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Title: Ergo mice?
Post by: yasuo on Thu, 18 December 2014, 09:26:13
I got my hand problems today, the feel pins and needles,really rigid and tremble to hold objects,after i searching, i find may cts
but when my hand healthy, what good choice ergo mice with less movement and no fly (my hand touched the table)?
 
thanks
Title: Re: Ergo mice?
Post by: naz on Thu, 18 December 2014, 10:11:15
Hello,

Most ergonomics mouse (such as the evoluent) don't allow wrist movement, so you have to move it by rotating your elbow and shoulder. This is fine for most people but i never liked it.

What i use is de DXT (wireless), wich is really sensitive so you just move it with your fingers (no wrist, no elbow and no shoulder). One warning, i have small hands, so that may be a factor on why i like it so much.

Regards!
Title: Re: Ergo mice?
Post by: vivalarevolución on Thu, 18 December 2014, 10:21:27
I am a fan of the Mousetrapper:

http://www.thehumansolution.com/mouse-trapper-advanced-mouse.html
http://www.thehumansolution.com/mousetrapper-flexible-mouse.html


And the Rollermouse:

http://ergo.contour-design.com/


Both devices allow the user to keep their hands in the normal typing position while utilizing the underused thumbs for mouse movement.  They also double as palm rest.  I plan to offer a thorough review of the Mousetrapper and Rollermouse when I sell this darn Maltron and reinvest the funds in a Rollermouse.  I find that the devices reduce the strain on my fingers and wrist caused by most mice, including trackballs.
Title: Re: Ergo mice?
Post by: Sc0tTy on Thu, 18 December 2014, 12:28:35
I use a Wacom Bamboo Pen & Touch v3 at work and at home. Very ergonomic!
Just switch it to mouse mode and you'll never want to go back, I've been pain free for years now. Returning back to a mouse and it quickly comes back.

They have a new model out and its renamed to Intuos Pen & Touch: http://www.wacom.com/en-nl/products/pen-tablets/intuos-pen-and-touch-small
I'm thinking of replacing my current ones with the new ones and taking the larger model
Title: Re: Ergo mice?
Post by: vivalarevolución on Thu, 18 December 2014, 14:00:10
I use a Wacom Bamboo Pen & Touch v3 at work and at home. Very ergonomic!
Just switch it to mouse mode and you'll never want to go back, I've been pain free for years now. Returning back to a mouse and it quickly comes back.

They have a new model out and its renamed to Intuos Pen & Touch: http://www.wacom.com/en-nl/products/pen-tablets/intuos-pen-and-touch-small
I'm thinking of replacing my current ones with the new ones and taking the larger model

I have been recommended using of those before.  Might have to try it one of these days.  Seems like it would be a good fit with ergo boards, because the Rollermouse and Mousetrapper are best used with standard flat boards.
Title: Re: Ergo mice?
Post by: Sc0tTy on Thu, 18 December 2014, 15:02:15
Yeah
I use a Wacom Bamboo Pen & Touch v3 at work and at home. Very ergonomic!
Just switch it to mouse mode and you'll never want to go back, I've been pain free for years now. Returning back to a mouse and it quickly comes back.

They have a new model out and its renamed to Intuos Pen & Touch: http://www.wacom.com/en-nl/products/pen-tablets/intuos-pen-and-touch-small
I'm thinking of replacing my current ones with the new ones and taking the larger model

I have been recommended using of those before.  Might have to try it one of these days.  Seems like it would be a good fit with ergo boards, because the Rollermouse and Mousetrapper are best used with standard flat boards.

Yeah its great. A lot better than those upright mice and I prefer it to those rolerbars etc. I found this a lot more precise and quicker.
But you'll want to have a narrow keyboard like TECK or Kinesis Freestyle if you use it
Title: Re: Ergo mice?
Post by: vivalarevolución on Thu, 18 December 2014, 16:48:41
Yeah
I use a Wacom Bamboo Pen & Touch v3 at work and at home. Very ergonomic!
Just switch it to mouse mode and you'll never want to go back, I've been pain free for years now. Returning back to a mouse and it quickly comes back.

They have a new model out and its renamed to Intuos Pen & Touch: http://www.wacom.com/en-nl/products/pen-tablets/intuos-pen-and-touch-small
I'm thinking of replacing my current ones with the new ones and taking the larger model

I have been recommended using of those before.  Might have to try it one of these days.  Seems like it would be a good fit with ergo boards, because the Rollermouse and Mousetrapper are best used with standard flat boards.

Yeah its great. A lot better than those upright mice and I prefer it to those rolerbars etc. I found this a lot more precise and quicker.
But you'll want to have a narrow keyboard like TECK or Kinesis Freestyle if you use it

The Rollermouse and Mousetrapper do lack in precision, that is the most annoying part.  Trade-offs, trade-offs.
Title: Re: Ergo mice?
Post by: hoggy on Mon, 22 December 2014, 06:51:21
Windows has an option to automatically move the mouse pointer to a default button when a form opens - takes some getting used to, but once you've got used to it, turning it off sounds stupid. 

What about using your other hand for a while?
Title: Re: Ergo mice?
Post by: Sc0tTy on Mon, 22 December 2014, 08:43:22
Windows has an option to automatically move the mouse pointer to a default button when a form opens - takes some getting used to, but once you've got used to it, turning it off sounds stupid. 

What about using your other hand for a while?

I used that for a while but for me it was annoying because this meant any click would submit. Had quit a few problems with that...
Title: Re: Ergo mice?
Post by: yasuo on Mon, 22 December 2014, 23:14:51
Hello,

Most ergonomics mouse (such as the evoluent) don't allow wrist movement, so you have to move it by rotating your elbow and shoulder. This is fine for most people but i never liked it.

What i use is de DXT (wireless), wich is really sensitive so you just move it with your fingers (no wrist, no elbow and no shoulder). One warning, i have small hands, so that may be a factor on why i like it so much.

Regards!
interisting dxt ambidex model can change another hand anytime, usually i use 500dpi optical
I am a fan of the Mousetrapper:

http://www.thehumansolution.com/mouse-trapper-advanced-mouse.html
http://www.thehumansolution.com/mousetrapper-flexible-mouse.html


And the Rollermouse:

http://ergo.contour-design.com/


Both devices allow the user to keep their hands in the normal typing position while utilizing the underused thumbs for mouse movement.  They also double as palm rest.  I plan to offer a thorough review of the Mousetrapper and Rollermouse when I sell this darn Maltron and reinvest the funds in a Rollermouse.  I find that the devices reduce the strain on my fingers and wrist caused by most mice, including trackballs.
i quite interest with rollermouse for long time interest if u make the review rollermouse compare moustrapper
btw i really dont like touch model like moustraper such touchscreen, touchpad, its very not accurate to me
I use a Wacom Bamboo Pen & Touch v3 at work and at home. Very ergonomic!
Just switch it to mouse mode and you'll never want to go back, I've been pain free for years now. Returning back to a mouse and it quickly comes back.

They have a new model out and its renamed to Intuos Pen & Touch: http://www.wacom.com/en-nl/products/pen-tablets/intuos-pen-and-touch-small
I'm thinking of replacing my current ones with the new ones and taking the larger model
its looks comfort but but eating place for dailymouse
Windows has an option to automatically move the mouse pointer to a default button when a form opens - takes some getting used to, but once you've got used to it, turning it off sounds stupid. 

What about using your other hand for a while?
yeah, i've using other hand for a while my mouse can setting rh/lh side with firmware
Title: Re: Ergo mice?
Post by: pnutster on Sat, 27 December 2014, 12:18:17
Hi,

Having a lot of tendon problems myself, I have focussed on ergonomic products the past few years.

Ergonomic keyboards and mice are a very personal match. What works for me are:

- Apple trackpad.
- Old model trackball -  I use the Logitech Cordless Trackman FX Optical Trackball - there's 2 older versions around: http://support.logitech.com/en_us/product/189 and http://support.logitech.com/en_us/product/cordless-trackman-fx - hard to get, but there are still good offers around on ebay once in a while.

What I think is important in a mouse / trackball is that is "forces" you into a more natural "handshake" position. I tried vertical mice, but personally that doesn't work for me, but maybe it does for you.
Title: Re: Ergo mice?
Post by: hoggy on Sat, 27 December 2014, 12:50:27
A bit of variety (several different mice) might help.