02: Quote from: katushkin on Mon, 15 December 2014, 18:00:47
I'm watching this now. I usually like Denzel movies, especially ones where he ends up as a badass.
then you should definitely watch man on fire.
Title: Re: Denzel doin' -Good-
Post by: katushkin on Mon, 15 December 2014, 19:32:11: Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Mon, 15 December 2014, 19:31:02
Quote from: katushkin on Mon, 15 December 2014, 18:00:47
I'm watching this now. I usually like Denzel movies, especially ones where he ends up as a badass.
then you should definitely watch man on fire.

I can't remember if I have watched that already, I don't think I have...

Chaos Theory and Deja Vu are good though.
Title: Re: Denzel doin' -Good-
Post by: bueller on Mon, 15 December 2014, 19:34:35: Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Mon, 15 December 2014, 19:31:02
Quote from: katushkin on Mon, 15 December 2014, 18:00:47
I'm watching this now. I usually like Denzel movies, especially ones where he ends up as a badass.
then you should definitely watch man on fire.

Hell yeah. I give that movie a watch every six months or so, one of my favourite action flicks.
Title: Re: Denzel doin' -Good-
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Mon, 15 December 2014, 19:51:29: Quote from: katushkin on Mon, 15 December 2014, 19:32:11
Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Mon, 15 December 2014, 19:31:02
Quote from: katushkin on Mon, 15 December 2014, 18:00:47
I'm watching this now. I usually like Denzel movies, especially ones where he ends up as a badass.
then you should definitely watch man on fire.

I can't remember if I have watched that already, I don't think I have...

Chaos Theory and Deja Vu are good though.
It's the one where he's assigned as a bodyguard to a little girl in Mexico, without spoiling too much, a lot goes wrong and a lot of people die.
Title: Re: Denzel doin' -Good-
Post by: katushkin on Mon, 15 December 2014, 20:33:37: Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Mon, 15 December 2014, 19:51:29
Quote from: katushkin on Mon, 15 December 2014, 19:32:11
Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Mon, 15 December 2014, 19:31:02
Quote from: katushkin on Mon, 15 December 2014, 18:00:47
I'm watching this now. I usually like Denzel movies, especially ones where he ends up as a badass.
then you should definitely watch man on fire.

I can't remember if I have watched that already, I don't think I have...

Chaos Theory and Deja Vu are good though.
It's the one where he's assigned as a bodyguard to a little girl in Mexico, without spoiling too much, a lot goes wrong and a lot of people die.

Ohhhhhh yeah. I have. That is good.
Title: Re: Denzel doin' -Good-
Post by: katushkin on Mon, 15 December 2014, 20:38:01: Oh man, I want to see him put a bullet through Dan Blizerain's face so bad...

Edit: or that. That works.
Title: Re: Denzel doin' -Good-
Post by: mauri on Tue, 16 December 2014, 05:26:16: omg always russia man -bad- guy??? ~~~~~~~~~~ RACISM?? (https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQTNXjzgRxmqbn02dkgUxnxEPPfeTIleypUJzqlggH1ckAvp1bH3ku-0wY)
Title: Re: Denzel doin' -Good-
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 16 December 2014, 05:29:37: Quote from: mauri on Tue, 16 December 2014, 05:26:16
omg always russia man -bad- guy??? ~~~~~~~~~~ RACISM??
Show Image
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQTNXjzgRxmqbn02dkgUxnxEPPfeTIleypUJzqlggH1ckAvp1bH3ku-0wY)

jajajajajaja...

well.. it used to be Germans then Russians during cold war.. but now that Putin has proven to be Very disagreeable, Murica' has focused on russians..

I believe next will be China, because the cold war never really stops..
Title: Re: Denzel doin' -Good-
Post by: iri on Tue, 16 December 2014, 06:41:33: I've downloaded The Equalizer yesterday, but the quality was ****ty, so I watched The Inside Man instead. Liked it.

Quote from: mauri on Tue, 16 December 2014, 05:26:16
omg always russia man -bad- guy???
YES I AM BAD
Title: Re: Denzel doin' -Good-
Post by: ideus on Tue, 16 December 2014, 07:26:50: The movie is exploiting on a subtle racist euphemism: "his race" that "should not match his qualities"
Title: Re: Denzel doin' -Good-
Post by: katushkin on Tue, 16 December 2014, 08:16:42: Quote from: ideus on Tue, 16 December 2014, 07:26:50
The movie is exploiting on a subtle racist euphemism: "his race" that "should not match his qualities"

Not really... It's because he's an old man that they underestimate him, not because he's black. You seriously think that's what it is? =/